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~Frigidus Sanguis~ 2018; New Year, New Thread
Topic Started: 17 Feb 2018, 04:20 PM (1,990 Views)
Bad Moon
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Hi folks,

Been a long time and I've had lots of distractions, but I've finally managed to catch up with my hobby plans.

In no small part this has been helped along by meeting fellow Bunkerite, Werhner; we've now got a small group together in North London and are currently putting together an Inq28 campaign. That's meant I've finally had to finish some minis!

I've now finished my Noble House warband ahead of our first game. Some of these models you might have seen before, either in my earlier threads, or on Instagram/Pinterest, although they have changed a little over time with tweaks here and there.

Description text spoilered to keep things tidy(ish). Without further ado, here are the models...

Visconte Titus Di Corbulio - Hereditary Hab-Sector Ruler:
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Syr Zanthamel von Ymir:
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Syr Balphorus Ziegl:
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Gulnan Vrax, Titus Corbulio's personal Footman and bodyguard, Techno-Barbarian of the Chem-Wastes:
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Grigori, Syr Balphorus Ziegl's personal Footman:
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Armed with an autorifle. He displays his master's black and gold colours in a check pattern.

Lubovir, Syr Zanthamel von Ymir's Footman:
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Armed with drum-fed shotgun. He displays his master's red and gold colours in a check pattern.

Ymir's personal combat Servo-Skull, designated unit D1-48-0L-V5:
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With Ymir being a ranged specialist, he uses the servo skull as close-quarters defense.

Ymir with his entourage:
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Ziegl and his retainer:
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Corbulio himself, and Gulnan Vrax:
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The whole crew:
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A very characterful group! The Imperial noble is especially clever -- I actually had to look twice before I recognised the model you've used as a base (the plastic Archon, right?). Is there a story behind his blueish skin tone, or was that merely a stylistic choice?
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17 Feb 2018, 04:33 PM
A very characterful group! The Imperial noble is especially clever -- I actually had to look twice before I recognised the model you've used as a base (the plastic Archon, right?). Is there a story behind his blueish skin tone, or was that merely a stylistic choice?
Thanks KS!

Ah, this is where not writing much in the way of description bites me on the backside! The colour on his head is intended to be an ancient mask covered in verdigris, while his hands are my usual pallid grey skintone which, to me, suits Hive dwellers regardless they be uphive or downhive, I think even the nobles see little sunlight under the industrial smog.

And yes, he's based on the DE Archon, in fact the whole model was inspired by, and is a bit of a homage to, Picta Mortis' excellent bounty hunter.

I'll edit in some of the text from my old thread, where I went into a bit more detail about the warband, but I'll put it in spoilers so as not to clog things up.
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These are great, love the sense of arrogance to the more prominent members of the warband!

Curious about the north London Inq28 crowd, how many members have you got? Any bunkerites?
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17 Feb 2018, 10:49 PM
These are great, love the sense of arrogance to the more prominent members of the warband!

Curious about the north London Inq28 crowd, how many members have you got? Any bunkerites?
Thanks Lysimachus! Glad they give off that vibe.

So as far as Bunkerites are concerned it's just Werhner and I, but we got in touch and started attending Titans Wargames Club, based in North London as a place to play our games (they have a Facebook page if you want to check them out).

So far we've just played a few games of 8th Edition 40k and a few of Necromunda (though neither of us used the standard gangs, so technically Inq28 I suppose). The rest of the club primarily plays 40K and 30K, and Bloodbowl, but a handful of them have taken interest in and joined our Inq28 campaign, which we're starting tomorrow as it happens!, I think we had three members interested but due to circumstances that's now reduced down to one (possibly two) other than Werhner and I for the start of the campaign.

We'd be quite happy for more London-based Bunkerites to get involved! If you want to PM me some contact details we can sort something out.
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Ah, a mask, then. If anything, I like the model even more now: The fact that he's wearing a mask adds a theatrical, opulent touch to his character that is a great fit for an Imperial noble: After all, we cannot even begin to imagine the byzantine traditions and fashions of his station in life, eh?

