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Lissa (mozart8mytoe); The "mystery"
Topic Started: Jan 14 2009, 02:15 AM (6,143 Views)
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Jan 14 2009, 05:04 PM
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Jan 14 2009, 06:48 AM
By the way, I remember telling Judy that she was welcome to share my assessment of the situation - which was based on the best of my knowledge at the time - with others if she wanted to.
Beyond that though, I am deeply disappointed that comments I shared with people in private have been shared and now made public.
I'm Sorry ~ I hope you know I didn't mean any offense to it. :duh: :pinch:
It's fine Judy. I did tell you you were welcome to share. :hug:

It was the way some other comments came back to me that left me nonplussed.
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isn't it odd that not ONE of the "three" of them has come forward?
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To be honest I really don't care anymore. I know they don't post very often.

Nancy, my husband said I just stay online making fofoca. He said FOFOCA. So cute the accent. :giggle:

At least he is learning something. :P
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hahahahahah, how cute......I MISS PORTUGUES!
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Jan 15 2009, 04:01 AM
isn't it odd that not ONE of the "three" of them has come forward?
Yes it is, Nancy! You'd think at least Mia would show up to clear her name, wouldn't you? She vanished into thin air as soon as Dotty called her out.

It seemed as though Mia was around quite a lot there, for a while. She was rather outspoken...I wonder why she hasn't been back. :ponder:


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Jan 14 2009, 05:57 AM


Truth or Lies? We will never really know. And IF we ever do hear from one of these people again before the board closes down, WHO WILL BELIEVE ANYTHING THEY HAVE TO SAY? :ponder:

Not I. :yawn:


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I sent Adilah a PM a few weeks ago, asking her if Reverend Dave was the person she was in love with. She hasn't answered as of yet.

PEACE and love to my friends, Judy

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Till me meet again ~ I Love you Mike! You were one of a kind.
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Jan 15 2009, 04:34 AM
I sent Adilah a PM a few weeks ago, asking her if Reverend Dave was the person she was in love with. She hasn't answered as of yet.
I think he is the person she is in love with.

I remember Mia posting about him when he spent time in her house for some Jewish holiday.

She described him as a curly haired guy in his 40's.

If you see what Adilah wrote in the thread Something for girls, things will make sense.

She says he has curly hair and 40 something years old.

Was Rev Dave married before? If yes, it's him.

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Gary and I thought we had more evidence for you, but we'll have to do more research.


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That only suggests that they were all uploaded to the server here rather than being hosted off-site.
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While some things appear 'strange' here I still can't wrap myself around this whole Mia/Lissa & Adilah = figments of Rev Dave's imagination formula.

Color me clueless but I'm betting once one of those three logs on a lot of people will be red faced again.

I just don't know if it will be me or the lot of you. (odds aren't on my side.)
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Jan 15 2009, 07:39 AM
While some things appear 'strange' here I still can't wrap myself around this whole Mia/Lissa & Adilah = figments of Rev Dave's imagination formula.

Color me clueless but I'm betting once one of those three logs on a lot of people will be red faced again.

I just don't know if it will be me or the lot of you. (odds aren't on my side.)
I doubt it. No matter what Lissa (aka Mia) says I know they are the same person. Not her or anyone can tell be different. That my story and I am sticking to it.
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Dearest darling Dorothy,

I will be missing you!

Rev Dave's and Adilah's absence here recently perfectly fits their established posting patterns. I believe Mia's recent absence may have something to do with the conflict in Gaza. I believe the reserves have been called in in Israel.

But I fully admit I may be reading way too much between the lines and just don't want to admit I can be had so bad.

We'll find out soon enough, I'm fairly confident of that.
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Jan 15 2009, 08:32 AM
Dearest darling Dorothy,

I will be missing you!

Rev Dave's and Adilah's absence here recently perfectly fits their established posting patterns. I believe Mia's recent absence may have something to do with the conflict in Gaza. I believe the reserves have been called in in Israel.

But I fully admit I may be reading way too much between the lines and just don't want to admit I can be had so bad.

