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| Deleted User | Jan 14 2009, 08:29 PM Post #201 |
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I haven't been here for very long, but it strikes me that you have summed up the prevalent feelings of most members of this forum very well. Nicely done.
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| Aimee Wilbury | Jan 14 2009, 08:35 PM Post #202 |
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It's a huge insult to all us that contributed to the board to delete it. Basically you're saying we're not worth sh*t, that your personal feelings are more important than the well-being of a community, whether virtual or not. |
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| JeffLynnesBeard | Jan 14 2009, 09:44 PM Post #203 |
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Despite what some people may be thinking, I am reading and considering every point of view and opinion posted here. One thing is for certain, getting personal and abusive isn't going to endear anyone or their cause to me. By all means, say how you feel, but the more people p*ss me off, the less likely I'm going to feel about reaching any sort of compromise. At the moment, the status quo prevails. |
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| Rose | Jan 14 2009, 10:02 PM Post #204 |
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I don't understand why people feel its necessary to call Andy names. I guess you can just add that to the long list of things I don't understand about human behavior. I do feel like I am just repeating myself...and I know that Andy knows how I feel about this whole thing. But stop attacking him for how he feels...and lets just see if there is a way to work things out. We are adults after all... I can disagree with someone without feeling the need to hurt or humilate them... Give it a try...its not that hard to do. |
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| foolonthehill | Jan 14 2009, 10:08 PM Post #205 |
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Daww shucks... I can see this argument from all sides. But, I think Andy's mind is made up. I won't say I'm not sad. Like Emily said a few pages back, I feel like I've sort of grownup with this forum as part of the backdrop. But, I suppose letting go is part of growing up. I will miss you all and what you have to say, but I accept the loss. |
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| Merry | Jan 14 2009, 10:11 PM Post #206 |
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Absolutely, Rose! I can't understand why anyone would stoop to that sort of behavior, myself. I don''t want to become redundant either, and I think that Andy also understands the way I feel, both about him and this forum. Two subjects that are very dear to my heart, and I don't want to lose touch with either of them. I feel a glimmer of hope that a compromise can be reached, and it makes me feel better than I have all day. Lets try to work things out in a kindly manner, with love and respect for Andy and one another now...please! Merry
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| Dorfliedot | Jan 14 2009, 10:18 PM Post #207 |
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I not attacking Andy or calling him any names. I understand how he feels. However, I wish her reconcider. If not I always respect him and his opinions |
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| Aimee Wilbury | Jan 14 2009, 10:21 PM Post #208 |
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I'm very angry. Not gonna deny it. |
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| BlueMolly2009 | Jan 14 2009, 10:23 PM Post #209 |
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It upsets me that people would stoop so low to be abusive towards Andy or anyone else. People can disagree without name calling and getting personal. I have this feeling something good will happen out of this, it has to. |
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| Gary | Jan 14 2009, 10:33 PM Post #210 |
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I initially came to this forum because of Andy, having recognized leadership qualities at the official Paul forum as if he was practicing to become a steward of what we would eventually know as Strawberry Fields. He just seemed to have a charisma especially tailored for this type of medium. His wisdom of being able to converse on different levels with people by discerning their thoughts and emotions in a simplistic, mild-mannered style, with an intellectually based back-drop was compelling. But, the main thing was/is I liked him. Likability is so important. Even though I have not been as prolific at posting as some, I maintained my loyalty to this place just as Andy seemed to care for the members and took great pride in it. It was a proud place to be with such a dynamic figure as Andy at the helm. I so looked forward to doing more in the future, such as recording songs to perhaps be played on the SF Radio Show, creating newer and original threads, etc. Now, all that is hanging in the balance. |
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| Kit_Kat | Jan 14 2009, 10:35 PM Post #211 |
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I'm just really glad I had this place to come when times were tough, like when I lost my grandad and when I had Lennon. You guys were like a tribe that comes and lifts you up |
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| A day in the life | Jan 14 2009, 10:47 PM Post #212 |
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Well like I said my initial reaction was surprise, and I thought it was kinda sad. But I fear things would not be the same. If the founder feels differently about the forum they made with good intentions, well no one can really blame them or make them keep the place if they really don't want to. I don't know. So many extremes. For me, I don't want to get too deep, like with most things online. I just think that's just me trying to keep my perspective. I've obviously enjoyed posting with some people here, and I think there's been groups formed of great friends in some cases. And on the other hand perhaps we have seen not everyone is necessarily like one would think. Still, I think once things calm down there's no reason those who want to will post together again, wherever it may be. |
