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| Aimee Wilbury | Sep 12 2007, 06:13 PM Post #1 |
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Today, during class, I was feeling dizzy...and then I fell out of my seat. Luckily, I landed on a mat (instead of the floor). From what I heard, I banged my head and MIGHT HAVE knocked me out for a few seconds. They had several teachers come up. they made me stay there so I wouldn't fall again. and they literally had to wheel me out of the school. Mom took me to the hospital. I waited 3 hours before leaving. They called one lady who had a little cut on her cheek 'emergency'. I think its because I'm young. Since when is a little cut an emergency, but somebody smashing their head not? |
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| JeffLynnesBeard | Sep 12 2007, 10:14 PM Post #2 |
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Sorry to hear about your bad day. Perhaps the person who was given the attention for the cut thinks that the hospital is efficient? The order in which people get seen in emergency rooms has always been beyond me. I try to trust that they're well-trained, professional medical staff and that they have a specific way to prioritise. Either that or they just make it up as they go along. Who knows - it's also worth remembering you can't always tell what is wrong with somebody from the outside.
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| Bill | Sep 13 2007, 02:42 AM Post #3 |
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It's a question of who is the most stable. I remember when I was about 12 I got a fishbone stuck in my throat. I waited about 2 hours to be seen to and in the time, a girl was brought in who had (accidentally) had her head split open with a tennis raquet. She was seen ahead of me. Fair enough too, poor thing. The point is that people who work there are trained to assess someone's needs and while it's no fun to be left waiting, if someone is treated ahead of you, it's because they need to be.
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| maccascruff | Sep 13 2007, 02:50 AM Post #4 |
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No, you can't always tell what is happening in the ER. You don't always know how many ambulances have arrived either. I've been to the ER four times in my life. First visit was for rectal bleeding. Was taken by ambulance and kept overnight as I was full of morphine. Had to call a friend to take me home. Second visit was for the same thing. After getting the ambulance bill, I drove myself. Got yelled at big time by hospital staff for that. I was wearing a robe and bleeding profusely. Blood running down my legs, so they got me to a room right away. Not seen for quite a while. Seems like forever when you are alone and in pain. Told it was probably cancer and had surgery the next morning. Thankfully, a friend came after I called. She now tells me that I signed those papers for the surgery under the influence of morphine and had no idea of what I was doing. Third time was probably two years ago now. More colon bleeding and I freaked out. Waited over three hours to be seen--even with my history. Said it wasn't serious and sent me home--at 6 AM. I kept telling them I had to get home so I could go to work the next day. Never made it to work that day. Fourth time was last Sunday. Fairly new hospital--not the same as the other three times. They have 15 regular rooms and two trauma rooms. Got in to a room in about 15 minutes and was home in 90 minutes. Felt very well treated. Think it had a lot to do with the number of rooms. This one had a lot more privacy. Rooms with walls instead of drapes. Couldn't hear much, which was nice. Could hear a child screaming, which wasn't nice. |
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| Aimee Wilbury | Sep 13 2007, 12:33 PM Post #5 |
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I went to the free clinic last night. I have a lot of earwax in one hear and none in the other. as well as the flu... :hmm: EDIT: Mom says she saw the doctors in the hospital eating cake in the back room... :hmm: :hmm: :hmm: |
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| JeffLynnesBeard | Sep 13 2007, 12:35 PM Post #6 |
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Well that'd certainly explain the loss of balance you've been experiencing recently. Hope you feel better soon.
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| vidgamerjon | Sep 13 2007, 01:24 PM Post #7 |
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Maybe those particular doctors were on break? |
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| Aimee Wilbury | Sep 13 2007, 01:33 PM Post #8 |
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I don't know. I have another appointment today. I might ask for a blood test just to be safe. EDIT: Just asked my mom. they do blood tests at the hospital. She says we'll get an appointment. |
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| Deleted User | Sep 13 2007, 02:16 PM Post #9 |
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Did you at least get offered a slice of cake?
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| Aimee Wilbury | Sep 13 2007, 04:50 PM Post #10 |
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No, I didn't get cake. I got a bunch of medications. I'm getting blood tests tomorrow. I hope it's nothing. |
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| Blondie10 | Sep 13 2007, 05:11 PM Post #11 |
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I think most emergency rooms are understaffed and overloaded with emergencies....I've not yet had a bad experience...except the time I went in with a broken leg...they x-rayed me and said NOTHING was broken but I should go to regular doctor on Monday...turns out my entire tibia and fibula (calf bone) where broken clean thru!! :hmm: In emenrency they only x-rayed my ankle!!
