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| Tweet Topic Started: Jan 14 2009, 12:06 AM (4,249 Views) | |
| JeffLynnesBeard | Jan 14 2009, 12:06 AM Post #1 |
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Strawberry Fields To Close At The End Of January, 2009 I'm giving you all a couple of weeks notice so that you can save anything you want to save and exchange details/create new forums/do whatever you want to do. This forum has done well pretty much all of the time it has been in existence, but, quite recently, there has been something not quite right. I'm not sure if familiarity has bred contempt for many people or if this place has been going on for so long now that everyone has had a chance to argue with everyone else. The sparkle has gone, the magic has gone, quite a few friendships have gone and, as all things must pass, it is time for Strawberry Fields to be gone. I know myself well enough to know that if I passed the forum onto someone else, then I would eventually come back to it. That's not going to happen this time, I'm afraid. Unfortunately, this forum is my responsibility and always will be so long as it is in existence and I don't want that responsibility any longer and I would rather close the doors now rather than waiting for the tumbleweed. The place is now closed to new members as from today. Thank you to everyone who has been part of this place, members and staff alike. From this moment on, you're all members and this forum will now be unmoderated until this place closes at the end of the day on January 31st, 2009 - please try to stick to the forum rules, anyway - it'll save a lot of upset. I will, however, still remove any libelous or offensive material as I am personally answerable for forum content. Sorry for any disappointment - Strawberry Fields isn't forever: The dream is over. |
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| Kit_Kat | Jan 14 2009, 12:19 AM Post #2 |
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| mspeel 007 | Jan 14 2009, 12:20 AM Post #3 |
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This is the first place I go to when I wake up in the morning!!!!!!!
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| Colin | Jan 14 2009, 12:27 AM Post #4 |
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Does that mean we have to go back to PM.com? |
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| Merry | Jan 14 2009, 12:30 AM Post #5 |
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Andy, I just don't know what to say, I'm left speechless! I sincerely hope that you will reconsider your statement and keep our forum together rather than pulling the plug. This place has meant a great deal to us, personally as well as a gathering place for friends. To take it away from us now is cruel, and on such short notice is even worse. I just can't imagine that you would seriously contemplate such a thing! I don't know how many arguments have arisen among the members, but when you have a gathering of people anywhere, you're bound to have disagreements, it's just human nature. You know we love you and Fiona, as well as this forum. Please remember how much it has and does mean to us, and we'd be crushed if we didn't have 'Strawberry Fields' to visit anymore. Think about it please and reconsider! Merry
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| JeffLynnesBeard | Jan 14 2009, 12:33 AM Post #6 |
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Sorry folks, it's not a joke, it is for real. No, you don't have to go back to pm.com, Colin - you can go anywhere you like. I hope that giving you all a couple of weeks will be long enough so that all of the groups of friends can decide where they want to go. Perhaps some industrious person will create a new home which the majority of you will settle in, but life will go on. This is, after all, just a Beatles message board. ![]() I will miss many of you, but there are certain aspects of running and being part of this place I won't miss. |
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| DCBeatle64 | Jan 14 2009, 12:34 AM Post #7 |
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I just want to actually thank Andy for starting it in the first place and having it for so long. I do believe he is a good guy and on a personal level this place has allowed me to meet people I may never have met and I am very grateful for that. I hope some of us can remain friends and see each other at Paul events or whatever. If Andy feels this is the best thing for him then I am pretty happy and I completely understand |
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| Mindy | Jan 14 2009, 12:41 AM Post #8 |
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Well, this is really really disappointing. I've grown to like this place quite a bit, and I enjoy Strawberry Fields Radio. I check in every day. I haven't been here all that long, so I don't know what magic is gone, what friendships have ended, or what's missing. Sorry the new members aren't enough to keep this place going. If anyone would like to keep in touch with me, I have Myspace www.myspace.com/minnietigerlily and my full name is Mindy Johnson if you use Facebook. Edited by Mindy, Jan 14 2009, 01:28 AM.
