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| Mr.Mustard | Jan 3 2010, 10:26 PM Post #1 |
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I admire Joanna lumley's stand in favour of Rightmove. Using her experience as a camapigner for the knife weilding murdering Gurkha's Joanna Lumley has now taken up a new cause. The cause is the UK's #1 online property website, Rightmove, which is an Independent Company that specializes in international property and which has built a reputation as a Company that can be relied on to sell property to the international market whether it is the purchase of a holiday home in the sun or an investment opportunity. Joanna Lumley also says that Rightmove has also established itself as one of the leading estate agents selling international property. This success has been achieved in a highly competitive marketplace due to the dedication and professionalism of all rightmoves staff combined with the use of the latest information technology available.
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| NickAdams2010 | Jan 3 2010, 10:33 PM Post #2 |
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| Cleo | Jan 3 2010, 11:51 PM Post #3 |
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| JeffLynnesBeard | Jan 3 2010, 11:52 PM Post #4 |
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| Dorfliedot | Jan 4 2010, 12:24 AM Post #5 |
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| NickAdams2010 | Jan 4 2010, 06:14 PM Post #6 |
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| Mr.Mustard | Jan 4 2010, 06:18 PM Post #7 |
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Didn't anybody get the sarcasm in the OP? I was a bit drunk when I did it so i'm quite glad how it's turned out
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| modgirl1964 | Jan 5 2010, 03:19 AM Post #8 |
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Who I admire? That's a vauge question since it can be looked at so many ways. I'll go from the list that I have. Politically and for their presverance: Franklin Roosevelt--He did so much for this country in a time of hardship and in a time of war. He spoke the bravest words that were so needed at that time, "the only thing to fear is fear itself," such strong words and still ring true today. I'm greatly sadden that there is not another leader like him around for our times. We should could of used another FDR. Eleanore Roosevelt--She too worked so selflessly for the country at a time of great need. The way she had pushed for civil rights at such an early time was just amazing and how she worked so hard was truly admirable. Winston Chruchill--I'll use the story my father used to tell me as a kid. We all know the tale of King Arthur and Camelot. Some might remember that the Acient Britons believed that Arthur would come back to save England when it had another dark hour of need. My father used to tell me that and then he would said, "Chruchill was Arthur." Now I may not believe a bedtime story like that, but I do admire the way he held the country together durning the war and of course, never surrendered. The Kennedy Bros. (John, Bobby, Teddy)-- Yeah, ok, this is biased coming from an Irish-American Democrat. But dispite their faluts, they did work very hard and selflessly for the rights of others. Just amazing how they came from so much privlidge, they gave right back. Personally: My grandfather--He was the oldest of 13 children, went to war at 18, was the first out of anyone in my family to even go to college (let alone to be the first to gradurate from it). My grandfather worked hard to the day he died to give his family a good life through teaching, humour, and just being around. He always made time for you, even if he was in the middle of a book or an movie, to take a walk or just to sit and talk. He's still sorely missed 20 years on by our family, but we still carry on what he's taught us. My grandmothers-- I say both because in so many ways, they are alike. Both raise six children and both were not like many women of their generation. My grandmother McCormack was an ophran, lost her mother due to the 1918 flu epmidic and her father in the early 20's to a heart attack, she worked her way through high school and then married my grandfather durning the Great Depression. She raised 5 children in a two bedroom apartment in Brooklyn druning the Depression and the war. She didn't own her first home until 1954 when my mother was born. When my grandfather became to ill to keep working with the insurance firm he was with, she went to work with the New Yor Board of Education. A rartity at that time for the wife to be the sole supporter of the house, but grandma did it right up until she was too ill herself to work. I didn't know her very well as Demetia had robbed so much of the sharp mind and wit that those who did knew her the best told me about. She was the most beautiful person I had ever saw inside and out and dearly wished to be like her. My grandmother Butler. She is my rock, my go-to. I know where I get so much of my personality from, this delightful, hard working, caring, witty, and just insanely smart woman. She has always pushed me to do well, living out her own dreams in away with us kids. She raised six kids, but always made sure she had time for everyone and her own pursuits. When going to off to college for the first time, my grandmother said she was pleased to see me do it and wished she had be able to go herself before she got married. A shock to hear from a woman of the generation who was only dream was to get married, but then not really since my grandmother in her own way is a bit of a femist, lol. I'm please to have this amazing woman as my grandmother and happy to still have her around. |
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| BeatleBarb | Jan 5 2010, 02:41 PM Post #9 |
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Bridget - You really admire some strong, good people. It also sounds like you've been afforded some wonderful role models in your grandparents. It's obvious how much they mean to you. I'm sure you have got some of that tenacity that has seen you through your accomplishments. I'm sure they admire you, too. Thanks for sharing and putting so much into your thoughtful response. |