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| LadyMacca | Sep 13 2007, 05:33 PM Post #12 |
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When I was involved in a head on collison (very minor, was only going 45mph but enough to split my head open), I came to the hospital by Ambulance, I was put into a room straight away but waited forever and a freaking day for a doctor to come and look at me. But when they did come, I got a through exam. I wasn't wearing my seatbelt, and well given it was a head on, alot more damage could have happened. Luckily, I just got a gash to my head, 7 stitches and badly bruised legs and arms. ALWAYS WEAR YOUR SEATBELT! .. I know I do. |
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| JeffLynnesBeard | Sep 14 2007, 01:14 AM Post #13 |
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Well exactly. Even doctors are entitled to a break!
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| ogoble | Sep 14 2007, 01:22 AM Post #14 |
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I was in an emergency room a few years back with only 2 other people. It took almost 4 hours before the doctor came in to check on me. We could see him sitting in a room with his feet propped up on a desk reading a newspaper. One patient came in almost nonresponsive from a drug overdose. Her mom yelled for the doctor, but he said he couldn't see her or do anything until her paperwork was completed.....America! |
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| maccascruff | Sep 14 2007, 02:09 AM Post #15 |
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And the health care system here, right? |
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| ogoble | Sep 14 2007, 03:23 AM Post #16 |
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Have you ever noticed on TV...movies...etc., anytime someone is taken into the E.R., doctors & nurses rush in and take care of them. If it were Reality TV, an emergency visit would last hours.
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| audrey | Sep 14 2007, 04:00 AM Post #17 |
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let me address this post and play the devils advocate first and foremost the only time we sit around and eat cake is when we are on a break and more often than not i have been known to work a 12 hour shift with only a 30 minute lunch break..................so next they had to wheel you out of there cuz of laws, you fell, passed out and even if you could have danced out, they HAD to wheel you out second (or third depending on whose counting what)if you could go home and your mom could then taken you to the hospital, (and you did not require an ambulance) then perhaps you could help unclog the system somewhat for using the emergency room for what it is for. a doctors appointment could have fixed the ear, ordered the lab work and gotton the order for a ct of the head if they felt that needed...........you see an urgent care clinic or a physicians office would have suited your needs much better and would have probably saved some money and would have left the emergency room for the heart attacks, the bleeds, the strokes and the other true emergency conditions one additional note, although it is the first thing to get us in trouble, we do sometimes tend to down scale the severity of the frequent flyer, soimething about that crying wolf story that rings all too true my advice is to save the er for the real emergencies......were you continueing to have signs and symptoms, had abnormal vital signs or (this always gets you right in ) passed out in the er, we would have brought you back pronto not that you didnt need to be seen amy, but the emergency rooms are so impacted and overworked that the things that could have been seen at clinics and offices, tend to be placed in a lower priority, youwill never know how many ambulances entered |
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| lit'l willow | Sep 14 2007, 04:05 AM Post #18 |
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Excellent post and overview, Audrey... (but you knew that already :lol: ;)).....as one who's spouse is WAY involved in the American health care system, I applaud your exemplary post and your sharing your objective viewpoint.....
