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Lissa (mozart8mytoe)
Topic Started: Aug 22 2007, 08:57 AM (18,392 Views)
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Lissa

It is my very sad duty to tell you all that Lissa, known here as mozart8mytoe, passed away on Monday 20th August, 2007.

Lissa was in China to visit her daughter. On Thursday morning her car collided with a local bus on a small highway in Hunan. Because of recent weather conditions no one noticed the accident until the next bus came through Friday afternoon. Lissa and 4 to 7 bus passengers were evacuated to a trauma facility in Hengyang that evening. Her driver as well as the bus driver and 22 or more passengers were pronounced dead at the scene.

Reverend Dave was able to visit her at the hospital Sunday afternoon. By then she'd been transferred to a more advanced hospital in Chengsha and had multiple surgeries to repair her duodenum and cecum, remove most of her ileum and descending colon and they did a peritoneal lavage. They also had to amputate her right leg just above the knee. When he saw her she was alert and understood her situation. She asked Dave to contact her family and joked that she ''always wanted some symmetry, but this is ridiculous'' (because of her left toe).

Her father and sister were able to visit her on Monday. She passed away Monday night. The official cause of death was peritonitis caused by trauma.

I know that everyone here is probably in shock, I know that I am. Lissa was smart, wickedly funny and it was a real pleasure and privilege to know her. I can’t believe I’m using the word ’was’ about her. My heart also goes out to her newly adopted daughter who found a mother and then had her taken away. Life is so very cruel.

I’d like to thank Reverend Dave for informing us. He is available to contact for anyone who would like to talk about this or has any questions. You can contact him at harvardbushiban@yahoo.com or by phone on +8869-2418-9505. He will be able to reply to e-mails a lot easier than PMs here.

Of course, if anyone would like to talk to me about this, then they’re very welcome, but I don’t have any more information than is in the statement above.

With sympathy and condolences to you all,

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Oh my good Christ, I am in shock. I don't know quite what to say at the moment, other than pass my condolences on to her family and friends. Thankyou, Andy, and Reverend Dave for letting us know.

Lissa was a very valued member of Strawberry Fields, and her wit and talent will be sorely missed here.

Rest in Peace Lissa. You were a good egg.

I feel like I should say more, but I just can't at the moment.
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Oh my good Christ, I am in shock. I don't know quite what to say at the moment, other than pass my condolences on to her family and friends. Thankyou, Andy, and Reverend Dave for letting us know.

Lissa was a very valued member of Strawberry Fields, and her wit and talent will be sorely missed here.

Rest in Peace Lissa. You were a good egg.

I feel like I should say more, but I just can't at the moment.

Oh my god, me too. I'm shaking. :cry:
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Oh god.

I don't even know what to say.
I wished I could save her in some sort of time machine.
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I'm speechless at the moment, I wasn't expecting that :(
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I don't post here often, but just checked in here today, only to find this exceedingly sad news....so very sorry to hear it. :(

From what I'd always seen, Mozart8mytoe's 'pull no punches', thought-provoking contributions to this board were always the most perfectly delightful mixture of intelligence (first and foremost) and conscience, and often contained some of the most shrewd wit I've ever seen. I literally laughed out loud at more than a post or two of hers, and I personally will miss reading her perspective, and seeing her posts in general on this forum.

Thanks for sharing the sad news, Andy....no easy task, I'm sure. :(
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OMG, I'm in tears now. Lissa was one of my favorite people here. She was smart, sarcastic and just plain fun. She had a sense of humor some didn't "get," but I usually got. She was too young to die.

Bye, bye, my sweet friend. I will miss you. :cry: :cry: :cry:
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So true.

Rest in Peace, Lissa.

I wished I could save her in some sort of time machine.
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It is very sad news :(

Rest In Peace Lissa :(

Thanks for the pm ((((Andy))))
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How incredible sad. I'm at a loss for words.

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(I like to think she knew that!)
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Aug 22 2007, 01:18 PM
It is very sad news :(

Rest In Peace Lissa :(

Thanks for the pm ((((Andy))))

You're welcome - thank you for the thread on pm.com, Sarah, it's very much appreciated. I'm sure there will be many people on Paul's official site who will remember her.

I wish that I had got to know her on a bit more of a personal level, but I certainly regarded her as a friend and someone I respected and liked greatly.
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Oh my God-I am speechless and in shock as everyone else is.
I enjoyed her posts and her sense of humor.
I don't know what to say about this terrible tragedy.
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I am totally speechless and in shock. I am so very saddened to hear this. :cry:

I loved her posts and the PMs we shared. Lissa, you will be much missed by all who loved you and that includes me. Rest in peace, my friend.
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I don't have much more to add myself that others haven't already, but I too am just horrified and shocked by this!

I admired Lissa's spirit, sense of humor and intelligence a great deal. I just find it so very hard to believe that she is gone! :cry:

Thank you for letting us know, Andy...and Reverend Dave.

My heart goes out to her family and the little daughter she had adopted.



