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Ordo Scriptorum
Topic Started: 24 Feb 2016, 09:44 PM (1,238 Views)
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Below are my thoughts on the Ordo Scriptorum and the background I am working to. I disliked some of the minor ordos that showed up in Codex Inquisition. This is due to some being better suited to the the realm of philosophies within the ordos rather than full blown entities.....hence the Subjugation of the Ordo Scriptus (that I liked) and the destruction of the Ordos Redactus and Originatus (not so much).


Ordo Scriptorum
The main task of the Ordo Scriptorum is to find errors and failures within Adeptus Administratum and Adeptus Astra Telepathica. The Ordo examines and investigates the communications and record keeping of the Imperium. Since its inception it has branched out and subsumed the roles and responsibilities of Ordo Scriptus, preserving the official historical records of the Imperium too. The Ordo Scriptorum maintains and scrutinises the record keeping of the entire Imperium from the present and going back to its inception, prior to the Horus Heresy and the Great Crusade. For millennia the Ordo Scriptorum has been based solely on Terra but factions within it have begun moving resources off the Throne World; they feel a presence in Sectors throughout the wider Imperium would reduce the error rate and the time it takes to discover and rectify mistakes. Plus being able to proportionate blame in person is seen as a good deterrent to scribes of the Adeptus Administatum.

Some find is surprising how well armed and militant Ordo Scriptorum Inquisitors can be. But the Ordo Scriptorm often finds itself acting within the remit of the Ordo Hereticus upon bureaucults and the fallen within the Adeptus Administratum. Plus the philosophical wars with the Ordo Scriptorum mean that its members are often required to bear arms for protection.

The current head of the Ordo Scriptorum is Inquisitor Lord Ker-slate, though it is rumoured he will soon be stepping down and handing the mantle to Inquisitor Heyward, whose principles have seen the expansion of the Ordo Scriptorum outside of Terra.

The subjugation of the Ordo Scriptus
Through politicking and intestine wars, within the Inquisition, the Ordo Scriptus orchestrated its own subjugation by the Ordo Scriptorum. The few members of the Ordo Scriptus realised that it needed a larger power base to support its ideals and holy task of preserving the official history of the Imperium. They also decided that their work and that of the Ordo Scriptorum often paralleled each other when delving though official documentation. The Ordo Scriptus were also liable to be destroyed by the warring Ordos of Originatus and Redactus. Through years of manipulation and assassination the Ordo Scriptus destroyed the Ordo Originatus and Redactus; though the shadow of these two organisations now hangs in the dark recesses of the Ordo Scriptorum, and other Ordos, as radical factions. For the moderate Inquisitors understand that there is a fine line between what should be kept and what should be lost when it comes to the sordid history of the Inquisition.



Stefan (Krautscientist) in his tribute to Wayne England found a wonderful image I'd not seen before. To me this is a true Ordo Scriptorum Inquisitor and I really want to recreate it as a model at some point.

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Edited by PDH, 24 Feb 2016, 09:45 PM.
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# El Diablo
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Hmm, the Chaos Sorcerer would be a good start if only for the lower robed portion to keep the very tall look from the picture.
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commissarmoody
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Looking forward to seeing where you go with this.
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Nuclearhawke
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I really like the premise of this faction, though for some reason I can't shake the image of their rosette being the annoying little paperclip guy from MS Office.

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I disliked some of the minor ordos that showed up in Codex Inquisition. This is due to some being better suited to the the realm of philosophies within the ordos rather than full blown entities...
I'd entirely agree. Some ranting follows...

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As far as the Scriptorum specifically, I like your take (and will be including it in my own headcanon). It makes a lot more sense than the original version of things, and the broader remit allows more freedom in philosophies.

I'd been playing with the anti-information concept for some time prior to Codex:Inquisition with my own Ordo Perditus, inspired by The Operative from Serenity, and his line: "Secrets are not my concern. Keeping them is". After all, in the wrong hands, knowledge can be very dangerous.
Since Codex:Inquisition, I have occasional thoughts about tweaking my background to hint that the Perditus was actually a local variant to one of these factions (I don't want to abandon what is quite a lot of fluff by entirely retconning characters into one of the new Ordos), but I found the whole thing to be too much of a mess... no one specific faction was quite what I had in mind.