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| JeffLynnesBeard | Jan 14 2009, 12:41 AM Post #9 |
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Merry, I think you know how I feel about you - and Gary. I love you both. I know that this place is special to you, but you've had your ups and downs here just like everybody else. There have been a series of events here recently which have It has to be said that the forum today just doesn't have the same feel as it did a couple of years ago. It's jaded. We're jaded. I'm truly sorry you see this as being cruel, but we have reached the limit of what an amateur Beatles forum can achieve. This is a new year, time for a shake-up and a change to the old habits and meeting places. Personally, I'm really very tired of losing friends because I have tried to do the right thing for the forum, but I've lost count of the amount of times people have left me what can only be described as rude messages in my PM box. I do have a thick skin, but I also have lots of other things going on in my life and Strawberry Fields is a distraction I don't need. Simply put, my heart isn't in it anymore and yet I can't hand it over to someone else, because I have done that before and I couldn't help but want to be part of something I created. It does seem sad that I'm closing this place down because of a personal inability to walk away, but at least I recognise that in myself. You know, rather than being the end, this could be the start of something wonderful. See it as an opportunity to do something different.
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| Aimee Wilbury | Jan 14 2009, 12:41 AM Post #10 |
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Is it being deleted? Can you give it to someone else? I'd take over but I'd end up running it into the griound. If these answers already questioned, sorry, I can't read too good right now, the head is lightheaded . Edited by Aimee Wilbury, Jan 14 2009, 12:43 AM.
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| JeffLynnesBeard | Jan 14 2009, 12:43 AM Post #11 |
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Will it be deleted? Eventually, yes. Can I give it to someone else - no. See my reply to Merry, above. |
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| Aimee Wilbury | Jan 14 2009, 12:44 AM Post #12 |
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Maybe one of us can create Strawberry Fields the Second. |
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| JeffLynnesBeard | Jan 14 2009, 12:44 AM Post #13 |
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Thank you, Dani. I really appreciate what you've said. |
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| JeffLynnesBeard | Jan 14 2009, 12:46 AM Post #14 |
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Hi Mindy, I'm sorry you didn't find this place sooner and we didn't know each other for longer. You're a very cool person. There's no reason to assume that Strawberry Fields Radio will end. That is Bill's project and he could keep it going, despite the closure of this forum. I hope he does, it's great. Certainly one of the best things about this place. As I said, I'm sure there is a possibility that someone will create a new message board for the majority to "live" and Bill may continue his radio show there. That's for him to consider and answer, obviously. |
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| SuperBet | Jan 14 2009, 12:47 AM Post #15 |
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| Aimee Wilbury | Jan 14 2009, 12:52 AM Post #16 |
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when bad things hapen, they happen all at once ugh, horrible headache. exactly! unless its the placebo effect. or something else. i cant think, Edited by Aimee Wilbury, Jan 14 2009, 12:53 AM.
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| Deleted User | Jan 14 2009, 12:53 AM Post #17 |
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Andy, I certainly hope that over the course of the next couple of weeks you will reconsider. You have assembled an amazing group of people from all around the world with a mutual love of music, The Beatles, Paul McCartney and many other things. I feel as though you may be letting a few recent petty squabbles interfere with your normally perfect outlook and it might be best if you took a few steps backwards to get a more objective view of what you are doing to the lives of several hundred loyal members of Strawberry Fields. I realize that some of my recent threads on PETA and offensive terms, along with my banter on the Good Zoo, Bad Zoo thread may have incited some of the contempt that you now feel has taken over the forum, but I would be more than happy to stop posting or even leave the forum if you think that would help to restore balance to this incredible home that you and Fiona have helped create for so many good, kind, loving people who would be lost, internet-wise, without Strawberry Fields. At the very least, you might consider taking an extended vacation to clear your head and give people, such as myself, time to re-evaluate some of the untoward behavior that you have noticed. I am certain there are several very capable people, such as Lisa, Bill, FamousGroupie and others that could handle moderation and Administration while you take a break. At any rate, whatever you decide to do, I want to thank you, Fiona and the rest of the Moderation team for creating one of the best places on the internet to kick back and put my feet up every day. If I played any part in your decision I am truly sorry. Sincerely, Lapislee |
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| DCBeatle64 | Jan 14 2009, 12:55 AM Post #18 |
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Listen guys, I know it sucks, but change doesnt need to be a bad thing. I certainly would not like to have had the role Andy has had. There has been some major heated discussion (which I cant deny I have sometimes myself been involved in) it from the start it has changed and has become more quiet. I'm sure like the rest of us Andy has a life. There are other ways we can spend our time yeah. Lets be positive about this |
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| Aimee Wilbury | Jan 14 2009, 12:57 AM Post #19 |
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could someone please get the internet archive to archive it. dammit, i cant think. |
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| SuperBet | Jan 14 2009, 12:58 AM Post #20 |
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| Aimee Wilbury | Jan 14 2009, 01:00 AM Post #21 |
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ok, so i sent the link to the archive. the bot will be coming through in a few days. o keep it for nostalgia if not anything else. the form was here (no need to fill it out again) http://www.alexa.com/site/help/webmasters#crawl_site Edited by Aimee Wilbury, Jan 14 2009, 01:00 AM.