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OH GOD.....Opening this post I NEVER expected to hear this horrible sad news... I feel sick....I don't know what to say...

She is a champion using wit in the hospital while so critically injured...I'm really at a loss for words... I'm chilled ... :( :cry: :cry: :cry:

JESUS....I CAN"T BELIEVE THIS!!! :cry: :cry: :cry:

My thoughts to her adopted daughter and to her family...what awful news....

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OH MY GOD!

I read a maginificent post from her just the other day and thought what an intelligent person this was.

This is a shocker, and makes us ALL consider our own mortality.

MANY, MANY condolences from both V&G to all those close to her, and who loved her.

Very sad news.
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I can't believe this. I didn't know her well, but always enjoyed reading her posts. She was so funny, charming, intelligent, & bright. So talented. Prayers to all who knew her, loved her, cherished her. I'm just so stunned..............
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I would like to add that over the short time that I knew her, Lissa always showed love and compassion to many.

During the time of my 'hiatus' from the forums, she sent me a humorous email asking me to let her know how I was, and I was always astonished at her underlying kindness and humanitarianism. I wondered how someone who was obviously a celebrity in her own right, and very talented, would even care about ME, just another person on the forums, but that shows the kind of person she was.

I've been re-reading some of her posts, both here and at Paul's forum, and it just brings tears to my eyes that she is no longer with us. I keep wishing that this is all just an elaborate hoax or sick joke, and that she will be back, but I know that isn't to be.

Lissa, you will be very much missed. I only wish I had gotten to know you better!


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Are you serious?? Maybe... she didn't really die?!?! I've heard of people who seemed dead but they were alive...!!!!

Or maybe there's been a mistake?? Maybe something went wrong and the...
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Well, here's another clue for you all, the Walrus was Paul...
Like so many others...I sit here reading these posts...with tears in my eyes.
I didn't 'know' Lissa...but I admired her, and always found myself looking for mozart8mytoe when reading posts.
So sad...so unfair...such a loss.
Unbelievable.
Peace be with you, Lissa....we will miss you. :(

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I know this has to be true as you would never post something like this but I just can't believe it.
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Are you serious?? Maybe... she didn't really die?!?! I've heard of people who seemed dead but they were alive...!!!!

Or maybe there's been a mistake?? Maybe something went wrong and the...

I realise this is shocking news and difficult to accept, but I'm afraid that it is true - the details are quite explicit and tragically so.
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Oh my gosh. I just can't believe it. I going to miss her witt and her funny comment she posts. I use love to read them for they would make me laugh when I was feeling down.
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right now it hard for me to take in. She was so, smart and bright. :cry:
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I am deeply shocked and saddened at this news to the point of just feeling numb :cry: Like so many of you, I just can't believe this!

Lissa was someone I had always wanted to know more about. Her wit, talent, and intelligence were incomparable. She always knew how to tell it like it is and never held back! A truely unique person. What a tragic loss. :cry:

Thank you, Reverend Dave and Andy, for letting us know about her. My heart goes out to her family and little girl. :(
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Unbelievable.

Absolutely unbelievable.

I'm, I'm having a hard time swallowing this. Lissa will be missed, and she will be remembered by anybody who knew her, in real life or even just on an online messageboard. I know I won't forget her. She one of my very favourite people here - so smart, so talented, so brilliantly funny. A girl like Lissa doesn't come around every day. Her poor little girl, this is absolutely... "awful", "horrible", "tragic" don't seem words even remotely strong enough to describe what's happened here. At least thank you Dave, and thank you Andy, for letting us know. Rest in peace, Lissa. Wow... :( :cry:
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There is an 'angelfire' site of Lissa's which, if any of you haven't seen before, contain some of her photography and also her recommendations and loves in classical music. It's a nice snapshot of part of her personality and at least depicts what a full and cultured life Lissa led, albeit far too short.

http://www.angelfire.com/la3/mozart8mytoe/
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R.I.P Lissa.

I admit I didn't know you very well but your posts always made me smile or even laugh.


You will be missed greatly

Good bye and may your soul be at peace.



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This news is just horrible. I am so saddened to think of the tragedy of such a loss. I always found myself reading her posts because they always made me laugh. I had so many times that I would check-in and wouldn't feel like posting but she would inevitably put a smile on my face. She had such an unusual sense of humor.

Thanks, Andy, for informing us and thanks too, to Rev. Dave. I hope, in the next few days, we can learn more about Lissa's life. I'm sure I wasn't the only one who was curious about her. I would love to know how old she was, what she did for a living, and all about her daughter. Was it her only child? Where was she from? I want to remember her in fondness and feel like I knew her better than I did. I have a feeling she was even more amazing than we realize. I will miss her from our SF family.
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Oh god, I'm so sorry and sad to hear this news....my deepest condoleances to her family!

I never posted with her a lot but I do remember some of her posts. It's just so horrible to lose someone like this. I'm at a loss for words :cry: :(
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Thank you, (((Andy))), I wasn't even aware that she'd had a site.

Just wish that she'd have shared a little bit more about herself there.


Beautiful photographs!