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| BlueMolly2009 | Jan 14 2009, 10:56 PM Post #213 |
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I think why a lot of people are upset is because they think they are being betrayed by a friend, because Andy is ripping the board without their say, and to be honest, I kind of agree. |
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| Dorfliedot | Jan 14 2009, 11:34 PM Post #214 |
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Pm.com was my home. I made this my home as well. No other board. I made home too. But, this one. |
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| ThirdHarmony | Jan 14 2009, 11:45 PM Post #215 |
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While I am truly sad to see the place go, and while I was surprised by the news, I have to say that somewhere in the back of my mind it wasn't entirely unexpected. I am not going to climb upon the barricades of discussion on whether or not this place could or should go on - I will instead focus on a couple of things which I find more important to say at this juncture: - Thank you Andy for providing us with this place for all these years. The stamina required to put up with everything that comes with such an endeavour is something I can't even begin to imagine. - Although I've been around since the days of the early "wingspan" board, I've never been much of a frequent poster, and I've never been big on delving into or participating in threads where deeply personal aspects of individual members' lives were discussed out in the open. Just never felt comfortable reading or writing about that. Nevertheless, in spite of my "semi-detatched" stance, I have been treated so kindly by the vast, vast majority of people here throughout even the most controversial topics (usually politics, science or religion). I'm truly grateful for having had several drawn-out "arguments" with some of you - sometimes enlightening, sometimes infuriating, sometimes hilarious, often thought-provoking. I think it is unlikely I will get as involved in another web forum again (though I am known to make the odd appearance on the frenz.com forum in the Crowded House section ). Life moves on in different directions for us all. In my case, I started following the forum(s) while I was still at university, living in a dorm room with ridiculous amounts of spare time. Nowadays I live in a different city, run my a business, play music with a band in what little spare time there is (www.phileas.se) and try my best to keep alive relationships with friends and loved ones spread far and wide. Time is suddenly not the commodity it once was.But I shall always have the fond memory of this place and it's weird and wonderful inhabitants. I wish each and every one of you the best in all that you do - and perhaps our paths will cross again! Please PM me if you want to exchange e-mail addresses or so. Thank you again, Andy, for all your efforts. Hope you saw the PM I sent you around New Years. ps. I know this probably won't be my final, final post, as I'm sure as soon I hit "post" I will think of more things to say... ain't that always the way? ![]() |
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| Dorfliedot | Jan 14 2009, 11:48 PM Post #216 |
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Ah, That is a great post...
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| DCBeatle64 | Jan 14 2009, 11:48 PM Post #217 |
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holy cow some people are really contradicting themselves now |
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| beatlechick | Jan 15 2009, 12:17 AM Post #218 |
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Molly, I don't like his decision to leave and take this forum with him but being that he is the owner of this place, he has every right to do just that. It's bad enough that he feels he has to but with comments like this, it's a wonder he hasn't done it already. Of course he does give a "toss" about what we are saying. Why else is he subjecting himself to comments insulting him? Like someone else has said, this is not the end of the world. Our lives will go on. I highly prefer this forum stay. It has been like a comforter, keeps you warm, cozy, and loved when you're cold, to me this past year. I don't want that comforter taken away but if it has to, it has to. |
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| beatlechick | Jan 15 2009, 12:19 AM Post #219 |
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| beatlechick | Jan 15 2009, 12:27 AM Post #220 |
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The same goes for me. With all of the family trials and tribulations that I went through this past 18 mos, coming here was a comfort. |
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| Dorfliedot | Jan 15 2009, 01:00 AM Post #221 |
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I will always be Andy's friend no matter what. im closing this board has nothing to do with our friendship. I will miss this board. and The people on it. Specailly Andy. I feel he is a great person. Just because, I don't agree with him on everything. doesn't mean I don't like him. He will alway be in my heart. Him and Fiona. |
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| DCBeatle64 | Jan 15 2009, 01:22 AM Post #222 |
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And sitting on a computer all day, that is good or actually thinking about a messageboard all day when you have a job, families or other responsibilities thats good??? Funny people are free to make choices yet apparently Andy is not when it comes to this |
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| SuperBet | Jan 15 2009, 01:25 AM Post #223 |
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IF v_count_days_not_posting_here GT 365. Write 'HELLO!!!'. ENDIF.
