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Guard Rumors; Take with a grain of salt...
Topic Started: 2 Jun 2008, 03:54 PM (493 Views)
styx
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For you that look to the future in your building efforts...

Rumors brought to the community by: Warseer's Dosadi

~These very, very early inklings regarding Codex: IG have been floating about the tubes since this weekend:

Take this with the usual dose of salt guys, but someone I trust told me that the new guard codex may have the following things in it.

Army wide special rule: I think it’s called Platoon Drill or something like that. Basically, units from the same platoon may ignore intervening squads when shooting. So enemy units targeted in this way do not receive the 4+ save. Apparently this only works if the Platoon command squad is alive and within 12” of the rest of the platoon. I’ve been told that this is just one of the abilities guard Platoons may get, but only as long as the chain of command is intact (whatever that means). So loosing your HQ Command Squad may be a really bad thing.

Doctrines are for sure gone (I think we all knew this), but have been replaced by more mutable platoons. Instead of Armoured fist squads you can buy Chimeras for a whole platoon. Or buy the whole platoon grav-chutes to give them deep strike, or drop the heavy weapons from squads and give the platoon Scout. Veteran squads become upgrades to platoons (i.e. they are not elites anymore).

Apparently infantry platoons let you attach certain types of support vehicles to them(kinda like back in second edition). Things like sentinels, hellhounds and demolishers can be attached to platoons. They still take up a FOC spot, but become part of the platoon and so will benefit from the Platoon Drill rule.

The Leman Russ can be bought as a squadron so you can get 3 for a single FOC. They can not be attached to platoons however.

Sniper Squads can now infiltrate, get stealth, range finders and all models in the squad have sniper rifles (and BS 4!).

Like the Land Raider, a new plastic sprue for the Leman Russ has been made that will allow plastic demolishers and a 3rd variant (my money is on the Exterminator).

The Baneblade in NOT in the new codex. It just doesn’t work (i.e. overpowered)in games that are not Apocalypse in size.

However Stormtrooper squads can now take Valkyries as transports. Both will be getting a plastic kit. Valkyries follow the rules for skimmers I’ve been told. Again, they want to keep flyers and super heavies out of “normal games” but give people the ability to use them with all the special rules in Apocalypse and Planet-strike (if the ever get around to that.)

This last one makes me wonder what’s they are doing, but apparently there is a new HQ in the book; Inquisitor and Retinue much like the elites from the current Daemon Hunters/Witch Hunters books.
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Daemon-Forge
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Sounds good to me, but we will have to wait and see
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Karnage
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For what it's worth, my source on all things Guard at the moment seems to think that these rumours are "very accurate", but would say no more than that :D
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Brambleten
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sounds like its the right time for me to be looking into a guard army then.
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And its off to the 40k section with this thread!

I hadn't heard that platoon drilll was going to be army wide though - I thought it'd be part of the doctrine system. Anywho I'm looking forward to getting my hands on a Valkyrie :D
 
Merceus
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notice how no one replies once the threads been moved down here? ;) I'll say no more then that...

anyway, some fancy looking changes there :) though I'm still not gonna be collecting Guard any time soon by my reckoning :P
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☺Jasevx
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Just people can't be arsed looking for it! :$

I like the sound of that, fits in with my lot! 9 Russ's taking up 3 Heavy slots, mmmm
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Sotek
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Sounds alright to me.
just hoping that i can still use my sniper heavy army :-/
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Keravin
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Seems to deal with virtually all the problems that removing Doctrines leaves.

Happy to see proper Sniper squads rather than ratlings.
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Lt.Gregor
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I will miss my Armored Fist Squads, but then if you'r allowed to take "support" vehicles with platoons, then my Dream of 12 Sentials and 3 Hellhouds in one army is comming to pass.

I hope they bring back the Salamader Scout Vehicle and the Leman Russ Exterminator.
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