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| LadyMacca | Sep 14 2007, 04:09 AM Post #19 |
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Yes I second that, awesome post Audrey
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| jayjay | Sep 14 2007, 05:25 AM Post #20 |
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I've had many experiences in the ER, as well as hospitals overall with my 2 daughters who have alot of medical history. My emergency room experiences have been satisfactory, although they do not have a problem leaving you in the hallway until they can get you a room, but that's not the ER's fault. That's just too many patients and no one's fault. My biggest complaints have been the overall communications in the hospital and between the doctors. I could tell you stories that would make your jaw drop, but won't go into that now. Audrey has an excellent point though... I always go to urgent care if it's possible... although passing out, is that something a typical after hours urgent care center would address? Sorry about your bad experience though... |
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| FamousGroupie | Sep 14 2007, 07:36 AM Post #21 |
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Aimee's original post says that she MAY HAVE knocked herself out - so even that is in question. Again, I'm not saying that you didn't need to be seen Aimee, just maybe not at the ER. |
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| Aimee Wilbury | Sep 14 2007, 12:50 PM Post #22 |
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I had a blood test today. I also had to pee in a little jar. I'm not sure if I knocked myself out. I remember laying on the floor, stunned. |
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| audrey | Sep 14 2007, 10:17 PM Post #23 |
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dont let mypost indicate what so ever that you dont need to be followed up amiee, so be sure to do all the tests they order and all the other stuff recommended cuz normally people dont just wake up on the floor.......... hopefully all will be well, hang in there though, i know the emergency room can be a frustrating and exasperating experience |
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| beatlechick | Sep 14 2007, 11:25 PM Post #24 |
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Unfortunately where I live, and I know it is true in many places, there are not urgent care centers unless you want to drive for miles. I had a fever, one night, of nearly 104 for a few hours. The only place I could go to in the middle of the night was my f*cking provider's hospital's er. For those of you in the US, this hmo is well known and not necessarily for doing a good job. Kaiser Permanente. I was pretty ill but they put me in an er room with someone who thought they were having a heart attack and NO ONE WAS THERE ATTENDING!!! Here I am, someone who is highly contagious and I am in a room with someone that very much needed, or thought they did, medical care and was in a room with a virus-laden person. Good job Kaiser. Fortunately for that person, it apparently was an anxiety attack. For me, all they did was look down my throat and say "Due to the mucus in your throat we have to assume you have strep throat!" No throat cultures, nothing but their assumption. Luckily for me, my fever broke on my way home. I no longer have Kaiser but have a plan where I can go anywhere. Unfortunately we do not have any clinics and urgent care centers and nothing but our local hospital open in the middle of the night. I do have doctors but when you break your wrist at 10:30 at night, you have no other choice but go to the er. |
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| maccascruff | Sep 15 2007, 01:07 AM Post #25 |
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I had to use the ER on Sunday, too, because all the Urgent Care facilities around here are not covered by my insurance. So, there I was, head bleeding profusely, looking in my provider book to see if the hospital a few blocks from where I live was in network. Luckily, it was and I guess bleeding from the head was a valid reason to go to the ER. I knew I'd get put behind heart attacks, etc., but that must not have happened since I was only there about 90 minutes. |
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| audrey | Sep 15 2007, 01:15 AM Post #26 |
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oh the horror stories i could tell, this is a good version, but going to the er, day or night sucks mostly for the patient that has to be there but even more so if you are in a rural area that doesnt offer many options point well taken |
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| maccascruff | Sep 15 2007, 01:17 AM Post #27 |
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Did I do wrong on a Sunday, Audrey, with a bleeding head and doctor's office closed? I felt I had nowhere else to go but the ER. |
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| temptresss | Sep 15 2007, 07:06 PM Post #28 |
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what audrey said. emergencies are LIFE THREATENING situations. not earwax buildup. i am sure you are nearly a permanent fixture at that hospital ER, aimee, and so, of course crying wolf falls on mute ears eventually. |
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| Aimee Wilbury | Sep 15 2007, 07:33 PM Post #29 |
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I didn't know WHY I fell! I might have had a head injury! Or a very bad virus! I didn't find out about the earwax until I got to see a doctor! :angry: |
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| BlueMolly2009 | Sep 15 2007, 08:11 PM Post #30 |
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I agree with Linda, if the doctor's office is closed and there is no other place to go what are you supposed to do bleed to death because of an injury? So, I guess I shouldn't have gone to the hospital 2 years ago when I was vomitting (sorry for getting graphic) for 3 days in a row. I didn't have a doctor at the time and I thought it would be more convienet since the hospital was right acorss the street from me. But I guess I was wrong for doing that even though they found out I had gastritis. |
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| BlueMolly2009 | Sep 15 2007, 08:15 PM Post #31 |
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aimee, you should have found an out patient clinic instead of going to the ER. THAT is one thing I agree with audrey with Tempty on this one. I know I sound like I'm contradicting myself, but I didn't read your response until now. They won't take you so seriously if you keep going to the ER. There must be an out patient clinic near you, most places do have them. They aren't 24/7, but they do take not emergencies. |