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| moggy | Jan 13 2010, 06:25 PM Post #10 |
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Lets see John lennon george galloway tony benn terry waite ( met him twice , a very warm sincere funny man) George harrison paul weller curtis mayfield Anyone in the army/ navy/ air force ect who have suffered john pilger Berry gordy |
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| Mr.Mustard | Jan 13 2010, 08:07 PM Post #11 |
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George Galloway's a friend of Castro. Do you know how many people castro has had killed? |
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| moggy | Jan 14 2010, 05:01 AM Post #12 |
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Yeah i know....i have got Georges book on him. If its true , it will be far less than bush and blair have killed. ( and thatcher and reagan) |
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When you cast your eyes upon the skylines, Of this once proud nation. Can you sense the fear and the hatred Growing in the hearts of its population. And our youth, oh youth, are being seduced , By the greedy hands of politics and half truths, Reared on a diet of prejudice and misinformation The beaten generation, Open your eyes , Open your imagination We're being sedated by the gasoline fumes, And hypnotised by the satellites Into believing what is good and what is right. | |
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| Cleo | Jan 14 2010, 05:19 AM Post #13 |
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Exactly. Who supported Chilean dictator Pinochet? Not George Galloway, not Castro. More than 50.000 deaths, more than 30.000 still missing, more than 400.000 arrested because of this paranoid "everybody is communist let's kill them" way of thinking. |
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| moggy | Jan 14 2010, 08:45 AM Post #14 |
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Christy Moore http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ec82YUtvZNU George is a great, inteligent, articulate man. I dont know how he puts up with the lies and BS writen about him in the rags and by the establishment.....when he telling THE TRUTH. This is one of the many reasons i admire the man. If people had listened to him and the anti war coalition over Iraq , that would have saved millions of deaths , injuries, homelessness , and a INCREASE in world terrorism. I nearly put Castro on my list for standing up to the US for all these years.....but i dont know enough about him. I would like to vist Cuba one day.....dont fancy the flight though. Edited by moggy, Jan 14 2010, 08:47 AM.
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| Mr.Mustard | Jan 14 2010, 12:38 PM Post #15 |
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Galloway needs to remember which side his breads buttered. |
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| moggy | Jan 14 2010, 12:54 PM Post #16 |
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George isnt thinking of himself ( a rare thing these days) He wants peace and freedom in the world , but for the Palestinians in particular. He will not settle or give up , until the Palestinians bread is buttered , not when his own is. It would be far easier for George to sit in Parliament , get his money and baa like the rest of the sheep in there .....but George is made of stronger stuff . I was sat yards away from George when he did this interview http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5BjAGvuJHdw Edited by moggy, Jan 14 2010, 01:02 PM.
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| moggy | Jan 14 2010, 12:58 PM Post #17 |
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Quotes from previous posts " George Galloway's a friend of Castro. Do you know how many people castro has had killed?" "Yeah i know....i have got Georges book on him." I was commenting on the first bit , not the second . |
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| Mr.Mustard | Jan 14 2010, 01:05 PM Post #18 |
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Both sides of the cold war killed a lot of people. But we in the west can have the moral high ground 'cause the people in western countries were a lot more free than in commie countries and the politicians weren't dictators. I'm somone who thinks the U.S.S.R was determined to try and take over the world and run it as a communist super state ruled by Moscow which means that what was happening in chile prior to the coup needed to be stymied, and I'm glad it was. However, I don't think there should have been a coup. The Chile economy was a mess and that meant the soviets couldn't use Chile to spread their ideology and power to other latin American countries. If the Soviets had been more respectful of the countries who they had power over then it wouldn't have ratcheted up so much fear and therefore maybe people like Pincochet would probably have been less ruthless. |
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| moggy | Jan 14 2010, 01:28 PM Post #19 |
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From where i sit , the biggest threat to world peace is the US ( backed by its poodles the UK and Israel) http://academic.evergreen.edu/g/grossmaz/interventions.html It cannot keep its nose out of other countries affairs ....normally making things worse. saddam and bin laden of course were funded and backed by the US and UK. The US says it is trying to spread democracy in the world. This of course only applies if a country agrees with the US . If like France they dare say no to the US then all hell breaks loose. Democracy means agreeing with the US. Anyway the title of the thread was who do YOU admire , and MY answer was George Galloway. Just like the US my opinion does not correspond with US thinking.......so its a wrong opinion. I just wish blair , bush , chaney , campbell and the rest of the war criminals and religious nutters would end up in a court of law. ( but of course the victors are never held to account for their actions) I found out about the 72 countries the US have overthrown Governments from this doc by the great John Pilger .....another man i admire. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yK6eimhP2qo&feature=related Edited by moggy, Jan 14 2010, 01:37 PM.
