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TSOALR; is going away
Topic Started: 1 Aug 2009, 11:49 PM (607 Views)
gun drone 3.0
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I don't know if anyone ever read the web comic turn signals on a land raider but I just heard that GW is shuting it down! what you thing of that?
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Khrangar
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He said on his site that he couldn't print the comic in book form (GW) to make money on it so that's why he's stopping.

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As many of you know I am ending the production of Turn Signals because I cannot sell collected printed comics and make real money due to Games Workshop’s intellectual property policy and them not being interested in making any kind of mutually adventageous deal with the TSOALR Empire.

Taken from the site.

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Edited by Khrangar, 2 Aug 2009, 12:12 AM.
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So he's not exactly stopping because of GW. He's stopping cause he can't make cash as GW own the IP. Fair enough on GWs part really, it's not like the strip is even that funny.
Edited by The Antipope, 2 Aug 2009, 03:28 AM.
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Yeah i never saw the appeal of tsoalr, what with badly drawn graphics and terrible jokes. The only thing going for it is that it is 40k. And nhe deserves to have been stopped by gw if all he wanted to do was make money from it.
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I've only read the first 150 or so strips of TSOALR but I actually think there were some pretty funny ones that I could relate to from my gaming days hehe :) It's not all about the graphics
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Ive read it all, but I have to say the guy is kinda [tinkle]y for quitting when he cant make money of someone else`s product, this isn`t like Damnatus, that was a non-profit film ...
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I suppose it's only one comic strip, no big deal. GW has shut down far worse - like ebay traders.
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Isn't GW in danger of losing the rights to their IP if they let him make money off it without acting? That is, at least, what I've understood from various discussions online. Standard caveats apply, this might be total and utter bull, but if it's true one can't really blame GW.
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2 Aug 2009, 10:12 PM
Ive read it all, but I have to say the guy is kinda [tinkle]y for quitting when he cant make money of someone else`s product, this isn`t like Damnatus, that was a non-profit film ...
Be fair to GW about Damnatus mate, it wasn't GW, it was German IP laws ;)

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August 3rd, 2009
Folks, thank you for the tremendous outpouring of supportive comments. I want to take some time and answer as many questions and dispel many of the rumors that were posted here, rather than address them individually in the long column of comments for 666.

First: Discontinuing this comic because I can’t make money.
The amount of effort that I expend to put up the comic three times per week was far outpacing the monetary return. Contrary to what you might think, they best way for webcomic artists to make money from their comics at the present time is to print books and sell the collections. That’s where the big I-can-quit-my-day-job money is. Without that resource available to me the best I can do is dice sales and the occasional T-shirt. Quite frankly it is not enough. Make no mistake: I have many, MANY more models in my work room than I would have had without sponsors that paid me in store credit, so I cannot say that I did not ever benefit from the comic.

B: Games Workshop shut me down.
Not quite true. Don’t blame GW for this, I was the one who decided to use their IP. They are well within their rights to allow or not allow any use of their property. I was hoping that since Turn Signals has always been an advocate of Games Workshop and their products that a mutually-beneficial arrangement could be made. That did not happen. If someone at GW wanted to make it happen tomorrow I would be all ears, but for now I’m moving on. They let me live for almost 6 years when they could have really shut me down any time they wanted to and for that I must thank them.


3: Kren and Frep are dead.
As anyone who has read Turn Signals knows, no one is really dead, no matter how badly they are obliterated, atomized, shredded, or vaporized. I have plans for them, and Cavendish, and everyone else, assuming I can get Games& off the ground.

Delta: I am getting Games& off the ground.
True. It was supposed to pick up where Turn Signals left off, but that has not happened yet. I am not a computer genius like Webmaster Larry and I still need to sit down with him and work out all of the web page, WordPress, and ComicPress bugs that I am currently staring at. I’m hoping I have entertained you enough that you will point your eyeballs at my next comic but I know that statistically I cannot bring ALL of you over to a new and different webcomic, but I hope that some of you will join me and Keenan, Eric, Klak-Nor, and Reg over at the game store. Keep checking here for updates that will direct you there shortly.

V: Turn Signals is going away:
Nope, it will be here as long as I keep paying Dreamhost, which I intend to do for the foreseeable future. So the archives will exist for as long as you wish to paw through them. I’m trying to figure out a way that ComicPress will randomize comics and show a new one every day, but I’m not sure it’s capable of that function yet.

Well, I’ve got some drawing and some computating to do… SEE YA!

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Short version is he is quitting because he isnt getting enough out of it to justify the time he his putting into it. Those of you slamming his style: You have a go at doing 3 strips a week in a better style.... I can't so I shant judge his style. I always found his jokes to play close to reality... The fact that he finally won a game before shutting the strip down speaks to me on several levels as I am a (mostly) losing player who just does this for fun.
Edited by dean, 3 Aug 2009, 06:30 PM.
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2 Aug 2009, 08:51 PM
I've only read the first 150 or so strips of TSOALR but I actually think there were some pretty funny ones that I could relate to from my gaming days hehe :) It's not all about the graphics
It may not be all about the graphics but all i am trying to say is that if he was going to sell the comic then he would need to improve as compared to many other of the big comics the graphics arent all that great.

@Dean- As mentioned above i meant for a sellable product but still why not do only 2 comics a week or one every four days, that wouldnt take as much time and would mean that he would have more time to think up jokes ect.
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yes I just read what the guy said today and i sdo agree you can't make money off of someone eles ideas but hey I did like the coke bottle carnfex joke:)
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