I used to go to the classical sections in book stores, trying to unravel the 'mystery' of who Lissa was, but I never could find anything. I wanted to buy at least one of her CD's.


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This news is just horrible. I am so saddened to think of the tragedy of such a loss. I always found myself reading her posts because they always made me laugh. I had so many times that I would check-in and wouldn't feel like posting but she would inevitably put a smile on my face. She had such an unusual sense of humor.

Thanks, Andy, for informing us and thanks too, to Rev. Dave. I hope, in the next few days, we can learn more about Lissa's life. I'm sure I wasn't the only one who was curious about her. I would love to know how old she was, what she did for a living, and all about her daughter. Was it her only child? Where was she from? I want to remember her in fondness and feel like I knew her better than I did. I have a feeling she was even more amazing than we realize. I will miss her from our SF family.

As I type this I want to assure everyone (probably needlessly) that these are just words. I can't convey what I'm truly thinking and feeling as I'm sure none of us can but I am very aware of the meaninglessness of these few typed words.

I don't know how big a part of Lissa's life this board was but I know she was a huge part of this board's (and, by the same token, mine and Andy's) life. She made her place in this community and commanded the respect of everyone who was lucky enough to cross paths with her during battle or peacetime here on the board and I am sure everywhere else. I'm sure she would scoff at the compliments and, as Lauren suggested, want us to have a laugh around her 'legacy' (she once even spoke of her discomfort at consoling others in times like these) but she will just have to allow us this time of grief which I am sure is incomparable to that which is felt by her family.

It is hard to believe that such recent posts made by her will never be properly replied to and that we have lost such a unique person that we will notice the difference from now on. I was so looking forward to some of her contributions for the rest of this year.

As for her personal life, she certainly did keep us guessing and that was part of her charm. I believe she was a classical pianist for the New York Philharmonic, originally from Holland and being in the final stages of adopting her first child from China. As for her age, I have her in my mind as being very young, perhaps only in her 20's but none of the things I've listed can I be sure about. Perhaps someone will clarify. In any case, this must be especially hard on two of our boardmembers - Reverend Dave and Adilah. I am sorry for them, sorry for her that she suffered so (but it's just like her to exit with such a bang - I can only hope she was not too afraid), sorry those she left behind and sorry for the world who has lost a great contributor to it's well-being. And let's face it, if God can take out someone as strong as her, we're all screwed.
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I just dont know what to say

never saw this coming :cry:
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I'd like to request if nobody else has already, for some of her posts, there are a lot of us who only have these as memories of her and as long as it's ok with Andy And Fiona then i was wondering if it was possible to make a thread dedicated to her with some of her posts from the better times.
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I'm in tears reading this thread.

I will post more in a bit

RIP Lissa :cry:
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Very, very sad news. I would like to add my sincerest condolences to her family, and friends.

I didn't know Lissa all that well, but it was impossible not to know of her.

Like many people here, I thought she was mysterious in some ways and someone whom you would have liked to have known more about.

I think all our messages here, and that we have all been thinking about her just show that this is not just 'the internet', but that people truly, truly form relationships with people on boards such as this.

Rest in peace.
Maybe she's with mummy now..

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I never really knew her or spoke with her but this is a shock and a tragedy to all concerned and i just don't know what to say. i don't think anything can be said.

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She was so very, very alive. The thought that I won't see her incredibly witty, fantastic posts again... and her poor daughter. Is human mortality really so insecure? I feel such a strong sense of lose, which is strange because I never even truly met her. I can't even talk to anyone outside this bored about this, no one I know in real life has ever heard her mentioned.
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The suddenness is particularly shocking. I am not sure the internet Beatles community has really witnessed something like this in a very long time, if ever.

Nick, any tribute you wish to take upon yourself I am sure would be welcomed. If it's something you'd like the moderating team to put together, just give us a while to mull it over. This is a bit of a stressful time.
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Mozart8mytoe quote:


I have lived with money and without, and from my experience I can easily say that money does not buy happiness. But it is an excellent way to buy groceries.


She was Intelligent and witty....and I"ve just noticed in that thread...she made a post to me and I MISSED it and did not reply.... :( :(
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Mozart8mytoe quote:


I have lived with money and without, and from my experience I can easily say that money does not buy happiness. But it is an excellent way to buy groceries.


She was Intelligent and witty....and I"ve just noticed in that thread...she made a post to me and I MISSED it and did not reply.... :( :(

We're going to really miss her wicked sense of humor. I'll have to remember that quote!
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I did not "know" her, but as I said before, I always enjoyed her posts and wonderful sense of humor.

If we can learn anything from this tragedy, as a community and as an individual, it should be to be grateful for what we have, and love those around us, as if it were our last day.......

