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Topic Started: Jan 3 2014, 01:13 AM (3,082 Views)
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I figured this is the place for it. And just like the header said, anything you want to talk about as far as pro wrasslin goes!

I'll start with some thoughts on tonight's TNA Impact Wrestling.

Kurt Freakin Angle vs Bobby The It Factor Rhoode.

I think this is the best ongoing feud in wrestling today. Despite all his personal demons with drinking as of late and his age Angle still really is what they call him , a cyborg. And Rhoode might be the best heel in the business. Both guys bring a lot of intensity and make it seem honestly personal. Tonight they set up a steel cage match for Genisis in two weeks((free pfv on tv can't beat that with a stick)). If Angle loses he leaves TNA AND can never accept being inducted in the TNA hall of fame...

Considering Kurt has said in interviews he wants to retire in 2015 I see him losing this and coming back to the WWE for one last run before he does, he also listed several current WWE guys he'd like to face before he retires. With Hogan and Eric Bishoff, and now Jeff Hardy and AJ Styles leaving the company it also seems like TNA is unloading a lot of older guys with big contracts to put more money toward their younger and TNA original talent coming in as well, Kurt might be the next on the chopping block for that reason as well considering behind possibly Sting he's probably the highest paid remaining guy on the roster.

On the other end of the spectrum....

Since the Aces and Eights where forced to disband(( a good thing it got voted worst gimmick of 13 and I agree, it went on way too long and was booked horribly)) Bully Ray, at one point possibly in the top 3 heels in the business has turned into a watered down poor man's emo Twilight vampire hoodie wearing version of the Undertaker.

Bully did the street wise and real world tough guy well, he does the dark and broody evil guy horribly.

Tonight he kicked Joseph Parks in the balls for an auto dq and doused him with lighter fluid, threatening to light him on fire . Ken Anderson tried to make the save only to get doused and threatened with a Bic Lighter as well to hold him at bay. It was all a tease to the old ECW days, and I'm not saying I want or someone should get set on fire but this was just done poorly even for a tease. It's a Bic, blow it out and kick his ass guys...

Gail Kim issued her first open challenge of 14 and Madison Rayne answered and pinned her for the second week in a row, getting a title shot probably at Genisis as well. It was a pretty good match but a booking boo-boo! The open challenge is supposedly to any woman wrestler not currently on contract with TNA, Madison is and has been...

Austin Aries lost to Chris Sabin for the X division belt after winning it from him last week. Sabin played up the terrible boyfriend heel by threatening to leave Velvet Sky if he left without the belt. He also used her as a distraction to get the heel win. It's shaping up to be a good feud but honestly I consider Aries to be the real best in the world , sorry Punk. He should be in the World Heavy Weight championship picture not the X Division.

Angle tagged with Gunner vs Rhoode and Storm in a Beer Money reunion at least for the night and it was a short honestly brutally bad match meant to set up the starting feud between Storm and Gunner , recently tag partners as Sinner and Saint than anything.

They focused quite a bit on their younger talent, debuting Samuel Shaw He squashed Duey Barns, the modern day Barry Horiwitz with a nasty choke hold finisher. He has a very Dexter like or American Psycho gimmick, wearing a shirt and gloves almost identical to Dexter's and has a stalker thing going on with Christi Hemmi .

The other new guy, EC3 or Ethan Carter the Third is another WWE Nxt release by the name of Derrick Bateman . His current gimmick is the spoiled entitled nephew of company owner Dixie Carter.

Tonight he called out Jeff Hardy who left TNA last week, only to get tricked into accepting a match with Sting at Genisis.

Both of these new guys have a good look and are supposedly able to go in the ring. Time will tell but they need to get out of the squash matches ASAP and show it . And honestly five years ago a program or feud with Sting could make a young guy but Sting is so limited in the ring these days he wrestles under a shirt and the Stinger Splash has turned into the Stinger Lean Too....I don't even want to see the long anticipated Sting vs Taker at a Mania anymore.

The show ended with the new Heavy Weight Champion Magnus being crowned in the ring with Dixie, EC3 and Rock Star Spud in the ring. Gunner interrupted and teased a cash in of his title shot but got beaten down by the heels. And then AJ Styles showed up, and eventually challenged Magnus to a champion vs champion match next week.

Magnus defied Dixie, making him seem more like a tweener than true heel , and the show went off with the two facing off with their individual belts held high.

Down side to this, due to the nature of TNA taping shows in the Impact Zone weeks in advance and the internet, we already know they didn't resign AJ and he's leaving for ROH and Japan after next week. He has sworn this is not an angle or work and for now at least he is done with TNA but no bridges where burnt, he might return some time down the road.

All I can say is this is a horrible decession on the part of TNA. AJ has been there for seven or eight of their 11years as a company, and I'd compare him to Sting in WCW or HBK or Taker in the 80s as the face of the company. Couple it with the rumors that the Bad Influence tag team of Christopher Daniels and Frankie Kazarian are taking indy bookings and it's dark times for TNA. These two are one of the best tag teams around today, among the best individual peformers, entertaining and a major loss as well.

On the other hand, AJ could be the biggest and best thing to happen to ROH in a long time.

I will say this for Magnus, as the first British heavy weight champion of a major American Wrestling company in 108 years, he's the hottest thing TNA has going for them right now. Only with the company for five years it showed a lot of confidence in him to put the strap on him this early . He has the look and in ring ability, still needs some work on the stick and I think he works better as a face or tweener than full blown heel because of that .

Gunner is another young TNA home grown talent also in the title picture, but he still needs MAJOR work on his mic skills and to me is only average in the ring as of now but he's improving as he goes.
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Thanks for the thread and post AR!

I've been a pro-rasslin' fan for the better part of the last half century, following the AWA (American Wrestling Association) in the '60s and '70s, and continuing with the WWF and NWA/WCW in the '80s and '90s.

While I still keep up with current goings on, my major interest is in the old-school days... and in that regard the upcoming Monday Night RAW will be a special treat. Can you say, "WOO!!!" ?

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Jan 3 2014, 02:41 PM
Thanks for the thread and post AR!

I've been a pro-rasslin' fan for the better part of the last half century, following the AWA (American Wrestling Association) in the '60s and '70s, and continuing with the WWF and NWA/WCW in the '80s and '90s.

