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LARGER MENU DONE; An entirely new game/mod
Topic Started: Jul 10 2008, 09:41 AM (2,432 Views)
Arkona
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Quite a while back, before I joined here, a few of the members of the Hlöðskviða guild got together to work on the ultimate Carnivores mod; we downloaded several different editing/extracting devices from various sites, created our own editors for this game, got ahold of the source code, and created our own game HLÖÐSKVIÐA, in our own name.


Here is the title menu:

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And, the menu, with several new features described below:

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Rank is back; Novice until 300 points, then comes Advanced; Expert is waiting at 2500 points.

The menu doesn't fit on the screen. You can scroll by click-dragging the menu.

Local time changes day/noon/night to whatever time you are currently at; day begins at 6:00am, noon begins at 12:00pm, and night begins at 8:00pm.

Debug Mode now stays through hunts; no more rushing to type it in at the start of the hunt.

Excessive gore makes a TON of blood / body bits. Even with the pistol, blood splashes everywhere. Fun to use with powerful guns.

Switch to challenge _RES automatically (nice!) edits the game's _RES.txt to have the same stuff as the challenge _RES I made (it's somewhere on this forum).

Several new location changes:
-All C1 stages have been given more/different objects.
-Oium Fortifications was re-done; it now looks more like a network of walls, tunnels, and bridges.
-Added Espadon, a very challenging new track.

Compiled all dinosaurs. Added poachers to the ambient dinosaurs.

Added chaingun and rocket launcher guns. Chaingun is odd: It starts very slowly firing; with each successful target, it grows twice as fast and twice as powerful. Try it out on Brachiosaurus and watch how fast you can deplete its 30 shots. Rocket launcher fires a bullet; if it lands successfully on a dinosaur, there is a short delay, then an explosion. Fun to use with Excessive Gore option.

T-Rex tranqs are just as they sound; they tranq a T-Rex. Tried to make a resting animation, it looks ugly and fake but it works.

Sigil of Baphomet is fun. It is a duration-based accessory; for ~5 seconds, you will be immune to dinosaur attacks (BUT NOT LAVA OR DROWNING).

Custom Song option is great. When you select a song (which you have to insert yourself), it loops continuously through the hunt. However, it replaces random/ambient sounds (all of them; even if you switch location, say, from water to land, it will not interrupt your song).

Some things such as price and starting score are yet to be determined, so they have been left off of the menu. Do not pay attention to the 100 in the first screenshot.

However, there are several reasons of why we aren't allowed to distribute this game:

-It contains symbols/imagery copyrighted by the Hlöðskviða guild.
-It contains excessive gore, for which the content rating is modified from its original class (in this case, from T to M).
-Some other legal stuff.

For now it's enough to know that it is possible to edit like this; we'll try to find a way to make it so that it can qualify as legal freeware.

It sucks, I know, but just hang in there and it will be legal freeware soon enough.
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þat mun æ uppi;
illr er dómr norna.

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raptorkiller2
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How the *insert choice of expletive here* are you making animations, bigger menus, songs, even *expletive deleted* new equitment!, new animals, gore? how did you do this!!!!

give me editors! or its fake. one or the other
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Well then if it is real then put it up for downloading to prove it.
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Arkona
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then put it up for downloading to prove it.



Um... did you read ANY of this:

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However, there are several reasons of why we aren't allowed to distribute this game:

-It contains symbols/imagery copyrighted by the Hlöðskviða guild.
-It contains excessive gore, for which the content rating is modified from its original class (in this case, from T to M).
-Some other legal stuff.


I don't know where you live but in my country we have what is called "Author's Rights", "Copyright Laws", perhaps you have heard of this?

Join Hlöðskviða and I can give you a copy. If you don't, you'll have to wait until I patch out some of the copyrighted material (ie. Espadon will have to be entirely replaced, as Espadon and its concept are both, under copyright laws, owned by Hlöðskviða)

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How the *insert choice of expletive here* are you making animations, bigger menus, songs, even *expletive deleted* new equitment!, new animals, gore? how did you do this!!!!


And by the way, did you also read the part about this:

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got ahold of the source code,


Do you know why they have a private forum here for discussion about the source code? Do you think machf and DinoGuy1000 are the only ones who have the source code? And are you a hacker, or, do you just come here to download stuff? Things are MADE by hackers. They are DOWNLOADED by people who are too dumb to make a prog themselves.