Sadly, Lissa did not have that opportunity....... :(
This is such a sad day.
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I am sure Lissa lived her days to the fullest. And I am sure right now Saint Peter is shaking his head and saying to himself "now that is a lively one". Heaven forbid they don't size her wings right.
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It is terrible. She always impressed me with her intelligent posts. So sad:(
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I'm still in shock over this. Earlier, the song, "Candle on the Water" from the movie, "Pete's Dragon" came on and I burst into tears. I know it's a love song, but it is also very sad.
I had a feeling Lissa was in her mid/late 20s or early 30s. I didn't realize though she was trying to adopt a baby though. Now that's really tragic. The daughter she was going to adopt will never know what a wonderful and loving person Lissa was.
Andy, thank you for showing us the website. She was one creative woman.

I've been through something like this before, but instead of someone being killed, they commited suicide. It's good to have a group like this to be able to come and share your thoughts. A tragedy like this is not something people should deal with alone.
For anyone who needs a shoulder to cry on, feel free to PM me here. I'm more than happy to listen. :hug:
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:o holy jesus!

This is incredibly shocking to hear.. I really do not know what to say!
Except that my prayers and sympathy go out to her family.

Will miss ya Lissa :cry:
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A shinning Star that shine with magical words. Who dance with her intelligent though out the board. However, she shared Laughter that I will always remember. Her Zany joke made me choke with laughter. I hope to see her in the here after. I will miss her I fear, for she was adored and never a bore. This goes to the heart core. I hope she is looking down above. So, she, can see how much she was loved.

I will forever miss you Lissa :cry:
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Oh my goodness...

After reading through all of this, with tears in my eyes, I am shocked... and stunned.
I really have nothing to add here that hasn't already been said. My heart goes out to everyone who knew Lissa. The world will be a much quieter place without her.
What a long, strange trip it's been....
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really makes you think, this place isn't just a internet forum its like a club or a little country, where everyone is as important as everyone else (regardless of post numbers, or rank) and that one person's death will affect us all.
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back on after a few days away, and this is the first thing that hits me, Im sick and tired of hearing of these tragic accidents, the third one in a month, one of which was my young nephew ''just 23 years old'

I can only echo all of your kind words said about Lissa.

What a Traumatic time it is now for her family and friends

RIP nice Lady
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:( Her birthday was Sept 1. I wonder how old she would have been. :(

I feel so sad over this horrible tragedy. :cry:
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I read the first post of this thread and my immediate reaction was that this can't be real. It's just too horrible. Lissa was not only brilliant and full of wit... she had more balls than anyone I've ever known, and I've never met her.

I keep seeing news threads of ridiculous happeneing and I try to wonder what Lissa might have had to say about it... but can't. She was so quick that no one could catch a long enough glimpse into her mind to ever begin to understand it. I'm really going to miss that. And her :(

I always admired her; the way she made us all laugh ourselves to the point of physical pain, her brilliance and skill, her musical genius. I think, not just the board, but the world (most of which she apparently travelled, after looking at that site and her snapshots) won't be the same.

This is really too sad to put into words :cry:
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I never really spoke directly to her, but her posts were the ones I often read with the most interest and had me laughing out loud on many occasions.

This is a very sad day and my heart goes out to her nearest and dearest
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After recently encountering my own mortality, something like this makes you feel it even more.

This just shows you no matter how healthy one may be you can be pulled from this Earth in a second for no particular rhyme or reason.

If this doesn't teach one to live every day to the fullest and stop the crying over the pettiness, nothing will. Those people should be prayed for. Each day is a gift, don't let someone take it from you and never take it for granted.

Funny thing, I always thought for the longest time Mozart was a guy. If I posted something I thought was witty, she came back and one upped me. Good for her!

I have no doubt she found her way to the good Lord. What a sad thing for one to read. :(

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one quote recently from Lissa which I loved was

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lol :P :P

I have not been able to post or even come onto the internet much tonight after reading the devastating news of Lissa's untimely death :cry:

From what I have read, Lissa was at the beginning of her 'grown up' life - her new daughter, all the fun times at disneyworld, schools etc etc :(

Lissa - although I never commented on your witty intelligent posts much, I loved everyone of them. The way you gave people what for in your own kind of way was and still be unique - only to you - noone else will ever beat you on that score (and alot of the time noone had replies from them lol :P)

you kept on making others laugh right to the end - just like always

Love you lass :hug: hope your causing more laughter where-ever you are

god bless xxxx
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How strange that the last time she was active on the board is recorded as an hour after Andy's post of her untimely death. Perhaps her sister was clicking on her favorites list on her computer?????
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My condolences to Lissa's family and everyone on this board who knew her. I didn't know her well but like others I enjoyed reading her posts. She seemed like such a fun person.
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How strange that the last time she was active on the board is recorded as an hour after Andy's post of her untimely death. Perhaps her sister was clicking on her favorites list on her computer?????

I noticed that too...
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How strange that the last time she was active on the board is recorded as an hour after Andy's post of her untimely death. Perhaps her sister was clicking on her favorites list on her computer?????