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| Mr.Mustard | Jan 14 2010, 01:33 PM Post #20 |
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I just think it's chilling the way he starts saying 'socialism will surive' at the end of that. |
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| Mr.Mustard | Jan 14 2010, 01:42 PM Post #21 |
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Well w/e the rights and wrongs of what the U.S and the west have done or are doing the basic fact remains you can have magazines like Private eye in this country and you couldn't under Castro or Sadam Hussein. |
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| moggy | Jan 14 2010, 01:49 PM Post #22 |
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Capitalism is a far better system. Let the rich survive , and let the poor, old, disabled , ill suffer and die.....great system , a system worth fighting for....a look after no 1 society , with no manners, community spirit , resonable behavour, careing for the unfortunate .........bit like the UKs gone since thatcher....and it gets worse every year. I am sick to my back teeth of this country. |
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| Mr.Mustard | Jan 14 2010, 01:50 PM Post #23 |
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I can't understand why you don't just think yourself lucky that you live in a country where there isn't any repression. All people like Pilger and Galloway seem to do is want to find ways of making the west look like the bad guy. Maybe for the most part all the bad things we do are justified in terms of geopolitical self defence and the things that aren't justified are just the inevtiable consequences of the complexites of life. I mean do you think Pilger and Galloway are infallible? They're not. They don't have the responsibilty to protect millions of peoples lives like the politicians do. I'm sure if they were in power and trying to do what they thought was best for their country and the world they'red be a lot people getting killed just like their is now. They wouldn't just sit back and hope that other countries would play nice! If they did then they'd soon find out how naive they were. |
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| Mr.Mustard | Jan 14 2010, 01:57 PM Post #24 |
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Well that's the way the world works. The problem is with caring about other people like you do is you just don't know if they're are very nice conciensious people who would want to put down their place stations if they had one to help you if you were if you were unable to cope with life. |
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| Cleo | Jan 14 2010, 06:06 PM Post #25 |
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Chile wouldn't spread their ideology to other Latin American countries. South America is a continent, Latin America isn't. Latin America is a "region", a term invented by a dumb French and adopted by USA to kick Mexico out of the rich and "white" North America. Karl Marx spread the word and the word was in South America, Chile didn't have to spread anything. The economy of Chile was a mess because Nixon administration wanted to destabilize Allende's government. There weren't human rights violation during Allende's government. He was elected by the people and this is what democracy is about, people choose their president and the system they want. USA attacked Chilean's democracy. It was the first time the term "War on terror" was used but the terror came from USA when Allende was murdered and Pinochet took over Chile, A DICTATOR supported by USA. The first years of the regime were marked by human rights violations. Cool. You are glad it happened because it didn't happen in your country, you weren't tortured, you didn't lose a leg, arm, parents, brothers, children. USA supported all repressive governments in South America including Chile, Argentina, Brazil, Uruguay etc. moggy said the truth and add Australia, with less importance but they are there in case US needs soldiers.
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| Cleo | Jan 14 2010, 06:17 PM Post #26 |
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How come there isn't repression? What a homeless person can do with his freedom of speech? I understand it as repression, economic repression. Without money, you're dead, no school, food, clothes, job, no voice. Edited by Cleo, Jan 14 2010, 06:21 PM.
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| Mr.Mustard | Jan 14 2010, 06:36 PM Post #27 |
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I didn't say I was glad there was a coup. In fact I said I didn't their should have been one. I do think though that they were right to, as Nixon said, 'make the economy scream'. If they just let Allende go on with his socialist policies unchallenged it would have encouraged the U.S.S.R to try and buy their way into more S.American countries until they owned the place. Edited by Mr.Mustard, Jan 14 2010, 06:38 PM.
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| Mr.Mustard | Jan 14 2010, 07:00 PM Post #28 |
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That's a very spurious argument. Edited by Mr.Mustard, Jan 14 2010, 07:13 PM.
