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Baby Granted Gun Licence; This Is Crazy
Topic Started: May 17 2007, 04:32 AM (334 Views)
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I just saw a news story on my news station where they told the story of a 10-month-old baby in the USA was given a gun licence. Apparently, the boy was given a shotgun as a "welcome to the world" present by his grandfather. The father then thought he would "test" how far the gun laws there could be pushed. The baby was awarded the licence (it even had the baby's picture on it - much like any driver's licence type thing). Apparently the licencing department is backing their decision by saying that as long as the child's parent has given permission for the licence, the licence can be given. Okay - they didn't say so but I don't think the baby has actually been given access to the shotgun or been allowed to play with it as such.

I am totally amazed by this whole story. Why would anyone think a shotgun is an appropriate gift for a newborn? Why would anyone even bother getting a 10-month old baby a gun licence? :o
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May 17 2007, 02:43 PM
Maggie Simpson?

If that's the case, the boy should shoot his stupid grandfather. <_<
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I don't know about you backward Australians, but American babies have an inalienable right to defend their homes against marauding Injuns and to go out a huntin' for possum and somesuch.
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Okay, I didn't hear about this until now. I just had to laugh out loud because this is the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard. :lol:
Why did a Warner Brothers cartoon with this gangster baby come into my head. :P
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:lol: thats just taking the p*ss
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People should have to get baby licenses.
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I think it's kinda cute that he gave his grandson a gun.
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May 19 2007, 06:58 PM
I think it's kinda cute that he gave his grandson a gun.

Cute? Are you serious? :blink:

"Here ya go, little feller - now you've got something you can kill things with!" :hmm:
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I think it's kinda cute that he gave his grandson a gun.

Guns are for killing.
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whats a baby going to do with a gun or that :hmm:
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May 19 2007, 06:58 PM
I think it's kinda cute that he gave his grandson a gun.

Cute? Are you serious? :blink:

"Here ya go, little feller - now you've got something you can kill things with!" :hmm:

Kid's gotta learn how to hunt sooner or later. :P Now, I'm sorry. I'm a southerner. That's what I know. Almsot everyone in my family hunts or fishes. I'm just about the only one that doesn't. But I sell hunting and fishing licenses and guns on a daily basis. I don't condone the ones that do it for sport, but as a means of food, SURE. God put us in dominion of the animals. Maybe, JUST MAYBE, if you introduce something like that into a child's life early enough, he can be taught to respect animals. And kill for his needs, not for wants or bragging rights like a lot of people do. ;)
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If giving kids toy guns doesn't teach them that, how is giving them a real gun going to do it?

Would giving a kid a car at 5 tears of age make them a more responsible driver?
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my kids weren't even allowed a toy gun.
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May 21 2007, 04:51 AM
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May 19 2007, 06:58 PM
I think it's kinda cute that he gave his grandson a gun.

Cute? Are you serious? :blink:

"Here ya go, little feller - now you've got something you can kill things with!" :hmm:

Kid's gotta learn how to hunt sooner or later. :P Now, I'm sorry. I'm a southerner. That's what I know. Almsot everyone in my family hunts or fishes. I'm just about the only one that doesn't. But I sell hunting and fishing licenses and guns on a daily basis. I don't condone the ones that do it for sport, but as a means of food, SURE. God put us in dominion of the animals. Maybe, JUST MAYBE, if you introduce something like that into a child's life early enough, he can be taught to respect animals. And kill for his needs, not for wants or bragging rights like a lot of people do. ;)

I mean look at Uncle Ted he had to start somewhere :D
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May 21 2007, 02:51 PM
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I think it's kinda cute that he gave his grandson a gun.

Cute? Are you serious? :blink:

"Here ya go, little feller - now you've got something you can kill things with!" :hmm:

Kid's gotta learn how to hunt sooner or later. :P Now, I'm sorry. I'm a southerner. That's what I know. Almsot everyone in my family hunts or fishes. I'm just about the only one that doesn't. But I sell hunting and fishing licenses and guns on a daily basis. I don't condone the ones that do it for sport, but as a means of food, SURE. God put us in dominion of the animals. Maybe, JUST MAYBE, if you introduce something like that into a child's life early enough, he can be taught to respect animals. And kill for his needs, not for wants or bragging rights like a lot of people do. ;)

Your attitude surprises me, Jon. I understand it's a cultural thing for you, but I don't condone any kind of killing. 'God put us in the dominion of animals' - what does that mean? We have to shoot them all in order to survive? What bollocks. Kill or be killed? Give me a break.

In the modern western world, no one should have to 'kill for their needs'. And as for that 'give him a gun and he'll learn to respect animals' - give him a gun and he'll learn to blow them away. He won't have any respect for anyone.

