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Mythzors
Topic Started: Dec 23 2010, 12:20 PM (88 Views)
Laraqua
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Okay, now some of us have read the books. We know what a spirit is or what an abyssal or a demon is and what the differences are. However, the characters shouldn't. Heck, even those with lots of dots in occult are unlikely to believe that spirits are what they are unless they are also animists. So those who believe in Jehovah, as God, whether Lancea Sanctum or otherwise, would have their confidence shaken to believe that there are spirits - so why not believe they are treacherous ghosts? Crone tricks? Or roleplay your character coming to terms with the fact that God may very well not exist (that's what werewolves have to deal with in order to belive in spirits).

Okay, say you do know spirits exist, does that mean you know they feed on essence? Why not on sacrifices of images in their name? Why would you think they existed in another world and weren't just the souls of objects fettered inside?

What about Mages ... if you have an anecdote about a Mage, what did your character see / hear / feel? Would you really know they thought they were from Atlantis? If so, how ludicrous does that sound.... And what about that one time you confronted a pyrokinetic (psychic) or hedge witch, thinking they were a Mage, and they responded differently. What about if your first contact with a Mage involved a Paradox effect? The Mage popped out of nowhere and Bedlam happened and the walls oozed blood ... are Mages Mages then, or just Crone? Or what about if you came across a Mage hoax that did turn out to be Crone?

As for the Abyss, well, to a demonologist, it'd just be a layer of hell, or perhaps a pocket surrounding hell. For animists, it'd be the grand nothingness from which the world was sculpted, perhaps, or the force or entropy, or perhaps just a lie given by the Jehovah worshippers. For the non-occultists, it sounds like a whole bunch of bunk.

And Dr. Taylor was a demon, right? But he was a ghost ... so does that mean all ghosts are demons? Or are demons what happens when a vampire dies and leaves a ghost, thus showing the damnation of all vampires? Is Seamus just mental? Was there even a possession or did the Ordo Dracul convince themselves that Seamus was being possessed as part of some grand mass hystery? For those whose first contact with demons was a Taylor-ghost-riding-Seamus, well, how will that affect how you respond to demons in future?

So, in short, feel free to come up with random anecdotes, urban myths, 'friend-of-a-friend-of-mine-saw' tales, about the supernatural. Take a tiny slice of it and turn it on its head. What looks like a haunting could be an abyssal manifestation, a wyrm's nest, a loci, an adolescent psychic, a ghost, a demon, a spirit, delusions, Bedlam, or even a Mysterious Place, among many other things. Your character isn't stupid for getting it wrong. You should get it wrong.

Peter Walsh once thought that Changelings were the servants of the fae left in the cribs of those taken and then discovered that, in fact, Fetches are. Now he thinks Changelings are still servants of the fae (he met one, it was too crazy to think on) and that they just don't like Fetches who get to live the lives they wanted. Or something, he's not sure. He just doesn't want to deal with them again.
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The great thing about WoD is while it's pretty heavily systematized, there's still plenty of stuff out there that's just basically inexplicable. :D

The strange mutation that person is manifesting could be because they're claimed, or maybe thousands of years ago their ancestors bred with strange things in the night that should not be. Could be anything! :D
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And that's even before you bring in your characters' perspective on things. Are changelings really fae or just spirit claimed folk who've made a joint deal about the same lie? Or are they mages? Or something else? Who knows?

It's good grist for the rumor mill. The occultists, in particular, can really take it and run with it. Confusing things is good roleplaying because your characters should be confused.

hehe, and the great thing is, since I run Mage and Werewolf now, I decide which set of tales is right, if any. I decide if there are gods or just spirits or if Jehovah is really up there. Only thing I can't decide is stuff about the Hedge or Arcadia or the origins of Changelings right now. But yes, demons might all just be goetic in nature, or they might all have been ghosts once (Supernaturals-style) or they might be fallen angels. The Inferno might be true or false. Or it might be true but there's also Fallen Demons running around.

And what's the Abyss? Could be the crater that the Demi-Urge fell into when he was cast out of heaven or sent himself into exile. Maybe vampires exist because a sliver of the Abyss got inside of them - Stryx suddenly become hard-core. Who knows how Kult the back story might be?
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