Please feel free to add in some written background -- and don't bother with spoiler tags, at least not on my account! After all, this is not an Instagram feed: It's perfectly acceptable to have some actual written language in between the pretty pictures ;)
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this thread is an absolute inspiration. the color palette alone is so evocative of a greater atmosphere that extends beyond the models, even in the absence of terrain.
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Those are some very cool minis, enhanced by your unique painting style. Syr Balphorus Ziegl looks like he should be fronting Queen.
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What a wonderful group of arrogant, trumped up thugs masquerading as royalty ;)

In addition to all the previous comments on how stellar the paintwork is, I really like how you've managed to give the 'higher' members of the group a palpable air of arrogance, and the retainers a real rough and ready feel. Fits their background perfectly (speaking of which I say no spoiler tags too, forums are great for telling stories like this) :)

Oh, and the remade Ripper Gun is also a brilliant touch :)
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@KS: Thanks man, glad you feel it improves the model thematically! And yes indeed, was going for a very decadent and depraved atmosphere with the nobles.

@youidiotkid: Thanks so much! High praise indeed!

@euansmith: Thanks mate, always glad to hear your feedback. Happy he gives off that vibe! For me he was combination of Adam Ant, King Charles II, Michael Wincott and Dracula-era Gary Oldman, but I definitely see the Freddie Mercury angle!

@Ynneadwraith: Thanks man! Great that this comes across as I really wanted to emphasize the arrogance of the nobles and the divide between the upper and lower tiers of the group!

After the frenzy of activity to get this group done, things have slowed down considerably for me on the hobby side of things, or at least the building and painting for Inq28 side.

Reason being that the Noble House warband was (and remains) something of an experiment for me; an experiment I am still waiting to see the results from, in a sense, and in the meantime I am reluctant to work on any more warbands, even as I am champing at the bit to do just that.

Having been a stickler for WYSiWYG for old Necromunda and having tried (and failed) to get some kind of modularity via magnets, I resorted to just making this warband without any such considerations. I'm extremely happy with it, in fact it remains the first warband I've completed and am happy with (enough not to tear it to pieces and restart) since I first got back into the hobby three years ago.

But the Inquisimunda campaign I am currently involved in with this warband will be the real test of how the non-magnetised models fit with the campaign progression and mechanics - and how that fits with me!

I feel like I have to wait and see how the characters change and develop on paper, and how I feel about how that sits with the actual models. I have seen others say elsewhere that gang member gear rosters donít seem to change that much in the course of a campaign, so maybe it's a non-issue. We will have to see.

Another facet of this is that, quite simply, my tastes have changed and evolved.

I've spent a good deal of time analysing and mulling over the minis from the Inq28 community that I really love, looking at the how and why they seem to capture the essence of the Grimdark aesthetic so well - and how I can steer my own efforts more in this direction.

A particular focus of this has been on John Blanche's own miniature conversions - I'm planning to make a blog post about this in the near future, and I may well post here about it as well.

Essentially, I think I may have started to figure out what, for me, is a "purer" approach to the models that results in them being far more satisfying. I experimented with this a little with the two noble henchmen - the footmen - who despite being the lowliest members of the crew, are possibly my favourites of the bunch as a result.

I love the ideas and conclusions I have come to, but I do need to see how this approach fits with actual gaming, and my OCD!

This creative development has also lead me to have more of a leaning towards Forge World models, which are of course more expensive. Thus, Iím not really prepared to start more potentially expensive warband projects if I'm not yet sure of my hobby direction.

When I started to get back into the hobby three years ago, it all started with Imperial Guard - my 40k army of choice as a teenager. The plan was to just put together a "sample" squad as a Kill Team/Shadow War group, and perhaps a tank or two for the sake of it. I donít have the time, money, or patience to put together a full Guard army these days, so just a sample seemed to fit the bill for me.

The plan was also to try and make the Guard a "realistic" military force. Then I got into Inq28 and all that got sidelined.

Again, my tastes have changed. By now "realistic" has largely (though not entirely) gone out the window and I'm far more interested in communicating the Grimdark, Baroque, gribbly, and techno-medieval-religiosity themes of 40K. Indeed, it has become something of an obsession.