Does anyone actually read what I type? Or, do they just look at pictures? I know you're probably skeptical; Give me ~1 month, or so, and this will be out. I just have to change some things around.
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illr er dómr norna.

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Arkona,Jul 10 2008
10:22 AM
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then put it up for downloading to prove it.



Um... did you read ANY of this:

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However, there are several reasons of why we aren't allowed to distribute this game:

-It contains symbols/imagery copyrighted by the Hlöðskviða guild.
-It contains excessive gore, for which the content rating is modified from its original class (in this case, from T to M).
-Some other legal stuff.


I don't know where you live but in my country we have what is called "Author's Rights", "Copyright Laws", perhaps you have heard of this?

Join Hlöðskviða and I can give you a copy. If you don't, you'll have to wait until I patch out some of the copyrighted material (ie. Espadon will have to be entirely replaced, as Espadon and its concept are both, under copyright laws, owned by Hlöðskviða)

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How the *insert choice of expletive here* are you making animations, bigger menus, songs, even *expletive deleted* new equitment!, new animals, gore? how did you do this!!!!


And by the way, did you also read the part about this:

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got ahold of the source code,


Do you know why they have a private forum here for discussion about the source code? Do you think machf and DinoGuy1000 are the only ones who have the source code? And are you a hacker, or, do you just come here to download stuff? Things are MADE by hackers. They are DOWNLOADED by people who are too dumb to make a prog themselves.

Does anyone actually read what I type? Or, do they just look at pictures? I know you're probably skeptical; Give me ~1 month, or so, and this will be out. I just have to change some things around.

You now Arkona.You,ve been doing nothing but show off attitude these days.And plus i come here to download stuff and hack in to carnivores.Heck did you,ve even take a look at my carnivores jurassic.It prove,s that i hacked into the game and programed all that stuff.
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Arkona
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show off attitude these days


Quite frankly, I just show things as they truly are, and people hate what they see. Family Guy, American Dad, The Simpsons, they do it too.

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Heck did you,ve even take a look at my carnivores jurassic.It prove,s that i hacked into the game and programed all that stuff.


I didn't look at it because I'm busy at other places. Re-skinning dinosaurs / making new tracks is modding. And if you used machf's tools, then it is editting. Hacking is when you edit hard-coded material to change things around. Example; we can "create our own guns" through modding the .Car and _RES, but try making the guns any faster than they already are. It can't be done with machf's .CAR file editor. You have to hack it.

Oh, and, by the way, I'll bet your Carnivores Jurassic is a hoax. Hmhm. Not so fun, is it?

Here is a screenshot of the animation replacer. One prog is used to create or edit existing animations, then the .CAR is opened with this; click "Replace", click "Animation", choose the animation you want to replace, choose the file with its replacement. Similar to machf's editors. There's more editing progs but this is the only one I have with me now.

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And, um.... just a pointer.... I hope English is not your primary language... I'm just saying I can barely understand anything you type...
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þat mun æ uppi;
illr er dómr norna.

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What the heck.Now you showing it agian.My carnivores jurassic mod is not a hoax.Because what did looks full proof and if bieleve me pm(Persannal message)P.Rex he has the prototype of carnivores jurassic.Your mod on the other hand looks like you used a photoshop and edited the pictures to make it look real.
And dont be thinking about posting more **** or things are going to be ugly.
(None of this meant to be rude)


Speaking of which were can i find that animation replacer
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P.Rex
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This mod looks grand, almost too much so. Which is why I find it a bit too hard to believe.

You say that you made this mod using various tools from different sites, one of them being able to edit animations in CAR files. Links, please?

Also, you said that you are a member of the Hlöðskviða guild. A guild of what, may I ask? I looked it up on Google and found null. Hlöðskviða is an ancient text, which currently isn't copyrighted by anyone.

Hell, this thing is even bigger then my Super-EXE idea (which is a real idea of mine, and many members here will confirm that). If it's real, you have to give us some sort of proof. Anything.
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P.Rex,Jul 10 2008
10:23 AM
This mod looks grand, almost too much so. Which is why I find it a bit too hard to believe.

You say that you made this mod using various tools from different sites, one of them being able to edit animations in CAR files. Links, please?

Also, you said that you are a member of the Hlöðskviða guild. A guild of what, may I ask? I looked it up on Google and found null. Hlöðskviða is an ancient text, which currently isn't copyrighted by anyone.

