Macca says it's time to release Carnival of light!

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Macca says it's time to release Carnival of light!
Topic Started: Nov 16 2008, 05:38 AM (295 Views)
BeatleBarb	Nov 19 2008, 10:01 AM Post #16
Posts: 7,816 Group: Members Member #100 Joined: May 18, 2006	Mclenarr Nov 19 2008, 04:19 AM Bill Nov 19 2008, 02:01 AM I think it's really unfair of Paul to put Olivia in that position. George made his preference known during the compiling of Anthology and now Olivia has to decide whether he might have changed his mind by now. I think Paul is a bit jealous that John had the front to actually release Revolution 9 and defend its release, and Paul didn't. He should get over it. Erm...well i think olivia 'there was so much love' Harrison should just stop being such a fusspot! Jeez! It's only George Harrison's thought's a bout an experimental peice of music. It's not exactly gonna make him turn in his grave! ANd it'd be different this time 'cause they had to think about how much room it'd take up on ant.2! I agree with you. Sometimes you have to improvise along the way. Perhaps George might have changed his mind as he aged. I think it would be a nice thing of Olivia to do. We'll listen to it and know that George didn't like it, but maybe we would.



Bill	Nov 19 2008, 10:36 PM Post #17
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FamousGroupie	Nov 20 2008, 12:23 AM Post #18
Obsessive Saddo Fangirl Posts: 7,839 Group: Members Member #5 Joined: May 7, 2006	If Paul wants to release Carnival Of Light then he needs Ringo, Yoko and Olivia to agree. If George didn't like the piece and vetoed its inclusion on the second anthology, then what makes him think he can try to bully Olivia into agreeing?
	Youth truth beauty fame boredom and a bottle of pills


beatlechick	Nov 20 2008, 01:46 AM Post #19
In Paul's Arms! Posts: 6,692 Group: Members Member #29 Joined: May 8, 2006	FamousGroupie Nov 20 2008, 12:23 AM If Paul wants to release Carnival Of Light then he needs Ringo, Yoko and Olivia to agree. If George didn't like the piece and vetoed its inclusion on the second anthology, then what makes him think he can try to bully Olivia into agreeing? I totally agree with you, Clare. As much as I love Paul, Olivia and Yoko are both the mouthpieces for their deceased husbands. If neither of them likes a product, why should Paul or Ringo want to make them think otherwise? If George didn't like it and has gone on record for not liking it, why would anyone presume that he would like it now? It was recorded a long time ago, Paul wanted it on the Anthology 2 disc that came out in 1996 (?), and George didn't like it. I think we need to just leave it at that and I am saying that even though I would love to hear it.



ohnotjimagain	Nov 20 2008, 08:05 AM Post #20
Posts: 3,828 Group: Members Member #153 Joined: June 25, 2006	beatlechick Nov 20 2008, 01:46 AM FamousGroupie Nov 20 2008, 12:23 AM If Paul wants to release Carnival Of Light then he needs Ringo, Yoko and Olivia to agree. If George didn't like the piece and vetoed its inclusion on the second anthology, then what makes him think he can try to bully Olivia into agreeing? I totally agree with you, Clare. As much as I love Paul, Olivia and Yoko are both the mouthpieces for their deceased husbands. If neither of them likes a product, why should Paul or Ringo want to make them think otherwise? If George didn't like it and has gone on record for not liking it, why would anyone presume that he would like it now? It was recorded a long time ago, Paul wanted it on the Anthology 2 disc that came out in 1996 (?), and George didn't like it. I think we need to just leave it at that and I am saying that even though I would love to hear it. I also agree. I'd like to hear it (although I'm sure it will be a load of crap) But Olivia must respect George's wishes.
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BeatleBarb	Nov 20 2008, 10:03 AM Post #21
Posts: 7,816 Group: Members Member #100 Joined: May 18, 2006	I certainly wouldn't be for Paul bullying Olivia for anything, but I'm all for him requesting. When Paul wanted to change song credit, was that consideried bullying Yoko?



Deleted User	Nov 20 2008, 02:36 PM Post #22
Deleted User	i've just heard the interview. Weirdly he says 'we were all set up doing an album...the white album, i think...and my friend asked me to do it...But the interviewer had just said it was the day they mixed Penny Lane and even so how the heck would he not know that!!
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FamousGroupie	Nov 20 2008, 04:21 PM Post #23
Obsessive Saddo Fangirl Posts: 7,839 Group: Members Member #5 Joined: May 7, 2006	BeatleBarb Nov 20 2008, 10:03 AM I certainly wouldn't be for Paul bullying Olivia for anything, but I'm all for him requesting. When Paul wanted to change song credit, was that consideried bullying Yoko? Yes, but Yoko stood her ground and it didn't happen. I kind of respect her for that.
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Deleted User	Nov 20 2008, 07:00 PM Post #24
Deleted User	Olivia and Yoko shouldn't have this power. They didn't make the music. Do you all think if there was a letter written by Van Gogh asking people not to expose his paintings after his death the Museums would respect his last wish? No. They would say he had mental illness and his art is world heritage. People want the Beatles, people made the Beatles, Paul and Ringo are ex Beatles not Yoko and Olivia. I won't say John because he didn't know he would die, but George knew he would die, if he was selfish, he would make a document not allowing this or that song release. He didn't write anything and that means a lot, Olivia should think about it.
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Bill	Nov 20 2008, 07:28 PM Post #25
Posts: 9,565 Group: Members Member #6 Joined: May 7, 2006	How would Paul feel if a publisher want to release some of Linda's photographs that she had felt were substandard or unfit for publication when she took them? Is it any of his business? I think so! And that's the call that Paul is (apparently) asking Yoko and Olivia to make. Anything released under the Beatles' name reflects on all of them even though 50% of them are no longer here to defend themselves. So on the one hand, Paul is blocking the re-issue of the Let It Be film because he doesn't feel like promoting something that shows the Beatles in a bad light but he is (apparently) lobbying for the release of something that has already been rejected by the others twice. If George's opinion of the track hadn't changed between 1967 and 1995, it woouldn't have changed since 2001. Mind you, George did release Electronic Sounds, so go figure. :lol:
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beatlechick	Nov 20 2008, 07:45 PM Post #26
In Paul's Arms! Posts: 6,692 Group: Members Member #29 Joined: May 8, 2006	Michelle, Yoko and Olivia have every right to have a say so in what was a part of their husbands lives. Like Bill said, would Paul approve of pictures Linda took (good or not but not released to the public) being sold and not have a say so? I highly doubt it. It would be as if someone tried selling something that you made that wasn't your best effort, and never intended to sell to anyone, after your death. You may not care that it was being sold but your family may not like it. Your family wants to protect you even in death. They have every right to do so, and that is the way it should be.