On the Inq28 side of things I have probably a dozen warband ideas gestating, some have been on paper or in early blu-tack stages for a VERY long time; Ordo Hereticus, Ecclesiarchy, Techno-Barbarians, Mechanicvm, Arbites, Chaos (plus corrupted Inquisitors and Mechanicvm), Necromunda gangs, and moreÖ

Plus, even though I am happy with the Nobles, I think I can do better with my new approach and some Forgeworld bits, so I have plans for a second Nobilite warband.

But as I mentioned, I am resisting for now, in the hope that I will soon come to some solid conclusion on where I want to go with my warband modelling as a whole, and will then be able to surge forward with productive gusto.

In the meantime, however, that brings me back to the Guard "sample" squad. As this doesn't bump up against the same warband and campaign-centric, Necromunda-based, WYSiWYG obsession issues, I feel ok with grappling with them. I also have some old tank kits I will resurrect with some much-needed TLC, and one of the newer Russ kits which I built a while back but am yet to finish.

What's more, for the first time in my nearly two-decade on-again-off-again involvement with the hobby, I have, with the release of the Primaris models, finally caught the Space Marine bug. Thus, I am looking at a small combined Imperial force of Marines with supporting Guardsmen. Both the Guard regiment and Marine chapter will be homebrew with accompanying fluff.

I hope no-one minds me posting Marines and Guard in here, as I know it's not strictly Inq28, but it will be primarily an art project probing the 40K aesthetic in a similar manner, and it will also be a very small army.

For now, I'm going to post some very WIP snapshots of the Guardsmen of the 509th Tethan Combined Arms Brigade (name subject to change).

With this project, my overall theme and "brief", so to speak, is to get to the core of the idea behind the Imperial Guard. To that end, I want to try to visualise what it would look like to take a levy of medieval (say, 15th century) peasant soldiers, of the God(-Emperor)-fearing variety, give them laser rifles, and push them into WW1-era trench warfare.

Think War of The Roses meets WW1. With lasers.

To me that's what the Guard in 40K is all about.

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Thus, their equipment style will be a combination of "issue" gear - the Lasgonne, some boots, a jerkin in the regimentís colours, and a munitions-grade breastplate - together with the more sort of rag-tag stuff Medieval soldiery would just sort of turn up with; various types of helmet (though there will be some appearing more than others to imply some kind of central armoury from which kit is drawn), additional armour parts, bags and backpacks, and personal melee weapons (axes, clubs, machetes).

I'm shaving off the combat trouser pockets, and will be painting them in a variety of neutral tones (some may have stripes or checks) to suggest they show up with their own breeches, and are not issued anything more than the jerkin and boots clothes-wise.

Plus of course, the signature 40K religious items; purity seals, small books, relics/reliquae, tokens, totems, charms, prayer papers etc. I imagine these chaps are a superstitious lot.

Many of the heads are just placeholders for now and I'm still waiting on some bits. I have some less techy Sallets on the way for these grunts, but don't worry, the Skitarii Vanguard Sallets will be finding their way onto a unit of better-equipped elites at a later stage - probably Stormtrooper or Veterans. The sergeant is the one with a bolter (made from a spare flamer) and chainsword.

The guy with the banner pole is actually the unit Vox operator - styled after a Roman signum with an Aquila at the top (an acceptable deviation from the Medieval theme given the prevalence of such Imperial Roman iconography in the 40K Imperiumme). I figure as well as receiving and broadcasting orders between units, it also acts as a loudspeaker and a unit standard, providing a visual and audio focal point for the unit to rally round, and also pumping out motivation and inspiration for the troops (commands, hymns, prayers, propaganda). Naturally if the signifier falls, another soldier will pick up the signum, as it is a blessed and holy relic of the Imperiumme.

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Special weapons include a grenadier and flamer so far, might do a plasma and melta at some point. Missile launcher doubles as an old-school shoulder-mounted Lascannon via a magnetic lascannon muzzle which slots into the barrel.

Autocannon has a shortened barrel and muzzle break to make it look more man-portable; it's about the same size as the heavy bolters as I make them (with a slightly extended barrel shroud).

