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Swearing On Tv; Is it neccesary?
Topic Started: Oct 19 2007, 10:02 PM (644 Views)
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As I'm sitting here my wife has the tv on. The programme she is watching has them saying the 'f' word every few sentences. The previous programme had them saying the 'f' word. There is a cook show where the chef's claim to fame seems to be able to swear in every sentence,it's even called The F Word. I think that there is no need to have swearing all the time on tv,I hear enough in work and on buses and trains. Do you think that it should be stopped? This is on British tv.I'm not sure what tv is like in other countries,although I can't recall hearing so much swearing when in America.
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Ah Gordon Ramsey doing what he does best!! ^_^
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Oct 19 2007, 10:06 PM
Ah Gordon Ramsey doing what he does best!! ^_^

Is his cooking as good as his swearing?
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I haven't tried it but i've heard rave reviews
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That's just Gordon Ramsay, he's got a filthy mouth on him. I don't think swearing is all that rampant on TV, is it? Mind you, I've never understood American attitudes to what's shown on TV - going back to the Janet Jackson 'wardrobe malfunction' at the Superboel that year for my example. The US has one of the highest crime rates in the world, people are killing each other every day, your kids see this on the news every night, some of your movies are full of sex and drugs and violence, and yet, one boob pops out and the country's in an uproar - INAPPROPRIATE!!

I'm not trying to start a fight with anyone here. I'm just pointing out what's different between our cultures. If it had happened here, yes there'd be an uproar, but only because Ms Jackson didn't show ENOUGH tit.
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It doesnt really bother me to be honest. Although I say this as somebody who swears to much. Its prob not necessary but I think swearing has obviously become less of an issue and it has been replaced as taboo by other things such as race etc
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You can't stop swearing on TV, people swear in everyday life so programs shouldn't be dummed down just because someone doesn't like it.
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Exactly Colin!!!!!! :clap: :clap: :clap:
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Damn if I know.

But on a morning television show here this morning, they said a study revealed that swearing at the workplace increases morale.
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Damn if I know.

But on a morning television show here this morning, they said a study revealed that swearing at the workplace increases morale.

Holy sh*t, I`m up for that!!
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I always come back to what Billy Connelly said. There's no such thing as bad language, just bad use of language. Ramsay has bad use of language.

But Clare is right. Just think of all the gruesome murders shown on all kinds of programs, including so-called 'family' shows, and no-one bats an eyelid. Yet people get the vapours if someone says f*ck? Where's the sense in that?
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Oct 19 2007, 06:46 PM
You can't stop swearing on TV, people swear in everyday life so programs shouldn't be dummed down just because someone doesn't like it.

Maybe it's life that shouldn't be dumbed down.
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Is it necessary? Probably not. Should it be stopped? Not on my account! ;)

Anything past the 'watershed' is fair game for a bit of profanity. I wouldn't like to go back to the times where people were shocked when Rhett Butler said 'Damn' in Gone With The Wind and the morality police were all over our broadcasting. Besides, trying to stop Gordon Ramsay from swearing is like trying to stop Paul McCartney from playing the bass. :P

I sometime think that it would be nice to go back to simpler, more innocent times - but when I consider the amount of censorship and forced "morality" on broadcasters and viewers 50 years ago, I certainly wouldn't want to go back to those times of unspeakable taboo subjects and repression.
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I swear too much. Maybe it's just in Australia, but I honestly do not hear much swearing on TV, only really on programs that are aired later at night and they always have warnings.

But then again, I don't watch much TV.
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TV Producer - "Mr Ramsey i think you should tone down your language a bit it's far inappropriate for younger viewers"

Gordon Ramsey - "f*ck Off!"
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Classic! :clap:
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That's Gordon Ramsey's personality and why change it? I'm not fond of it though, but that's HIM. I used to watch "Hell's Kitchen" on FOX, but his swearing got to me. Do I think swearing is going overboard, no, BUT I won't watch the show.
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I never used to take any notice of swearing on tv. Maybe I'm just getting older. :P
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Oct 19 2007, 11:46 PM
You can't stop swearing on TV, people swear in everyday life so programs shouldn't be dummed down just because someone doesn't like it.

