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New Forthcoming Guard; Inc Valk & stuff from Design Studio Day
Topic Started: 8 Feb 2009, 09:53 PM (28,058 Views)
☺Tepok
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Nope, they all have to fire at the same target... however... 9 russes... that still enables you to destroy the better part of an army in a turn unless they have lots of small units.


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Surely a squadron of russes fires as a multiple barrage? So you place the ranging shot then scatter the other two off it. That is nasty!

Dave out.
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☺charlie_c67
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Was gonna say, you still have the ability to "accidentally" scatter the shots into other units don't you? 9 Russes will make a mess of most small elite forces.
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Brambleten
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yeah, you can still target the edge of a squad and hope for massive scatter. i did that recently with a plasma cannon from a devs squad that targeted a monolith. target the edge of the monolith, and a healthy scatter later ended up with 4 dead necron warriors
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7 May 2009, 06:07 PM
Surely a squadron of russes fires as a multiple barrage? So you place the ranging shot then scatter the other two off it. That is nasty!

Dave out.
No.

Read the damn rules you filthy enemies of Brownist-Mandelite-concessionism!



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7 May 2009, 07:53 PM
highmarshaldave
7 May 2009, 06:07 PM
Surely a squadron of russes fires as a multiple barrage? So you place the ranging shot then scatter the other two off it. That is nasty!

Dave out.
No.

Read the damn rules you filthy enemies of Brownist-Mandelite-concessionism!



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Oh yeah, thinking 5th Ed. You simple treble the humber of hits, don't you. Thats worse for the poor saps under the plate.

And I would read the rules, but the quest to find my rulebook would put Tolkein to shame.

Dave out.
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☺Tepok
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No.


Now my dear Dave, go get your rulebook, check the squadron rules, check the ordanance (not the barrage, not the multiple barrage, not the smarties falling back from a three sided assault) rules.



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after consulting the book of armaments (new testament), sections squadrons and ordnance, is it correct to assume that you fire one weapon at a time at the same squad, allowing then for scatter from each firing attempt
Edited by Brambleten, 8 May 2009, 10:04 AM.
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☺highmarshaldave
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7 May 2009, 08:03 PM
No.


Now my dear Dave, go get your rulebook, check the squadron rules, check the ordanance (not the barrage, not the multiple barrage, not the smarties falling back from a three sided assault) rules.



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But, but, but. . . EPIC QUEST!!!

I have a better idea. I'll be lazy and not bother since I don't think I'll ever actually use Russes in squadrons :P

Dave out.
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☺Jasevx
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but say a medusa squadron rolls for scatter over the same hit point? thats two wasted shots if they all bullseye, nothings going to survive ap2 under the first shot
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lol, im just going to read the dex when i get it and then join this pointless debate...

even though it does have a point... :P
Edited by Dave38x, 8 May 2009, 10:19 AM.
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Ah, but here is the real kicker. . . Heavy weapon teams can't fire their lasguns anymore due to the totally pointless rule change to make them a 2 wound model.

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However, hit a HW team with a template that doesn't instakill, and you can't kill the whole team.

I personally put my HW team members on seperate bases, so I can remove one model at a time, but the author of the Codex is trying to work with the way the models are being released, with both members on one base. And the HW teams being released like that goes back years now. A case of models driving the rules?
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Not really mate, keep in mind that we only got plastic heavy weapons in 2004. Prior to that all we had were the metal ones from 2nd ed, and they were all seperately based.

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☺Jasevx
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i always have one seperate for that ruling, its made that a barrage can kill a marine squad but not a hw team
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☺Dave38x
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huge score for the heavy weapon teams!!!
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☺charlie_c67
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http://www.belloflostsouls.net/2009/05/40k-tactica-ig-psyker-battle-squad_08.html

Rather an interesting squad from the new dex. Shame Commissr squads aren't back, what do people think about this?
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i had a look at that. for 100 points to be able to pop out a str 9 template a turn is practically a no brainer for me. that and a primaris psyker could do a lot of damage, mopping up what the tanks dont kill
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Go post in someone's topic that you normally wouldn't
Psykers smack to me of Chaos taint.

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Entertainment officer...Meet the gang cos the boys are here.....
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