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| beatlechick | Jan 15 2009, 01:28 AM Post #224 |
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Thank you for that Bettina. I love Puss n Boots in Shrek, makes me smile everytime to see those eyes.
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| Rose | Jan 15 2009, 01:45 AM Post #225 |
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Dani, you know I adore the living hell outta you...but I disagree with what you have said here. You can be a member of a forum without spending all day in front of a computer. Now, I know there are exceptions to every rule...and that to some people, the internet is their life...but I have to hope the majority of people here, like me, visit this place a bit here and there..and still manage to live their 'real' life. Obviously, Andy is free to make as many choices as he likes, but this choice doesn't just affect him. And considering how I haven't felt 'connected' to this forum lately, I'm surprised by how this has hit me. |
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| Deleted User | Jan 15 2009, 01:50 AM Post #226 |
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Actually, some people wish they did have a job and a family, instead of a computer and a message board. Fortunately, I still have my chonic illness to comfort me at night...
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| BlueMolly2009 | Jan 15 2009, 01:53 AM Post #227 |
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At work, I don't do much so I surf the net. It is the thing that keeps me from falling asleep at my desk. After I get done from the stuff I'm asked to do, there isn't anything else. I'm not spending my "life on the computer." During the winter, yeah, I spend more time on the computer, because I don't like going outdoors, but when the weather is nice, I will go out for hours and enjoy the weather or do other things. I come to this place to be with friends, but sadly, that won't be the case. |
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| DCBeatle64 | Jan 15 2009, 01:55 AM Post #228 |
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I think you misunderstand me slightly. What I originally said if somebody is getting so down beaten by a messageboard or whatever then I personally think they need to move away. If its beginning to take over a persons life I dont see that as good thing. Michelle then said that I shouldn't be telling people what to do and everyone has a right to an opinion. She was contradicting herself because she said people are free to make choices which is what Andy has done, made a choice, People have a right to vent their anger but I think some people have not been the most diplomatic. Even people who in the past would have commented about tension within the messageboard have began to show a different side... I do know people are upset but thats the impression I am getting from the whole thing |
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| Rose | Jan 15 2009, 02:07 AM Post #229 |
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Well...thanks for clearing that up. I guess I didn't see all of the back and forth. I can be pretty clueless sometimes...is there any doubt when you were in fact the person who told me about this whole drama? Haha. |
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| DCBeatle64 | Jan 15 2009, 02:11 AM Post #230 |
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No worries... I cant have people who normally agree with me disagreeing.I'll just be lost It is to easy to miss out on wee bits Edited by DCBeatle64, Jan 15 2009, 02:24 AM.
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| ogoble | Jan 15 2009, 04:15 AM Post #231 |
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Will I be able to transfer my post totals to a new forum board out there somewheres?Also, will my points on "Tenuous Links" carry over to the new board, if one is created? ...just wondering.
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| Dorfliedot | Jan 15 2009, 06:28 AM Post #232 |
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| Deleted User | Jan 15 2009, 06:48 AM Post #233 |
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That's super cool Dotty!
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| Dorfliedot | Jan 15 2009, 06:56 AM Post #234 |
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| fab4fan | Jan 15 2009, 08:24 AM Post #235 |
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What new Andy, I don't agree with you. I have to say that I'm on board with Bill, Rose and Irene. But unlike some others (not the 3 people I listed) I'm not going to berate you for your decision. I'm interested in hearing what that teeny weeny window of compromise that you alluded to was all about. When PM.com went down and this place was hatched I migrated because of Bill and you. I feel I'm a much better person for having 'known' you. (Jury is still out on the Wonthaggite.) Along the way there were many others that I feel blessed to have read and interacted with on here. With my girls growing up time has become an even more valuable commodity. I post less frequently because there just isn't enough time in the day. (It's 2 am right now.) But rare is the night where I don't at least check in and read what's happening. Posts totals ebb and flow. I have no doubt if you do close it down some of us will hook up elsewhere. But a great many of us will forever be lost if this home is terminated. Give it some more thought my good man, will you? If this comes to pass I promise to go out with a bang. I will make it to 2000 posts (quality, not quantity ). The Lissa/Mia/Adilah/Rev Dave mystery will be resolved - maybe even by this time tomorrow. (Dr Loulmet, I presume ) And I'm sure the Thank You President George W Bush thread that I'm planning for Tuesday will be a post paradise. If alas, this is the end, I'm going out with my best avatar and my best signature. PEACE BRO! |
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| theonlyfab4fan | Jan 15 2009, 10:57 AM Post #236 |
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Wow!! I have so much to say but don`t feel the least bit inclined to be diplomatic so will just sit on my fingers. There is nothing worse than watching a kid fling a temper tantrum in public. In my experience as a parent, the less attention you pay to your childs negative behavior the quicker it will go away. |
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| Dorfliedot | Jan 15 2009, 11:11 AM Post #237 |
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Sometimes, we do not know how others are really feeling behind a computer. We do not know If we hurt someone feelings or made them laugh or cry. In addition, we do not know if someone is having a good day or a bad day. We only know what is being written on the board… None of us really knows what Andy is feeling. We can only visualize, sometimes, we are not all ways accurate on that. Only thing we can do is be optimistic that Andy might change his mind about deleting the board. What ever his decision is, I will always feel the same about him. He still be my friend and like a brother to me. What ever he does, I hope it makes him happy. That all I can do is wish. |
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| Bill | Jan 15 2009, 11:23 AM Post #238 |
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| LadyMacca | Jan 15 2009, 01:11 PM Post #239 |
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This is going to sound odd.. but this whole thing still doesn't feel real, are you sure this isn't some sort of sick joke?