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| moggy | Jan 14 2010, 07:24 PM Post #29 |
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Yeah screw him, and all like him......UNLESS of course it happened to be yourself , or a loved one , then i am sure the situation would be different. I have had a drink problem for 20 years , and i find your attitude disgusting. But like i said earlier its a look after no 1 society now so sod those who need help. Luckily the people around here have been great with me , and i help people when ever i can...which is often. i do volentary work at EMMAUS a charity for the homeless , and the people there are great ....they have just had a hic up in their lives. Every one deserves a chance , but not of course in the capitalist world where the weak and infirm are crushed. Its a sad world when you are critizing people for careing about others...which is what you are doing. Just a thought ....the capitalist society brought in by thatcher ( and carried on by the current shower) as lead to untold misery for the working class. Communities are dieing with the traditional jobs that she sold down the river. This in turn as lead to more misery , a underclass of scroats , and a increase in drug/ alcohol abuse. the capitalist , look after no 1 society is partly to blame for the 'junkies' you look down on. And by the way the 4 blokes in your avatar have all had drug/ drink problems Edited by moggy, Jan 14 2010, 07:30 PM.
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I admire many people but there are few who become part of my life. Osho is one of them. Why? He attacks people's ego and beliefs brilliantly. One thing is believing in something because you reflected about it, you questioned it and you found your own answers. Another thing is believing because society said so, it's adopting people's truth as the truth without questioning it. Blind faith is as intolerant as preconceptions. Osho made me rethink and review my beliefs. I was born in a catholic country where people are born catholic. I was "catholic" until I read Osho's for the first time. I don't have to be catholic because the whole country is. I will never follow anyone that makes me feel guilty about something I didn't make. I didn't crucify Jesus why am I a sinner? Every time I went to the damn church, the priest called everybody a sinner. Ah come on...I won't waste my time with this crap. I will never be a follower, I can think for myself. I don't follow Osho but we have similar opinions and it's good to know that I am not alone, crazy and lunatic. I admire my mother because she didn't choose the easiest way. The easiest way for a a very attractive woman with a kid is to marry another man, a man with more money. I didn't have to grow up with a stranger at home who would want to play the father and tell me what to do, hit me, yell at me and God only knows what else. She sacrificed many things in life for me and I sacrificed many things for her. There is mutual admiration. I admire independent women who don't depend on men's money. I will never depend on men's money because of the good example I had at home. The easiest way is not easy sometimes. It's better to work hard, 12, 15 hours, but return home and find peace.My godfather. I admire him for spending his life with that crazy woman. He is a warrior. The president of Brazil, Luís Inácio "Lula" da Silva. from wikipedia "In December, 1952, when Lula was only seven years old, his mother decided to migrate to São Paulo with her children to rejoin her husband. After a journey of thirteen days in a pau-de-arara (the open cargo area of a truck), they arrived in Guarujá and discovered that his father had formed a second family. His father's two families lived in the same house for some time, but they didn't get along very well, and four years later, his mother moved with her children to a small room in the back area of a bar in the city of São Paulo. After that, Lula rarely saw his father, who became an alcoholic and died in 1978. Lula had little formal education. He did not learn to read until he was ten years old, and quit school after the fourth grade in order to work to help his family. His working life began at age 12 as a shoeshiner and street vendor. By age 14 he got his first formal job in a copper processing factory as a lathe operator. At age 19, he lost the little finger on his left hand in an accident while working as a press operator in an automobile parts factory. After losing his finger he had to run to several hospitals before he received medical attention. This experience increased his interest in participating within the Workers' Union. Around that time, he became involved in union activities and held several important union posts. Due to perceived incompatibility with Brazilian military government and trade unions activities, Lula's views moved further to the political left. In 1978 he was elected President of the Steel Workers' Union of São Bernardo do Campo and Diadema, cities in the Greater São Paulo, home to most of Brazil's automobile manufacturing facilities (such as Ford, Volkswagen, Toyota, Mercedes-Benz and others) and among the most industrialized in the country. In the late 1970s, Lula helped organize major union activities including huge strikes. He was jailed for a month, but was released following protests. For many years he was President of the Central Única dos Trabalhadores (CUT), a union federation that is strongly influenced by the Partido dos Trabalhadores (PT). Lula first ran for office in 1982, for the state government of São Paulo and lost. In the 1986 elections Lula won a seat in Congress with a reasonable majority. The Workers' Party (Partido dos Trabalhadores, PT) helped write the country's post-military government constitution, ensuring strong constitutional guarantees for workers' rights, but failed to achieve redistribution of rural agricultural land. In 1989, still as a Congressman, Lula ran as the PT presidential candidate. The fact that his party was formed as a loose confederacy of trade unionists, grassroots activists, left-wing Catholics, left-center social democrats and small Trotskyist groupings, while dampening overtly ideological issues, also earned him the distrust of better-off Brazilians precisely because of the ability of the PT to present itself as the first working class mass movement