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| LadyMacca | Sep 15 2007, 08:35 PM Post #32 |
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yup, gotta agree with Molly with this one. For most of the things thats happened to me, non life threatening I mean, i've been to urgent care. The only time i've been to the hospital is when I got into a car accident. |
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| Aimee Wilbury | Sep 15 2007, 08:50 PM Post #33 |
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There are no out-patient clinics, except for one that opens at 5 PM. I collapsed shortly before noon. Should I have risked waiting 5 hours, when I had no idea what was wrong? Plus it was mom's idea. Not mine. in fact, the TEACHER said I ought to go to the hospital. |
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| temptresss | Sep 15 2007, 08:56 PM Post #34 |
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then you should have gone to a normal doctor. just call and tell him/her that you fell and were concerned as to why. i highly doubt he would have sent you to an ER. in fact, if he felt it were important he might have made room for you on his daily schedule. not EVERYTHING is an emergency. (if i were to go to an ER everytime i fell, i'd be a permanent resident -- ok, so i'm clumsy! )the people suffering with heart attacks or strokes need to come first. not a 14 year old who fell down unless you were bleeding profusely and unconscious. STOP OBSESSING ABOUT YOUR HEALTH...when you are older you won't have a choice....THEN your body falls apart. |
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| LadyMacca | Sep 15 2007, 09:00 PM Post #35 |
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Aint that the f*cking truth! .. I shouldn't be saying that at 26 either. But I do agree with what's been said here. Heart-Attacks, Strokes, Car Accidents (if bleeding that is) Gun Shots, Stabbings and Life-Threatning Trauma's should go to the ER. Colds, Flu's, etc etc, Out patient facility .. aka Urgent Care. |
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| Aimee Wilbury | Sep 15 2007, 09:07 PM Post #36 |
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I HAD NO IDEA WHAT WAS WRONG WITH ME!!!! |
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| temptresss | Sep 15 2007, 09:13 PM Post #37 |
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then call a doctor...most people DON'T know what's wrong with them. they don't ALL go to the ER. sheesh...(some things never change). (and remember, for a long time you keep telling us that everything you have is life-threatening...) |
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| Aimee Wilbury | Sep 15 2007, 09:15 PM Post #38 |
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You CANNOT go to the doctors without an appointment. You need a few days notice for an appointment. The ONLY walk-in clinic opens at 5 PM. |
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| beatlechick | Sep 15 2007, 09:40 PM Post #39 |
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You can just walk into a doctor's office. I have done that many times. No appts just walked in. |
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| beatlechick | Sep 15 2007, 09:45 PM Post #40 |
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Audrey, remember how Ahhnniee wanted to cut our California health budget even more? Boy did he rightfully get slaughtered on that one. More trauma and urgent care centers would have closed and we don't have that many anymore anyway. |
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| maccascruff | Sep 15 2007, 11:30 PM Post #41 |
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Can't go to urgent care if there isn't one in my insurance plan, it's Sunday and my head is bleeding. So, I went to the ER. I don't think it was wrong and they didn't tell me it was wrong. I would have gone to my doctor if it had been at a time when he is open. A lot of days, my doctor is only open for 3 hours, but he will work current patients in. |
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| Bill | Sep 16 2007, 03:40 AM Post #42 |
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I think the moral of the story here is that there's always someone worse off than yourself. Be happy about that. |
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| Adilah | Sep 16 2007, 04:50 AM Post #43 |
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Indeed. Any time my sister had to wait in an emergency room was because the person before her was unable to complain about waiting. All my visits to our emergency rooms with my sister were very efficient. She was usually seen immediately by a team of doctors and nurses the moment she entered the facility. If she did wait it was because someone else was in a more dire situation. At some times they came to her. The care she received was always professional, prompt and attentive. Americans may not want to read this, but there is never a fee. |
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| JeffLynnesBeard | Sep 16 2007, 09:27 AM Post #44 |
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I get the feeling, reading this, that aimee feels a little 'ganged up' on. Let's not forget that aimee is a minor and the decision as to where to send her was out of her hands and her mother opted to take her, rightly or wrongly, to ER. It's all very well saying to her that she should have gone some place else for treatment, but there's not much point when she's not the one making those kind of decisions. There are certainly much better options than the ER for many ailments, but if that is your only option and you need treatment then that is the fault of the local authority and/or healthcare facilities and they're risking overloading an already stretched-to-the-limit resource. ER staff have a difficult enough job without having minor illnesses to tend to as well. |
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| Aimee Wilbury | Sep 16 2007, 11:47 AM Post #45 |
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It was so bad that I couldn't even stand. If I wasn't in the wheelchair, I would have kept falling. |
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| Deleted User | Sep 16 2007, 05:26 PM Post #46 |