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| maccascruff | Jan 15 2009, 02:36 PM Post #240 |
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| fab4fan | Jan 15 2009, 03:25 PM Post #241 |
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Two things I forgot last night in my post. (((Clare))), in case you don't realize it the majority of us on here appreciate you and LOVE you! Thank you for all you have done and good on you for not letting the b*stards get you down! The second is a bit tricky. I'm defintely not trying to step in the middle of the artistic differences of Andy and Lisa, nor do we need a further explanation of the issue. But when I voted for Jacaranda as boardie of the year it was precisely because of the wonderful job I felt she did in keeping things going when Andy took his sabbatical. (That's not to say if I had been one of the fortunate ones to experience Jayne's hospitality in Liverpool that I wouldn't have voted for her. )
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| fab4fan | Jan 15 2009, 03:40 PM Post #242 |
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Hello Padre!!!!!! Hurry up and post so I can go to work!!!!!
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| pood for paul | Jan 15 2009, 03:51 PM Post #243 |
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| SherryO | Jan 15 2009, 04:10 PM Post #244 |
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I'm sorry that this place is coming to an end. But, I enjoyed the time that I did spend here, & have met some really awesome people! You never know, we could meet up on another forum! Us Beatle-y people don't spread out too far, do we? I'm hoping that a lack of support from members isn't part of the problem. I've had a really rough ride over the past 4 months, & I'm just finding my feet again. So, I pop in, & find out that SF is closing! Oh my. Well, if any of you want to contact me, I am on Facebook, & my e-mail is slo-1@telus.net. Thanks for a great ride, Andy! It's been a hoot! Good luck to you, & Fiona in the future! Best wishes to all, & to all, a big HUG! Cheers! |
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| Reverend Dave | Jan 15 2009, 04:28 PM Post #246 |
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This is the first thing I saw when I logged on today and I've just finished reading most of the 17 pages. I'm surprised, shocked really, but we have to respect Andy's decision. He's done a thankless job for a few years now and if he wants to move on we should wish him well. It sounds like this place is making his life worse, not better. That's terrible. No website should do that to someone. Andy, I want to thank you and Fiona for creating this place. I've met some amazing people here and I know others have too. Those of us who know each other can still stay in touch and as Andy's repeated several times, if anyone wants to start another site they easily can. I also want to thank Bill and Clare for being incredible moderators. I'm sure the others have done a great job too, but I've only dealt with Bill and Clare. Since this may easily be the last time I visit here I also want to thank all of you who have shown caring and compassion to one another. That's a rare thing in life and even more rare online. |
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I do have my 81-year-old father to take care of and my brother and his wife and three children are coming down tomorrow for the weekend. Then there is my Uncle Norman that I rarely ever see, but that's about it. I have tried to get a job over the past year, but was thwarted by being disabled since 1991 and the Recession, plus I am now too old to deal drugs or become a male prostitute. Edited to say: I also broke up for good with my girlfriend of four years last week after not seeing her for 20 days over Christmas, but that's a good thing!
