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Pimp my train; Cos I now know I'm not the only one here
Topic Started: 17 Oct 2009, 06:59 PM (1,390 Views)
☺Jasevx
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Early Hornbys, some rare engines as well. all my track had gone rusty and I couldn't be arsed starting again
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Shadowphrakt
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9 Feb 2010, 08:36 PM
Wow, what were they? The three rail stuff?
I'm selling some triang stuff, which has got uhm, 30 watchers, and a fari few bids. its looking good!

And Jase, you should see some of the massive nerds on the Railway modelling forums...seriously...1000 times worse than what we're talking about. Paying about £500 for some locos, building their own out of white metal, paying £34 for most coaches, being incredibly geeky about every single little detail.
Edited by Shadowphrakt, 11 Feb 2010, 11:39 PM.
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☺charlie_c67
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I'm not that bad! I just buy the RTR stuff, cheap as I can. The only reason that my new engines have cost so much is cos they're all limited editions. Like the new offering from Hattons....

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To be honest I'm not bothered about the bells and whistles, more the fact it's a rare mini that's never been made before. Think Centaurius of the railway world.
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# Commissar Molotov
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I'm not somebody who knows that much about model trains, but I would like to purchase a train that would be suitable for a 28mm Inquisitor game. I want to do a cinematic "battle on a train", and whilst I could do it with rectangles of card, it would be neat to have a suitably 40k train. I've always liked the aesthetic of trains during WWII, so I was wondering if someone could point me to a train that would be cheap, suitably large for 28mm scale and would fit somewhat the design aesthetics of 40k?

I know it's a big ask, but you guys are my best bet! :)
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Well, OO gauge is 1:76, and O gauge is 1:43.5/45/48 * depends on which country you're in so would suggest this or Gauge 1. Want it cheap? I'd suggest ebay else you're looking at a couple of hundred quid for a new one....

*Ah the joys of wiki. Before anyone accuses me of being too geeky :P
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Shadowphrakt
11 Feb 2010, 11:35 PM
charlie_c67
9 Feb 2010, 08:36 PM
Wow, what were they? The three rail stuff?
I'm selling some triang stuff, which has got uhm, 30 watchers, and a fari few bids. its looking good!

And Jase, you should see some of the massive nerds on the Railway modelling forums...seriously...1000 times worse than what we're talking about. Paying about £500 for some locos, building their own out of white metal, paying £34 for most coaches, being incredibly geeky about every single little detail.
Sounds just like a lot of Warhammer fans (and most people on this site) to be honest. Paying for expensive Forgeworld vehicles. Building kits. Paying for other overpriced GW stuff. Scratchbuilding stuff to the nth rivet... not that I think it's a bad thing. It's just when people are uppity dicks, which happens in all circles, that there is problems.


Commissar Molotov not sure how little you know, so I'll do the detailed explanation.
OO gauge is too small. O gauge is too big, but is suitable for 40k, being as everything in 40 is larger than life. Some slight conversions might be necessary though.

Unfortunately O gauge is expensive. Rolling stock would be easy to scratchbuild though. The cheapest O gauge stuff is narrow gauge christmas trains and the like, which run on HO/OO (same gauge track for the two scales) gauge track. These are nearly always 19th Century American style though. The next cheapest pure O gauge would probably be Lionel 3 Rail, again as the yanks seem to like the anachronistic toy train look of three rail.

Of course, there is always scratchbuilding, and you might be able to find something on ebay. In fact, searching for something on ebay would likely be the only place to find something suitable for warhammer at a decent price.

I have seen OO scale plastic train kits, like a car or a plane kit, but it was fully assembled and on display, so I don't know who made it.
Edited by Raellos, 12 Feb 2010, 05:08 AM.
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Just to throw my thoughts in about the Train for the game, 'O' Guage is too big as Raellos has said, but given the 40k universe "larger-then-life" application for everything would work, but if you want an actual in scale train, look to 'S' Scale, its actually the perfect size for 28mm's.

The only thing is, as it is quite a specialist scale, it is therefore damned expensive and mainly american outline stuff.

maybe stick with some cheap 'O' Scale stuff, you can pick some up rather cheape if you look for older Lima sets, try toy and train fairs and the like, rather then ebay or dedicated model railway shops.

Alternativley you could always scratchbuild one :D

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9 Feb 2010, 03:20 AM
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8 Feb 2010, 06:12 PM
Have to say I'm sorely tempted by the new model of the city of truro that the NRM is selling, only problem is the price, but it's a spankingly good model.
Apparently there will be a normal run after the NRM limited edition.
If City of truro sells well, then Bachmann would be clever to manufacture a City Class model, but they cannot use the same moulds as CoT. Those belong the the NRM and only the NRM can use them. It would require massive amounts of investment by Bachmann to start a city class. And I don't think they'll sell all that well to be honest, I mean, CoT hasn't sold as well as first expected, because of the price.

EDIT: I realise that if Bachmann did sell a City Class loco, it wouldn't have a £145 price tag.
Edited by Shadowphrakt, 13 Feb 2010, 11:02 AM.
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I've looked into it a bit, and unless I'm wrong, the 'Platinum' version with flash box, display stand and certificate is a limited edition, but the standard one has no number attached.

I must have only read up to an early part of the thread. It was 15 pages though.
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13 Feb 2010, 11:14 AM
I've looked into it a bit, and unless I'm wrong, the 'Platinum' version with flash box, display stand and certificate is a limited edition, but the standard one has no number attached.

I must have only read up to an early part of the thread. It was 15 pages though.
I think you're right, but £145 is still a bit steep for a 4-4-0 loco for most people. Considering that Tornado by Bachmann is only £110. But in all honestly, I don't think Bachmann will produce a 4-4-0 city class - theses companies only produce moulds for third parties if they don't think they'll sell well themselves, hence the CoT, Deltic (which was a flop tbh). The same can be seen with Dapol, who've produced the 2-4-0 Beattie Well tank for Some obscure model shop, as well as a few others for them. They've only really done this because there's no market for them outside of this, so they dont' stand to make any money from the moulds.
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Why was the Deltic such a flop? Whilst I don't mind paying a bit extra if I know the money's going to the NRM I won't pay through the nose for it.
Dapol are doing the Beattie well tank for a shop in the area the engines are best known, which kinda of makes sense really. They will also be Dapols first foray into motive power in the 21st century and since they sold most of their other plans to Hornby or lost the others in a factory fire.
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13 Feb 2010, 05:46 PM
Why was the Deltic such a flop? Whilst I don't mind paying a bit extra if I know the money's going to the NRM I won't pay through the nose for it.
I don't know why, all I know is that it didn't seel as well as had been expected, and quite a few were returned as "unwanted gifts" or ebay-ed.


I'm currently looking into the possibility of getting na LNER Sir Nigel Gresly...The new Railroad Falcon looks quite promising...and cheap.
Edited by Shadowphrakt, 14 Feb 2010, 12:53 AM.
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# Commissar Molotov
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Raellos - thank you for the input and the advice, I'll have to give the situation some further thought!
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Another thing, 3ft lengths of O gauge flexitrack are still pretty cheap (points aren't though, you are best off making your own), so you can afford to have some rail going to a building, or a small yard.

I was looking at some German stuff, some of that looks very 40k and less regonsisable than the American gear. If you could get some German trains in O gauge for cheap they'd be perfect.
Edited by Raellos, 17 Feb 2010, 04:06 AM.
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