If it was (and my family could log on here), I hope her family sees how much we love the lovely Lissa and how much we will miss her. I can't stop crying. :cry:
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I don't know what to say. I didn't really know her yet through this board we did all get a small glimpse into her life like her first Mother's Day this year and how she got her handmade gifts from her daughter and how excited she was knowing that she was a mom. I will greatly miss her deep down wit but her knowledge of life, however short hers was, and the philosophy behind it is something I think I will miss the most. I remember when Dotty was going through a horrendous time and had thoughts of suicide and how Lissa tried her best to counsel her and get her to call a suicide hotline. How happy she was that Dotty lived through the experience.

There is so much about her that I would like to have gotten to know better.

My deepest and heartfelt condolences to her family and especially her daughter, which I believe appears in one of the pictures on her website. We lost a friend her daughter lost her mom. My condolences also go out to Rev. Dave, he was a good friend to her and I know that he helped her a lot with the impending transition from this life to the afterlife. Furthermore, my condolences go out to us, her SF family.

Grab your loved ones and tell them how much you love them. Life is short and we have been seeing this past year just how short it really is.

May Peace and God's (or whatever higher calling you have faith in) love surround and comfort us.

Andy, is there any way we can find out when her memorial is? Maybe we can set something up here as a memorial that day to our fallen friend.
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fab4fan
Aug 22 2007, 08:15 PM
How strange that the last time she was active on the board is recorded as an hour after Andy's post of her untimely death. Perhaps her sister was clicking on her favorites list on her computer?????

I noticed that too...

I'm sorry, that was me - I was trying to decide what to do with Lissa's account here and was pondering whether to remove her avatar/signature. After discussions with a couple of the other members of the SF team, we have decided to leave things as they are, for now.
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she will never be forgotten Andy - leave things as be
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Andy, is there any way we can find out when her memorial is? Maybe we can set something up here as a memorial that day to our fallen friend.

I'm hoping that we will be able to get that information somehow. If I do receive any details, I will naturally pass them on to you all.
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Aug 23 2007, 02:13 AM
she will never be forgotten Andy - leave things as be

There's certainly no rush to do anything at all at the moment. After I heard the terrible news, my mind went into overdrive and I was thinking of the most trivial administrative things but, really, those things can wait.
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Friends,

In times like this we're all a little lost for words. We want to say the right thing, but we're not really sure how. I think the important thing is to just say what you feel. It doesn't need to be brilliant or noteworthy. Just saying anything is better than saying nothing.

For me personally this is a tremendous loss. I consider Lissa a friend and had the privilege of meeting her in person. She was as warm and compassionate in person as she was funny and intelligent on paper.

My apologies for not coming here sooner. I've always wanted to spend more time here, especially now, but using the Internet and some sites in particular are very difficult. As Andy said I'm available to anyone who wants to talk. My e-mail address is harvardbushiban@yahoo.com and my phone number is +8869-2418-9505. E-mail is easier for me to answer than board messages, but I'll try to answer everything as best I can. Most of you are in a different time zone from me. I'm 15 hours ahead of California time. I think it's 8 or 9 hours ahead of London time.

I want to answer as many questions publically as I can. I don't have any information regarding memorial services yet. As for flowers and cards to her family, I think right now we should give them private time to grieve. As shocking as this is to all of us, it's nothing short of tragic for them. I don't know what will happen to her daughter, but I'll certainly try to find out.

The biggest question seems to be why. Why did something like this happen. I'm afraid I can't answer that. Saying God has a plan never seems to be enough, but it's true. Hopefully we'll all understand it eventually. Lissa's probably getting all the answers to all life's mysteries right now. We grieve for her, but we're really grieving for ourselves and of course her family.

Thank you Andy for breaking this terrible news to everyone. I know it wasn't easy.

Thank you Lissa for everything. I'm sure you'll give an extraordinary concert in Heaven.
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I took the liberty of putting together some information about her. I started to write a more detailed biography, but I'm not sure how appropriate that is.

These are some facts about Lissa most might not know:

She had hazel eyes that turned green in direct sunlight.

She wrote in English with her right hand and Dutch with her left. I asked her about it while she was writing postcards and she said, "That's the way it is. Accept it."

Her father's side of the family includes prominent politicians from the 19th century, including Senators, a Secretary of State and a Vice President. There's also a long tradition of military service, including a Brigadier General in the American Revolution, a brevet General in the War of 1812, a Major General in the Civil War and others down until her father, who was a Lieutenant Colonel and served in Vietnam.

During a performance on French TV when she was 7 there was a brief interview. She encouraged people to vote against Jacques Chirac in the presidential election. The interviewer was expecting a little girl who'd be nervous and excited to be on TV, but instead got someone who was opinionated and informed. The performance was well-received and helped Lissa's career, but because of the interview she was never asked back on that show. Chirac lost the election - probably for different reasons, but he went on to win the next time around.

Paintings of Lissa by her sister can be seen in a few galleries and several private collections, including the large private collection of comedian Steve Martin.

She was fluent in at least four languages - English, Dutch, French and Frisian and could hold a basic conversation in Chinese.

She was a member of Mensa from Jr. High to college, when she resigned her membership in protest. Although she always did well in IQ tests, she would be the first to agree that true intelligence can't be quantified by a test.

