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Fantasy Challenge 2009 / 2010 discussion thread; Can you build a 2000 point army?
Topic Started: 28 Mar 2009, 01:15 PM (6,991 Views)
# Digits
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Other problem to overcome....

What happens if there are not enough units in the army to see you 'till the end?

Suggest awarding 4 points per month default until compo end with +1 point per unit if you decide to go over your 2000 points.
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# Digits
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highmarshaldave
30 Mar 2009, 06:44 PM
Ah, but if you don't put someone in once they've won, then that solves that issue. Wasn't that idea already floated?

Dave out.
Of course!!!! Simple but good!
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# dean
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That part would fall upon the nominating comittee... (me and whomever else I rope into it... :P)

The poll will keep interest up and get people involved in scoring their own competition...
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Brambleten
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well, at one unit a month, unless you skimp on characters, you should have at least 5 months of models (2 characters, and a minimum of 3 core choices, which, unless you are chaos and doing a throgg list, isnt 2k
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# Digits
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Nice idea Dean.
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# the_great_gonzo
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this blatant band-wagon jumping is infectious, it doesn't fail to amaze me how easy it is for a simple idea to grab me and turn my head. I've tinkered before in the past with WFB but this might just prove to be the kick up the backside my modelling and painting requires, as recently I have grown tired of the chore that is painting 40k just now...
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BDJV
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Here's my Woc log. Skulls, Spikes and Heavy Armor
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# dean
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Tenative Scoring rules:

5 pts FOR FIRST UNIT /MONTH (Goal unit)
+1 pt FOR ANY UNITS /MONTH AFTER THE GOAL UNIT
+2 BONUS POINTS TO BE AWARDED VIA POLL FOR "MOST AWESOMEST PAINTJOB/CONVERSION (poll winner may not be considered for any bonus points for the month end after poll win or any judges points from month that won poll)
+1 BONUS POINT AWARDED BY JUDGES FOR BEST PAINTJOB (may not be awarded to poll winner or judges conversion winner)
+1 BONUS POINT AWARDED BY JUDGES FOR BEST CONVERSION (may not be awarded to poll winner or judges painting winner)

In the event you finish your Army early (2000 points) you will recieve a +4pts/month maintenence award and add up to one additional unit at +1pt/ month (so fast painters do not benfit from blazing on)


Is one point per extra unit a month enough added to the +4 maintence award?


Okay, done editing... Discuss!
Edited by dean, 30 Mar 2009, 07:57 PM.
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Brambleten
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looks good. what do you mean by "maintenance award"?
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# dean
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Digits
30 Mar 2009, 06:46 PM
Other problem to overcome....

What happens if there are not enough units in the army to see you 'till the end?

Suggest awarding 4 points per month default until compo end with +1 point per unit if you decide to go over your 2000 points.
here... hmmm Digits said both and I understood either....
Edited by dean, 30 Mar 2009, 07:35 PM.
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☺highmarshaldave
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Sounds almost idiot proof Dean. Well done mate.

Dave out.
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# Digits
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Looks ok to me. +1 for extra units stops anyone with a myriad of small cheap units running away with it!
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# Captain Wolverine
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30 Mar 2009, 06:21 PM
How bout scoring the same way band of brothers was done?

AR
Problem with this was one knows how thats was done not even AD/Mark
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Brambleten
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30 Mar 2009, 07:33 PM
Digits
30 Mar 2009, 06:46 PM
Other problem to overcome....

What happens if there are not enough units in the army to see you 'till the end?

Suggest awarding 4 points per month default until compo end with +1 point per unit if you decide to go over your 2000 points.
here... hmmm Digits said both and I understood either....
in all my excitement i completely missed that. cheers Dean. everything looks good scoring wise
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# dean
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30 Mar 2009, 07:26 PM
Tenative Scoring rules:

5 pts FOR FIRST UNIT /MONTH (Goal unit)
+1 pt FOR ANY UNITS /MONTH AFTER THE GOAL UNIT
+2 BONUS POINTS TO BE AWARDED VIA POLL FOR "MOST AWESOMEST PAINTJOB/CONVERSION (poll winner may not be considered for any bonus points for the month end after poll win or any judges points from month that won poll)
+1 BONUS POINT AWARDED BY JUDGES FOR BEST PAINTJOB (may not be awarded to poll winner or judges conversion winner)
+1 BONUS POINT AWARDED BY JUDGES FOR BEST CONVERSION (may not be awarded to poll winner or judges painting winner)

In the event you finish your Army early (2000 points) you will recieve a +4pts/month maintenence award and add up to one additional unit at +1pt/ month (so fast painters do not benfit from blazing on)

Okay, re-worded some stuff... Comment again please...


Edit: Links updated to this post....
Edited by dean, 30 Mar 2009, 08:16 PM.
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# Digits
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Triffic!
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☺Maelstrom
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I might just do this, and finish off the last few units of my dark elves, got no where near 2000pts left to paint tho.more like a unit of converted dark riders and im repainting my old cold one knights and war hydra.

A do however love sculptin dark elf characters so i could just contribute them?
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# dean
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Okay, Having a ponder in my car home from work got me thinking (an hour commute will do that to you….) Some clarification may be in order, tell me how this sounds:


Scoring Definitions:

Unit: AT LEAST the minimum legal size for a unit of that type.
Example: If Digits starts a planned unit of 25 Empire spearmen (and who wouldn’t, I have just such a unit in my box… Maybe explains why they aren’t painted….) and Digits gets partway through the month and realizes there is no way in…. he cannot finish the entire unit then he may split them into a 10 man unit and a 15 man unit to do over 2 separate months. He cannot split them into 10, 10 and 5 because 5 is not a legal minimum sized unit… You’ll have to make those up on your own time Dave…. Likewise if he has a 6 man cavalry unit planned then he must do all 6 as 5 is the minimum unit size, the spare cant go into the next unit for painting....
Also "child" units must be painted with their regiment... IE: Fanatics must be painted with the unit of Night Gobbos they go with.

Character: If your character comes in box or blister with a mounted and unmounted version they must be completed together or you must have a really smoking conversion planned for the unfinished one! Coming along 6 months later and going “Oh, I finally finished my Bright wizard on foot model, he counts as a character.” Will get you booed and said mini will not be scored cause you were supposed to do it with the mounted version. Such is the price of wimping out and only doing 1 mini while Dave up there is trying to do 25…..

And while minor heros are characters I'll consider them on a case by case basis. An Empire warrior priest is not the same as the Witch king on black dragon.... You'll probibly need to do a few warrior priests.... (Also depends on whether anybody plans Dragons... :P )

War Machine: War Machine shall include all crew supplied in GW’s box or a reasonable facsimile thereof (for you scratch builders…)


How does that sound?
Edited by dean, 30 Mar 2009, 10:04 PM.
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# Digits
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A ltlle worried about splitting units but I think I see where you are coming from. Perhaps if we added a 20 point completion bonus to the army, that will focus people to finish, otherwise they could keep splitting their units, get five points every month, but only paint half their army?
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# dean
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I know.. but do we really want to bog down the guy who is trying to finsh that 30 man regiment and cant quite get it done? And most units will not be double the legal size anyway. Maybe if we get guys to post up their armylists beforehand.... and make that a case by case basis also...
Edited by dean, 30 Mar 2009, 10:02 PM.
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