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| Deleted User | Jan 14 2009, 01:00 AM Post #22 |
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I respect your decision but because you don't like the forum anymore people will have to be sacrificed? It sounds selfish in my opinion because you're just thinking about yourself, you're not thinking about the family we became and that many of us will not be in touch anymore because the board will close. I think is a selfish decision and you should give the board to Jacaranda, she is one of the administrators. I won't lie, I'm disappointed with your decision but if you think what you're doing is the best for all go ahead. We will just lose not only the community and the sense of it but we will lose the radio too because the radio just makes sense with the board. If someone would like to keep in touch I'm on facebook and I hope we can organize our Liverpool meet up there because returning to PM.com is a retrograde step for me. http://www.facebook.com/home.php?#/profile.php?id=1060657813&ref=profile My full name is Michelle Passos de Nassau in case the link don't work. All the best for all Sincerely Michelle
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| Aimee Wilbury | Jan 14 2009, 01:01 AM Post #23 |
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if anyone wants to keep in contact, my email is aimeeandbeatles@gmail.com It's the best way to contact me. |
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| JeffLynnesBeard | Jan 14 2009, 01:03 AM Post #24 |
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Lee, That is very gracious of you, but I think you have overestimated your own importance in me reaching this decision... and I mean that in the nicest possible way. I have been doing this for over three years now. That's quite a while in anybody's life and all I can say is that the last couple of months have contributed to, but not formed, my opinion on this matter. You are right, there are some absolutely wonderful people on this forum and they'll go on existing and contributing somewhere after this message board has gone. I realise this decision may be unpopular and it may seem unfair that one person can decide to take away something from hundreds of people but that's just the way it goes. It had to end some day - that day just happens to be February 1st, 2009. |
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| Deleted User | Jan 14 2009, 01:03 AM Post #25 |
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How to be positive about it? It's hard to get this sense of community anywhere. We have it here. We have our differences but there's chemistry. I think you all know my position, I should quit talking before I talk too much and hurt someone. |
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| Aimee Wilbury | Jan 14 2009, 01:05 AM Post #26 |
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ok, made mistake, the bot should be coming through within maybe the next 8 weeks. as long as you dont delete it right away it should be fine you said to save anything we want to keep. i want to keep everything. this is the best way to do it |
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| Bag O' Nails | Jan 14 2009, 01:07 AM Post #27 |
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| DCBeatle64 | Jan 14 2009, 01:08 AM Post #28 |
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Be positive in the sense that we have had somewhere to talk for the last 3 years, that we have chatted to people we may like that we wouldnt have elsewhere, met people that we can call friends that may never have happened before. I managed to keep in touch with so many people without coming here that I wouldn't have known if I hadn't joined this board. There is no point saying this is a bad decision. Lets just move on and if there are people who you like then that doesnt need to be lost... All things must pass |
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| JeffLynnesBeard | Jan 14 2009, 01:11 AM Post #29 |
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Michelle, There is truth in what you say - there is an element of selfishness in all of this, but Fiona and I created this board and, although she didn't announce it, she left here a long time ago. I'm sure people noticed. I'm not in a position to give this board to anyone for the reasons I have stated and I'm sad to say that Lisa (Jacaranda) and I are really not seeing eye-to-eye at the moment. It's really quite simple - all someone has to do is to create a forum of their own, get the majority of the members there and you have there what you had here, only with a fresh start and without my involvement. I shouldn't feel any pressure to give this particular forum up to anyone and I shouldn't feel any pressure to carry this forum on. I'm sorry you're disappointed and, to be honest, I expected some people to be annoyed with me so it is no shock, but it is my decision to make. Sometimes you rent a home that you really love and feel aggrieved that the landlord wants to sell it and asks you to move out. It's an upheaval, but it is the landlord's prerogative - and I'm sure that you will all find a new home that you will love, equally, if not more. Perhaps with a less grumpy landlord?