Her last signature - Nurse, I spy gypsies. Run - is a palindrome. She was adept at word puzzles and often included such things in her posts here.

She didn't pronounce her name Lissa, as in Melissa, but closer to a combination of Lisa and Leeza. I'm not sure if it's French or Dutch, but I think she enjoyed correcting people when they mispronounced her name.
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I read the post this morning and have been pondering on what to say all day in between crying like a baby. It's funny how someone you never met but looked forwarded to their wicked, funny and eye popping comments, can leave a hole in your heart. Lissa was (and I hate to say was), such a talented person, who was so looking forward to Motherhood. She's travelled the world and accomplished so much in her short time on this earth. It's one of those questions you ask WHY did this have to happen to someone so special, who had so much to offer? But I find your never going to find an answer that will make sense. I believe in GOD and try never to ask why. I believe Lissa is in a better place, hopefully with her Mother and playing beautiful music in heaven. It's sad her daughter will never have the chance to get to know her.
It's strange if you go to this thread and read what it states about her soul.

http://z3.invisionfree.com/Strawberry_Fiel...?showtopic=5592

My heartfelt love and condolences to Lissa's family and friends, including our Strawberry Field's family that will miss Lissa's charm and wit.

(((Peace and Love))))
Judy.

PEACE and love to my friends, Judy

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:huh: This is terrible...really terrible! Moz is one of my favorite posters here. I honestly hope that this is all just a terrible twisted joke.

NOTE: I don't want to anger anyone here, but for now, I'm going to refuse to believe any of this until I see hard proof. I hate to be such a skeptic...but, I've fallen victim to way too many pranks in the past. And if this is someone's idea of a funny joke, it ain't funny.

If it is true, my offer my deepest condolences to a talented woman who's unique sense of humor surpasses anyone on this board.
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I'd like to request if nobody else has already, for some of her posts, there are a lot of us who only have these as memories of her and as long as it's ok with Andy And Fiona then i was wondering if it was possible to make a thread dedicated to her with some of her posts from the better times.

This is a great idea. She was very quotable. I'd put something together if I had more time. Unfortunately going through posts here is time consuming. Maybe others can make this happen.
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If I did write you or call you rev dave, I would not know what to say. Except, I do not understand all the medical terms that Andy written. In addition, I do not want to believe it. :blush:
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wow.. this is just..


words never seem enough at moments like this.


What a LOSS for us, for this world.


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Please light a candle for Lissa. I have a started a group specifically for her. Search under groups for LISSA.
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I feel sorry for me. I really didn't know her as well as I would've liked. We'd only just met recently when I took my sister to New York to have surgery. Lissa opened her home to me and was kind enough to show me her city and teach me about music. She took the time to visit my sister in the hospital and she didn't even know her. Her compassion matched her wisdom, if that's possible.

I feel sorry for all of us. Not only at this web-site but everyone in general. She touched so many lives in so many positive ways.

I feel sorry for her family. Lissa cared a great deal about many things, but none so much as her family. They have my most sincere condolences.

Mostly I feel sorry for her young daughter. She's now lost 2 mothers. I can't imagine.

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"We call 10 American deaths a catastrophe. One hundred European deaths are a tragedy. One thousand Asian deaths are a shame. And 10,000 African deaths we call a Monday." - Lissa (1981-2007) ÇáÓáÇã Úáíßã æÑÍãÉ Çááå æÈÑßÇÊå
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Aug 23 2007, 07:51 AM
really makes you think, this place isn't just a internet forum its like a club or a little country, where everyone is as important as everyone else (regardless of post numbers, or rank) and that one person's death will affect us all.

You're right. I was talking with John this morning (or afternoon depending on your perspective) and saying how I had often wondered just how we would deal with this. Most of us know each other as a bunch of text arranged on a screen, yet there really is a connection between us. And I knew that one day, something like this would happen. We are a community and communities lose people. And we are left with this uncertainty about whether our grief is really valid.

I don't know her well enough to say this, but I suspect Lissa would be the first to remind us that she was not the only one to lose her life in this tragic, horrific event. We grieve because we knew her, and we knew others through her, but we should keep the other victims in our thoughts and prayers too.
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I am so sorry to hear this. My prayers are with her and her family at this time.
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The truth to matter I do not remember lissa talking to me about suicide or anything in that matter. However, then again I was to drunk to remember anything at that time.
However, I like to put that in my past like everything else. Please do not think I am heart less. I do appreciate all the help I got.
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Aug 22 2007, 10:55 PM
The truth to matter I do not remember lissa talking to me about suicide or anything in that matter. However, then again I was to drunk to remember anything at that time.
However, I like to put that in my past like everything else. Please do not think I am heart less. I do appreciate all the help I got.

I'm sorry Dotty I just wanted to show that not only did Lissa have a wicked sense of humor but that she cared for us in little ways like advising you and all of us here that there are other options. Didn't mean to dredge up the past in a bad way.
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Aug 22 2007, 10:55 PM
The truth to matter I do not remember lissa talking to me about suicide or anything in that matter. However, then again I was to drunk to remember anything at that time.
However, I like to put that in my past like everything else. Please do not think I am heart less. I do appreciate all the help I got.