While I still keep up with current goings on, my major interest is in the old-school days... and in that regard the upcoming Monday Night RAW will be a special treat. Can you say, "WOO!!!" ?

I got the 12 disk Raw Anniversary set for Christmas, it's pretty sweet to watch the old stuff, especially with Macho Man and the Legion of Doom.
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WWE Friday Smackdown
The show kicks off with a Raw Recap of Daniel Bryan joining the Wyatt Family. Cole and JBL on commentary, Cole announces tag title math between they Wyatts and Codey Rhodes and Gold Dust.
1-The Shield come to the ring throug the crowd and deny any chinks in thier armor or weak links among them before the Usos come out. Dean Ambrose goes to join the commentary while Reigns and Rollins face them in a tag match.The good news is, these four always put on a 4-5 star match.The bad news is, these four ALWAYS ARE putting on a 4-5 star match, every week, almost every show.It eventually ends with the Usos on the verge of victory when Dean gets involved and the DQ win for the USos instead. A three on two beat down comences until Super Punk comes down all alone and clears the ring for the save as the Shield retreats through the crowd.
2-Apparently all night we are going to hear WWE Superstar's New Years resolutions. Prime Time Players are up first , it's about what you expect to hear,
"this is my/our year do so much yadda yadda yadda"
That's the last one I'll bother to repeat unless someone does something diffrent or special.
Out comes Vicki Gurrero.Man this woman and Chavo Gurrero have ridden Eddie Gurrero's name and legacy for all it's worth forever now...
She announces the six man tag for later tonight, Shield vs Usos and Punk. Nobody saw that coming .....
3-Up next is Fandango with Summer Ray vs R Truth with Xavier Woods . Woods goes to commentary.
The match is the decent , especially Truth who is at least knocking on 40's door if not inside it , but honestly this is one guy's gimmick that as run it's course and the other's has never really taken off. Xavier calls out the Funkadacytles to dance on the stage while he dances on the announce table with JBL's cowboy hat on. It works as a distraction and helps Truth pick up a quick win.
4-We get a backstage interview from Renee Young with Curtis Axel. More on this in My Thoughts.
5-The Rhodes Brothers vs Eric Harper and Luk Rowan of the Wyatt Family for the WWE Tag Titles
The Wyatts start the match with an empty rocking chair at ring side, Bray Wyatt and Daniel Bryant/Wyatt nowhere to be seen. Cole informs us that DB's fiancee Bri Bella has been in contact with him and knows he is ok but that's all. It's a good match mostly due to hard work by Codey and Gold Dust. After the Wyatts work Codey over a good bit, Dust gets a blind tag for a roll up win, pretty good match, lackluster ending.
6-We get a recap of Tribute to the Troops, then a teaser for a recap of Bryan and the Wyatts from Raw, before a teaser for the return of Batista on the 20th....

7-We get a diva match with Nikki Bella vs Askana. Askana beat her on Raw, possibly building her up for a run at AJ Lee's Diva Championship? Short match and Nikki gets the win anyway, nothing special.
8 Big E Langston vs Curtis Axel((non Intercontential Championship title match)
It's a short but decent match, even if Big E had at least 80 % of the offense. He gets the win with the Big Ending. Not the most impressive showing for either guy but they get tv time so I guess it's good for them.
9-We get a recap of Brock Lesnar's return and destruction of Mark Henry on Raw, followed up by a promo for Monday's Old School Raw by Heyman.
After that is another Bad News Barret segment .....
10-And now for the Main Event, six man tag match. Shield vs Punk and Usos.
Another great match. I can't emphasis enough the in ring chemistry the Usos and Reigns and Rollins have with each other . Punk and Ambrose are both great in thier own but better suited to longer one on one matches. Usos and Punk get the win again when the Shield get in each other's way building the tension and possible split up.
The show ends with a Bray Wyatt promo bragging about getting Daniel Bryant to join him,(( See My Thoughts on both Daniel and the Wyatts ))
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My Thoughts
1-Dean Ambrose is golden on commentary, his mic skills are years beyond his in ring experience, hell they're years beyond the mic skills of some guys that have been on tv two to three years longer than him. He talks about defending his US title at house shows on six continents and more countries than he can count, but unfortuantly it's never on tv or even a pfv. I think the last time was in October vs Big E Langston?
1A-Punk is getting as bad as Cena with these Super Hero like antics, saving the day against over whelming odds ...

3-Xavier Woods might be a solid middle card contender but I can't see him ever getting past that , his finisher The Honor Roll is a rolling splash of sorts, nothing super special n after listening to him try and build his feud with Brodus Clay tonight on commentary he's nothing super special on the mic either, at least not yet..
3A-Fandango was red hot after defeated Jericho at Mania last year but he's done nothing but tread water since. What little of Summer Rey I've seen in ring action , she's got potential but still needs a lot of work. Not sure I've ever heard her work the mic for herself except for one short spot on Nxt and she needs work there too.



5- First off, this is classic VInce Mcman mood swing . For ten years he didn't care at all about tag wrestling , now it's almost as important as the World Title, and everybody and his brother is in a team. Ryback and Axel are perfect examples, so are Rey Mysterio and Big Show and R Truth and Xavier Woods. I think they should spread this time out with the IC and especially US title divisons, and spotlight some more of these guys as singles stars. Sure, some of the greatest stars started out as tag guys but enough is enough.