However, I'm now very tempted to steal from your version of things and tweak things based on that. I could certainly see that in certain regions (specifically, the western Pacificus), a similar combining of related factions might have played out in a slightly different way, leading the Perditus to be a locally dominant variant of the Scriptorum.

(Also, yes, I like that Wayne England piece too. I may be completely wrong, but it seems familiar enough that I suspect it may be one of the pieces in the 3rd Edition rulebook).
Edited by MarcoSkoll, 26 Feb 2016, 03:04 AM.
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El-D - Aye. I was thinking the sorcerer legs but I'm not thinking Genestealer Magos. Either way its not a project for the time being.

Commissarmoody - I think the next stage is going to be introducing the Chamber Militant.

NuclearHawke - I've not thought about Clippy for yonks. He was an annoying little dick. I'm now going to have to draw the symbol. Don't get to excited I really cannot draw.

Marco - Thanks. You liking my take and inducting it into your headcanon is very much a compliment. I agree with your rant almost entirely. I like the Ordo Machinum though. As I read it more as a group investigating the existence of STC's and the Mechanicus actually sharing this knowledge for the betterment of the Imperium rather than just hoarding it. AS opposed to checking for tech heresy etc.
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First of all, cheers for the shout out ;)

Your ideas are really rather cool and manage to tie influences from several sources together into a somewhat more coherent and interesting whole -- I especially like the idea of the former Ordo having itself subsumed into a new structure through an engineered internecine conflict. This seems especially fitting since the fabrication and dissemination of reality through information and rumours seems to be very much a part of the Order's remit ;)

As for the Wayne England art, I believe I came upon it on the internet a while ago, and it's really one of his best, most poignant illustrations of an Imperial character, as far as I am concerned. I've been thinking about building him myself, so don't take too long, or I might beat you to it ;) A possible idea for a recipe goes like this:

- legs: Chaos Sorcerer, as pointed out by ElDiablo
- torso: from the new Genestealer cultists (not the Magus, but from one of the 4th generation hybrids, for instance)
- the walking stick from the Tech-Priest Dominus (come to think of it, both "primary" arms from that kit might be a good fit for the conversion.
- the servitor head from that one Space Marine flyer (Storm Talon...? I keep confusing the names)
- lots and lots of books and scrolls from the Empire flagellants.

EDIT: Whew, so for some reason, the combination of Peter's background for the new Ordo and that Wayne England illustration seem to have lit a fire under me, and so I've gone and started building my version of that character. Still a super-early version that will need tons of detail -- I just wanted to see whether I could make the overall silhouette work, and I do think the result so far warrants some additional experimentation:

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I agree with your rant almost entirely. I like the Ordo Machinum though.
I do think that the Inquisition could and should police the Mechanicus and technology in various ways, and that it's an area which could call for specialist skills and equipment, but I still think that having an Ordo for it sounds like a recipe for a massive political incident.

For an example, imagine a modern intelligence service. They'll have official wings dedicated to cyber-terrorism, airline security, monitoring security breaches within the armed forces and the like, but the Ordo Machinium is quite a lot like MI6 setting up an anti-France division. Yes, British Intelligence do monitor the French, and the French know that (and do the same in return), but the fact it's handled with bit more decorum than "Ordo France" is important for diplomatic relations.
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# Commissar Molotov
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I like the look of the head from the new Iron Hand in the Deathwatch boxed set. He'd make a good choice for the Scriptorum Inquisitor.

I think the Merusians I created previously could be Scriptorum Inquisitors!
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I don't want to derail this thread (too much), so only a short update on the model:

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More pictures can be found in my INQ28 thread, in case anyone's interested.
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Hello all. A very slight addition to the background and the introduction of the chamber militant. Plus the killing off of Krauty's Inquisitor...don't worry though he's alive in Krauty's time period a couple of millennia ago.

Ordo Scriptorum

The main task of the Ordo Scriptorum is to find errors and failures within Adeptus Administratum and Adeptus Astra Telepathica. The Ordo examines and investigates the communications and record keeping of the Imperium. Since its inception it has branched out and subsumed the roles and responsibilities of Ordo Scriptus, preserving the official historical records of the Imperium too. The Ordo Scriptorum maintains and scrutinises the record keeping of the entire Imperium from the present and going back to its inception, prior to the Horus Heresy and the Great Crusade. For millennia the Ordo Scriptorum has been based solely on Terra but factions within it have begun moving resources off the Throne World; they feel a presence in Sectors throughout the wider Imperium would reduce the error rate and the time it takes to discover and rectify mistakes. Plus being able to proportionate blame in person is seen as a good deterrent to scribes of the Adeptus Administatum.