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I went to an emergency room once, had a very bad headache. Nurse let me know that they were busy and didn't have time to help someone with a silly headache. I said I was in pain and wanted to see a doctor. Waited two hours then they took my blood pressure, it was 190 over 120 (or something like that, was 10 years ago). Immediately I had a doctor giving me an IV. The ER is there for emergencies, you know your body better then anyone. If you think its an emergency, go. Too many dead people who thought it could wait. |
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| BlueMolly2009 | Sep 16 2007, 05:42 PM Post #47 |
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Yeah, it may not seem like an emergency to someone, it may be an emergency to you. A headache could be a blood hemerage, a tumor you didn't know about or just a regular headache. When I was sick two years ago, I started vomitting blood, so I had to go to the ER. |
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| temptresss | Sep 16 2007, 07:01 PM Post #48 |
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yes, aimee is a minor, etc. etc. but aimee habitually visits guestbooks/forums with her hypochondria. it gets tiring. when she started coming to the GW forum one of her first entries was, "i might not be back coz i think i'm dying"...SEVERAL entries were the same. it gets old fast. |
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| beatlechick | Sep 16 2007, 07:15 PM Post #49 |
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It may get old but perhaps we, and I'm talking about the internet community as a whole, are the only ones she can really talk to. The old adage of not reading a thread or a particular poster probably stands to this very well. Yes she may be a bit of a hypochondriac but falling and hitting your head can be quite dangerous if it isn't taken care of. When it comes to your head, no need for taking chances which is why her teachers probably thought it best she go to the er. |
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| temptresss | Sep 16 2007, 08:00 PM Post #50 |
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not just "a bit of a hypochondriac"... anyway, i don't mean to make light of it. i'm not even in the medical profession but it's always peeved me when people use it as though it were a fast food service. it's just 'more convenient' for some. |
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| Aimee Wilbury | Sep 16 2007, 08:46 PM Post #51 |
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next time you smash your head on the floor, how about you just go home? |
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| temptresss | Sep 16 2007, 08:53 PM Post #52 |
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argh...i'm going to work now but you originally said you fell down and didn't even know if you hit your head. forget it, the list goes on and on... |
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| Aimee Wilbury | Sep 16 2007, 09:24 PM Post #53 |
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I know I wasn't sure. I've heard about people falling like I did, and they almost died.
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| BlueMolly2009 | Sep 16 2007, 10:37 PM Post #54 |
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Aimee, you just vieing for attention now. Quit while you're ahead. People will get tired of it after awhile. We don't want to pick on you, but you keep saying things that contradict yourself. And you act so immature. Yeah, I know you're a teenager, but most teens I know act more mature than you do, at times. |
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| maccascruff | Sep 17 2007, 01:43 AM Post #55 |
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I've never encountered aimee elsewhere, but this is actually getting tiring. |
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| FamousGroupie | Sep 17 2007, 01:49 AM Post #56 |
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You're telling me. And as I'm not likely to hold back on what I really think, I've avoided this thread. |
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| JeffLynnesBeard | Sep 17 2007, 01:55 AM Post #57 |
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I'd like our members to note the following; Those who want to talk to aimee about her ailments & experiences, please do. Those who don't, give threads like this a wide berth. Although it is possible that people may have a point with some of their observations, I don't think that it's a particularly positive thing for people to be lining up to criticise a 15-year old member who has already been open with us and explained that she has Asperger's Syndrome. If a supposedly open-minded and friendly community like ours makes somebody who is a little different to 'normal' people (whatever normal may be!) feel unwelcome, then I think we've let ourselves down. If you are happy to converse with her about this kind of thing, then feel free, if not then please simply pass threads like this by without comment. Just a little tolerance, that's all I'm asking.
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| Adilah | Sep 17 2007, 05:17 AM Post #58 |
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I agree completely, except I think she recently became 17, not 15. She said her birthday was on the holiday Labour Day and was also born this day, so she cannot possibly be 15. This may only be a minor point, but I know when I was 17 I would not want to have been confused with 15. |
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| Aimee Wilbury | Sep 17 2007, 10:28 AM Post #59 |
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I was only going by what mom told me. I was born in 1992, unless my birth certificate lied. |
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| BlueMolly2009 | Sep 17 2007, 11:22 AM Post #60 |
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Well, Aimee, your Mom I guess did what she thought was right. |
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| Blondie10 | Sep 17 2007, 04:46 PM Post #61 |
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Well then it's GOOD you went...GLAD your ok.....end of story I suppose.... YOu definatley DO have a problem...and I wish you the best!! whatever your problem is! |
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| Aimee Wilbury | Sep 17 2007, 06:08 PM Post #62 |
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STOP CHANGING THIS ADMINS
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LOL, one of the teachers said she can't stand blood tests.
and that I did much better than her.When I felt it go on, I thought the doctor put it in wrong at first, and he was gonna have to put it back in. It barely hurt. |
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