Until someone decides to arm deer and other 'game' animals, then I'm totally against the whole hunting culture.
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I hope the parents only let him have a water gun.

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You tell me deer aren't armed when one comes barrelling through my car when I'm driving down the highway. :P Seriously though, you said something that brings up a point of mine. I've always had this weird complex. I'm a gardener. And when I harvest the crop, I think of that as killing just as I would if I killed an animal. Either way you go about it, you're causing something that was living and growing to cease to be. And I'm not being a smart ass about this either. I'm dead serious. I have strange complexes, I know. :blush:

Give someone guns and he'll learn to blow them away??? :blink: Where do you get that idea?! There are four laying around my house, and I respect animals with all my heart. BUT..would I blast a hole through some animal's head if it continually attacks and injures my cats? (as I've almost had to do before...) YES. I'd rather watch ONE animal be killed as 5 or 6 be continually attacked and injured. THAT'S the ONLY way I would personally harm an animal. But I still support hunters, and I still support the hunter culture, and I'll continue to sell guns to hunters.
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Jonathan where you from? Will I don't like haunting. but, I am a meat eater. I hated when my mom's husband made me and my husband watch him kill chickens and docks.
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I'm from Arkansas. I dont like hunting personally myself, but it's cuz I'm a bad aim, and I can't handle the waiting. :lol:
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May 23 2007, 02:25 AM
I'm from Arkansas. I dont like hunting personally myself, but it's cuz I'm a bad aim, and I can't handle the waiting. :lol:

I know what mean about bad aim. One time I shot a gun and the gun borrow hit me between the eyes. I had a nice black eye. I never touch a gun again. It scared the sh*t out of me.
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You tell me deer aren't armed when one comes barrelling through my car when I'm driving down the highway. :P Seriously though, you said something that brings up a point of mine. I've always had this weird complex. I'm a gardener. And when I harvest the crop, I think of that as killing just as I would if I killed an animal. Either way you go about it, you're causing something that was living and growing to cease to be. And I'm not being a smart ass about this either. I'm dead serious. I have strange complexes, I know. :blush:

Give someone guns and he'll learn to blow them away??? :blink: Where do you get that idea?! There are four laying around my house, and I respect animals with all my heart. BUT..would I blast a hole through some animal's head if it continually attacks and injures my cats? (as I've almost had to do before...) YES. I'd rather watch ONE animal be killed as 5 or 6 be continually attacked and injured. THAT'S the ONLY way I would personally harm an animal. But I still support hunters, and I still support the hunter culture, and I'll continue to sell guns to hunters.

Your cats are animals just as deer and cows are and I'm sure there are other ways of protecting them. Would you blow your cat away for killing a bird?

Anyway, I'm glad that you don't hunt and kill animals. Too many do already. To not feel the desire to track down a creature who has done you no harm, to use a machine to take it's life away, to carve out it's innards... it's shows a - dare I say - sensitive side. :P
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Wow. :blink: I figured I was gonna get chewed out some more for supporting the hunters. I'm glad someone finally figured out that I'm not some evil animal killer. (Even though I DO support them :P) Oh, I wanna raise another point. That's not so much true about the Western world in my opinion. I can't AFFORD the vegetarian options most of the time. If I could, I'd probably be vegetarian. But I CAN'T. So I eat cheap. And that usually means animal products. It's just a fact of life sometimes. Not everyone can afford to do all the right things.

Oh, and I'm proud of my cat's for catching birds. :P
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I would say that you could eat far cheaper as a vegetarian than you could as a meat eater. I know that my food bill went down a lot when I 'converted'. A bean & cheese burrito doesn't cost more than a beef one, does it?

You don't have to buy the expensive meat substitutes to eat healthy vegetarian food. ;)
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I thought veggies didn't eat cheese? And you must not understand what I mean about eating cheaper. I'm not talkin fancy meats. I'm talkin the cheapest bologna I can find. :lol: Most often the vegetables I eat I grow, cuz they're expensive and you don't know what crap is sprayed on them.
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You get cheap bologna but you're worried about what kind of crap may be sprayed on the vegetables? :o I'd be more worried about the hormones and anti-biotics in the meat. ;)
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Hormones and antibiotics don't bother me. I was pumped full of those when I was a kid. :P
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May 26 2007, 02:50 PM
I thought veggies didn't eat cheese?

Lacto-ovo-vegetarians eat dairy products and eggs. Ovo-vegetarians don't eat dairy (which includes cheese) and vegans don't eat any animal-derived products.

Kinda like your bologna.
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I am completely opposed to babies hunting their own reconstituted animal chunks.
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