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| Dorfliedot | Jan 15 2009, 06:09 PM Post #250 |
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<---Where is the fly swatter.And, think I don't believe in killing bugs. However, that one is bugging me. Lee one. I like to thank the Mods. I think they all did a great job. I like Thank Andy for creating this board. I like Thank the member for thier sopport and understanding. Edited by Dorfliedot, Jan 15 2009, 06:10 PM.
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| Deleted User | Jan 15 2009, 06:12 PM Post #251 |
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I just want to say Thank you Andy. It's not a bad idea closing the board. Real friends will always be in touch with each other, it doesn't matter if the board is closed or not. Those people who tell you "I'm your friend" and don't show friendship with actions just with words will finally disappear and that's what I want, real friends in my life not fake people full of prejudices and masked. A new board could bring different people. Fresh renewed air is always good.
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I appreciate this board Andy and all you must have done for it. I was just thinking you graph looks a lot like the economy and I wonder if less people have time to mess around on message boards? I also wonder, and don't get me wrong, I am a Beatlemaniac, but I wonder how sustainable the subject matter can be? How much new can be said about a band that split almost 40 years ago? But then again, I'll probably be here till the last and may check out a new board if this ends and another begins. |
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These are two incredibly shocking stabs in the back. I'm surprised that anyone here would be so arrogant and presumptuous as to claim to understand Andy's feelings better than he does. I have been living with the man the whole time this board has been alive and I have watched the emotions, sensed the stress and had the pep talks. Andy is taking the difficult decision here, not the easy one. He has already explained that he has already left this board once but it never left him. He'll never be 'just a member' like he truly wants on this forum. What is the issue with setting up a twin site and inviting everyone over? Some people may be happy for Andy to swallow his feelings 'for the good of the board' and go on merrily posting but I, for one, would not be. This is not Paul McCartney's official message board. This is not even an official message board. Starting again on the internet is quite easy. Believe me. |
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Well, I'm afraid I don't know the ins and outs. I woke up one morning to this. Andy had spoken a lot about the possibility recently but I never expected it to happen. I believe the members are being considered a great deal (you guys make it hard to do anything else ) but I'm afraid that fact cannot move mountains. I have no less reason to miss this place than anyone else. I have felt a (albeit distant) connection with it from day one. But I kind of have the feeling that, if you so chose, you would see every last one of these people again. |
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I don't know why people can't respect Andy's decision. This board was created due to problems on the Macca board so why can't someone else take responsibility and let all those interested know that someone has created a new board. Having read some of these messages and what I briefly saw on Facebook last night I thought was extremely rude which to me highlights some of the problems Andy had to deal with. |
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I'm not even going to lie, I am so bitterly disappointed with how this was handled. Originally I had thought this was a collective decision of all the mods, but quite obviously it is not. I can't help but think things could have come out differently. Workds cannot even replace the hole I felt inside of me when I first learned of the fate of this place of such joy, that brought me so much happiness and even better friends. This message board is the sole reason that I went to England last year and I can't help but think of my utter dissatisfaction that because of a few members very poor choices with it, we all have to suffer. It was always (and the only) place I could come to chat all things Beatles, Paul (& Dhani) alike and now even the simple fun in that has gone. Petty arguments have gotten us nowhere and it is absolutely beartbreaking to think that over 40 years ago it all began with one message: Peace & Love; which has so blatently turned to hate and misunderstanding. So sad indeed. We all came together for our universal love of those 4 talented lads from Liverpool. What happened?!? I know this is just a message board, but to me it's so much more. I met loads of fantastic people from here and many of them have become like family to me, and it feels as though we are being punished so very unfairly. This is no ones fault, but everyones fault at the same time. I am in such shock I can't even think straight. So I guess all I can say a big thanks to everyone for the tears, the happiness, the anger and chats, it was most fabulous knowing you all. Especially meeting everyone in Liverpool. My god that was brilliant fun, and I can't even believe we won't get the chance to do it again. I'll just have to tough it out alone this August. George couldn't have written truer words; all things must pass, and maybe its for the better because for me the thrill left many months ago. The Beatles lied to us, Love isn't all we need because I've got plenty of that yet things still go wrong. So sad to think that we couldn't even give peace a chance...
