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| Bravo Company, 2nd Mech. Battalion (IG list); now with 2nd list. | |
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| Tweet Topic Started: 22 Sep 2010, 07:06 PM (608 Views) | |
| Lucius von Kalteisen | 22 Sep 2010, 07:06 PM Post #1 |
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Hi all. Aiming to 2000 point list but still lacking some, around 300 points short. Been thinking of adding two Hydras (should order those from FW) and Salamander Command (of my own making/conversion). Oh, by the way, only Chimera-hull based vehicles allowed in this list, but then again, I have contemplated adding a five man Rough Rider squad (on SM scout bikes). And commissars are there for fluffy reasons, but maybe they can be ejected to save points for better use, if something is suggested. Tips, comments, ideas etc more than welcome, it's been quite a while since I played the game. *** Bravo Company, 2nd Mechanised Battalion, 27th Calvarian Combined Arms Regiment Headquarters Company Command Squad /0-2/ (227pts): Company Commander with Boltgun Veteran with Vox-caster Veteran with Sniper rifle Veteran Weapons team with Autocannon 2x Bodyguard Master of Ordnance Chimera with 2x Heavy bolters, Hunter-killer missile, Camo netting, Heavy Stubber Troops Infantry Platoon (603pts) Platoon Command Squad /2-1-0/ Platoon Commander with Boltgun Commissar with Bolt pistol Guardsman with Vox-caster Guardsman with Grenade launcher Weapons team with Missile launcher Chimera with 2x Heavy bolters, Hunter-killer missile, Camo netting, Heavy stubber Infantry Squad /2-1-1/ Sergeant with Bolt pistol Commissar Guardsman with Vox-caster Guardsman with Grenade launcher Weapons team with Missile launcher Chimera with 2x Heavy bolters, Hunter-killer missile, Camo netting, Heavy stubber Infantry Squad /2-1-2/ Sergeant with Bolt pistol Commissar Guardsman with Vox-caster Guardsman with Grenade launcher Weapons team with Missile launcher Chimera with 2x Heavy bolters, Hunter-killer missile, Camo netting, Heavy stubber Troops Veteran Squad /2-2-1/ (210pts): Veteran Sergeant with Plasma pistol Veteran with Vox-caster Veteran with Heavy Flamer Veteran with Meltagun Veteran with Meltagun Demolitions doctrine Chimera with Heavy Bolter, Heavy Flamer Troops Veteran Squad /2-3-1/ (210pts): Veteran Sergeant with Plasma pistol Veteran with Vox-caster Veteran with Heavy Flamer Veteran with Meltagun Veteran with Meltagun Demolitions doctrine Chimera with Heavy Bolter, Heavy Flamer Fast Attack Hellhound Squadron /2-4-1/ (140pts) Devil Dog with Multi-melta, Smoke launchers Heavy Support Manticore Rocket Launcher /2-5/ (160pts) Heavy Support Manticore Rocket Launcher /2-6/ (160pts) |
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| Lucius von Kalteisen | 24 Sep 2010, 06:55 AM Post #2 |
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So question is mainly, do I have enough troops? Thinking of grabbing objectives and such. Veteran squads and Devil dog would be the ones doing the charging part where as the infantry platoon and Company command would be forming the firing line with the additional "firepower" from Chimeras (heavy bolters and hunter-killer missiles). Manticores wouild be doing the obvious long-distance pounding of opposition. Should I add Salamander Scout (Fast Attack choice) rather than Salamander command? Hydras would offer anti-air and nice "crowd-control" firepower as well. Also another Devil Dog would not harm either, right? Cheers, LvK |
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| # Digits | 24 Sep 2010, 07:52 PM Post #3 |
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Troop list looks good - much as I would have it. I just worry a little long range anti tank is missing, though to be fair, manticores are awsome in that role. Devildog or hellhound - both useful. Me, I'd chuck in an engineers Demolisher as support - awsome tank. |
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| Lucius von Kalteisen | 25 Sep 2010, 06:05 PM Post #4 |
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Thanks for reply and comments Digits. Still one question regarding the troops and especially the veterans. Should the normal vets be all armed with shotguns? And while we are at it, the commissars, do they need beefing up with any force weapons or power fists etc? Then about Demolisher... I should make a count-as-conversion with Chimera-chassis so it would fit in, so to speak. Anything else to replace it or to take instead of it? * * * Some fluff, unit organisation of Calvarian 27th regiment first. CALVARIAN 27th COMBINED ARMS REGIMENT “Kotkapojad” i) REGIMENTAL HQ COMPANY * Regimental commander: Colonel Lucius von Kalteisen *Regimental commissar: Commissar-Captain ii) 1st LIGHT BATTALION “Equestris” - 1st BN HQ Platoon * BN Commander: Lieutenant Colonel Adolfus Ehrnrooth - 1st Scout Company * CO Commander: Captain Marcus Stålhandske - 2nd Jaeger Company * CO Commander: Captain Augustus Wihma iii) 2nd MECHANISED BATTALION “Ferrata” - 2nd BN HQ Platoon *BN Commander: Lieutenant Colonel Nebur Lagus - 1st Armoured Company * CO Commander: Captain Ilarius Nixaria - 2nd Armoured Fist Company * CO Commander: Captain Arno Blick - 3rd Armoured Fist Company * CO Commander: Lieutenant Engelbertus Selim iv) 3rd SUPPORT BATTALION “Fulminata Adiutrix” - 3rd BN HQ Platoon * BN Commander: Captain Julius Asplund - 1st Artillery Company * CO Commander: Captain Vibius Valve - 2nd Support & Supply Company *CO Commander: Lieutenant Fredricus Airo v) 4th DETACHED AIR ASSAULT BATTALION “The Black Arrow” - BN HQ Platoon * BN Commander: Lieutenant Colonel Maximus Sovio * BN Commissar: Commissar-Captain Nestorius Siren - 1st Company * CO Commander: Captain Nicholaus Baermi - 2nd Company * CO Commander: Captain Laurentius Toerni * * * Sorry for the double post, just wanting to give you guys a breather between the texts. Still hoping for the comments, ideas, tips and critique from you lot. This time the fluff part deals with some Calvarian military customs and/or traditions. Of course, quite heavy influence is drawn from good old Romans ![]() * * * CALVARIAN MILITARY CUSTOMS: On Calvarian first names: Calvarian soldiers have the right to use classic Imperial first name if… 1) they have an active service record of 25 Terran years in their regiment. 