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| kink | Jan 14 2009, 01:12 AM Post #30 |
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| Deleted User | Jan 14 2009, 01:14 AM Post #31 |
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It's a bad decision in my opinion, excuse me? If you managed to keep in touch with people without coming here good for you. People are not you. I'm upset!
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| Kit_Kat | Jan 14 2009, 01:15 AM Post #32 |
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| Aimee Wilbury | Jan 14 2009, 01:15 AM Post #33 |
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| DCBeatle64 | Jan 14 2009, 01:16 AM Post #34 |
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life does go on people... I have to say this isn't the worst thing to happen in 2009
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| Bag O' Nails | Jan 14 2009, 01:16 AM Post #35 |
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My birthday will barely make it before the board closes...Jan. 29th....
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| SuperBet | Jan 14 2009, 01:17 AM Post #36 |
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I started to post a bit more and you close the board? OK OK!!! I'll shut up!!!!
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| JeffLynnesBeard | Jan 14 2009, 01:17 AM Post #37 |
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Sorry Olia. Forgot it was your birthday at the end of the month. Yes, I promise that I will post the entire list by the end of January, even if I don't have a review written for each album. Thanks for still being interested in that! I'm well aware that this move is going to make me even more unpopular than I already am, but it is water off a duck's back. All emotions and opinions are valid and you're all free to post exactly what you think. People being optimistic and gracious about this does make it a little easier, though. My own plans involve finding a good general music forum somewhere to be a member and occasional poster... oh, and to think of a new screen name.
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| Mindy | Jan 14 2009, 01:17 AM Post #38 |
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You're very cool as well, Andy. I like your sense of humor. But while I respect your decision, I'm a little saddened by it. I'd be willing to help start a new board if anyone is interested, but it wouldn't be the same. |
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| Bag O' Nails | Jan 14 2009, 01:18 AM Post #39 |
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Actually I'm looking forward to a great 2009....I'll be in your neck of the woods for my 30th wedding anniversary in August! There are good and bad things in this life; this is one of them as I will be sad but hey, like you said, it's not the end of the world... |
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I know it's not the end of the world. I would worry if the end of the board was in 2012
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| DCBeatle64 | Jan 14 2009, 01:22 AM Post #42 |
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oh crappers. I wont even be here for that. I'll be in London. I'm gonna miss one of my favourite things on here.Damn |
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| Deleted User | Jan 14 2009, 01:25 AM Post #43 |
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I'm upset Andy specially because I am hungry and I was not expecting the end. I wish you and Fiona all the best and I hope we can meet someday. I had a good time here, thank you. I'm grateful.
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| JeffLynnesBeard | Jan 14 2009, 01:28 AM Post #44 |
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Thank you, Michelle. You are always interesting and colourful company. We'd love to meet you one day.
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| ogoble | Jan 14 2009, 01:28 AM Post #45 |
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I wouldn't...They won't let you say "Get a Room" over there. Honestly, I know all too well that all good things eventually come to an end (for example: Elvis, John, George...). I will truly miss everyone of my friends here. And if anyone ever wants to contact me, I can currently be found on MySpace & facebook under the name ogoble. I've personally found out in the past few months that live ain't always sunshine, lollypops, and rainbows. Just remember, if you ever find yourself lost in Alabama, I'm only a phone call away. I would start naming names of everyone I will miss, but there are way too many wonderful people here to start. Peace and Love! Olen
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| ogoble | Jan 14 2009, 01:30 AM Post #46 |
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| kink | Jan 14 2009, 01:31 AM Post #47 |
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Meh, I still like you Andy, I always have, and I admire you as a person, as a thinker, as a personality. I've had great fun with you and Fiona, and you've been really good to me. I don't see how people could hate you, and even more so because of a forum. I never got internet drama. Anyway, whatever the reasons for the closing of this forum, I think I am more saddened by the fact that you have decided to 'disappear', but that again is your decision. I'd want to avoid a few people too if I were you. Anyway, if you still like some of us, please keep in touch
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| SuperBet | Jan 14 2009, 01:32 AM Post #48 |
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| JeffLynnesBeard | Jan 14 2009, 01:39 AM Post #49 |
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Thanks, Olia. You're a diamond. Yes, we've had some good times and I've always liked and admired you, your passion, intelligence and spirit, ever since your Kaleidoscope days on the Macca board. I don't think I'll disappear, but I will certainly be around more in the background at any place I choose to post at and I'll definitely keep in touch with those who want to keep in touch with me. I may even create a myspace page again by the end of the month, if anyone still wants to keep in contact with me. I won't, however, be on facebook. Sorry, can't stand the virtual place. |
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| SuperBet | Jan 14 2009, 01:42 AM Post #50 |
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| JeffLynnesBeard | Jan 14 2009, 01:44 AM Post #51 |
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I had one and eventually deleted it. It was such a relief to not have to go there and deny all of those applications day after day - I've never once thought about going back. |
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| DCBeatle64 | Jan 14 2009, 01:45 AM Post #52 |
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oh man and facebook is the only thing I am on... please keep talking to me though, even if I am only on the horrid facebook. Not a bad person honest
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| JeffLynnesBeard | Jan 14 2009, 01:49 AM Post #53 |
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Ah, well you have my mobile number. I'm sure we'll exchange texts even if I'm not on facebook. Fiona's still on facebook though, so the channels of communication won't be completely severed!