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According to the SF Bible: Genisis 1:1 In the beginning, Andy created the SF board... Genesis 6:5-7 5 The Andy saw how great man's wickedness on the earth had become, and that every inclination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil all the time. 6 The Andy was grieved that he had made SF on the earth, and his heart was filled with pain. 7 So the Andy said, "I will wipe out SF, whom I have created, from the face of the earth—men and animals, and creatures that move along the ground, and birds of the air—for I am grieved that I have made them." |
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| Merry | Jan 15 2009, 09:45 PM Post #262 |
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LOL. I was thinking the same thing earlier today Olen. I was going to make a Noahs ark thread in order to save all the righteous, then I realized that boat would never sail. ( Since none of us are.) So how about a carnival cruise ship party instead Fiona, at least my earlier post had one positive aspect. It brought you out of the woodwork. You have been sorely missed. |
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| Dorfliedot | Jan 15 2009, 10:05 PM Post #264 |
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| Rose | Jan 15 2009, 10:14 PM Post #265 |
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How frustrating. To me, this has nothing to do with respecting Andy's feelings. I do. But isn't there mutual respect here? I have always thought so. Now, the personal attacks that have been directed at Andy are pathetic...and Andy doesn't deserve it. I'm kinda tired of people telling me how to feel, how to react...what I should be doing with my life. Total bullsh*t. I'm sorry beyond belief that Andy and the other Mods have had to endure verbal attacks from members of this board who can't seem to figure out how to get along with other people in a peaceful manner. Do you think I like everyone here? If you have read any of my sarcastic posts, you know the answer. But never once in the 3 years on this board have I gone whining and bitching to Andy or any of the other mods about someone elses behavior. It irritates me that the bullsh*t level has gotten to this level. It's no wonder Andy wants to leave... But let me stress (again, I know) that throwing out the baby with the bath water (and I'm not even sure that fits in this situation, but I'm gonna go with it) is the right thing to do. I love this place. I adore quite a few people here. And I don't see a GOOD reason to destroy it. Yes, there is no doubt who the founder and 'boss' of this forum is. But don't we...as members...as FRIENDS...have anything to say about it? I hope so. But that being said. No matter what Andy decides. No matter my personal feelings about the outcome of this forum...I will always consider Andy a real FRIEND. I hope you know that Andy. |
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| Dorfliedot | Jan 15 2009, 10:17 PM Post #266 |
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You know why you haven't none one have turn on you yet. other wise I think you would. or, should put it better perhaps would. Only time I complain I was worried about saying something that have me kick off the board. I can say things at times without thinking. And, regret it later. Edited by Dorfliedot, Jan 15 2009, 10:22 PM.
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| Rose | Jan 15 2009, 10:26 PM Post #267 |
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Actually, you are wrong. You don't think I've had some conflict in my 3 years on this board? You honestly believe that I am that easy going and sweet that I never get annoyed with anyone here, or that no one gets annoyed with me? The thing is, it's pretty easy to handle these kind of trivial matters all by yourself. And let's face it, in the grand scheme of life...silly online drama matters little. It's easy to just not respond to someone...or just totally ignore them all together. Besides the fact, I never thought anything was so traumatic that I had to go running to a Mod to fix it for me. I'm quite capable of handling it myself. |
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| Dorfliedot | Jan 15 2009, 10:30 PM Post #268 |
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To be honest rose. No, I never seen you have major conflict on this board. As for being sweet. I don't think anyone is to sweet not have moment at one time or another.we all have our breaking points. Edited by Dorfliedot, Jan 15 2009, 10:36 PM.
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| Rose | Jan 15 2009, 10:36 PM Post #269 |
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Dotty...the reason you haven't seen me have conflict on this board...is because I don't. There isn't anything worthwhile to fight about here. Seriously. There isn't anyone that can push my buttons enough to where I am going to totally lose it and run to a Mod for protection. I'll be damned if I would let anyone have that kind of control over my time on this forum. That's not to say that I don't care about some of the people here...I do. But those aren't the ones that I find irritating in the first place. As for the 'sweet' comment...I was being...a wee bit sarcastic. I honestly doubt anyone views me as 'sweet' at all. And I'm actually OK with that
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| Bill | Jan 15 2009, 10:45 PM Post #270 |
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| Dorfliedot | Jan 15 2009, 10:53 PM Post #271 |
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Actually, I do like you. I do think you are nice person. However, I do think you can have your moments. Some people are easy going and do not take things to lightly. Other, take things more to a stream. If we were made all the same we would not be so, unique. Believe me, I have calm down from first time I came to the boards. Pm.com was my trump. I out come some my disabilities on the board. Spelling and writing I have accomplished enough I think for others to know what mostly I am thinking. My self-esteem has raised a lot from couragement of others on this board. Which I will miss a lot of you dearly. I thank those who PM me to tell me about my mistakes. Instead, making fun them. Those people I call special. That is .. Bill and, queen bee. I am forever grateful. Also, like to thank Irene who made me feel special at times too. Edited by Dorfliedot, Jan 15 2009, 10:55 PM.