organized at grassroots. Lula refused to run for re-election as a congressman in 1990, busying himself with expanding the Workers' Party organizations around the country. He ran again for President in 1994 and 1998. As the political scene in the 1990s came under the sway of the Brazilian real monetary stabilization plan, which ended decades of rampant inflation, Lula lost in 1994 (in the first round) to the candidate former ex-Minister of Finance Fernando Henrique Cardoso, who ran for re-election (after a constitutional amendment ended the long-held rule that a president could not have a second term) in 1998, again winning in the first-round. In the 2002 campaign, Lula foreswore both his informal clothing style and his platform plank of linking the payment of Brazil's foreign debt to a prior thorough audit. This last point had worried economists, businessmen and banks, who feared that even a partial Brazilian default along with the existing Argentine default would have a massive ripple effect through the world economy. Lula became President after winning the second round of the 2002 election, held on 27 October, defeating the Brazilian Social Democracy Party (PSDB) candidate José Serra." How not to admire a man who came from nowhere and became president of the 10th largest economy of the world? He is not only very charismatic but a natural strategist, politician and has great diplomacy to deal with Bolivia and Venezuela. He is doing a good job. The media tries to put him down because of his bad Portuguese and little education but the country is growing and this is his best answer. He is a good example for that little boy who is in the semi arid without perspective. The president was a little boy without perspective in a dry region and he fought for his place, he created his own opportunities. If he did it other people can do it. Hard work is the secret of success. I voted for him, poor people, intellectuals voted for him. I admire him a lot. More than 30 million Brazilians left poverty and became middle class during his government. |
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| Mr.Mustard | Jan 14 2010, 08:00 PM Post #31 |
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My attitude is the attitude of someone who knows if I wasn't lucky enough to have my mum and dad to look after me I'd be left for dead by this world. So, if I can be left for dead, like I would be, then what so specail about other people that they can't. Or what's so unspecial about me that I can? Edited by Mr.Mustard, Jan 14 2010, 08:27 PM.
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| Cleo | Jan 14 2010, 08:20 PM Post #32 |
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| Mr.Mustard | Jan 14 2010, 08:22 PM Post #33 |
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Yes i am. But here i am in a room in my parents house being looked after. Life's not fair is it? When I get better i don't know how charitable I'm going to be...perhaps a bit perhaps not at all. Edited by Mr.Mustard, Jan 14 2010, 09:08 PM.
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| Cleo | Jan 14 2010, 09:09 PM Post #34 |
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| Mr.Mustard | Jan 14 2010, 09:29 PM Post #35 |
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Obviously i'll never be charitable towards you! Edited by Mr.Mustard, Jan 14 2010, 09:37 PM.
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| Cleo | Jan 14 2010, 09:43 PM Post #36 |
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I don't need yours nor anybody's charity.
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| Mr.Mustard | Jan 15 2010, 12:08 AM Post #38 |
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Next you'll be saying you care about the thousands of kids who die in Africa every day! |
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| Cleo | Jan 15 2010, 12:46 AM Post #39 |
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Thousands of kids die all around the world everyday, not only in Africa. |
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| Mr.Mustard | Jan 15 2010, 12:59 AM Post #40 |
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| Cleo | Jan 15 2010, 01:12 AM Post #41 |
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Death is as natural as life, it's out of people's control. Edited by Cleo, Jan 15 2010, 01:13 AM.
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| Mr.Mustard | Jan 15 2010, 01:28 AM Post #42 |
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Mmmh! That's what I should have said about homelessness! Edited by Mr.Mustard, Jan 15 2010, 01:29 AM.
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| Cleo | Jan 15 2010, 01:32 AM Post #43 |
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| Mr.Mustard | Jan 15 2010, 09:54 AM Post #44 |
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| JeffLynnesBeard | Jan 15 2010, 01:07 PM Post #45 |
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There are some people in life who care about those less fortunate than themselves. Then there are others who only care about them when, all of a sudden, they find themselves threatened by such circumstances or the problem comes to their doorstep. |
| ...and in the end, the love you take is equal to the love you make. | |
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| Mr.Mustard | Jan 15 2010, 01:25 PM Post #46 |
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I never saw anyone caring about me when society pressured me into getting a job and reduced me to a gibbering wreck on the pavement. It's just all too easy for people to get on with their lives even with all the suffering in the world and saying your heart goes out to them doesn't really cut the mustard for me. If you want the credit for caring make the sacrifices to help otherwise you should just stop trying to make yourselves look good and admit that it doesn't really matter that much. I've heard people say things like 'we can all do more...'. What the hell's the point of that? Must be easier to say that than 'well i'm not doing more 'cause I want to do more selfish things with my time and money. I'd rather be hated for being honest than just do what everyone else does and just come out with some self serving blather...paying lip serivse to charity. |
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