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Legion of the damned; enquiry
Topic Started: 28 Jan 2010, 01:58 PM (1,195 Views)
Dobbie
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I am building a Space Wolves army, Would the Legion fight with them.
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Paul
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Keravin
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LOTD are Elites on a Space Marines list. So only with difficulty would you be able to use them in a Wolves list.
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Space Marines only unit. If it not in another codex it can not be use.

Or you can do what I done, use them as Object marker (any excuse to use the new models/paint)

But again nope, can not be use in standard games since there not in the Wolves codex. It like trying to use units from the codex chaos daemons, in a codex Chaos Marine force. Only way is vs friends with permission or apoclypse games or as objct marker.
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# KayvaanShrike
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LoTD will help any Imperial Chapter I would imagine. So yeah I wouldn't see why you couldn't use them in a SW army. Although, if they are not in the Space Wolves codex, some rule nazis might not allow it.
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# dean
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The old arguement was that stand alone codexes got enough of their own troop buffs that special units werent transferable unless specifically noted (and the =I= is the only codex noted) That said, i'd play you (cause they are awesome models and I am a pushover) I'd let you include them in a Guard army too.


And this belongs in rules... I'll move it after you get some more responses...
Edited by dean, 28 Jan 2010, 02:43 PM.
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# Marovian
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I agree with whats been said, at tournaments you're likely to get a nom but if you were playing me you could use them as long as you used them with any imperial faction.
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There's hardly a shortage of Elites in the Space Wolves army though.
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That's just it Keravin, LotD are meant to be a specialist (and rather powerful) unit for vanilla Marines, an army that are solid but not overpowered. Space Wolves have got so much powerful stuff within their own list without the need for them. If it makes me a rules Nazi or not, I wouldn't play you. After all, there is a precedent set in the background for the Imperium to ally themselves with the Eldar occasionally, but that doesn't mean you can take a Phoenix Lord in an Imperial Guard army.

The lists are supposedly balanced within themselves and I think to go porting over super units from other Codexes is a bit off. Just my two penneth.
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Thanks everybody.
Think i'll still get them cos they'll make a break from paintong sw's. They look sooo Coool.
Paul
Edited by Dobbie, 28 Jan 2010, 04:32 PM.
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# dean
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Topic moved...
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☺Dave38x
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Im right with you there dobbie!
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# Captain Wolverine
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Well I have 3 not codex armies and I use sternguard , vanguard and LotD cos I play with nice people and not arse holes
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Well, I'm in a minority and I do understand that the Legion, fluffwise, are a grey area. But I don't think wanting to play a game by the rules makes a person an arsehole.
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# Captain Wolverine
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No it does not Ricky but the person is an arsehole if he is unwilling to bend them a little just for the sake of fun
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I agree. It's just not fun having your arse beat if someone puts other armies Elite choices on top of their own formidable selection of Elites. As is the case with Space Wolves. They are already pretty uber.
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# Captain Wolverine
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Not if your me and crap at the game, and get handed your arse my players almost half my age :(
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im in the same situation wolvie, except they are normally older than me :P

so i generally play it loose n easy on the rules and just have a laugh instead of being a bit of a tourney-fart (like one of my friends...)
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I'm buying them to paint and convert. I've already got way too many elites to be able to field what I want in a SW army without adding to them.
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I still think it's curious, please note that I'm not having a dig at anyone specifically here, that someone who want's to play a game whilst adhering to the rules as written is a person that deserves derision. I think that having a desire to play the game by it's rules is natural and in no way makes a person an 'arsehole' or a 'tourny-fart'. I'll give you an extreme hypothetical' example:

'Two people, setting up a game of chess. But one player decides he'd like to take four Knights and forgo his Rooks because 'he thinks "horses are cool".'

Would I let him? Would I Hell. Not in the name of fun and not in the name of Jesus Christ himself. I know it's an extreme example but like Chess, Warhammer is a game of tactics and consideration.

I've heard of people refusing to play against FW army lists and I think that's somewhat daft but I don't think that a person is a killjoy if they don't want folk to just 'dip into' other Codexes for powerful units.

I think personally that the kind of person who'd start stamping their feet and calling people names because didn't want to play a game in their way, rather than use the rules as written is the arsehole.

It's precisely this reason that Apocalypse exists, to allow people to take non-orthodox forces. But I just don't think it's fair at all to start throwing names at a (large) group of people who enjoy playing 40k/Fantasy, as it is meant to be played.
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# Captain Wolverine
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I never play the game seriously and actual won't play it seriously as I am not a gamer, I don't play to win I play for simple to use the models.

And I refuse to play against players who won't bend the rules for fun or power gamers cos I find them a bore to play against as life is too short to care about little people and this is after all only plastic soldiers and all I want to do is show off my painting even if it means they are off the game board before they get a look in.

In a official proper game then fairs fair they are the rules. as for chess that a different game you don't get to choose your force.

I only play for fun and won't waste my time over people who will only play seriously as I care not enough for the game to stress over gamers that won't bend for a game where a winner is never worked out and I declare even if I have wiped out my opponent as a draw but thankfully, I play with people for are easily please with just a game and not a win
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