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| DCBeatle64 | Jan 14 2009, 01:50 AM Post #54 |
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Come on Andy! It's me, isn't it? It's a little bit me, right? Seriously, I am drowning, throw me a rope here. It's all about me, pleeeeeeeeeeease. Never mind, a least I can still call Prussia my home, where they recognize me as Their Beloved Grand Emperor!
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Maybe we can meet this year in England or USA, if there's a meet up I'd like to know. And sorry for my "internet drama". |
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| Sci-Fi/Macca Fan | Jan 14 2009, 01:59 AM Post #57 |
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This was all a lot of fun. I had a great time with all of this. I met some great people. This is really sad, but I guess it's got to be a lot of hard work to keep a forum of this magnitude up and running. I know I didn't post a lot, but I had a ton of fun reading the posts on the board. I'm sure going to miss it. Thanks Andy. From the day you invited me from the pm.com board, I knew you were a great guy and I'm happy that I joined as soon as I did. I always enjoyed your responses to my blog and I hope you have the time to check in on it. Thanks again. |
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| Deleted User | Jan 14 2009, 02:02 AM Post #58 |
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| temptresss | Jan 14 2009, 02:03 AM Post #59 |
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well, i'm really disappointed in this. this was a fun place to go to and probably the last forum i'll be a part of (unless someone creates an extension of this place). i'm not sure i understand why it's become so 'uncomfortable' for some. true not everyone agrees with everyone all the time but that's life. i guess when things aren't fun anymore you quit but i think the majority of us STILL feel this place IS fun so if anyone wants to create a similar forum, by all means, do it. it would be nice to have a place to 'carry on'. Quitters don't win and winners don't quit! |
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| Deleted User | Jan 14 2009, 02:04 AM Post #60 |
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| temptresss | Jan 14 2009, 02:15 AM Post #61 |
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psssssssssssst....so did i, dickhead!
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| kink | Jan 14 2009, 02:22 AM Post #62 |
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by the way, what I said about 'internet drama' wasn't directed at anybody in this thread, it was a general comment concerning what Andy said about hateful PM's he has received in the past. Just wanted to clarify. It wasn't about you, Michelle, or anyone else who was saddened by Andy's decision.
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| Deleted User | Jan 14 2009, 02:30 AM Post #63 |
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You soooooooooooooo know what I want to call you right now, if it wasn't the 'worst insult in the entire English language'!
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| ogoble | Jan 14 2009, 02:31 AM Post #64 |
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Have any of my opinions here influenced your decision to close the board?Examples: - There is a God. - Homosexuality is a choice. - Corporal punishment is not abuse. - The Holy Bible is the 2008 Book of the Year. - ...and countless other topics. Well.....I ain't changing my opinions, beliefs, or convictions! LOL Regardless of what you think of me, I'm dying to know just one thing from you: Did I get the last "tenuous link" correct? |
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| BlueMolly2009 | Jan 14 2009, 02:33 AM Post #65 |
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Couldn't someone just take over? I don't like this decision. I'm going to lose contact with some people in here. Why do this? I'm sorry, but can't you get someone else to take over? Strawberry Fields CAN'T DIE!!!! I'm sorry, but this really upsets me. I'm never going back to PM.com and this was my place for Paul stuff. I'm not going to let this place go, sorry Andy. I'm sorry if I sound ungrateful, but this totally pisses me off. I hope i wasn't one of those people that made it uncomfortable. Again, I wish there was someone who could take over. This is one of the last message boards I'm part of, and I don't want to let this place go. Unfortunately, I might be the only "selfish" person here, who would love to fight for this place to stay open. Maybe it's just my cranky feeling. Edited by BlueMolly2009, Jan 14 2009, 02:39 AM.
