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| ogoble | May 8 2009, 08:46 PM Post #1 |
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Got this e-mail today. Don't know if this is just a hoax or real. I have noticed too that there is an increase of homosexual themes used in television today. I personally do not condemn homosexuals and accept them like everyone else. I just choose to be straight. But, that's their choice and we will all have to answer to God for our actions someday...whatever they may be. And I know I have alot to answer for myself. If the story is true, I believe the person at ABC, should have just thanked them for their reply and not made a statement that represented the ideals of everyone at ABC in their reply back to him. What do you think? Subject: ABC NEWS PLEASE READ The devil himself could not have taken a more robust stand in defense of one of his " Partners in Sin." It is frightening how open and scurrilous the evil ones can be. Now they even take over TV programs and pour out their " garbage " for anyone too ignorant to reject it. THIS IS SCARY Jim Neugent A Coach In Childress , Texas Writes To ABC Network Jim Writes: My name is Jim Neugent. I wrote to ABC (on-line) concerning a program called 'THE PRACTICE.' In last night's episode, one of the lawyer's mothers decided she is gay and wanted her son to go to court and help her get a marriage license so she could marry her 'partner.' I sent the following letter to ABC yesterday and really did not expect a reply, but I did get one. My original message was: ABC is obsessed with the subject of homosexuality. I will no longer watch any of your attempts to convince the world that homosexuality is OK. ' THE PRACTICE' can be a fairly good show, but last night's program was so typical of your agenda. You picked the 'dufus' of the office to be the one who was against the idea of his mother being gay, and made him look like a whiner because he had convictions. This type of mentality calls people like me a 'gay basher.' Read the first chapter of Romans (that's in the Bible); and see what the apostle Paul had to say about it..... He, God and Jesus were all 'gay bashers'. What if she'd fallen in love with her cocker spaniel? Is that an alternative life style? (By the way, the Bible speaks against that, too.) --Jim Neugent Here is ABC's reply from the ABC on-line webmaster: How about getting your nose out of the Bible (which is ONLY a book of stories compiled by MANY different writers hundreds of years ago) and read the declaration of independence (what our nation is built on), where it says 'All Men are Created equal,' and try treating them that way for a change! Or better yet, try thinking for yourself and stop using an archaic book of stories as your lame crutch for your existence. You are in the minority in this country, and your boycott will not affect us at ABC or our freedom of statement. Jim Neugent's second response to ABC: Thanks for your reply. From your harsh reply, evidently I hit a nerve. I will share it with all with whom I come in contact. Hopefully, the Arkansas Democrat Newspaper will include it in one of their columns and I will be praying for you. |
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| Andy | May 8 2009, 09:12 PM Post #2 |
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It's true, but it also happened 10 years ago. For what it's worth, I don't believe the employee of ABC should have responded that way (even though it wasn't an "official" reply), but I do happen to agree with the gist. Also, I do not believe that being homosexual or heterosexual is a choice, it is the way we are born. The vast majority of the medical and psychological profession share my standpoint. Snopes article Edited by Andy, May 8 2009, 09:18 PM.
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| Jacaranda | May 8 2009, 09:13 PM Post #3 |
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First of all, I will tell everyone that if you receive anything via email that seems either unbelievable, a chain email or incredibly inflammatory before you run to tell everyone you know and email the entire U.S. -- check snopes.com which very credibly examines these rumors out to see what is factual. Here is the actual story: http://www.snopes.com/politics/religion/practice.asp Basically this is an OLD email from 1999. The gist of the story is that ABC itself did not reply in this way officially, an unauthorized member of the ABC computer tech staff did. The man who made the complaint received a formal apology from the network. My question is however: what is the purpose Olen of telling us about this incident? Are we supposed to be aghast in horror at a) the rampant support of homosexuality of TV, b) the horror of ABC's insulting remarks or c) the general godlessness of American society today? Edited by Jacaranda, May 8 2009, 09:14 PM.