Hell, this thing is even bigger then my Super-EXE idea (which is a real idea of mine, and many members here will confirm that). If it's real, you have to give us some sort of proof. Anything.

i so agree with you/this. its almost too perfect. even a quick fraps video would please us. such as the chaingun!

if you post a fraps video with a yeti and a rex at once on a new map with the chaingun and rocket launcher, we won't dobt you
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My carnivores jurassic mod is not a hoax

I was being sarcastic.
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/sarcastic

And by the way, I'm not being hostile with you. Just so you know.

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You say that you made this mod using various tools from different sites, one of them being able to edit animations in CAR files. Links, please?

Members of my guild used them to create their own editors. I don't know which ones they used. I'll ask.

And, check my previous post, there is a partial screenie of one of the programs used for the animations. Many of the animations are modified versions of the EXPLO.CAR or whatever it's called.

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Hlöðskviða is an ancient text

Uh... yeah...

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I looked it up on Google and found null

Underground guild... Some bands are underground too, especially blackmetal. If you don't live in our region, you're probably not going to know who we are.

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Hell, this thing is even bigger then my Super-EXE idea

Do you know how many people / hours were involved in this?

If I provided a link to this as it currently is, I would be going against not only the wishes of my guild but also against my religion. I don't know how Christians view crime but in my religion, crime is taken very seriously and *your membership will be terminated without prior notice*.


And for all future reference, because I don't think anyone heard me the first time, DO NOT RESPOND OR TALK TO ME IF YOU DON'T READ MY FULL REPLIES TO OTHERS. AND, THIS IS NOT THE ONLY FORUM OR GROUP DEDICATED TO HACKING THIS GAME. OTHER GROUPS HAVE GOTTEN MUCH FURTHER THAN THE SAGA FORUM! (not shouting; I'm just making this noticeable)
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if you post a fraps video with a yeti and a rex at once on a new map with the chaingun and rocket launcher, we won't dobt you


Okay, I'll do it with my digital cam later. Right now I'm hacking houndooms into my pokemon game.
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I am sorry about all this Arkona :(.I,am.Still now what sarcasm is.And iam with every one this looks like a hoax.But were can i find that Animation replacer.
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I am sorry about all this Arkona

That's okay. I'm friendly.

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were can i find that Animation replacer

My computer. I'll ask permission if I can put it on fileupyours or whatever the site is called. I didn't create the program so I have to *ask the program's creator* or whatever before I can upload it.

Also on the issue of copyright -

When I do the video I'm not putting up a song (just ambient sounds). All the songs I have registered in my copy of HLÖÐSKVIÐA are copyright by other people and the jewel cases say that the songs are for *my private use only*, but I don't see why, when other people put them on youtube...
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I believe you. I can't wait to play it. I hope you get permission soon.
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I believe you. I can't wait to play it. I hope you get permission soon.


Well, thanks.

My game is missing something apparently because when I shoot the ground, no dirt clods fly up and dinosaurs aren't leaving blood trails... but the preview of the game they showed me kicked ****. Whatever is needed to be installed on my pc is apparently missing.
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Arkona,Jul 10 2008
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I believe you. I can't wait to play it. I hope you get permission soon.


Well, thanks.

My game is missing something apparently because when I shoot the ground, no dirt clods fly up and dinosaurs aren't leaving blood trails... but the preview of the game they showed me kicked ****. Whatever is needed to be installed on my pc is apparently missing.

QUESTION!

could you theoretically us the ai to make the pachycephalosaurus dangerous, like the triceratops

ps why is everything free????
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Arkona,Jul 10 2008
11:37 AM
OTHER GROUPS HAVE GOTTEN MUCH FURTHER THAN THE SAGA FORUM!