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| JeffLynnesBeard | Jan 14 2009, 02:41 AM Post #66 |
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It's not as bad as all that, Molly. You've asked a lot of questions which I have already answered, if you'll read back through the thread. Strawberry Fields can and will die, but it can live on somewhere else if the right person creates a brand new forum for you all and runs it almost as badly as I have this one.
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| BlueMolly2009 | Jan 14 2009, 02:45 AM Post #67 |
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Hey, you did a good job, Andy. I'm sorry it has to go. Heck, I may lose some people, but I still have contact with people at Facebook. I hope I don't lose contact with you or Fiona. I wish you had a Facebook. I'm there all the time (contact info to come in the Address book thread)
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| JeffLynnesBeard | Jan 14 2009, 02:47 AM Post #68 |
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Yes you did. As for those particular opinions, they just go to show that Alabama isn't just a place, it's a state of mind.
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| Bill | Jan 14 2009, 02:49 AM Post #69 |
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Andy, I have to agree with Michelle. Yes, you and Fiona built this place and it's a testament to you but that doesn't mean everyone should be turfed out just because your heart isn't in it any more. We've talked recently about how cruel it would be to give people faith in something and then to yank it away. What's the difference? Mate, I love you like a brother and you know that I, more than most, understand the stress you've been put through. And that's kind of the point. Friends need to be honest with one another and the fact is that you're not the only one who has poured his heart and soul into this community. And you're not the only one who has lost friends for doing what you thought was for the wider good of the community here. If I ever decided to stop doing SF Radio (as I seriously considered last week) the first thing I would do would be to offer to pass it over to someone else. These things are bigger than our own egos. I really don't see any point in continuing a show based on a site that doesn't exist. Dani's point is well taken. You have done so much for the place and if you don't want to do it any more, then you shouldn't have to. But equally, people who have found a nice place to be here shouldn't have to try and replicate it just to continue to have a meeting place - not when the transfer of a couple of links and a couple of passwords to a couple of brave people would be so easy. We have also talked about how annoying and disruptive it is when people insist on being removed from the forum when all they have to do is stop coming back. Again, what's the difference? As I alluded to earlier, I did consider ending the radio show after some of the abuse that was hurled at me the other week. And I was going to explain why and sign off by saying "This podcast has been brought to you by get-fucked-the-lot-of-you." That's how p*ssed off I was, but I realised how self-indulged that would have been. It also would have dragged a whole lot of other people into something they really didn't deserve. If you need to move on with your life and away from some of the pressure here, then I fully understand and support that. But you don't have to put everyone else through the same grief. You don't have to make this another chapter in a cruel experiment that someone else has been accused of. With love, Bill |
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| Gary | Jan 14 2009, 02:55 AM Post #70 |
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| temptresss | Jan 14 2009, 03:02 AM Post #71 |
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i agree with bill and michelle. what have you got to lose by handing over the key to someone else? if anything, this is FLATTERY because we have loved this place and you want to take it away? this place has been nurtured to the community it is now and just because there are some hurdles...well, all of life is a hurdle. what would be the difference of letting someone else take over, or a new forum being created that you would probably eventually just join anyway? |
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| Aimee Wilbury | Jan 14 2009, 03:05 AM Post #72 |
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You mean the members we helped make the board what it is and we're now locked out. That's not very nice. |
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| Monkey Chow | Jan 14 2009, 03:08 AM Post #73 |
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Well, what a bummer and a fine happy birthday to me as well on Jan 31. Oh, well, I've enjoyed it and meeting you all and if you want to hit me up, I'm on myspace.com/monkeychowmusic but myspace just isn't the same... |
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| BeatleBarb | Jan 14 2009, 03:12 AM Post #74 |