We'll find out soon enough, I'm fairly confident of that.
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i could be off in my timing but a month or two ago i got mia a bit heated and she made a comment about "someone that has to play a man and flirt with the girls" (i.e. Groinman)....i don't think she was even on this board at the time of Groinman...but again, i'm not sure of dates.
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Now I understand all that Lissa and Rev Dave posts that you were mentioning at another thread....

I can't imagine that someone can make a joke like this. :angry:
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Last night, I sent a very respectable, polite and short PM to Mia, asking if he/she will come and answer the questions we all have. I did no accusing, insulting, or bitching at her/him.

Any bets if I'll get an answer or she will show up?
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I suppose some of us should withdraw our "most honest" and "most respectful" nominations for the SF awards if this isn't all cleared up :wacko:
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Jan 15 2009, 03:03 PM
All I know is I am me and you're not.
Are you sure about that?
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I'd better check again.
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Jan 15 2009, 03:11 PM
Hmm, maybe Barb is really a guy named Hans and that's actually his wife in the avatar. :P *ducks and runs*
You found me out, Molly. :yes:

A clever one you are!
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Speak up.
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Have we suddenly turned into a witch hunt or what? I know people are upset but this is getting ridiculous
I'm a BIGGER Beatles fan than you and I'm an even BIGGER Wings fan than that...
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DC-I'm not upset at all-Just curious as to what's happening.
If I were in the middle of this so called "mystery", I would speak up and clear myself.

Many nice posters are upset about the current turn of events here, so I would like some answers for them, not me. :)
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I was saying it to everyone really.

Anyhow. I think Rev. Dave prob has a lot of reading to do if he is going to comment
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That's true-good point.
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This just breaks my heart.

I just finished with Andy's announcement about closing the site and now I'm reading this.

I'm beyond disappointed.
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Thank you, John.
With great power comes great responsibility. With great age....
What was I going to say?
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yes after your response on the other one, I didn't think you had got round to reading this one
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Jan 14 2009, 02:27 AM
Oh, by the way, just to come clean about something - the member knows as Venus & Mars, the animal rights whacko, well, that was me.
So it really wasn't my brother, damn my faulty intuition.
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Have we suddenly turned into a witch hunt or what? I know people are upset but this is getting ridiculous
Dani, I agree with you.

No matter what they say I won't believe unless they are in front of me. It doesn't make sense to go on and ask for answers. Too late. Let's move on and be happy.
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Well, here's another clue for you all, the Walrus was Paul...
Actually, he's still here (just invisible)...but it sincerely doesn't matter to me...either way.
It's all water under the bridge...and that bridge is burned.

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Personally, I find this hilarous. That's just me. But the fact that someone has a mind like this to fool so many people like this is kinda funny, as if it's someone from an Ivy League school doing a theis on how much do people believe things on the internet.

But, folks, don't beat yourselves up on this and don't blame anyone in charge of any wrong doing. How where they supposted to know someone was scamming you?

If this is a scam, IF, take it as life lesson. Take another life lesson with you, get out from behind a computer screen and meet people the old fashioned way, join a group, club, something where you actually more sharp on your skills. We live in an age where we forget how to be people and really interact face to face.
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Jan 15 2009, 04:50 PM
This just breaks my heart.

I just finished with Andy's announcement about closing the site and now I'm reading this.

I'm beyond disappointed.
Seeing that many of the active members have sensed a mystery which involves you, I find it peculiar that you would not want to explain what you can to help us with the matter.
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yes, i second that, gary.

the thing is, i never really knew 'lissa'...i saw some of her entries and thought she seemed clever and bright. what bothers me, though, is there were people here (such as linda, barb and others) that truly grieved and lost sleep over the loss of lissa in their life. it was not just a scam but something that really HURT and reached a lot of people. and now there is a possibility she never existed? real life or not, there are feelings here that have been involved. it doesn't mean because someone grieved someone from a forum board that they don't have a life. if anything, perhaps the internet 'extended' their interests and friends.

and who would ever have thunk that someone on a beatle board would do this? throughout my life, i have found B-people to be the most honest and sincere...

it would be wonderful if someone could come out and really explain the situation.
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There are dozens of people here I have never really known but that doesn't mean they don't exist.