5A-Dust looks better now than ten years ago , he deserves the Come Back of the Year award he got . Codey comes in off a hot tag at one point and shows he can be a top single's highflyer in the future. If rumors are true and we see them in a brother vs brother feud and match at Mania with Dusty Rhodes thier father as special ref it would be epic .
5B-On the other hand, Eric Rowan and Luke Carper do nothing for me as a tag team or singles wrestlers so far, all they have is size and the Hills Have Eyes Mutant look going. I predict they'll be off tv and possibly out of the company by Summer Slam, possibly taking Bray with them as well, this gimmick would have been great in the Attitude Era but the PG era just hamstrings it .
5C-Putting DB with the Wyatts is a terrible move in my humble opinion, the kid is as over with the crowds as anyone on the current roster, and the pops he was getting where near or on par with Rock or Stone Cold in thier prime...It's just an example of Vince and HHH's ego, they've both spoken on how the like the bigger super heavy weight guys over the smaller more talented guys like DB or CM Punk, look over ability, and this current angle is just a way to get DB futher from the World Title picture now that Broc Lesnar and Batista are back for Mania season.
6A- Tribute to the Troops is one thing the WWE should be really proud of. They also offer free tickets to service members here in the states for live house shows, maybe even Raw and Smackdown I think. Cudos also to the WWE for all the charity work they do with Make a Wish and the Susan B Cancer Foundation. I may not be the president of the John Cena fan club by any means but he's to be commended for his part in these things.
7- Man the diva divsion has fallen on hard times. It's pretty much one great in ring talent and mediocre to below average mic worker in Natalia Niehart,and one decent ring talent and great mic/character worker in AJ Lee.
The rest, not to sound sexist are subpar ring talent and mediocre at best on the mic, the Bellas especially are over rated and in my opinion only where they are for who they're involved with in real life.(( John Cena and Daniel Bryant)
Askana has the exotic foriegner thing going for her, but she's still reall rough in the ring even with recent improvement . Layla is out sick or hurt right now, and being British and three times the talent both in ring and on the mic woud be the better choice for the Euro-Diva be it face or heel in my opinion. I know her mother died young of breast cancer and I hope it isn't genetic and the cause of her absence now, get better soon Layla!
Summer Rey and a couple of the girls in Nxt are supposedly going to save women's wrestling when they get called up. Whenever that is, I'll believe it when I see it personally considering that Eve Mari , the Funkadacytles and Jojo where all Nxt diva products. If we want women's wrestling , TNA's Knockout Division trumps anything the WWE has to offer by miles.
I sometimes wonder again at the risk of sounding sexist if women's wrestling hasn't outlived itself . I was at a live event a couple years ago the diva match didn't last five minutes, and seriously probably close to half the crowd hit the restroom or concession stand during it. The kids would be just as happy I think if they went back to using valets to have a female presance in wrestling, they don't seem to care about women wrestlers with actual in ring talent, and the older generation seems to really not care one way or the other , I'm not sure the over all female wrestling fan base is that strong anymore?

8A- Big E is another example of Vince and HHH's love of the super heavyweights(( Like Shemus with HHH being a real life gym buddy of John Cena can't hurt either)).
In his case it might be deserved, he has a lot of explosive power and energy for a power house type, while his mic skills are mediocre right now they're improving as he hangs around. Will he ever be a technical wizard or put on the Match of the Year any time soon? I seriously doubt it but I can see him in World Title Matches within the year.
8B-On the other side of the ring is Curtis Axel, son of Curt Henning. While he isn't the most charismatic guy on the roster and honestly terrible on the mic he is one of the best technical and catch as catch can guys in the locker room, just like his father and grand father. Unfortuantly, even with Paul Heyman to do his talking for him he couldn't get over as a heel IC champ and for now he is stuck in lower mid card ville with Ryback in a tag team. Unless he can shave and get a good run going as a baby face he'll stay there unless they let him go like they did Ted Diabiase Jr. and Ricky Steamboat Jr.
9A- I don't mind Broc returing and working a part time schedlule, same with Batista but the World Title Picture should be for full time guys, put guys like this in mid card or secondary main event story lines.They're taking up time on the weekly shows and the pay for views that they apear on that the WWE should be starting to use to build thier current and younger mid card guys up in my opinion.
9B-It doesn't matter the subject or topic of one of these Bad News Barret segments (( it's New Year Resolutions )) this gimmick is horrible. Wade Barrett could be a great talent for WWE, he has the size and look for either a face or heel, a good back groud in bare knuckle fighting while in England before he came to America and wrestling, he's probably one of if not the most under appriciated and used in ring talents they have, able to give a good 10+ minute match with almost anyone, and above average on the mic compared to most of the current and up and coming talent. ......And because of some negative comments against Cena over a year ago he's being punished.
10- A three way match between split members of the Shield for Ambrose's US belt would steal the show in my opinion.
Of the three I think Rollins is the most in ring talented and under appriciated. His main event match with Cena last week on Smackdown was pay for view quality. His slightly child like high pitched voice hurts him on the mic, but his actual speaking skills are only slightly less than Ambrose's
Ambrose is by far the best on the mic and a close second in the ring behind Rollins, but for some reason especialy since he got the US belt he spends more time talking than in the ring wrestling, even though matches like the one with Punk a couple weeks ago showed how good he really is .
Reigns to be honest to me is the most over rated, he has the usual limited move set most big guys do, although he has more speed and agility than most to make it look better but so far he's really shown a Spear and Superman Punch mixed with a few basic clothes lines , punches and kicks. Fortuantly for him he has the total package of the monster face look with the Somoan build, long hair and dark tan, and he brings intensity on the mic and between the ropes, I agree with the scuttlebutt that he'll be the fastest rising star out of the bunch, ((and being The Rock's Cousin don't hurt ))!
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Oh and Weatherman, whenever you read this if you like the old AWA and WCW stuff you'd probably like ROH wrestling!
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WWE "Old School" RAW

1-It kicks off with Ric Flair doing his classic act in the ring. Randy Orton comes down and asks the authority to revese thier decession and not give Cena the rematch at the Rumble. He claims he beat Cena and there for is the man, this of course doesn't set well with Ric Flair . Orton claims Flair always had someone watching his back, while he doesn't . He threatens what might happen if Ric doesn't get out of his ring, Ric doesn't back down an inch of course.It gets heated, and down comes Cena to the rescue.Cena wants to fight but Orton backs down.
2-We get a video recap o Daniel Bryan becoming Daniel Wyatt
3-The first match is a six man tag team between the Usos and Rey Mysterio Jr vs Daniel Wyatt, Eric Harper and Luke Rowan. DB is wearing a gray shirtless shirt trouser /work ovehalls thing and Rey tries to talk him out of what he's doing but it doesn't work.
4- We're gonna get a rematch of Damien Sandow vs Kahli with a special refferee since the one last week blew Kahli's foot being on the rope. We can vote on the APP for Sgt Slauhter, Bob Baklaund or Arn Anderson. Kane confronts Brad Maddox about his comments on him not doing his job last week.