I'll have to disagree, certainly you wouldn't want swearing on PBS. Can you imagine Big Bird calling Maria a Fu#$ Bi#@h! Would you?
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I should find that clip of New Zoo Revue where Charlie the Owl goes on this rant and tells Freddy the Frog to go f*ck himself. It was part of this blooper tape a friend of mine had and I found the clip on Youtube not too long ago.
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Oct 20 2007, 07:24 PM
I never used to take any notice of swearing on tv. Maybe I'm just getting older. :P

No, you're not getting old (well, we're all getting older) but swearing is becoming more commonplace, even on network television.. In general, I have no problem with it if it is accompanied with clever dialogue or truly adds to what's being communicated.

I remember when Lucy couldn't say the word "pregnant". She had to say she was "expecting".
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The issue with Ramsay is not that he swears, just that he's a f*cking arsehole...... who swears.
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My own liberal application of swearwords in everyday conversation would logically point to my being more or less cool with swearing on television. For once, logic wins out.
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Oct 19 2007, 11:46 PM
You can't stop swearing on TV, people swear in everyday life so programs shouldn't be dummed down just because someone doesn't like it.

I'll have to disagree, certainly you wouldn't want swearing on PBS. Can you imagine Big Bird calling Maria a Fu#$ Bi#@h! Would you?

I'm quite happy for that sort of thing to be left off children's TV. ;) I was shocked last night when Andy and I were watching 100 Greatest Scary Moments on E4 and they were up for showing anything from these gruesome gorefests. Andy told me that after 9PM anything was fair game but you just know they wouldn't show porn. I think it's hypocritical but I'd probably rather those moments not be shown at all than to add hardcore banging to them. :sweet: American TV is too censored and British TV is too liberal. How's Australian TV? I've had enough of Gordon Ramsay. I don't think he's charming, I think he's not a very nice person. And he encourages that sort of language from his child?! :blink:
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Look, Gordon Ramsey chooses to swear, that's who he is. So if you don't like it don't watch it!! He's not gonna change!! :clap:
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Oct 19 2007, 11:46 PM
You can't stop swearing on TV, people swear in everyday life so programs shouldn't be dummed down just because someone doesn't like it.

I'll have to disagree, certainly you wouldn't want swearing on PBS. Can you imagine Big Bird calling Maria a Fu#$ Bi#@h! Would you?

I'm quite happy for that sort of thing to be left off children's TV. ;) I was shocked last night when Andy and I were watching 100 Greatest Scary Moments on E4 and they were up for showing anything from these gruesome gorefests. Andy told me that after 9PM anything was fair game but you just know they wouldn't show porn. I think it's hypocritical but I'd probably rather those moments not be shown at all than to add hardcore banging to them. :sweet: American TV is too censored and British TV is too liberal. How's Australian TV? I've had enough of Gordon Ramsay. I don't think he's charming, I think he's not a very nice person. And he encourages that sort of language from his child?! :blink:

I agree with you Fiona. I remember last year, when I was at my Mom's around this time of the year (Halloween), and I think Bravo was showing The 100 Scariest Moments in Movies. They would bleep out the swear words, but they would show some of the most horrifying scenes I've ever seen. I remember seeing this scene from this Korean horror film (can't remember the name) and they showed this one scene that made me very nausious. I switched the station, but I switched back and then saw a scene from Hostel. This is why I don't like Saw or Hostile or movies like that.
I'd prefer to see sex and hear swearing than seeing gore like that on TV.
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Oct 19 2007, 11:46 PM
You can't stop swearing on TV, people swear in everyday life so programs shouldn't be dummed down just because someone doesn't like it.
I'll have to disagree, certainly you wouldn't want swearing on PBS. Can you imagine Big Bird calling Maria a Fu#$ Bi#@h! Would you?
Now you're just being silly choosing children’s TV to get your point across, everyone knows there would and never should be swearing on children’s TV. But by disagreeing, are you saying that there should never be swearing on adult TV?
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Swearing doesn't really bother me at all (i.e. SOPRANOS would be totally lame if Tony didn't say f*ck once in a while!)
American TV for the most part is pretty heavily censored for swearing....They bleeped Sally Field for saying "God damn war"...
And all live TV shows have a 15 second delay so that they can bleep out any infraction.
I think its totally lame.
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Swearing doesn't really bother me at all (i.e. SOPRANOS would be totally lame if Tony didn't say f*ck once in a while!)
American TV for the most part is pretty heavily censored for swearing....They bleeped Sally Field for saying "God damn war"...
And all live TV shows have a 15 second delay so that they can bleep out any infraction.
I think its totally lame.
A little f*ck never hurt anyone! ^_^

Couldn't say it better myself.