I guess I am fortunate that I have never been called upon to prove my existence. If ever anyone demanded that I present proof, I'd tell them to go jump. Hands up who wouldn't.
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actually, the more i think of this, the funnier it gets. it's not like dave is gonna come out and say, "ok, ya caught me, i'm a male version of Sybil". it just ain't gonna happen. so, like michelle, i won't believe anything unless all four appeared to me in person. and since that possibility is ZIP...it no longer matters.

now...who's game to open a new SF? anyone?
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now...who's game to open a new SF? anyone?
http://s3.zetaboards.com/Strawberry_Fields/topic/7105940/
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Well Well Well.... At least I can assure you that I never use another username than my real name: Manon.

I am not so in shock reading all that: That is internet and I didn't expect too much about honesty.
But I know there is real people here. I met some of them, so I can confirm they are real. And I am happy to believe many of the member here are honest.
The Lissa thing is turning into the bigger drama Sf forum had to go throught. It is not really funny... for me at least. Maybe I don't understand the joke ?????
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Jan 16 2009, 12:43 AM
There are dozens of people here I have never really known but that doesn't mean they don't exist.

I guess I am fortunate that I have never been called upon to prove my existence. If ever anyone demanded that I present proof, I'd tell them to go jump. Hands up who wouldn't.
Bill, are you really you? of course you are. I talked to you when I was drunk. At least I think I did. :lol: :unsure:
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it's NOT funny but...when i think what are we expecting from any of them? to come forward and say 'i was only foolin'". ain't gonna happen. we can't expect it. so i guess that's the 'funny' part...we're expecting/wishing someone to admit it and it's just not forseeable. we are waiting for nada.

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Admit to what?

This feeding frenzy is nothing but guilt-by-suspicion. All we know is that there are some anomalies in their IP addresses. That's not a crime. In most civilised parts of the world, the onus of proof is on the accuser.
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well, at least deny it, if that's the case. to say nothing just leaves that frenzy bubbling over.
anyway, this is like beating a dead dog.

in life there are many roads ahead, none of them goes on forever.

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Jan 16 2009, 03:52 AM
Admit to what?

This feeding frenzy is nothing but guilt-by-suspicion. All we know is that there are some anomalies in their IP addresses. That's not a crime. In most civilised parts of the world, the onus of proof is on the accuser.
I am not accusing Dave or Adilah of anything. Just Mia being Lissa. She does sound like her. Even if she not. I still say, they act the same. No one can convince me differently.
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Now that I have had time to reflect upon the situation and take all of this in, if it's all fiction, I come away feeling not only relieved that someone who I thought was pretty special did not die, but I'm thinking how very, very clever - albeit cruel, but how very cunning this person(s) is. The "Lissa" story itself, its unraveling and ultimate affect on complete strangers would make a great script.

It is indeed quite an affirmation about the power of words, trust, and vulnerability.



Edited by BeatleBarb, Jan 16 2009, 05:52 AM.
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Well, here's another clue for you all, the Walrus was Paul...
The thing is...it's one thing to be lied to about someones looks, their age...their sex...whatever. The typical online lameass lies.
But you don't THINK that someone is going to lie about dying.
I mean...who in the hell does that ...and why?
So...of course more people were taken in...because...you cannot fathom someone coming onto a Beatles Forum...just for the sole purpose of killing yourself off....only to be reincarnate yourself as someone else.
Mind Boggling.



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I agree Rose, it is a trip.

But in reality, we're a perfect group to scam - we're friendly for the most part, got that "Beatles" love thing going for us...lol. Look how long the "Paul is Dead" thing has been going on.
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It's all very interesting, and I agree with Barb that it would make a good script.