5- Big E is on the way to the ring, on the way he passes Nikola Volkov , Ted Dibiase Sr and IRS there for the Old School doing thier classic gimmicks.
It's BIG E vs Curtis Angel with Ryback on commentary.Ryback attempts to distract Big E but it doesn't work, E gets the win with the Big Ending.Seems like the match was meant more to bild het between Ryback and Big E than anything to do with poor Curtis.
6-Piper's Pit with the Shield. This was mic gold with Piper , Ambrose and Rollins. Piper pushed the buttons on the Shield about cracks forming, asking if Reigns beats Punk is he better than the other two, and are they holding him back. Just when it looks like Piper is gonna get hurt , Punk and the New Age Outlaws((Road Dogg and Bad Ass Billy Gunn)) make the save.
7-A video flash back of Brock Lesnar taking out Mark Henry,Brock is here tonight too.
8- But first we get Sin Cara vs Alberto Del Rio again, I guess they remembered the feud started when Sin Cara beat him twice a month ago? Or not, considering Del Rio wins quick and goes on to cut a Rumble promo. Not sure, maybe Sin Cara will be the one to eliminate him? Or maybe since he bashed Batista it's leading up to something between the two, can't see it through...
When we come back we get a Wyatt Family promo, next week Daniel and Bray himself will be tag team partners.
9-Up next is Real Americans vs The Rhodes Brothers , non title . Great , fairly long match and the Rhodes get another win. On one hand it makes the champs look strong for a change, on the other it continues to burry The Real Americans ...
10- A segment with DDP and Booker T backstage doing DDP Yoga, Ron Simmons says it all with "DAMN"
11-The Great Kahli vs Sandow with Sgt Slaughter as the special ref. I hoped Arn Anderson would win myself but everybody knows these app polls are rigged. Kahli has his old manager Rahj Sighn with him, he looks like a creepy hobbitt...this week Ambrose's foot is on the ropes instead of Kahli's and Ref Slaughter misses it just like the regular ref last week. When Sandow complains he ends up in the Cobra Clutch and Sarge dances in the ring with Kahli.
12- Out comes Brock Lesnar with Paul Heyman. After a long promo by Paul , Mark Henry comes out again, and Brock breaks his arm this time with the Chiemara Lock. When Brock goes to leave Big Show comes out, eventually Show tosses Brock out of the ring.
13-Diva tag match, Bella Twins vs Alicia Fox and Askana. Alicia and Askana get the win in a horrible match.
14-Tool Cool and Rikishi vs 3MB. This was the Old School match for the night, and honestly not a bad tag match. Brian Christopher looks so much like his dad now it's scary, Rikishi wrestled fully clothed, no wrestling gear .Rikishi got the pin on Gindar Mahal by setting on him when he attempted a roll up.
15- The Legends have a roll call on the stage , including the God Father at the last minute, and Bad News Barret cuts a promo.
16- Mean Gene comes out and cuts a pretty funny promo about his old 1 900 wrestling news hotline before he announces the New Age Outlaws. They do thier old school DX bit, complete with ASS and SUCK IT in a PG show , color me shocked. then they bring Punk out for the main event.
Main Event-Punk vs Roman Reigns.
It was a solid match, Reigns still needs work in single's competition though. The Outlaws and Shield mixed it up on the outside and Reigns got the win in the ring. After the match was the highlight of the night, when Jake the Snake Roberts came out and did the snake kiss and let the boa crawl on Ambrose!!
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Impact Wrestling tonight ....

1-Dixi Carter calls out AJ Styles to sign a contract for the title vs title match. She announces the contract is for one night, one match and that the match is no Dq. She goes on to wish all kinds of bad things on AJ.

AJ comes back with what will happen if he wins .AJ claims he is ok with the No DQ cause he has friends in the back watching his back. Dixi goes on a rant about how she gave him everything he has for 11 years and , bashes his wife and kids, claims she owns the locker room and noone will help him. She will break AJ tonight, he claims she won't and goes on his own rant about what wrestling and respect for the belt is all about. Magnus' music hits and he comes out as well.
Magnus tells Dixi to leave the ring , it'd all between him and AJ, and that AJ has called him a paper champion for the last time, AJ's time is up. Magnus says AJ ran away and wants back in because he isn't getting any attention since he left TNA, and that while AJ had a good run all good things come to an end because he will end AJ's run tonight, because Magnus is the one real man and champ.
Magnus leaves the ring and AJ talks about how he didn't take shortcuts, but spent 11 years of blood sweat and tears and no matter what happens he'll leave with pride dignity and respect, then what wll Dixi do? He suggests Mangus take his lips off Dixi's ass and ask her. We go to the first commercial break.

1- It went just a tad long for a two hour show, but it might have been the best promo anyone involved has ever cut . AJ is notorius for being terrible on the mic, and he really made this match seen important to him. Dixi is slowly getting better as a heel owner on the mic and Magnus is improving by leaps and bounds as well.

2- We see a promo for the next live free ppv Genisis next week, something will change TNA forever it claims.

3-Back stage Dixi and Knockout champion Gail Kim and her sidekick Lady Tappa discuss something.

Eric YOung and Joheph Parks come out for thier match with Bro-Men while Dixi discusses a plan with Bro-Man themselves, then Zimma Ion announces them for the tag match.

In the middle of the match we see Gail Kim and Taipa beating ODB down so Eric Young runs out of the match to help her, his wrestling "wife" .

The Bro Men, Man, whatever beat up poor Joseph Parks in the ring for a bit before they get the pin. Afer the match they take apart a section of guardrail and hit a sort of Doomsday Device on(( I think they call it the BroDown or Bro Beatdown or something like that)) Parks on the rail in the ring.

Meanwhile yet again back stage Samoa Joe confronts Dixi and claims to be one of the guys who has AJ's back. Dixi threatens to break Joe, putting him in a match with EC3 ....

2- They tried to do way too much in one segment here, three back stage segments during the course of a single match? I get they're building up the heels vs the faces for later tonight but space it out a bit for the love of everything shiney and sparkly! Might as well not even had the match at all if the camera was going to be backstage half of it or better in my opinion.

3- When we come back from the break we see the medical staff taking Parks away, while Eric Young carries an "unconsious " ODB out to take her to the hospital away, meeting Sting in the door as he enteres.

3- Can't help but laugh and be impressed by Eric Young at the same time here, carrying a woman litterally a foot taller and probably close to fifty lbs heavier than him out the door in his arms .