2) they receive a promotion to the rank of Captain. 3) they receive a Distinguished Service Medal or equivalent and they are recommended by both regimental commanding officer and regimental commissar. 4) they belong to one of the noble houses of Calvarian prime, either by birth or adoption. About Calvarian military service: All Calvarian males are required to enlist at the age of 15 but only some 10% of each age group continues to active service immediately thus becoming conscripts (hastatus) and starting their training period of five years, known as tirocinium. The rest 90% are required to partake in planetary defense service (auxilia) for next 30 years. At the end of tirocinium, the conscripts will go through a festival known as armilustrium, festival of ritual cleansing of armament. This festival marks the end of their conscript status, transforming them to fully recognized soldiers (princeps). The veteran status and right to use honorary title of triarius is conferred to princeps that have served either for 15 Terran years or celebrated five campaign triumphs. Many NCOs and some elderly triarii are known by their fellow soldiers by the nickname of senex (lit. old man). All the above concerns the Calvarian Prime Sector but enlistment from Calvarian subsectors is a different matter. Whereas Calvarian Prime has couple of populous hive worlds supported by few agri-worlds, the subsectors are mainly mining and agricultural worlds. The mining worlds are mainly run by Calvarian noble houses or Calvarian judicial administration and agri-worlds operate on basis of huge latifundium (farms) that have several thousands of workers each. From these world Calvarian military has the right to handpick fresh recruits as conscripts. Many of these possible recruits pass through the hands of lanista, who deal and supply workforce to Calvarian subsectors. Many lanista run specialized fighting schools, ludus, in addition to their own mines or farms, if not dealing wholeheartedly with contraband material with infamous rogue traders. On Calvarian unit names: Calvarian units of battalion level or higher, not withstanding some special cases, are usually given special unit nicknames or titles, awarded after successive campaigns. Same titles can be awarded to several units, thus the unit numbering helps to distinguish between different units. This somewhat unclear, yet very traditional and honorable custom causes problems and grey hair to scribes and historians interested in or working with Calvarian military. One special note regarding this naming system is that only units originating from Calvarian prime sector use Imperial Classic in their names, units from subsectors can use only normal Imperial. Thus, for example, one can easily deduce that the “Black Arrow” (the 4th Detached Air Assault Battalion, 27th Calvarian Regiment) hails from Calvarian subsectors. Edited by Lucius von Kalteisen, 25 Sep 2010, 06:39 PM.
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| # Digits | 25 Sep 2010, 07:52 PM Post #5 |
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Doing a count as is fine but may be hard to pull off, in part as the way to tool up a demolisher IS to use the sponsons - that's a lot of firepower to attach to a chimera chasis. As for vets - I say yes, though I'm probably in a minority. Take shotguns - you can then assalt with them. Assault with them????!!!! Hell yes - sometimes it's necessary to chuck these guys in. The best defence is offence. Why wait to be assaulted and give them extra attacks? Besides which, shotguns are cool looking! |
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| Lucius von Kalteisen | 20 Aug 2011, 11:16 AM Post #6 |
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So with building a force that is somewhat Soviet Afganistan era themed I needed to make an army list, to keep me on right track and also motivate the build. So here's 1500pts worth of Calvarian 27th Regiment's 1st SAD (Special Assault Detachment) during their Afgatachan campaign. Like the unit name already shows, the plan is quite simply. Shout 'Uraa!" and charge the enemy. HQ Company Command Squad Commander with power fist and plasma pistol Veteran with Vox-caster Veteran with Medi-pack Veteran with Plasma gun Veteran with Heavy Flamer Nork Deddog = 255 ELITES Storm Trooper Squad Sergeant with Plasma pistol Trooper with Plasmagun Trooper with Meltagun Two additional troopers = 152 TROOPS 2 x Penal Legion Squad = 160 2 x Veteran Squad Veteran Sergeant with bolt pistol Veteran with Vox-caster Veteran with Flamer Veteran with Meltagun Veteran with Plasmagun All rest have shotguns Demolitions doctrine = 274 Veteran Squad Gunnery Sergeant Harker Veteran with Vox-caster Veteran with Flamer Veteran with Meltagun Veteran with Plasmagun All rest have shotguns Demolitions doctrine = 190 FAST ATTACK Valkyrie Assault Carrier Squadron Valkyrie with las-cannon, rocket-pods and heavy bolters Valkyrie with las-cannon, missiles and heavy bolters = 320 Vendetta Gunship with heavy bolters = 140 ==> 1491 pts Edited by Lucius von Kalteisen, 20 Aug 2011, 11:17 AM.
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| Liquid-Joshi | 26 Aug 2011, 04:50 PM Post #7 |
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Shotguns can be useful if they're riding in Chimeras or Valkyries, though I feel you may be trying to make everyone do a bit of everything with the veterans weapons loadouts. Personally I would concentrate the weapons into each squad (i.e. flamers in one squad, meltas in another) but this is entirely from a gaming efficiency veiw rather than fluff based, and is only how I run my Guard. What works for you may be different to what works for me. |
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