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Angels of Death; And darkness, and doom, and...
Topic Started: 14 Apr 2011, 12:23 PM (540 Views)
Liquid-Joshi
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So, as I mentioned earlier in the "what did you learn today" thread, I m interested in starting Deathwing. If all goes to plan I may (May) create a plog/log/whatever they're called these days. However, aside from Terminators and the DA codex as suggested earlier, I am at a loss as to what I should get. This is where you come in, fellow Bunkerites. Where should I start? What's good for 1000 points? Should I bother with a LR?

I thank you in advance.
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# El Diablo
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1000 pts of Deathwing will be quite a small force, probably no more than 3 squads, Belial and a vehicle.

I'd suggest something akin to this -

Belial (TH/SS)
Terminator Squad (Apothecary, 4x TH/SS, Cyclone Missile Launcher)
Terminator Squad (5x TH/SS, Cyclone Missile Launcher)
Terminator Squad (5x TH/SS, Cyclone Missile Launcher)
Terminator Librarian (Combi Melta)

1015pts.

If you wanted to get a vehicle in, drop the Librarian and get a Dreadnought in, adds a bit of anti tank.

It's a list based around deep strike as you'll always get 2 units down on your first turn. Having everyone with a Thunder Hammer and Storm Shield makes use of the fact that with the recent FAQ, Dark Angels now get the usual 3+ Inv save from the shield rather than the old 4+. Similar with the Cyclone Missile Launchers, your always firing 2 shots out to 48" on the move which is huge when you've got stuff that you need dead at range.
Edited by El Diablo, 14 Apr 2011, 12:42 PM.
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I'll probably take the Dreadnought over the Librarian, they arn't too useful from what I've heard, and I'll need the anti tank. Worth putting it into a drop pod?
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# El Diablo
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If your going to 1000pts you won't have the points for a pod, spare points being the problem for Deathwing armies. If you take it to 1500 for example, you'll have room to add another squad and a land raider to the above list.
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Well 1000 points is a starting point, I can always expand into 1500+ points.
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# El Diablo
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With the first 1000 pts you could drop the Librarian for a Lascannon dread without problems.
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# dean
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The NEW Deathwing Mantra:
CONCENTRATE your fire!
Assault on YOUR terms!
BELIEVE in the God-Emperor!


There is a large debate on shooty vs choppy in the Deathwing Tactica on Warseer. I personally have played both and Choppy needs to be a mechanized force... Even with the new SS rules I dont think El D's list will be that effective as you cant get to grips with your opponent soon enough to do enough damage to win...

The current thinking goes:
Belial with LCs to capitalize on his Initiative or SB/SOS

Shooty squads have a heavy weapon of your choice and at least 1 Chainfist for Anti Tank.

Choppy squads are usually LCs with a heavy weap and Chainfist, Maybe one TH/SS.

Dread to fill points

LRCs are superior to LRs

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El Diablo
14 Apr 2011, 03:03 PM
With the first 1000 pts you could drop the Librarian for a Lascannon dread without problems.
Is the current plan.

As for the shooty vs choppy debate, at a glance, I wouldn't have thought that small a model count could put out enough firepower to be very effective - especially when the Leman Russes start hitting the table...
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# El Diablo
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Listen to Dean. He knows.
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# dean
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14 Apr 2011, 05:51 PM
Listen to Dean. He knows.
:$ I dont know about that...

You will be suprised at what a squad with storm bolters and an assault cannon can kill.. Of course all three squads on one side of the enemies line can destroy that corner.

The only things I am afraid of are Stealers (cant kill them all) and a Death Star squad of TH/SS with Calgar.
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14 Apr 2011, 05:51 PM
Listen to Dean. He knows.
Aye, I had no doubt of that. I'm likely to go down the shooty route anyway as I already have some shooty Terminators.
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14 Apr 2011, 06:23 PM
El Diablo
14 Apr 2011, 05:51 PM
Listen to Dean. He knows.
Aye, I had no doubt of that. I'm likely to go down the shooty route anyway as I already have some shooty Terminators.
Could of been an idea to say you had shooty terminators in the first instance. ^o)

I would of been able to tailor any help in that direction.
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El Diablo
14 Apr 2011, 06:26 PM
Could of been an idea to say you had shooty terminators in the first instance. ^o)

I would of been able to tailor any help in that direction.
:P It's still all about your own playstyle and what you like to do.... I prefer Footslog/shooty cause a stormbolters move 6" and still shoot 24" can cover a lot of ground... (That and I always seem to charge the other army's HtH monsters with my Mech/Assaulty list)
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Tried a couple of games today and found that hitty Terminators seem to be far more effective than shooty Terminators. Will hopefully be able to pick up a codex tomorrow.

UPDATE: Ordered a codex from Amazon, but it isn't due for a few days, I will post some progress when it arrives.
Edited by Liquid-Joshi, 18 Apr 2011, 11:15 AM.
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