4- James Storm calls out Gunner to discuss the recent trouble between them. Storm talks about his tag team history,Gunner tells him to keep it he has the title shot briefcase, Storm challanges Gunner to one more match for the case, (( I think it'll be some kind of no DQ/street fight or something since Storm made a big deal of both of them liking fights and not liking refs getting in the way, it isn't announced officially yet but probably at the free ppfv next week ...

5- As we go to break we see EC3(( Eric Carter the 3rd)) beating Samoa Joe down in the back. When we come back EC3 and Joe have beaten each other down to the ring area and the match starts . The match is decent while it lasts, until Joe sets EC3 up for the muscle buster in the corner, only to be distracted by Rock Star Spud on the outside . Joe gives chase and EC3 hits him from behind on the ring , when the match gets thrown out as a no contest Ec3 and Spud attack Joe's knee with a pipe wrench.

5- A bright red, hillariously obviously rubber pipe wrench. Worse than the Aces and Eights rubber ball pen hammer when they used it . Nothing metal and painted is that glossy red!

More seriously, it was a good match to begin with an I suspect a rematch some time soon, at the Genisis free live ppfv next week or soon after .

6- Kurt Angle cuts a promo on his steel cage open challange match tonight and his steel cage match with Bobby Rhoode at Genisis next week, with his career on the line then. Calls it the biggest match of his life and claims no matter who he faces in the cage tonight he will be seeing Rhoode .

6- Kurt still has it, in a minute promo he was more intense than other guys in five to ten. He's staring to look like he's back in better shape again too. Makes me think even more he's getting ready for a retirment run in WWE soon.

7- Back from the break we see AJ in the back thinking about the big match. Sting finds Storm and Gunner laid out in the back with whiskey bottles shattered over thier heads. Sting confronts Dixi and she puts him in a match tonight as well...

7-How long is it until we have Sting hanging out in the rafters again? He's way to old to be playing the hero/calvary/savior of the company face at this point in his career.

8- We cut to break as the steel cage lowers and Angle waits to see who opens his open challange. When we come back Bobby Rhoode is out it looks like to answer the challange a week early but he cuts a promo instead, teasing the crowd and Kurt about getting in the cage with Kurt tonight. He announces both of Bad Influence (( Christopher Daniels and Frankie Kazarian))as Kurt's opponents tonight in his place.

It's a good solid match making everyone involved look good. Spot of the week goes to Angle suplexing Kaz off the cage just above the top rope over his back onto Christopher Daniels behind them in the ring. Angle gets the Angle slam on Kazz for the win to defeat them both without having to escape the cage.

8- Like I said before, Kurt still has it unlike a lot of the guys who get the "you still got it " chants. And even though they lost Bad Influence still got enough offense and spots in to look good, why they're not the tag champs instead of Bro Men,Man whatever is beyond me. Could be a "that a boy" to the Bro Men for sticking with TNA through thick thin and horrible gimmicks or maybe they just work for peanuts?

9- After the match before break, we see Dixi in her office screaming at someone to leave the cage down, and when Bobby Rhoode comes in she makes a cage match with him vs Sting for tonight. We go to Kurt taking picture with fans when Al Snow comes in to tell him there's been an emergency and he has to get to the airport. Al has Kurt's bags packed and in the car, Kurt hops in still in his wrestling gear and Al speeds him away from the arena..

10- More of the ongoing "getting rid of AJ's backup" but I gotta admit the mental picture of Kurt rushing through an airport in his ring gear all sweaty and with his gold medals around his neck or on a plane like that is HILLARIOUS.

11- We go to the Sting vs Rhoode inpromptu cage match. If the match was ten minutes at the very most, Rhoode carried 7 total of it on offense and rest holds while Sting corpsed, only to make the classic comeback, he hits a couple of the really horrible splases in the corners before going for the Scorpion Deathlock. Before Rhoode taps out EC3 and Rock Star Spud come to ring side, and while EC3 distracts Sting and the ref on one side by climbing the cage, Spud tosses an expandable wand or baton or whatever it is supposed to be, looks like a laser pointer in an office room presantation to me, and Rhoode clobbers Sting while the ref deals with EC3. Rhoode leaves out the door for the win.

11- What I said above, Rhoode did his best but at this point Sting really, really needs to retire or assume some sort of permanent non in ring role. Rumor has it his contract is up in a few month and he will retire .

12- We get an "Earlier today "segment with Ken Anderson apparently looking for Bully Ray at a funeral home....and then a recap of the comedy act from last week when Bully threatened to burn him and Parks. Bully really is setting on the back pew , doing nothing at the funeral home. He holds Anderson back with the threat of a lighter and fluid again and cuts another Taker wanna be emo promo It all leads up to him saying that while Genisis means the begining it will be the end for Anderson! Bully tells Ken to look in the coffin where he finds what I guess is supposed to be baby clothes of Ken's young daughters? When Ken turns around BULLY BOOGEY MAN IS POOFED!

12- I can't express how bad this entire angle has been since Ken took down Bully and Aces and Eights. Both guys are good on the mic and thier match next week will be good I expect,(( I THINK it's best of 3 falls)) but this is just so lame not even they can make it work....Anderson looked like he was dying trying not to burst in laughter and who can blame him? Not me, all this was missing was Scooby Doo and the Gang...


13- Sting confronts Dixi again and she threatens his contract coming up, I guess the rumors are true? Taz and Mike Tenay build up the main event while a video package of what led up to it plays.
14- The Main Event!!

Let me try real hard to get all this straight...

First as soon as the match starts Magnus takes a breather when he supposedly tweaks his knee, and Rock Star Spud and EC3 hit the ring to attack AJ. AJ holds his own until Sting runs down to make the save.

No sooner than he clears the two of them, Bro Man, Men, whatever and Zimma Ion hit the ring and start working AJ over, then Sting makes another save.

Next it's Bad Influence to help Magnus work AJ over hard , at this point it's eight on two and the ref Earl Hebner refuses to count Mangus pinning AJ. He leaves the ring and Dixie brings his son Brian Ebner down, while Super Sting and AJ fight the world.

But that still isn't enough as Sting manages to get everyone out of the ring and AJ gets his Calf Killer submission on Mangus. When Brian Ebner goes to count Bad Influene hit him and toss him out of the ring while the heels work over Sting and AJ, but they manage to turn it around one more time.