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| Rose | Jan 15 2009, 11:04 PM Post #272 |
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Dotty, I have always liked you too...you have a unique sense of humor that I have found adorable. I think you do just fine with your spelling and writing, too. |
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| Dorfliedot | Jan 15 2009, 11:06 PM Post #273 |
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| Queenbee | Jan 15 2009, 11:21 PM Post #274 |
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| Dorfliedot | Jan 15 2009, 11:22 PM Post #275 |
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| Mindy | Jan 15 2009, 11:46 PM Post #276 |
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I know I am still fairly new to this board, and perhaps it's not my place to post this. But it seems Andy has made up his mind, and nothing we say is going to sway him. I haven't known him very long, but from what I know of him, I think it's unfair for people to call him selfish and coldhearted, when he doesn't seem to be that way at all. Even if this particular Zetaboard is shut down, there is absolutely no reason why someone can't create a new Strawberry Fields. However, it seems that nobody here is willing to take the initiative and start over where Andy left off. Creating a message board it quite simple, it only takes a matter of minutes to set up. Maintaining one is a bit of work, but that's what mods are for, to help keep things running smoothly. I'd like to see Strawberry Fields and the Radio show continue, I would like the opportunity to get to know all of you better. Perhaps a fresh start is what this forum needs? |
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| Kit_Kat | Jan 16 2009, 12:44 AM Post #278 |
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| Beatlesaholic | Jan 16 2009, 12:52 AM Post #279 |
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| Dorfliedot | Jan 16 2009, 01:04 AM Post #280 |
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Ah! I like you too. I hope we be able to keep this place. I going to prey.. I know, I will miss you.
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| Kit_Kat | Jan 16 2009, 01:08 AM Post #281 |
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| Mindy | Jan 16 2009, 01:12 AM Post #282 |
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| Dorfliedot | Jan 16 2009, 01:30 AM Post #283 |
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| manon | Jan 16 2009, 03:19 AM Post #284 |
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I've read all the thread before posting a comment. I enjoyed being member of this board. For me it was a hobby. A hobby I share with some nice virtual friends. I always participate on the threads I liked and just ignore other threads or other posts. But I think it is really more serious for some members. So if it disappear, it will be sad for me but I will survive. I understand Andy can have enough of it. I don't know what is the job to be administrator of a forum. It is his rights. I don't understand why he can't leave and let someone else take the command if it is the desire of some. (I've read the explanations but don't understand.) Why destroye what had been built ? Why start another forum when this one is there and please many people ? Anyway, if ever it really close, I want to say thank you to all the admins and moderatorsn for the pleasure I had here. And I hope there will be a way to stay in touch. Au revoir! |
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| beatlechick | Jan 16 2009, 03:35 AM Post #285 |
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Stand in line, toots. We have already started that discussion! Fiona, while I don't like the bickering of some stating temper tantrum et al, I do sort of understand why they are saying what they are saying. In a way, you can take it as a compliment in showing that we really don't want THIS board to go away. We are sure that this is an emotional time for Andy but you can also be assured that this is also an emotional time for us. I do have to agree, though, that there could be a more tactful way of expressing our feelings and not be adding to the stress in your household. For all of us, we just need to take the time to take a deep breath and let it out slowly. Life changes but life goes on. I don't want this board to go away either! |
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| beatlechick | Jan 16 2009, 03:40 AM Post #286 |
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| beatlechick | Jan 16 2009, 03:42 AM Post #287 |
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| Mindy | Jan 16 2009, 03:52 AM Post #288 |
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Aimee posted in her thread Strawberry Fields the second, that she would be willing to start a new forum as well. It's really up to the members of this forum. I think some are still hoping that Andy will reconsider, and leave someone else to take over this board. But from what I've read, he sounds very certain that he wants to close this board, and would rather we start over new. I see no reason why the spirit of this board need to end, or why members who've grown close need to lose touch. Maybe for some the magic and fun is gone, but for others there still seems to be a lot of enjoyment and a great sense of community and friendship, and it would be a shame to lose that. |
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| Dorfliedot | Jan 16 2009, 04:03 AM Post #289 |