The sad thing is, if someone actually does pass away (God forbid) nobody is going to believe it, everyone will think it's another scam.
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Yeah, it pretty much crosses the line for me with respect to pulling one over on people.
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Paul is alive!!!!!
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No you told me. I always prefered the markII. I thought his orignal was Joe Snead.
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The thing is...it's one thing to be lied to about someones looks, their age...their sex...whatever. The typical online lameass lies.
But you don't THINK that someone is going to lie about dying.
I mean...who in the hell does that ...and why?
So...of course more people were taken in...because...you cannot fathom someone coming onto a Beatles Forum...just for the sole purpose of killing yourself off....only to be reincarnate yourself as someone else.
Mind Boggling.


I thought of it.. :lol:
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Now that I have had time to reflect upon the situation and take all of this in, if it's all fiction, I come away feeling not only relieved that someone who I thought was pretty special did not die, but I'm thinking how very, very clever - albeit cruel, but how very cunning this person(s) is. The "Lissa" story itself, its unraveling and ultimate affect on complete strangers would make a great script.

It is indeed quite an affirmation about the power of words, trust, and vulnerability.



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You know what? I've been scammed like this before. Exactly like this. And it doesn't stop hurting that people would do that.

I mean, we can't prove anything, but it does meet that sort of criteria. If it ISN'T a scam, I apologize. But it does feel a bit too right to be wrong.

And what hurts the most is that this person or these people often had good things to contribute. That ticks me off. Big time.
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If people want to talk about a real mystery, how is it that there are 6300 replies on the Count to a Million thread, but the number has gone up by over 10,000?

What's all THAT about? :huh:
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Maybe Andy trimmed it to economize on space, Bill.

They did it all the time over at Paul's forum.


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...or maybe it was Merry! She used to mess up the count all the time on PM.Com. :P
What a long, strange trip it's been....
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Are you suggesting there might be a perfectly innocent explanation for this apparent act of fraud?
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Darn it, Lisa...you're on to me! :P

Yes Bill, but it's alright...hey, we thought we had the whole 'mystery' here solved the other night with the avatar properties, and we (I) was very embarrassed afterwords when we discovered three quarters of everyone's here share the same numbers! :lol:


:) Merry


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Are you suggesting there might be a perfectly innocent explanation for this apparent act of fraud?
Yes, there are two side to each story.
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Nope, it was just an observation... :whistle:
What a long, strange trip it's been....
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Jan 17 2009, 04:26 AM
If people want to talk about a real mystery, how is it that there are 6300 replies on the Count to a Million thread, but the number has gone up by over 10,000?

What's all THAT about? :huh:
Yeah, why can't people take threads like that more seriously? :whistle:
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Jan 17 2009, 04:26 AM
If people want to talk about a real mystery, how is it that there are 6300 replies on the Count to a Million thread, but the number has gone up by over 10,000?

What's all THAT about? :huh:
There is a simple explanation for that.

We didin't start from #1, we started (aproximately) from where we was at PM.com at the moment of the temporary shut down...

Mistery solved. :circles:
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No, the count started at 70601 and after 6,330 replies, now stands at 80712.

Somebody owes us an explanation!
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Well, here's another clue for you all, the Walrus was Paul...
People f*ck up. A lot.

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Jan 17 2009, 03:54 PM
No, the count started at 70601 and after 6,330 replies, now stands at 80712.

Somebody owes us an explanation!
Really????

:o :o :o :o :o

That's not possible!!! I suggest to check every single post in that thread...
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Counnting can be tricky, that's why we have the thread, so people can practise.
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Jan 17 2009, 03:54 PM
No, the count started at 70601 and after 6,330 replies, now stands at 80712.

Somebody owes us an explanation!
:ponder: Maybe some moron is posting their counts in the wrong thread...

80713...80714...80715...80716...



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Jan 17 2009, 05:46 PM
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Jan 17 2009, 03:54 PM
No, the count started at 70601 and after 6,330 replies, now stands at 80712.

Somebody owes us an explanation!
:ponder: Maybe some moron is posting their counts in the wrong thread...

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And who would do that?
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Maybe we should have a recount...


No wait... that hasn't worked too well for Minnesota... never mind...





