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| Competitions - what do YOU want to see? | |
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| Topic Started: 13 Mar 2012, 08:17 PM (1,760 Views) | |
| # El Diablo | 10 Apr 2012, 09:42 PM Post #61 |
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We (the Mod Team) are looking to have something sorted by the weekend - currently there are too many plates spinning for us to make a call on it now without due consideration from all of the Mods. Sit tight, we'll have something soon. Until then, why not go and post something in your plogs to get a bit of practise in? |
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| ☺Doghouse | 11 Apr 2012, 09:37 AM Post #62 |
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Really?  I think this is a bad idea to be honest and find the tone extremely negative. Competitions used to be a way of getting board members involved in the community, all this talk of judging panels and if you're not good enough tough is not the direction to take in my opinion. That attitude won't encourage people to improve. Edited by Doghouse, 11 Apr 2012, 10:51 AM.
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| Keravin | 11 Apr 2012, 10:02 AM Post #63 |
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I'm not certain how the current setup encourages people to improve. In my mind the Masterclasses do a lot more because there is actual feedback. |
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| # KayvaanShrike | 11 Apr 2012, 10:03 AM Post #64 |
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But improvement is part of the hobby Doghouse. While the way Ricky put it there was a very honest and blunt way, the idea is rooted in truth. Do you not seek to improve your painting/modelling each time you paint something? Or do you paint something and say to yourself "that's good, but I could do better. But I am not going to bother". Personally I always strive to paint something to the best of my ability, and that ability has improved dramatically over the years. Ricky does hit the nail on the head there, a competition is about being the best (in simple terms). If someone wins a competition with a model that is not as well painted as another, what's the point? You enter a painting competition in the hope your model is judged the best there. I also think that perhaps a judging panel is a good thing. Yes it would need to be anonymously selected, and the members rotated regularly, but it should work. Most painting comps have a panel of judges, why not here? Its not like Golden Daemon is judged by everyone going to GD is it, its a select few people. |
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| # Digits | 11 Apr 2012, 10:14 AM Post #65 |
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However, it should not be so elitist that it puts people off joining in because they wont get votes. In all honesty I'm all for helping improvement in painting and modelling, but this is also meant to be about having FUN! I like the quirkyness that allows anyone the ability to win. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder and all that...... As Steve already said, we are now coming to a decision in Mods about the next step. |
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| ☺Doghouse | 11 Apr 2012, 10:22 AM Post #66 |
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I do get the improvement thing and I mean absolutely no disrespect to anti-pope in any way shape or form because I genuinely like the bloke and respect his renewed passion for this place. But you have to be careful with stuff like this because it reeks of elitism and once that attitude sets into a forum it'll eat away at the place before all you have a core of old timers rattling on about how it was when people used to post here. I think competitions are great and I'm over the moon to see someone tackling them so passionately because that kind of enthusiasm is infectious, all I'm saying is tread carefully with all this talk of only accepting the best and creation of judging panels. 
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| # KayvaanShrike | 11 Apr 2012, 10:42 AM Post #67 |
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I didn't mean to suggest that the comps here should become elitist like Golden Daemon or the like, not at all. I am with Digits, the comps here are meant to be fun first and foremost, as well as being a platform for people to force themselves to improve. I personally also think that one issue with the competitions is not the theme, nor whether your models fit into a theme, nor the painting to a deadline. But the lack of participants probably stems from the fact that not that many people will have the parts, or models sitting around free to paint up just for a competition. I know I don't, all the models I have are destined for a place in an army, so I am reluctant to take one model out of that to convert and paint up to fit a competition theme. Nor do I have the cash to go out and buy a single model just for a comp. I think that is first and foremost the biggest issue behind the lack of participants in the comps. |
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| Keravin | 11 Apr 2012, 11:04 AM Post #68 |
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Well it's been suggested having a planned schedule of events would help alleviate that so people can look and gather stuff together rather than having to be around at the right time to start. |
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| # the_great_gonzo | 11 Apr 2012, 11:07 AM Post #69 |
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A clever bloke said that I bet Keravin. |
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| Brother Vogt | 11 Apr 2012, 11:09 AM Post #70 |
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I personally havent entered a number of competitions precisely because I dont have a lot of spare bits to use on something specifically for a compo. But I do like the themed competitions that we have had here on the AB. I personally dont really like the idea of the competitions going down the road of more of a strictly painting competition. Whilst I do like the idea of pushing my painting to the next level I dont think that it would ever be to the stage of providing any sort of competition for the more techinically excellent painters out there, of whom there are many! Ingenuity and doing something a bit different have always been applauded and appreciated by the community and sometimes a one off piece can be an excellent place to do this. Which is why the idea of themed competitions can spur someone on to try something new as opposed to a straigth out best painted compo. I do like the idea of bi monthly competitions though, simply as it can give peopel more time to work on their entry. Just my 2 cents. |
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| Keravin | 11 Apr 2012, 11:25 AM Post #71 |
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What? Around here? 
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| # the_great_gonzo | 11 Apr 2012, 11:43 AM Post #72 |
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This is the exact thing we want to push through the Comp system. Fun. Yet pushing yourself to create the best you can with the talent/ability/resources you have available. |
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| ☺highmarshaldave | 11 Apr 2012, 08:26 PM Post #73 |
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Hey, I resemble that remark I must say I agree with the general consensuses. . . consensii. . . whatever, point is I'm loving the buzz that seems to have developed around this. Its great!!! |
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| ☺The Antipope | 12 Apr 2012, 10:29 AM Post #74 |
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I did put it across in a blunt way, I admit. I'm not talking about elitism though, at least not in the sense of 'popular' posters getting votes... But still there's the word 'competition' there. A contest. Let the pics, let the mini's do the talking. In that sense a panel of impartial judges would be a boon. Right now, for example (actually I'm sure it's happened before) it's possible to get your mates in to rig it for you with votes and on the same note, some, not naming anyone at all, I really promise, but some could ignore an entry because they don't like the poster... Project Log's are a way to get people involved, group bash tables, forum showcase work... all that. But a competition is a competition. People try their best to beat each other and considering the high class work of many, many posters within this community that's gonna be hard for anybody... I told you, I know I can turn out a good mini, but I am in no way confident I can win if the people of the community pull their finger out. Blunt maybe, but I don't think it's negative to say people have to compete in a competition. the best wins, the mediocre doesn't. I'm actually looking at it in an incredibly positive light. Imagine if we had 10 entries to the first one. In a perfect world people look at 10 class entries and say, you know, I'm gonna pull out all the stops, I've been painting for a long time and I can do it. So the next month it would grow and then potentially grow again and again. Then even those who are the 'best' painters will be pushed into doing even better things. What you would have then, month on month is a showcase for this forum that would show the world what a creative and talented bunch of individuals we are. If I had 10 hands I still couldn't use all the fingers to count the talent on this forum. Done right, done with care, this could be amazing. Edited by The Antipope, 12 Apr 2012, 02:22 PM.
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| # Digits | 12 Apr 2012, 10:28 PM Post #75 |
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Right guys - we've listned to and debated the various things that have come up here and elsewhere and put what we believe to be the most common ground forward, May's new compo is open, and hopefully, we shall see you all there. Lots of prizes up for grabs, will suit you whether you are a modeller OR a painter OR both! Is W I D E open to interpretation so no worries about niche compos and the promise of lots of competition! Further more we've listed the next few months compos too so nice and easy to plan forward. Time to put your brushes and scalpels to business fellas! http://s3.zetaboards.com/The_Ammobunker/topic/7564808/1/#new Edited by Digits, 12 Apr 2012, 10:34 PM.
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