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I do wonder what broke the camel back for Andy to want to close the board down. It does not make since to me. However, it does to him. I guess, we may never know the answer. All we can do is respect he is decision and move on. Even though I will miss a lot of you. I have very saddened it coming to this. I cannot really explain what I am feeling. Because, I not sure. What I am actually feeling. Mix feeling. I had those growing up. You know it like leaving a home. You don’t want to go. However, had no choice? .So, you have to move on to another. I am not saying this is real life. Because, no way the pain of moving to one home to another campare to it. However, it can still hurt all the same.P.s. I like thank Lisa for being a great admin. And, Clair and Irene, and other Mods for a great job they did keeping this place together. |
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| beatlespud | Jan 16 2009, 04:54 AM Post #290 |
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I admit I'm disappointed that the board will be coming down. This board helped me through some rough times when I lost my dad and my brother... No disrespect tp my dear friend Sarah but I don't think I'd been consoled as well at PM.com as I was here... That being said, I can't get angry at Andy being this is his creation and it's his to do as he sees fit... if someone does create a new board I'll probably post once in blue moon like I do here.... LOL Dean |
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Well, f*ck. I'm glad I got forewarned about this (thankyou, Bill) because I am not happy. I've had a few days after the news to digest it and let me say I am still being very very restrained here, because I am mightily p*ssed off. I predicted implosion to certain people, but never did I think that you, Andy, would pull the plug. I love you like a brother mate, but seriously, what are you thinking? Got sick of it, so decided to take your bat and ball and go home? I understand how much this place can stress you out at times, but is that any reason to kick us all out and lock the doors? You're known as the Creator around here - but you are not the be all and end all. You say that if Strawberry Fields still existed, you would still be obliged to keep checking the place out. Sorry to have to break it to you, buddy, but that's your issue. Not ours. Anyway, if someone did set up another SF forum, what's stopping you checking the new place out too? Self control, that's all it takes. I have been a Moderator here from almost day one. I was the original moderator, and I do admit that I haven't always seemed to be the popular choice. The abuse and insults I've dealt with from members here haven't been deserved, and in some cases, not even provoked. But for me, it's water off a duck's back. I don't sugar coat my opinions and I don't sugar coat any reprimands. I'm not apologising for that. I'm not asking you to apologise and carry on with something that you don't want to do any more. Just hand it over and move on. Fiona did that with minimal fuss - but you have to take the whole board with you. I've put almost three years of my life into this place, and now it's being taken away without so much as a by-your-leave. That just sucks. Do what you have to do Andy, Strawberry Fields will carry on without you. Only now, you'll be known as the guy who turned on us and threw us out. Having had my say, I wish you all the best with your future endeavours. Love Clare |
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You know what, Clare? I like you alot- you appear to tell it like it is. No b.s. sugar coating about you. Sorry you didn't know prior to "us" knowing. Seems only right that you and the other mods should have been in on this one . That sort of does suck. |
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well, I like clair too. however, I not going think differnt of Andy. I jsut want him to be happy. I hope this isn't over me disagreeing with him about Harry.. Edited by Dorfliedot, Jan 16 2009, 09:38 AM.
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| FamousGroupie | Jan 16 2009, 09:38 AM Post #295 |
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| Dorfliedot | Jan 16 2009, 09:43 AM Post #296 |
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| DCBeatle64 | Jan 16 2009, 10:58 AM Post #297 |
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I'm not unhappy about it so thats 299... Get Over it, move on. Get another hobby or something. Some people are reacting with the their own temper tantrums because something is being taken away from them. I dont get why people are being deluded. This board has changed and its the members which have changed it from a Beatles board to well whatever sh*t people decided to talk about. If people really want to chat then there are other means. This does not have to mean the end. I'm just glad I can still talk to the people I want to and not the idiots I dont want to... Don't deny it, its prob a positive factor for a lot f you |
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Dani, you get over it and I thought you said goodbye earlier in another thread?
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oh goody, I knew I could rely on somebody to over react.... I am over it, I am moving on. My Goodbye thread if you would read properly was so I could move on in terms of ensuring that everyone I wanted to stay in contact with or they wanted to stay in contact with me could pass that on. I'm not gone until Monday I'm sorry I dont agree with a large chunk of you, but its people like you Molly that I'm saying this to |
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