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Mortar and autocannon are interchangeable on the base,, as are crew members. Have a heavy bolter in the works too (the bolter gunner is the chap lying prone - though the bolter can also be used with the autocannon gunner and tripod).

Still tons of work to do on these guys with lots of little details planned.

Lastly, I thought I would show my first ever Space Marine WIP. I picked up a box of the easy-to-build Reivers to use as test models. These will be my regular, true-scaled tactical and assault marines with the legs slightly puttied (to avoid the cut-off jeans and crocs look) - I prefer their overall more sleek armour design to the traditional Astartes with bulky lower legs.

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My homebrew chapter is similar to the Marines Errant (and similar in some respects to the Red Corsairs), being a chapter focused on traditional naval marine practices of ship-to-ship boarding, and ship-to-surface assault. As a result, it'll have a higher proportion of assault marines and terminators. I didn't want to do Marines Errant as their paint scheme doesn't suit me.

With this chapter, I have in mind a fun but as-yet very un-developed idea that they uniquely have some kind of order from the Inqusition or Administratum to act rather like 16th century Privateers and raid enemy shipping while roving freely across the Galaxy (and perhaps sacking enemy stronghold planets). Ships, their Captains, and the troops under their command, would have a greater degree of autonomy than those found in other chapters, but would still come together when times call on a larger force.

Incidentally, I need to decide on a colour scheme, so thought I would turn to the good people of the Bunker! I've narrowed it down to Thunderhawk Blue with black shoulderpads, Thunderhawk Blue with grey shoulderpads, Sand/Bone with Thunderhawk Blue shoulderpads, or Grey with Thunderhawk Blue shoulderpads. I'm leaning towards one of the first two, although am a bit worried it may look a bit Sons of Horus or Alpha Legion.

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Anyway, if you made it this far thanks for reading this essay! And thanks to anyone who comments on the Space Marine colour scheme.
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These are brilliant, the mix of bits is very clever! I quite like the Skitarii helms but I can see the point of making them just for a more techy/elite unit. The vox/standard is an amazing idea, makes sense that they'd look to it for moral strength and orders at the same time! Although I guess that'd make it even more of a target to the enemy... maybe part of the fluff could be that they argue before battle over which Guardsman gets the 'honour' of carrying it? :D

I'm not 100% on the Reiver legs, but they do look much better filled in. Does his head need to be sunk further into the breastplate, or is that just where it's bluetacked in at the mo?

Colour schemes all look pretty good to me, think 2 and 3 are probably my favs, and I'd definitely go with the golden yellow sun as it would pop a lot more?

Great stuff anyway, looking forward to more!
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I liked that GW brought out that section on variant IG armies using kit bashing. I wish that they would maybe do some sprues of heads, weapons and stuff to convert guys to funky, medieval/Renaissance/Victorian variations. Your squad is looking great.

Reivers as Marines is a neat bit of lateral thinking. Are you going to use Primaris or Gravis as Terminators too?

I like those dark/military/naval style uniforms. I think that the first one says, "The dark void of outer space" most clearly to me; especially if coupled with the first yellow sun symbol to compliment the Thunderhawk Blue.
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@Lysimachus: Thanks man. Yeah the head is just tacked on as a placeholder, it'll be seated properly when I glue it in. I'm not sure at this point if I'm going to go with an unarmoured head or source some helmeted ones, thinking a mixture of Beakies, regular MKVII's and perhaps some of the new Primaris helmets as MKIV's.

@euansmith: I liked that too, although noted that the combination of bits they present would be very expensive! I agree, I wish they would sell more upgrade packs and bits packs, I am old enough to remember when you could order individual guns and bits in the Citadel Catalogs! Those were the days.

I do also think they've gone very Steampunk across the board at GW and including those Guard ideas. Nothing wrong with that, and it certainly has its place, but I hope we don't see a wholesale shift away from the medieval aspect that has always made GW and 40k what it is, for me at least.

Spot on, I'm going to grab a pack of easy-to-build Primaris Aggressors to make into Terminators. Here is a mock-up I made and a picture I found on Reddit.