Deleted User	Nov 20 2008, 10:21 PM Post #27
Deleted User	Bill Nov 20 2008, 07:28 PM How would Paul feel if a publisher want to release some of Linda's photographs that she had felt were substandard or unfit for publication when she took them? Is it any of his business? I think so! And that's the call that Paul is (apparently) asking Yoko and Olivia to make. Anything released under the Beatles' name reflects on all of them even though 50% of them are no longer here to defend themselves. So on the one hand, Paul is blocking the re-issue of the Let It Be film because he doesn't feel like promoting something that shows the Beatles in a bad light but he is (apparently) lobbying for the release of something that has already been rejected by the others twice. If George's opinion of the track hadn't changed between 1967 and 1995, it woouldn't have changed since 2001. Mind you, George did release Electronic Sounds, so go figure. :lol: It's different. Linda wasn't part of a group of photographers. The Beatles were a group. Who do you think you are to say that George wouldn't change his mind? I am just asking you because you don't like when people play the mind reader with you. It's the same thing, because George didn't change his mind before you can't say he wouldn't change now. You don't know. I am not insulting you, don't take me wrong. I'm just defending my point the same way you defend yours and I think Ringo and Paul have more rights on John and George work than Yoko and Olivia, of course, if Ringo and Paul don't take credits. And about Let it be, anyone who's a Beatle fan saw it many times, it's not a big deal if it's released or not. I'd love to have Let it be DVD but Let it be can be found everywhere while Carnival of Light song...
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Deleted User	Nov 20 2008, 10:23 PM Post #28
Deleted User	beatlechick Nov 20 2008, 07:45 PM Michelle, Yoko and Olivia have every right to have a say so in what was a part of their husbands lives. Like Bill said, would Paul approve of pictures Linda took (good or not but not released to the public) being sold and not have a say so? I highly doubt it. It would be as if someone tried selling something that you made that wasn't your best effort, and never intended to sell to anyone, after your death. You may not care that it was being sold but your family may not like it. Your family wants to protect you even in death. They have every right to do so, and that is the way it should be. Yoko and Olivia can have rights on John and George solo careers but they shouldn't have any rights on The Beatles, they should have limited rights maybe, but if they say no Paul and Ringo can't release anything? I don't agree. There are many famous artists who died miserable and became famous after death and made many people who were not related to them rich, and I don't think they allowed anyone to sell anything after their death. When you die, it's over. People from the Western side of the world adore dead people and how dead people have voice when they are dead, impressive. I want to listen to the song George liking it or not. I don't care if it's crap, I'll still love them. :wub:
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Mia Culpa	Nov 20 2008, 11:07 PM Post #29
This space intentionally left blank. Posts: 3,051 Group: Members Member #529 Joined: January 18, 2008	This whole conversation is speculative at best, but I found this part interesting: Quote: fab4fan Nov 18 2008, 09:15 AM WLS-AM 890 Chicago. It was during the Erich Mancow Muller show. He had a guest on who supplies all the new releases to Teri Hemert, host of Breakfast with the Beatles on WXRT-FM 93.1. The guys name is Tom. Here's his website: http://tomwantstoplaywithpaulmccartney.com/ It sounds a bit unlikely. I can't access the radio show. How come it's not been more widley noted on the web. I've only heard about it from you. There's something not quite right! Come on, show us some more evidence!! He supplied the name of the radio show, the station's city and call letters, the name of the guest, that guest's radio show, call letters and website. What more information would anybody need?
	If you read my posts backward there's evidence that Paul is dead.


Hey Jude	Nov 21 2008, 03:43 AM Post #30
Posts: 64 Group: Admin Member #1 Joined: May 6, 2006	I really don't care whether I hear this track or not. If it is anything like Revolution 9, which I don't particularly care for, I would most likely only ever want to hear the track once, just out of curiosity. I am also slightly concerned about the release of this track devaluing the Beatles' heritage. If it wasn't good enough to be released 'back in the day', why release it now? I agree that Yoko and Olivia should have a say in whether the track is released or not, although perhaps a say which stops short of the power of veto.
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