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IF v_count_days_not_posting_here GT 365. Write 'HELLO!!!'. ENDIF.
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We made it before the board closes! :yahoo: :clap:

Thanks, Bet.
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Um, not exactly. ;)
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Hey everyone, just wanted to get in what will probably be my last post. I guess this is a good place to do it. In the 2+ years I've been here, I've never really been a big poster. I'm probably one of the youngest posters here, and from early on I always sort of felt like people weren't responding to my posts, and sort of ignoring what I said, but maybe I'm just being stupid. Even though I didn't post much, I've still been coming on here almost daily to check the goings on.

When Lissa "died", I like many others here was shocked. It really stuck me that people reacted so strongly to the death of someone so secretive and who nobody really knew anything about. I thought it was weird that there was never any news about the accident that Reverand Dave claimed she died in. I never really thought anything of it though. When Mia Culpa started posting I also noticed the similarites, I guess I wasnt the only one. But as usaul, I didn't say anything.

If it is true that all these people are one in the same, I think whoever it is posting is truely a horrible person. I have no aliases here and am not the alias of anyone, but I understand that having an alias would be fun. Maybe this person didnt want to post as Lissa anymore, so he/she just killed her off. But when it got the reaction it did here, they should have stopped it, the joke shouldve been over. I guess thats not how people are though.

Anyway, Ive had a great experience here, you guys are great. I'm deeply saddened to see this place go, but I respect the decision, the magic here ended for me long ago, but I still hung around. You can try to recreate SF somewhere else, but it just wont be the same. Oh well, best of luck to you all.

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Well said Dan. Thanks.
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This is crazy and I have to say "Lissa/Mia" is either a crazy person or just a person with a twisted sense of humor. Who really knows? I wonder if she/he has done it on other threads?
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I don't think makes them a bad person. maybe, A great storie teller. You all know I am anti-dotty and Cupid. however, I would admit to it in the long run.
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When I first noticed Lissa she was a semi-regular poster on the Lennon forum, and she seemed in character with the person we all came to know here. I was the person who asked her over to this site because there weren't many people left over there to talk to. I found she had also been a member at George Harrison's message forum (she wasn't well received), as well as at Paul's. Once here, she seemed to make this place her 'home'. Oh yes, I also found she had participated in a contest at the 'Bagism' site, and scored 100% on some kind of quiz.
The fact that she had been at other sites makes her seem more credible to me, and her personality was always consistent wherever she was.

Lapis had asked if any of us had attended her funeral and all I can say is that the only persons who seemed to have met her were Reverend Dave and Adilah, only they could verify her existence, and clear up the 'mystery', if they chose. No one here was ever able to find an obituary for her, nor any evidence of a bus/car accident in the small town in China she was supposedly visiting around that date.

So we are left with many question than answers, but I just wanted to clarify that Lissa (mozart8mytoe) had also participated at other forums as well.

:) Merry (Posting once again by mistake in Gary's account! :blush: Sheesh!)
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Well, despite being "found out" here, Mia still posts on her 'blog and according to that, she has been called up and deployed to Gaza, which kind of implies she has more important things on her mind than answering a bunch of speculation on a message board.

In light of the whole heap of reasonable doubt surrounding the accusation, I'd show some respect.
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I agree Bill, we have little to go on either way, but I would rather think that these people were/are who and what they said they are. Call me gullible or whatever, I still have faith in humanity (somehow) and find it hard to believe that anyone would develop such a complex ploy just to fool a group of people on a Beatle board. I just can't think of a reason why anyone would want to.

Btw, I didn't know that Mia had a blogsite, that would be interesting to see.


:) Merry
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I find it very depressing if people think there can only be one sharp-witted, well-travelled, talented and knowledgable young woman in the world.
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nevermind...
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I agree Bill, we have little to go on either way, but I would rather think that these people were/are who and what they said they are. Call me gullible or whatever, I still have faith in humanity (somehow) and find it hard to believe that anyone would develop such a complex ploy just to fool a group of people on a Beatle board. I just can't think of a reason why anyone would want to.

Btw, I didn't know that Mia had a blogsite, that would be interesting to see.


:) Merry
Merry, there have been people who have done it. In a spade game thing this couple did it. Everyone cryed and said, how sorry for them to come on later to say they were joking.
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Well, despite being "found out" here, Mia still posts on her 'blog and according to that, she has been called up and deployed to Gaza, which kind of implies she has more important things on her mind than answering a bunch of speculation on a message board.