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One you've got a Crux Terminatus shoulder pad on those gravis guys, I'm sure they'll read as Terminators.
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I looked at the pictures first and thought the sand colour was a light metallic bronze with Thunder Hawk blue shoulders. But I think the sand bone colour scheme is definitely best. You should try painting it on an old mini marine.

Good idea on using the aggressor to make terminators. I really hope primaris get actual terminators somewhere down the line.
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Ooh I like the Aggressor-terminators. Will suit Primaris-Truesale quite nicely :)
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Excellent updates all around! I definitely hear you about thinking about half a dozen warbands at the same time -- it feels as though I have about a dozen unrealised INQ28 warband concepts in my head at any given moment... ;)

The grimdark Guard models are looking very promising -- "Think War of The Roses meets WW1. With lasers" sounds like a perfect elevator pitch to me ;)

You've probably looked at Weirdingway's Navigators already, but if not, I think you should: His household guard has an eclectic and medieval look that seems like a great inspirational piece for your project.

Using Aggressors as true scale Terminators sounds like a genius idea! I don't know whether or not this helps, but the plastic Tartaros Terminators have the classic "cowling" above the head as a separate piece -- maybe that would be the easiest way of grafting it onto the aggressor armour for the legitimate Terminator look?!

Keep up the excellent work! :)
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Hello folks! Been a while as the usual slew of real-world distractions has kept me busy.

First up, something wasn't sitting quite right for me with the Imperial Guard. The concept was sound, as were some of the bits, but the aesthetic just wasn't High Medieval enough for me.

So I went back to the drawing board a bit, broke out the Empire Archer kit and some blue tack, and after much experimentation have now started to reassemble the squad with glue and putty with this new, I hope you'll agree, much-improved style. I am a bit sorry to ditch the breastplates and tassets in place of a studs on a jacket for an implied jack-of-plates, but perhaps something more substantial will make its way onto the Veterans or other elites.

For now, as I haven't had masses of time to spend hobbying, here are the main concept model that started it all - the trudging, axe-weilding "trench raider" - and the Vox-Signifier. Both nearly ready for paint, but a few more tweaks yet.

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I've made a lot more progress on my Space Marine Assault squad Brother-Sergeant who is now ready for paint, haven't thought of a name for him yet. The other two Marines are getting there but need a bit more work.

I tried to make the pistol look like an old-school, heavy, navy-pattern sort of deal, while the chainsword I wanted to look like a naval officer's sword with the knuckle bow. I also replaced the empty pistol holster with an Empire Pistolier one - this is actually tied to one of the main inspirations for my dive into Space Marines, which was Kolti's Red Corsairs, in particular the one he made with a flintlock Empire Pistol in a holster; that sent me on a tangent thinking about Loyalist equivalents of literal Space Marines with old-school Navy leanings.

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The head and backpack are magnetised.

In terms of colour scheme, I've done some very rough tests models for the bone/sand and thunderhawk blue schemes with some spare Grey Knight bits...

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As I usually do with flat colours, I tried to add a bit more depth with washes of different colours but it shows up a bit more on the bone (orange and brown washes) than on the blue (red and purple washes), both have been drybrushed with mixes of the base colour and light grey/white.

I'm really torn as I kind of like both!

I decided to drop the third silver metal option.

Appreciate any comments/thoughts/feedback as always! :)
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Those two might just be the best and most 40k Imperial Guard I've seen. Absolutely love them :)
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Thanks Ynneadwraith, high praise indeed!

So it's been a while since I posted, I've had a lot of real life distractions, and when I have had hobby time I've tended to take the attitude of knuckling down and show stuff when it's done.

Must admit also have been spending more time posting on Instagram as it is so much easier, I do wonder how old-school forums are going to adapt to keep up, but I hope they do as I still enjoy the medium.

Anyway, I have been focusing on the Guard portion of my project.

Here are the results so far - 7 members of 1st Squad, 1st Platoon, Delta Company, Tethannic CIV [109th] Infantry Regiment.

Part of 1st Battalion of the 21st Tethannic Wych-Finder Crusade Battlegroup en route to the Thorn Moons from their home planet Tethannis Capuli.

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