AJ hits the Styles Clash on Magnus with no ref to count, Earl tries to return to the match but Bad Influence pull him out before he can count 3, and dixie brings down yet a third ref.

AJ climbs to the top to hit something but Bobby Rhoode comes down and pushes him off then hits a couple moves and his finisher to serve him up for Magnus who hits ihs own finisher and the ref counts three, Magnus wins and AJ is gone....

14-I'm conflicted, as stupid as that main event was AJ made it look absolutely great, if he had to go then that was one hell of a final curtian call taking on eight guys before he got taken down. Of cours we already knew that in Sting vs the world Sting would win.

On the other hand you made every heel on the roster look terrible including your world champ when they needed eight guys and three refs to get past AJ and a fifty five year old Sting without his ball bat....

One thing I did notice, litterally the only two guys who have been recently active on the shows and didn't pick a side or play a part in the main event where Aries and Sabin. I wonder if next week or the next we'll get an in story explanation for one or both?

My closing thoughts that the Genesis ppv next week is the begining of a new year, and with so many story lines wrapping up we should get some new ones.

I expect the Gunner/Storm feud to be one that lasts for a couple more months at least. I think it would be best for Storm to win Gunner's briefcase to face Magnus right now, as Storm is due a real title run and Gunner isn't quite ready yet.

Rumors continue to fly for the last month since his leaving was announced that TNA and AJ are still in talks and he could return at some point, and speaking of rumors, where there's smoke there's fire. A few things to think about...

Rumors of TNA going out of buisness and or being up for sell for around a year now. Yeah I know, the rumors have come up before but they seem more persistent this time.

Jeff Jarrett has left TNA in the last month and rumored to have some kind of annoucement some time soon, also rumored that country music super star Tobey Keith and former WWE announcer Good OLE JR might be involved, as JR also had a dinner meeting with Keith.

AJ's leaving and supposedly going back to ROH , and the indy circuit, just before the Jarrett/Keith/Ross wrestling project rumors all started.

I think something is up, perhaps either Keith buying TNA with Jarret and or Ross, or with Jarrest and or Ross on board in creative /booking and or announcing some how. I could also see it being the buying of ROH and making it the new #2 in TNA's place, or the three just starting fresh with a new company and possibly brining AJ in as thier champ.
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Smack Down tonight.
1- The Usos vs Luke Harper and Eric Rowan of the Wyatt Family. Good match that goes to a double count out. The Usos barely escape a beat down outside the ring to get jumped on the ramp by Bray Wyatt and Daniel Bryatt.

1- The Usos are one of the best tag teams in wrestling now, or in the past five years at least, maybe longer. They can have a 3 star good match to a five star match with almost anyone and they carried this one.

Other end of the spectrum in my opinion , you find Harper and Rowan, the most generic mediocre "big men" tag team I may have ever seen. I still say these two will be off the main roster and quite possibly out of the company totally by Summerslam at the latest.

2-Randy Orton complains about being in a match to Vicki Gurrero , promises to give the Authority a good talking to come Monday.

3- We get a replay of the fight between BIg Show and Brock on Raw, before Miz TV with Big Show to ask why. Show claims he has never liked Brock and challanges him to a fight . Out come Paul Heyman. Heyman teases the fight, but it'll at the Rumble.

3- Anyone remember how slow and boring the first feud and matches between these two where? One good moment when Brock slammed Show off the top rope and the ring imploded around them. How is it gonna be any better or top that ten years later? The only reason I've heard is to make Brock look like a legit contender for the title, which he already does just fine, and if they wanted to have him in a match at the Rumble one with Mark Henry, Big E or even Ryback would have done the same thing and been something new ....

4-Ryback, Curtis Axel and the Real Americans vs Rey Mysterio , Sin Cara, and Los Matodres in eight man tag . To be fair the match was fast paced and exciting but...

4- I remember a time when Ryback would have beaten three out of four of the other team on his own in a squash handicap match. Or Caesaro would have beaten anyone but Rey in under five minutes.WWE is getting carried away with tag matches, the tag divsion is great but now every show has some kind of six or eight man tag just to see how any mid carders they can get in the ring at one time, these throw away mathces do nothing for anyone in them.

5- Randy Orton vs Big E Langston. Great match, Orton played the cold caculating and cowardly heel against Big E's unstopable power house face to perfection and Big E really turned it up for a match with the champ. Back and forth, Orton got the win with a thumb to the eye and RKO.

5- Despite really bad ring music and attire Big E is getting over despite it all, and enjoying a decent push for now as the IC champ. I hope they keep it up and have him defend the belt against good competition , instead of taking the strap off him and turning him heel when he gets too over like DB. He might be the best or second best young big man in the buisness right now, between him and Magnus over in TNA.
6- Fandango is out with Summer Rey to face Xavier Woods with R Truth and the Funcadactyles. Truth goes to commentary. It's a fast match, and Xavier gets a surprise reversal on a roll up for the win, Summer gets in his face , the Dactyles take her down, Fandango jumps Xavier after the bell, Truth makes the save.
6- This feud has potential between Woods who apparently they're really big on right now, and Fandangoo the guy they used to be really big on who's still a good in ring talent. I didn't understand half of what R Truth said on commentary but it was ammusing between him , Cole and JBL. Expect a tag between these two and Fandangoo and Brotus Clay some time soon, Monday probably or at the Rumble maybe.
7-The Usos cut a promo about thier match with Bray Wyatt and Daniel Bryant on Monday. I can't be sure which of them was doing the majority of the talking but he was pretty intense, a good talker .
8- The Shield is out next to set up the Main Event, Reigns is on the mic first talking about Monday night.He claims to be the new best in the world after beating Punk. Ambrose has a melt down about having Jake put the snake on him Monday and Rollins bashes the New Age Outlaws. The Outlaws come out and Punk is last.
Punk starts things out with Ambrose, then Rollins . The faces, mostly Punk dominate early up to the break, back from the break the heels take over, back and forth before Reigns spears Road Dogg for the win. Decent match for what it was.