Some find is surprising how well armed and militant Ordo Scriptorum Inquisitors can be. But the Ordo Scriptorm often finds itself acting within the remit of the Ordo Hereticus upon bureaucults and the fallen within the Adeptus Administratum. Plus the philosophical wars with the Ordo Scriptorum mean that its members are often required to bear arms for protection.

The current head of the Ordo Scriptorum is Inquisitor Lord Ker-slate, though it is rumoured he will soon be stepping down and handing the mantle to Inquisitor Heyward, whose principles have seen the expansion of the Ordo Scriptorum outside of Terra, following the Orlanthian philosophy.

The subjugation of the Ordo Scriptus

Through politicking and intestine wars, within the Inquisition, the Ordo Scriptus orchestrated its own subjugation by the Ordo Scriptorum. The few members of the Ordo Scriptus realised that it needed a larger power base to support its ideals and holy task of preserving the official history of the Imperium. They also decided that their work and that of the Ordo Scriptorum often paralleled each other when delving though official documentation. The Ordo Scriptus were also liable to be destroyed by the warring Ordos of Originatus and Redactus. Through years of manipulation and assassination the Ordo Scriptus destroyed the Ordo Originatus and Redactus; though the shadow of these two organisations now hangs in the dark recesses of the Ordo Scriptorum, and other Ordos, as radical factions. For the moderate Inquisitors understand that there is a fine line between what should be kept and what should be lost when it comes to the sordid history of the Inquisition.


Chamber Militant of the Ordo Scriptorum

The Librarians of the 14th Order are the chamber militant of the Ordo Scriptorum and are solely based on Terra. Unlike other chamber militants the Librarians do not engage in open warfare but are a guardian force protecting the Ordo Scriptorum’s property, scribes and Inquisitors from civil unrest and aggressive bureaucults, not wanting to be parted from their precious data stacks. When the Ordo send out Archaeogian investigators the Librarians are attached to protect the assembly from heretical tomes and corrupt data stacks, for Terra is an ancient place full of the profane and long forgotten data reformatories.

The Librarians are a small force and recruited solely from the Astra Militarum regiments and PDF forces present in the Sol System. The recruits are chosen by the Ordo Scriptorum for showing signs of learnedness. It is often remarked the Librarians would have been better placed in the Administratum or the Departmento Munitorum rather than trained for combat. Though once recruited the Librarians enter into the advanced combat training of an Inquisitorial Storm Trooper as well as undergoing extensive academic tutoring. Those who fail the training, if they survive, are sent back to their original regiment and often rise to the position of trusted adjutant.

Indentured Bureaucultists

Bureucultist slave labour of the Ordo Scriptorum. These workers are indentured by the threat of redaction and the deletion of generations worth of bilbliocatherdra, data vaults and knowledge. While these repositories are often worthless to the Imperium the threat binds the cultists to the Ordo Scriptorum, making for the most loyal of slaves.

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Inqusitor Lord Tiberias Orlanth (missing presumed dead, last known location Velsen Sector)

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Apologies to Marco and Mol, for taking six month to reply.

Marco -Re Machinum. Again I think its goes back to how you view their mandate. As I understand it The Lords Dragon check and monitor for tech heresy (doing a similar internal role as an Inquisitor). Perhaps the Ordo Machinum have put their name out there is simply to make the Mechanicus think twice before they hoard their knowledge and not follow the accords set down millennia ago. Most high ranking people know the Inquisition exists and high ranking Tech Priests must know of its existence too, so using Martian logic the Mechanicus must have realised they were under scrutiny.

Mol - As you know I love the Merusians philosophy. I like the idea that it started in the Ordo Scriptorum, maybe you could write it in and update your text? By the way did I tell you my Ordo Malleus Inquisitor (still unbuilt but who has three members in his warband) is a practitioner of Merusian investigative techniques

For those who don't know the Merusian philosophy please see below....all words by Commissar Molotov.

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Edited by PDH, 24 Jul 2016, 07:25 AM.
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