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Thank you Andy and Fiona for all you have done...and thanks to all the mods and everyone here. Like Gaye, I check in every morning, play the Trivia game and sometimes check in at night. Ocassionally, I would stay and play, and have a glass of wine when I should have been studying or trying to unwind after dealing with the realities of my mother's Alzheimer's disease. I've met some amazing people in the flesh (yourself included) that I would have not normally met and maintained internet relationships with others (who I also hoped I might be able to meet). I tend to be a hugger and like it better in the flesh In any event, I value and treasure all of the relationships, perspectives, fun and knowledge that has been this forum. |
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| JeffLynnesBeard | Jan 14 2009, 03:13 AM Post #75 |
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Bill, I understand your points, Bill, but this is just the bricks and mortar. It's the people inside who count and they can find a new home somewhere else - somewhere that isn't actually a part of me and, like it or not, this forum is - and I'll never be able to let go. I think we're just kidding ourselves that this is a nice place most of the time, though. I think we do better than a lot of forums, but - bloody hell - this place has made me unhappy sometimes. Our 'fair-minded' policy has meant that we've ended up defending the right of people to say things that we really don't agree with and the right to post content which is irritating and vacuous. Us defending the right of people to post what they want has then p*ssed off the people who want this forum to be more like we envisaged it being in the first place which has led to them expressing their annoyance in no uncertain terms, leading to us asking them to stick to the forum rules of respecting other people, which then has the consequence of them accusing us of the very thing we stood against in the first place, censorship. We set ourselves up with our very own, personalised, Catch 22 situations. Of course, the answer is tolerance, but we can't all be tolerant of everyone else, all of the time. Some things just annoy people. I've ended up chastising people I've actually agreed with. I'm sure you have. However, it's better than showing the people you are friends with blatant favouritism - incidentally, that's something else I've occasionally been accused of. Well, I'm human. I make mistakes, we all do. This place has been the whole range of emotions from the highest high to the lowest low and I regret nothing. Well, maybe not nothing, but not much. Personally, and I hope people don't take this the wrong way, I think that there are some people on this forum who just shouldn't post together. There are some members whose online lives would be much better if they didn't encounter various other members every day. It's that kind of friction which has made this forum less enjoyable than it could have been. |
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| Aimee Wilbury | Jan 14 2009, 03:17 AM Post #77 |
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| Beatlesaholic | Jan 14 2009, 03:20 AM Post #78 |
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| Bill | Jan 14 2009, 03:20 AM Post #79 |
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Andy, don't I know it mate! Since today is the day for bringing speculation out into the open, that's the reason I stopped being a mod. I was not demoted or tapped on the shoulder. I just felt I had lost my objectivity and that meant it was time to hand it over to someone else. ![]() As you say, it's the people, not the place. So why should 300 people have to built and join another forum just so JeffLynnesBeard isn't there? It's not our fault if you feel you can't let it go. You could always get the new admin to ban you if you want.
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| JeffLynnesBeard | Jan 14 2009, 03:24 AM Post #80 |
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You can't - I own the root admin and the only person who can 'ban' the root admin is the root admin. Even then, there is a safeguard which allows you to log back in and restore your admin powers. You can't ban the account! Also, seeing as you can't delete any of the PM's here, I don't want to hand my account and, subsequently, hand over tons of often personal and sensitive stuff to someone else. |
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| BlueMolly2009 | Jan 14 2009, 03:24 AM Post #81 |
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I think it might have been that drama at Facebook that started this whole downfall. I'm sorry I was part of it. I know how you feel Andy, but I have to agree with Bill & Michelle and others here, I just don't have the "smarts" that they do to really explain my feelings. I wish you could reconsider having someone else take over. I still think this is a great place, and I'm not "kidding myself." In a lot of places there is drama and it puts the forum down for a bit. I really am torn right now. How can a landlord do this to their tennants, but I can also think that sometimes internet drama can take it's toll on people. I peronally would hate to see this place go and I would love to see someone like Bill or Lisa take over. I'd be happy to help out too. Andy, you've been a sweet person to me and I'd love to see you and Fiona someday. Sadly, I'm afraid because of the death of Strawberry Fields it won't happen. Again, please reconsider shutting this place and give the admin to someone else.