In light of the whole heap of reasonable doubt surrounding the accusation, I'd show some respect.

holy shite i am so laffing my arse i said 3 weeks ago about sodden Gaza.

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Jan 18 2009, 10:31 PM
Maybe we should have a recount...


No wait... that hasn't worked too well for Minnesota... never mind...





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When I read all of this I just couldn't believe it. I didn't know what to say and I'm frankly not sure I should say anything. The conspiracy theorists will take anything as "proof" that their theory is valid, just as they will silence. Moreover I really don't want to talk to such vicious people. The hatred I've seen here is just depressing.

I don't mind being called Adilah, Lissa and Mia. That's a big compliment. What I can't believe is the utter disrespect shown to someone whom I thought the people here cared about.

The "proof" offered here has been mind-boggling. Someone asked how people on different continents could meet each other. Ask the Americans who went to Liverpool. Also, Adilah, Mia and I all live on the same continent. People have said all of our lives are intertwined. They're not. I'm the only one who met all of them. Lissa and Adilah never met Mia. But what if we had all met? How is that suspicious? Many of the lives here are intertwined. Lissa never liked Peter? That's suspicious? The people who've met him offline say he's a nice person, but online he comes across as very angry at almost everyone for no reason. How many people here has he threatened with violence? What would be suspicious is if someone like Lissa did like someone like Peter. Something for the conspiracy theorists to think about: do you remember when Peter was pretending to be a woman named Sadie for the sole purpose of telling us how great Peter is? "I luv Peter" isn't simply narcissism.
http://s3.zetaboards.com/Strawberry_Fields/topic/263372/1/#post87897

If you can look beyond the gossip and rumors for a minute you'll see that Lissa was active on several websites and had one of her own. The same goes for Mia, though she uses a different name on Youtube. I was also a member of Paul's site before the anger and hostility became too much. We've all talked about our families, careers, education and homes. If we're all fiction then all of that must be too. I'm sure it's possible to create so much detail over such a long period of time, but I for one am simply not that creative. If we're all one person that means we went to an astonishingly intricate amount of effort just to make people think we're different people. All for what? Just to annoy Peter? Sorry, Peter, but you're just not that important to me. Threaten me all you want.

Which is more likely, Mia or I or whoever spent years and years planning and orchestrating a vast Machiavellian conspiracy for no discernable reason, or someone with a grudge against Mia started a rumor?

I know there are those who will pick apart everything I've said here and see it as further "proof" of their paranoid theory, but I feel I owe it to the few rational people left here to say something that I hope in some small way assuages any concerns you might have.

This website has been going downhill recently and I think the main cause is angry and hostile people who get great joy from insulting and attacking others. Apparently that often happens online, but I think it's very sad.

I will miss most of you, no matter what you now think of me. Those of you I know how to keep in touch with I will keep in touch with, if you're willing. Goodnight and God bless.
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Dave, I am not going lie to you. Lissa and mia sound pretty much alike. Then think about it someone also, said that doris and I sound alike which I don't think we do. Pretty much I did think they were same person.
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I just knew you were Doris. Odd that I never said anything to you until now.
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Reverend Dave,

I loved your obituary for Lissa and I was wondering why you never posted a link to her actual obituary or to any articles reviewing her many accomplishments and achievements. She sounds like a remarkable person who touched the hearts of so many people here that I am certain you can understand why people want to believe that Lissa really was the person you so eloquently portrayed her to be. If you can paint such an in-depth portrait giving the most intimate and explicit details of her life from such an early age up until her untimely and tragic death at age 25, then certainly you can give the 400 members of Strawberry Fields that loved her enough to pour out their hearts and souls in 43 pages of comments a simple link to establish her existence. Thanks.

With Deepest Respect and Greatest Sincerity,

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I just knew you were Doris. Odd that I never said anything to you until now.
Actually, I am Cupid and anti-dotty. However, I would love to be Doris. She is a nice person. She always send me lovely recipe every Christmas. :)
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