8-The Outlaws come out an blow the roof off the place, but they cut to commerical before they can do thier classic bit. Stupid , stupid , stupid....if you're gonna have legends on the show at least use them to full effect and let them do thier thing. Although I have to admit it's getting a little old seeing the old timers and part timers take up main event spots on shows and ppfvs instead of building up the current full time roster like the WWE needs to. As much as I love the Outlaws both where really limited in the ring at thier age now.
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30 Years Ago Today - Monday Night RAW is Born

1993 - The premiere edition of WWF Monday Night RAW came live from the Manhattan Center in New York City, New York. Vince McMahon, Randy Savage and Don Imus radio sidekick Rob Bartlett were on commentary, with Sean Mooney reporting from outside on West 34th Street. Segments throughout the show featured Bobby Heenan, who had been replaced with Bartlett, trying to get in the building. Heenan posed as Bartlett's aunt, and as his uncle, both times being busted by Mooney. Heenan was finally let in at the end of the show.

Results from the show:
- Yokozuna pinned Koko B. Ware with the Banzai Drop.
- The Steiner Brothers (Rick and Scott Steiner) defeated The Executioners, when Rick got the pin after their double-team top-rope bulldog.
- Vince McMahon interviewed Razor Ramon about his upcoming WWF Title match with Bret Hart at the Royal Rumble.
- WWF Intercontinental Champion Shawn Michaels pinned Max Moon after a back suplex to retain the title. During the match, Rob Bartlett and Vince McMahon did a skit where Bartlett played Mike Tyson calling in from prison watching the show. A funny moment was when Bartlett, as Tyson, said that Don King was trying to get his sentence reduced from six years to 72 months.
- The Undertaker pinned Damien Demento with the Tombstone piledriver.
- The show ended with a rundown of next week's card, and Vince McMahon interviewing Doink the Clown, who was warned by Crush not to make the children in the crowd cry. Doink shot Crush with a watergun, and was chased around the ring by Crush to close the show.

Prior to Raw going on the air, Bob Backlund defeated Damien Damento while Cheetah (Ted Pety, who was working under a mask as the Cheetah Kid on the independents) defeated Johnny Rotten (Mike Durham). Cheetah and Rotten would begin teaming as The Public Enemy in ECW before the end of the year.

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30 Years Ago Today - Monday Night RAW is Born

1993 - The premiere edition of WWF Monday Night RAW came live from the Manhattan Center in New York City, New York. Vince McMahon, Randy Savage and Don Imus radio sidekick Rob Bartlett were on commentary, with Sean Mooney reporting from outside on West 34th Street. Segments throughout the show featured Bobby Heenan, who had been replaced with Bartlett, trying to get in the building. Heenan posed as Bartlett's aunt, and as his uncle, both times being busted by Mooney. Heenan was finally let in at the end of the show.

Results from the show:
- Yokozuna pinned Koko B. Ware with the Banzai Drop.
- The Steiner Brothers (Rick and Scott Steiner) defeated The Executioners, when Rick got the pin after their double-team top-rope bulldog.
- Vince McMahon interviewed Razor Ramon about his upcoming WWF Title match with Bret Hart at the Royal Rumble.
- WWF Intercontinental Champion Shawn Michaels pinned Max Moon after a back suplex to retain the title. During the match, Rob Bartlett and Vince McMahon did a skit where Bartlett played Mike Tyson calling in from prison watching the show. A funny moment was when Bartlett, as Tyson, said that Don King was trying to get his sentence reduced from six years to 72 months.
- The Undertaker pinned Damien Demento with the Tombstone piledriver.
- The show ended with a rundown of next week's card, and Vince McMahon interviewing Doink the Clown, who was warned by Crush not to make the children in the crowd cry. Doink shot Crush with a watergun, and was chased around the ring by Crush to close the show.

Prior to Raw going on the air, Bob Backlund defeated Damien Damento while Cheetah (Ted Pety, who was working under a mask as the Cheetah Kid on the independents) defeated Johnny Rotten (Mike Durham). Cheetah and Rotten would begin teaming as The Public Enemy in ECW before the end of the year.

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Cool post, Weather Man!

I recently got the 12 disk Best of Raw dvd collection for Christmas, it's a lot of fun to watch the old stuff but sad when you think about how many of these guys who ain't with us anymore ....
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Since polls and lists are so popular ....
Talents TNA or the new wrestling company of Jarrett's should try to sign!
1- Dolph Ziggler The WWE has really dropped the ball with this guy, he might be just a tad on the small side height wise but other than that he has the look and perfect attitude and ring style to be the All American Hero of a company with his show off gimmick. He reminds me of RVD in his Mr. Monday Night or Whole Fucin Show days. Actually, I always thought Van Dam was a tad over rated even in his prime, so I guess that makes Ziggler as good as RVD and all his fans THOUGHT he was . Amazing in ring talent, and possibly the best move seller in the business .
2-Edwards and or Davey Richards
Recently blown off by HHH as being too small? Either one by himself would be a great foundation guy to build on, or together they make a great tag team. And, being ROH guys it isn't like they're used to making insane amounts of money so they might be there for the getting individually or combined fairly cheap.
3- Chris Hero- Released from Nxt this guy was supposedly better than anyone in the Shield and now he's out there.
4- CM PUNK. With rumors of him not being happy with how he's used and his WWE contract ending soon, this would be a HUGE steal for TNA or another company.
5-AJ Styles, supposedly he left the door open at TNA , if they don't get him back he has a huge fan following and support that would help a new company. Not as young as he used to be but still considered widely as one of if not the best current generation wrestlers and among the best of all time.
6- Wade Barrett - From being the leader of both Nexus, the New Nexus, the Core to feuding with both Cena and Orton for the WWE and WHC belts to now a comedy act going nowhere with them. This guy should have been a top heel by now and the highest he's ever climbed is the IC belt . He's shown he can have great matches with almost anyone of any size or style and he's way above average on the mic, even in this current horrible Bad News Barrett act they have him in .

7- Casesaro- Swagger's partner in the WWE right now, but he was Chris Hero's in RHO, called Kings of Wrestling I believe . He was great as a single US champ in WWE recently, he could be the top heel in any company .6- Drew Mcyntyre . I don't know how long he has left on a WWE contract but TNA let him slip through their fingers a few years ago when he was on the rocks with Vince and company, he could have been a huge grab for them and still could be for them or another company if the chance comes up again.