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| DCBeatle64 | Jan 14 2009, 03:24 AM Post #82 |
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I have to admit that when Andy left the first time I think there had always been hope and believe he would come back. He of course did. If it came to that again there would always be that expectation he would come back. If it is making one person, someone I quite like so unhappy then I dont think its a good idea to continue. Really what of great substance has been said recently. Its been pretty dead in reality and there are still those niggling issues... I know I havent been a saint and have occasionally helped cause trouble because it did stop becoming a Beatles forum which was a shame. There are more means than a messageboard to talk and hopefully those friendships can last without having other issues coming up which create further strain |
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| doris mendlovitz | Jan 14 2009, 03:25 AM Post #83 |
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| temptresss | Jan 14 2009, 03:25 AM Post #84 |
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| Bill | Jan 14 2009, 03:28 AM Post #86 |
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| Aimee Wilbury | Jan 14 2009, 03:31 AM Post #87 |
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How about contacting Zetaboards and to see if they can delete the PMs (after you backup)? http://if.invisionfree.com/topic/5008466/?author=39997 <-- you can transfer the root admin As I said, I'd volunteer to admin but I'd run it into the ground.
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| JeffLynnesBeard | Jan 14 2009, 03:31 AM Post #89 |
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Thanks Dani and Nancy. I'm sorry, I don't want to upset anyone and know that people have a right to feel aggrieved that I'm taking something away from them - because I am. Bill, I know how much you have put into this forum - more than most. I think you're a star and you've pretty much been one of the major reasons this place has flourished. The reason that you and I get frustrated and pull our (rapidly diminishing) hair out is because we care. I care too much about this place. I have to tell you that, even though I am grateful to her for the job she did while I was away, it drove me nuts to see Lisa (Jacaranda) steering this place in a slightly different direction. It's all too personal. It'd be like leaving a piece of myself somewhere - I'd always want to come back and get it. I warn you, I'm happy to talk about it, but you may start to consider me pig-headed and stubborn. If you don't already.
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| JeffLynnesBeard | Jan 14 2009, 03:33 AM Post #90 |
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I'm not going to read a word you say until you promise to stop giving my reviews on amazon 'unhelpful' votes. |
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| Aimee Wilbury | Jan 14 2009, 03:33 AM Post #91 |
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You could always just vanish off the internet. That way you won't see the board going in a different direction. Then again, that's not such a good idea.
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| Aimee Wilbury | Jan 14 2009, 03:37 AM Post #92 |
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| JeffLynnesBeard | Jan 14 2009, 03:40 AM Post #93 |
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The PM's are just one of the smaller reasons I'm not going to hand over my account. I mentioned the main reasons earlier and they haven't changed. |
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| Bill | Jan 14 2009, 03:42 AM Post #94 |
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That ship has sailed. But the greatest thing you ever did here was to ensure that it wasn't the JeffLynnesBeard forum and that all points of view were heard equally and that you went with the majority view even when you personally disagreed. And the fact that you didn't take practical disagreements personally. You're not the only one who has a personal investment in this place and I'm not just talking about other staff. This place will always be a par of you whether it still exists or not. I was coy in my first post because I didn't realise the Lissa thing was out in the open now. But if we assume (just for the sake of argument) that it was all a cruel hoax to play on people's emotions for motives unclear, then what's the difference with this? I fully understand your need to move away, just as I did. But I didn't try to bring the whole bloody community down around me. It's starting to sound like Strawberry Fields was all just Andy's Ego Trip after all. I don't deny that SF Radio is my ego trip too, but when my ego is satisfied, I'll give someone else a go - even though the hosting payment is still in my name. |
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| Jacaranda | Jan 14 2009, 03:42 AM Post #95 |
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| retrollama | Jan 14 2009, 03:43 AM Post #96 |
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Andy, I just wanted to say thank you for giving your heart and soul to this place for the past couple of years. Although closing this place down will upset a lot of people, I feel that you need to do what's best for you. ![]() Thanks again for the ride. What a long, strange trip it's been.
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What exactly did you envision this place being like that it's not now? Also, the people can find a new home somewhere else, just not all together in one place. I think this is very nice place compared to the forums I have been a member of, particularly some of the MSN groups, which by the way, are closing on Feburary 16 meaning that other groups cough*here*cough might see a large influx of new members. |
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| maccascruff | Jan 14 2009, 03:50 AM Post #100 |
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What do I say and where do I go. This is the first thing I do in the morning, along with the Trivia game and the radio show. I am selfish. I don't understand. I don't want it to end. Without this forum, the Liverpool meet-up would never have happened. If I knew how to create a new forum, I would. I don't want to go back to pm.com. I wish I had time to save all my PMs. With my work schedule now, I won't between now and January 31. I want to cry.
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