Your mod looks very interesting, I hope you can get permission soon. What other Carnivores groups are there?
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We are sorry for doubting, but we've been deceived many times by even our own members. Proof would be nice, but unfortunately pictures are not enough (photoshop anyone? Visual BASIC for the 'tools'??) We are not expecting you to break the law, and no Christianity does not permit going against the law on the grounds of selfishness.
First thing to realize however is that the 'game' they made off the engine is NOT under copyright laws. The game and all modifications are, legally, the property of the owners of the game (look it up), including music added. The only exception would be if the 'Hlöðskviða' actually bought the copyright for the music (in which case you would be adding the game to the resources, not resources to the game). So you would not be going against the law if you gave us the game, however you would (perhaps) be going against your word to the 'Hlöðskviða' if they indeed exist, which may in turn go against your religion (that is, if you are not already going against it now).
Perhaps you can post a .car file?
http://www.carnivoressaga.com/
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adelphospro,Jul 11 2008
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We are sorry for doubting, but we've been deceived many times by even our own members. Proof would be nice, but unfortunately pictures are not enough (photoshop anyone? Visual BASIC for the 'tools'??) We are not expecting you to break the law, and no Christianity does not permit going against the law on the grounds of selfishness.
First thing to realize however is that the 'game' they made off the engine is NOT under copyright laws. The game and all modifications are, legally, the property of the owners of the game (look it up), including music added. The only exception would be if the 'Hlöðskviða' actually bought the copyright for the music (in which case you would be adding the game to the resources, not resources to the game). So you would not be going against the law if you gave us the game, however you would (perhaps) be going against your word to the 'Hlöðskviða' if they indeed exist, which may in turn go against your religion (that is, if you are not already going against it now).
Perhaps you can post a .car file?

a car file would be nice, eg chaingun. but a video would be cool because the rocket launcher probably involved hacking the SC
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I don't see a thing, so I'm reluctant to believe it.
If you really got the source code, you can provide a listing of the files comprising it.
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Ahh smart!
http://www.carnivoressaga.com/
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Hey when I see the tools and some images, considering the actual images DO NOT EXIST ON THIS FORUM!
Ill believe you when I see cold hard proof between my darned fingers, MachF, Myself and AdelphosPro have all 'hacked' the game and its files, and made tools for various formats.

[I removed this part of the post, due to it being offensive to some very very special people]

I have been working on tools for Carnivores for a short while now and I know its not impossible to make fantastic tools, especially with correct resources and a team to help, but basically you've thrown EXCREMENT in our face just to stir a beehive up.
Guess what you're gonna get stung something shocking.

Excuse my terrible cursing but this is too fake for me, it sickens me that there are people in the world that think its fun to do stuff like this, first someone hacks Pokemon Platinums website and thinks hes cool, well that guys so **** lame that he should be in the Guinness book of records, now you are telling us you have what we have been wanting and working for, for so long? No thanks, I don't buy it one little bit!

EDIT: Please cool down and watch the language! -Admin
EDIT: Sorry I fixed the post up a little bit :)
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Take a chill pill man if you indeed created what you said it would be amazing. we just want to, you know, make sure this isn't a load of bullcrap.

Ps dont take this as an offence or any thing
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Look, Arkona, instead of throwing insults around, maybe you can stand your ground in a LEGITIMATE way? If you mod is real, then simply post proof instead of just insulting everyone for revealing your little prank.

Oh, by the way, I see you have decided to go with this all the way through and say bad things about my comics. Now, if you really don't like it, fine; but that doesn't mean you can just throw filth around. You said that my comics are dry and my jokes offensive; alright! Can you give an example? No, of course you can't. You probably didn't even bother to read one page, you're just jealous because myself and other people here actually CREATE something and get recognition for it, while you just try to achieve popularity with lies.
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You know Ark, your probably gonna get banned, but not for claiming you have a really good mod. Just to let you know.

We do not mean in insult you, we just want to know so we can be happy <i>with</i> you.

We are more than willing to believe you, but you need to <i>at least</i> prove your character to us, which what you just said is not helping in the least bit.
Really though, we don't even need 'proof' like files that make up the code (which BTW you should provide through PM to Machf), just simply show us that you can be trusted.
Just note that most people who read your post are not going to be thinking that. No offense, but really.
As for personal problems, those are between you, God, and the people involved in your life. No need to 'vent' on us who are people you probably do not want to share these problems with anyway (and flaming us for what anyway?)

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Also, I juast have to address this. Not all groups dedicated to Carnivores are on the (internet)


Maybe we should go knocking door to door asking for people who like the carnivores games.
Really though, you can't play carnivores without a computer, and you cannot download mods without a computer & the internet (could do floppy or dvd, but still:)
It makes sense that the most popular (and largest) fan sites would be open to people all over the world (ie the internet). :)
Perhaps you can give us an address or telephone number?
http://www.carnivoressaga.com/
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OK, I'm not a fan of banning people, but Arkona is asking for it. I've deleted his insult post (there's really no purpose in keeping it), and I'm locking this thread.
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