8- Kevin Steen from ROH, he doesn't have the classic look you want in a wrestler, but he's one of the best heels around , and if I was gonna have any kind of hard core division or matches at all, behind Foley this is the guy I would build it around.
9- Bobby Rhoode of TNA , possibly the best heel in the business today ,if a new company forms he should be high on their radar . From the current feud I think he's getting the official Kurt Angle seal of Approval before he leaves TNA and that says a lot .
10- Drew Mcyntre- A young guy with a lot of potential, especially in the ring, he'd need a manager to do his talking. The WWE seems to be still punishing him for the domestic violence incident with his at the time girl friend Tyran Terell years ago. Compared to some of the stuff other guys have gotten on thier record he isn't all that bad, if I recall she blacked his eye anyway....
This list could be a lot longer, if I was running the new company I'd be after 3/4 of the ROH , and Nxt rosters honestly. And I'm sure there's other great guys I don't even know about in places and companies like CZW and AAA . Anybody got any other suggestions?
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Two late breaking rumors tonight.

The first being another rumor that May Young has passed. She's been in poor health for some time and it was falsely reported she had passed earlier in the week when she was taken off life support at her home where she's under professional care . Now it's coming up again. Best wishes for May and her family and friends.
Either way it turns out, the woman led an amazing life and career .

On a less serious but interesting note, WWE mid card super star Ryback had a tweet that said "Just released thank you" but then deleted it .
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ROH tonight.

Gotta admitt, first time in a good while I've gotten to watch so I'm a little out of the loop myself as far as current feuds and storylines go in ROH. let's see what they got for us these days!

We start off with a video recap of the ending of the main event at the last ppfv . Heel champion Adam Cole retained in a three way match with faces Jay Briscoe and Mike Elgan, with help from a returning Matt Hardy. After the match, Chris Hero returned . At the begining of the night's show we get a mention of AJ Styles returning in 3 weeks.

1-The first match is the first round of the Top Prospect tournament between Ray Rowes and Kongo.
The Top Prospect Tournament every year in ROH takes eight indy wrestlers and gives them a chance to win a ROH contract if I recall correctly.
Ray Rowes, a generic big man with a very Wyattish look , big beard plus shaved head and tattoos . Kongo is a fatter, much whiter version of Umanga or Kamala the Butcher. It was a short match especially by ROH standards, no real stand out spots and neither guy showed me much. Rowes won when he rolled off from under Kongo when he went for a second rope splash in the corner, then hit his own finisher a full nelson slam down onto a rising knee to the back of the head, fairly creative finisher. After the match Mike Elgan came to the ring and hit a Elgan Bomb on the 350 lber , his finisher is a dead lift into an over the shoulder flap jack like side walk slam.
1- I like Elgan beacause of the many impressive feats of strength and smash mouth power house style he wrestlers, but to be honest and objective he's nothing super special outside the strength game. Mediocre in look and mic skills, he needs a little something extra.

2- Elgan cuts a promo talking about it not being over between him and Adam Cole when Chris Hero comes out. He warns Elgan that after they team together against Cole and Hardy in Pittsburg it's every man for himself, then Kevin Steen comes out. He points out that he never got his rematch when he lost the title . They set up the main event for tonight , Steen vs Hero.
2- In my opinion, ROH is taking some steps in the wrong direction and this was a perfect example, a promo that went on way to long especially with one slightly above average mic worker(( Steen)) and two below average to bad mic workers . ROH should stick to focusing on the in ring talent more than story lines or gimmicks in my opinion.

3-Next match, another Top Prospect match between The Benchmark Bill Dailey who has a rich cocky heel gimmick , he withdraws from the tournament . This sets up the new match between the members of the indy tag team Alabama Atittude Mike Posey and Corey HollIS . It looks like Posey is playing the heel by challanging his partner for this match after Dailey withdrew , while Hollis seems to be playing the naive babyface. Hollis wins after kicking out a top rope leg drop by Posey then hitting him with a spinning back elbow.
Both guys where decent but again, nothing outstanding. It was longer than the first match and they sold the "tag partners on the verge of splitting up" story well.

4- We get another video recap of C&C Wrestling Factory losing thier title shot against Red Dragon and deciding to split up. In a twist they actually decided to split the team up and went thier seperate ways on good terms instead of the usual tag team split up by turning on one another .

5-Jay Lethal vs Caprice Coleman, Lethal is something of a tweener these days, while for now Caprce is still a full blown face as a single's wrestler . Coleman really showed he has it to make it in the single's path. Among the moves he hit was a triple roll through Northern Lights Suplex, a tope rope split leg drop, and a modified Book End . Lethal won with the Lethal Injection , an off the ropes spring board stone cold stunner like manuver. He congradulated Coleman then accepted Tampka's challange as the champion asked him to face him again for the telivision belt because it was in a match with Lethal when Tampka got a injury that put him out a year.

Jay Lethal is one of the most under appriciated wrestlers around in my opinion, his size hurts him but he's as good as anyone in the ring and on the mic. His homage to Randy Savage gimmick in TNA was the only comedy gimmick I've ever appriciated and enjoyed really in recent memory.
6- A promo by the Brisco Brothers for Jay's upcoming rematch with Mike Taven , personally I think the Brisco's might be the most over rated wrestlers I've ever seen. They shine in brawls and hardcore and gimmck mathes but are mediocre in regular matches due to in my opininmediocre ability. As far as mic kl they're foul mouthed toothless redneck Stone Cold wanna e rp offs, without any of the charisma Austin brought to the gimmick. It makes me want to kick a baby duckling everytime someone compares them to the Legion of Doom/Road Warriors just because they use the Doomsday Device as a tag team finisher.

7-The Main Event.
Kevin Steen vs Chris Hero. The crowd started the "This is Awesome " chant as soon as both men where in the ring. It started out a slow technical catch as catch can with Hero getting the clear advantage while Steen subtley played a border line heel role by constantly using the ropes to break holds . It picks up with more fast paced and hard hitting moves, Steen getting the advantage and then back and forth. Alternating "Let's go Hero" and "Let's go Steen " chants fom the crowd throughout .
Steen hits his version of the F-5 and Swanton Bomb for 2 counts, Hero counters for a 2 count with Golden Elbow and Savat Kick combo, but BJ Whitmere ,Steen hits the Sleeper Power Bomb for the win. Whitmere and Jaccobs attack Hero after the match while someone(( they shouted a name but I couldn't catch it jumped Steen with some kind of rope or chain from the crowd and choked him out as the show ended.
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