Remember how Rob and Laura Petrie slept in twin beds and you never saw them get undressed.

And anybody is nuts to think swearing will become part of children's television.

However, given the choice between swearing and violence, I'd take the swearing any day.
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Oct 21 2007, 12:57 PM
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Oct 19 2007, 11:46 PM
You can't stop swearing on TV, people swear in everyday life so programs shouldn't be dummed down just because someone doesn't like it.

I'll have to disagree, certainly you wouldn't want swearing on PBS. Can you imagine Big Bird calling Maria a Fu#$ Bi#@h! Would you?

I'm quite happy for that sort of thing to be left off children's TV. ;) I was shocked last night when Andy and I were watching 100 Greatest Scary Moments on E4 and they were up for showing anything from these gruesome gorefests. Andy told me that after 9PM anything was fair game but you just know they wouldn't show porn. I think it's hypocritical but I'd probably rather those moments not be shown at all than to add hardcore banging to them. :sweet: American TV is too censored and British TV is too liberal. How's Australian TV? I've had enough of Gordon Ramsay. I don't think he's charming, I think he's not a very nice person. And he encourages that sort of language from his child?! :blink:

I disagree that British TV is too liberal. I believe that people should make up their own minds about what they would like to watch and not have to abide by someone else's definition of morality. There are very few cases where I believe that censorship is acceptable.
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Nations with no tolerance for nudity in programming usually have the most violence. I think there's probably a correlation between accepting violence and loathing the human body.

I'm immune to profanity myself, having grown up with my grandmother. She's like a sailor at port.
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Oct 19 2007, 11:46 PM
You can't stop swearing on TV, people swear in everyday life so programs shouldn't be dummed down just because someone doesn't like it.
I'll have to disagree, certainly you wouldn't want swearing on PBS. Can you imagine Big Bird calling Maria a Fu#$ Bi#@h! Would you?
Now you're just being silly choosing children’s TV to get your point across, everyone knows there would and never should be swearing on children’s TV. But by disagreeing, are you saying that there should never be swearing on adult TV?

The fact that you haven't replied, I'll take that as a yes, you do want swearing on adult TV to be banned.
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Nations with no tolerance for nudity in programming usually have the most violence. I think there's probably a correlation between accepting violence and loathing the human body.

I'm immune to profanity myself, having grown up with my grandmother. She's like a sailor at port.

Great point. Besides folks, our swear words are nothing new. Pick up a copy of the Canterbury Tales, you'll find a vast of them in there. I find we are just in a immature socitey now where if someone lets out a, 'aww F*CK!" everyone has to react like 5 year olds, as, "ooooohhh, you swore!! I'm gonna tell!" Hence why America has the Gestapo FCC, slightly impeading on the First Amendment. So what, people swear, don't like it, CHANGE THE STATION! You have that right.
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Oct 22 2007, 12:49 AM
Nations with no tolerance for nudity in programming usually have the most violence.  I think there's probably a correlation between accepting violence and loathing the human body.

I'm immune to profanity myself, having grown up with my grandmother.  She's like a sailor at port.

Great point. Besides folks, our swear words are nothing new. Pick up a copy of the Canterbury Tales, you'll find a vast of them in there. I find we are just in a immature socitey now where if someone lets out a, 'aww F*CK!" everyone has to react like 5 year olds, as, "ooooohhh, you swore!! I'm gonna tell!" Hence why America has the Gestapo FCC, slightly impeading on the First Amendment. So what, people swear, don't like it, CHANGE THE STATION! You have that right.

Actually now you mention it, Geoff Chaucer was a racy b*stard, wasn't he? :lol:
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i swear all the time

even my mom has gotten used to me saying it

but i must admit i never swore at home until i turned 15
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I swear all the time too Nick, especially in the car

Have to curb it around Lennon though
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My parents had to curb it around me when I started swearing as soon as I could talk. :lol:
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