I'm sorry Dotty I just wanted to show that not only did Lissa have a wicked sense of humor but that she cared for us in little ways like advising you and all of us here that there are other options. Didn't mean to dredge up the past in a bad way.

It' is ok, cathy, it's just I don''t want to be known for my past. but, my future. There is more to me that meet the eye.. I know you did it in good intention. I love all of you, and, always will.
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Aug 22 2007, 08:47 PM
I took the liberty of putting together some information about her. I started to write a more detailed biography, but I'm not sure how appropriate that is.

These are some facts about Lissa most might not know:

She had hazel eyes that turned green in direct sunlight.

She wrote in English with her right hand and Dutch with her left. I asked her about it while she was writing postcards and she said, "That's the way it is. Accept it."

Her father's side of the family includes prominent politicians from the 19th century, including Senators, a Secretary of State and a Vice President. There's also a long tradition of military service, including a Brigadier General in the American Revolution, a brevet General in the War of 1812, a Major General in the Civil War and others down until her father, who was a Lieutenant Colonel and served in Vietnam.

During a performance on French TV when she was 7 there was a brief interview. She encouraged people to vote against Jacques Chirac in the presidential election. The interviewer was expecting a little girl who'd be nervous and excited to be on TV, but instead got someone who was opinionated and informed. The performance was well-received and helped Lissa's career, but because of the interview she was never asked back on that show. Chirac lost the election - probably for different reasons, but he went on to win the next time around.

Paintings of Lissa by her sister can be seen in a few galleries and several private collections, including the large private collection of comedian Steve Martin.

She was fluent in at least four languages - English, Dutch, French and Frisian and could hold a basic conversation in Chinese.

She was a member of Mensa from Jr. High to college, when she resigned her membership in protest. Although she always did well in IQ tests, she would be the first to agree that true intelligence can't be quantified by a test.

Her last signature - Nurse, I spy gypsies. Run - is a palindrome. She was adept at word puzzles and often included such things in her posts here.

She didn't pronounce her name Lissa, as in Melissa, but closer to a combination of Lisa and Leeza. I'm not sure if it's French or Dutch, but I think she enjoyed correcting people when they mispronounced her name.

Thanks for the info REV. You and Adilah were truly lucky to have met her
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There is an 'angelfire' site of Lissa's which, if any of you haven't seen before, contain some of her photography and also her recommendations and loves in classical music. It's a nice snapshot of part of her personality and at least depicts what a full and cultured life Lissa led, albeit far too short.

http://www.angelfire.com/la3/mozart8mytoe/

Thank you so much for this, Andy. It means a lot.
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Aug 22 2007, 08:47 PM
I took the liberty of putting together some information about her.  I started to write a more detailed biography, but I'm not sure how appropriate that is. 

These are some facts about Lissa most might not know:

She had hazel eyes that turned green in direct sunlight.

She wrote in English with her right hand and Dutch with her left.  I asked her about it while she was writing postcards and she said, "That's the way it is.  Accept it."

Her father's side of the family includes prominent politicians from the 19th century, including Senators, a Secretary of State and a Vice President.  There's also a long tradition of military service, including a Brigadier General in the American Revolution, a brevet General in the War of 1812, a Major General in the Civil War and others down until her father, who was a Lieutenant Colonel and served in Vietnam.

During a performance on French TV when she was 7 there was a brief interview.  She encouraged people to vote against Jacques Chirac in the presidential election.  The interviewer was expecting a little girl who'd be nervous and excited to be on TV, but instead got someone who was opinionated and informed.  The performance was well-received and helped Lissa's career, but because of the interview she was never asked back on that show.  Chirac lost the election - probably for different reasons, but he went on to win the next time around.

Paintings of Lissa by her sister can be seen in a few galleries and several private collections, including the large private collection of comedian Steve Martin.

She was fluent in at least four languages - English, Dutch, French and Frisian and could hold a basic conversation in Chinese.

She was a member of Mensa from Jr. High to college, when she resigned her membership in protest.  Although she always did well in IQ tests, she would be the first to agree that true intelligence can't be quantified by a test.

Her last signature - Nurse, I spy gypsies. Run - is a palindrome.  She was adept at word puzzles and often included such things in her posts here.

She didn't pronounce her name Lissa, as in Melissa, but closer to a combination of Lisa and Leeza.  I'm not sure if it's French or Dutch, but I think she enjoyed correcting people when they mispronounced her name.

Thanks for the info REV. You and Adilah were truly lucky to have met her

Agreed. It's really hit home that although we all loved Lissa, nearly nobody here really knew her. She was one of the most intelligent, insightful and humourous people I ever had the priviledge of knowing.
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:huh: This is terrible...really terrible! Moz is one of my favorite posters here. I honestly hope that this is all just a terrible twisted joke.

NOTE: I don't want to anger anyone here, but for now, I'm going to refuse to believe any of this until I see hard proof. I hate to be such a skeptic...but, I've fallen victim to way too many pranks in the past. And if this is someone's idea of a funny joke, it ain't funny.