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| Andy | May 8 2009, 09:13 PM Post #4 |
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nb. The Snopes article also contains a further letter from ABC to the original letter writer apologising for their response. The viral e-mail you received didn't mention that, did it? |
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| Bill | May 8 2009, 10:17 PM Post #5 |
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Jesus was anything but a "gay basher." Even if you accept the premise that homosexuality is a sin that doesn't mean Jesus would turn them away. He never turned anyone away. THAT's the point! Jesus preached compassion and forgiveness. He sought out the sinners and told the preachers that they just didn't get it. The book of the Old Testament which is used to condemn homosexuality also condemns wearing clothing of differing fibres. I'm no Biblical scholar but this suggests to me that if you take Leviticus at face value that means homosexuality is as sinful as wearing a cotton/polyester blend. |
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| Bill | May 8 2009, 11:08 PM Post #6 |
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Of course, intellectual dishonesty (to put it generously) abounds on all sides. Quoting the declaration of independence - especially that passage - in defence of that particular plotline is a non-sequitur. When they wrote "all men are created equal," they meant all MEN. That's why women didn't get the vote for another 120 years (with the brief exception of New Jersey). And by "men," they of course meant white men, which is why black people were counted as 3/5 of a person and called "boy." Do we take these realities of the time to mean that the declaration of independence is bunk? Of course not! The declaration of independence was written for its time - just as the Bible was. The main difference is that people choose to take a much more progressive interpretation of the declaration of independence than was intended at the time (though perfectly in line with the spirit of the document), while both believers and non-believers, for reasons I do not understand, choose to take a regressive and hardline interpretation of the Bible which is out of line with the spirit of its teachings. |
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| Deleted User | May 9 2009, 01:20 AM Post #7 |
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I think many people still believe that "all men are created equal" meaning white men. Maybe the interpretation is progressive because it is more polite and convenient. I see more inequality than equality in Americas, just go to any McDonalds in USA to see how the society still thinks like it used to think in the past. Olen, I think you have the right to defend your beliefs as the religious person you are. I just don't know how someone else's sexual option can affect other people. Why people don't complain about the violence on TV? How can Violence be safer than Homosexuality and sex in general? USA has a big problem with sex and nude bodies. I was watching a reality show on TV and there were some girls wearing underwear and the show puts that censorship thing in their breasts and butt. They weren't naked!!! I changed the chanel and that show Snapped was showing a woman who shot the husband in his head and they showed the body of the dead man, I was very disturbed. I think people in this country feel more comfortable with violence, blood, death than with love sex, nudity. If some people still believe sex is a sin, what is homosexuality? The devil in person? What would Jesus say about homosexuality? Would he judge the gay? I don't think so. |
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| Dorfliedot | May 9 2009, 03:03 AM Post #8 |
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Jesus is about love. Not about Equal opportunity sexism. Here let me come out of the closet… I am not gay. Wait, before you cast out the first stone. It my proactive. Yes, Opinion do hurt. Especially, if you do not agree. Edited by Dorfliedot, May 9 2009, 03:05 AM.
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| FamousGroupie | May 9 2009, 07:25 AM Post #9 |
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Without turning this into a Nature vs Nurture free-for-all, I just have to say that my belief is YOU DO NOT CHOOSE TO BE GAY OR STRAIGHT Your sexuality is pre-determined just like your gender. You can't choose to be male or female, you are just one or the other. The same with homo- or heterosexuality. You're either straight or you're not. There's no choice in the matter. I don't even like the terminology, personally. By saying that a heterosexual is 'straight' implies that homosexuals are in some way bent or crooked, or not 'normal'. Just my two cents. Thanks for listening. Edited by FamousGroupie, May 9 2009, 07:26 AM.
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| Mr.Mustard | May 9 2009, 02:56 PM Post #10 |
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Brian Epsteins story proved that for me once and for all! |
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| BeatleBarb | May 9 2009, 03:23 PM Post #11 |
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I subscribe to the philosophy that human sexuality lies upon a continuum and isn't "black or white" and can change. While one might experiment or have conflicting feelings over their sexuality, it is for the most part, not a choice. Clare - I usually don't get hung up on terminology, but I agree with you on not liking the "straight" vs. "gay" label. |
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| wackadoo | May 9 2009, 11:30 PM Post #12 |
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I have a good friend who is gay. He claims he knew he was since around the age of 12. He was ridiculed and teased and even beaten up over it. He is a 54 year old man and he grew up in a time when it was not a good thing at all. My opinion is this... I think it should be encouraged by fathers and mothers to inform their children the differences between the sexes. You can encourage a child to be what you hope for them to be and that is straight. Who would want their child to go through the trama and hardships that gay people generally go through if not necessary? Children are very moldable and can be guided in the easier direction. If, after doing the guiding, a child grows up to choose that lifestyle, then I guess that is who they are and I would love them no matter what. I see little boys on the playground trying to kiss each other and I just tell them no kissing and I don't make a big deal about it. If I saw a pattern going on, I would talk to the parent and let them make the decision on how they want to deal with it. The same would be true with boy/girl kissing or girl/girl kissing. For some reason, this year, we are seeing a lot of boy/boy kissing in kindergarten. They also try to 'play' in the bathrooms and I keep an eye on that as well. If we, as adults do our part to keep children on the path of age appropriate play and supervise them properly then they are free to make their choices at the age when they are able to make responsible choices for themselves. It's just my opinion and I stand by it based on years and years of working with children.
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| FamousGroupie | May 9 2009, 11:41 PM Post #13 |
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I guess I get a little hung up on the issue because my own mother after 22 years of marriage and three children, came out and is now well-established in a lesbian relationship. She's happier now than I've ever seen her. This is what I mean by not having a choice. Mum was miserable while she was married to Dad (through no fault of Dad's, I might add) but I think she realised at an early age that she was gay. She didn't choose to leave Dad and become a lesbian. Mum struggled with it for years, and it's only now, fifteen years later, that I realise how much of a burden it was for her. |
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| Dorfliedot | May 10 2009, 01:44 AM Post #14 |
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Yes, I choose to be Gay. I have been happy since God know when. |
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| ogoble | May 10 2009, 02:50 AM Post #15 |
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I believe everyone is entitled to their own opinion. And I respect what ever choice you make Dottie.
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| Dorfliedot | May 10 2009, 04:34 AM Post #16 |
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Thanks.. I am glad you except my happiness.
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