If it is true, my offer my deepest condolences to a talented woman who's unique sense of humor surpasses anyone on this board.
:(

Olen, Andy has a wonderful sense of humour but there is no way he would EVER make a sick joke. It's not his style. I really wish it was right now, though. :cry:

I lit a candle on Clare's page.

Adilah, I saw a photo of you from Lissa's webpage; the photos she has taken, and you're beautiful.
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Olen, this is no joke, but I understand how you are feeling. This took me by surprise. Lissa seemed to be the last one I would ever think would have anything happen to her. She seemed like one of those people who would kick Death to the floor before it would get to her.

This reminds me of the time a few months ago, when another online friend of mine announced his wife and unborn daughter died after a sudden illness. It came to everyone by surprise because they seemed so happy and nothing could happen to them.
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I think that might not be Adilah, Lauren, unless mozzie played around with her eyes.
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I think that might not be Adilah, Lauren, unless mozzie played around with her eyes.

It wouldnt surprise me that the eyes were doctored. But I thought the photo was still of Adilah. Oh well, whoever that lady is, she is stunning.
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Does anyone know her real name or stage name, Merry referred to her desire to have one of her recordings.

I am deeply saddened by this news, I would have loved to hear her play Beets piano concerto number one (which if i remember right was his second), or have a barney with her over a few drinks.

Bollocks my thoughts are not quite coherent now so i will leave it as it is.
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I think that might not be Adilah, Lauren, unless mozzie played around with her eyes.

It wouldnt surprise me that the eyes were doctored. But I thought the photo was still of Adilah. Oh well, whoever that lady is, she is stunning.


My first thought was that it was mozzie herself.
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I think that might not be Adilah, Lauren, unless mozzie played around with her eyes.

It wouldnt surprise me that the eyes were doctored. But I thought the photo was still of Adilah. Oh well, whoever that lady is, she is stunning.


My first thought was that it was mozzie herself.

You know, when you said that first comment, that it may not be Adilah, I sort of thought that for a second.
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I feel sorry for me.  I really didn't know her as well as I would've liked.  We'd only just met recently when I took my sister to New York to have surgery.  Lissa opened her home to me and was kind enough to show me her city and teach me about music.  She took the time to visit my sister in the hospital and she didn't even know her.  Her compassion matched her wisdom, if that's possible.

I feel sorry for all of us.  Not only at this web-site but everyone in general.  She touched so many lives in so many positive ways.

I feel sorry for her family.  Lissa cared a great deal about many things, but none so much as her family.  They have my most sincere condolences.

Mostly I feel sorry for her young daughter.  She's now lost 2 mothers.  I can't imagine.

As salāmu alaikum wa Raħmatullāhi wa Barakātuhi.  Sallallahi alaihu wa sallam.

I'd said to multiple people that I prayed the reason she was up for adoption was not that her parents had died, at least as far back as she could remember. Now I know.

Dave, thank you so much for that insight into Lissa's life which we otherwise may never have known. I shouldn't be surprised but, wow, I'm honored to have had a woman like that grace our humble message board.

Olen, I know how you feel. Time after time I think to myself 'I miss her for now but she will be back eventually.' How can she not be?
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Wow, I was not expecting to find this thread about Moz. Although I haven't posted much lately, I have still been here trying to keep up with all the latest and I always looked forward to Moz's posts. She was so direct and witty. She often said things that I am sure a lot of others were thinking, but didn't want to say. She also had a way of saying things with such wit and sarcasm. I know she usually provided me with a good laugh!

She was a tremendous person and we are very lucky to have had the opportunity to get to know a bit about her. I will really miss that little spitfire, and my thoughts are with her, her family, and her friends.

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Thanks for filling in a little more information about her Reverend Dave. She was such an incredible person, possibly the most incredible person I've ever had the opportunity to "meet". If you don't mind me asking, how old was she?
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Merry
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We have so many questions...I hope Reverend Dave will be able to help us learn more about Lissa in time.

I'm sure she was a professional performer, and I would like very much to know more about that, as well as any other details we could find. She was such an incredible person, and yet also so enigmatic.


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SherryO
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Lit a candle, but forgot to look under the group. I put it under SF for the group anyways.
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I lit a candle for Lissa.

If she has a CD, I would love to have a copy, too. From what I've heard of her playing here for the radio program, she was an amazing pianist.

I still can't believe this has happened. :(
And in the end...The love you take..Is equal to the love you make.


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Well, here's another clue for you all, the Walrus was Paul...
I also find myself wondering about Lissa. She was just one of those people you are automatically drawn to...and want to get to know better.
I find myself thinking about what she looked like...wanting to hear her play music...wanting to know more about the incredible life she had led.
I hope its not being intrusive...but I can't help but think about her.
I don't want to let her go.

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"I'm in awe of McCartney. He's about the only one that I am in awe of. He can do it all. And he's never let up... He's just so damn effortless." ~ Bob Dylan
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