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| ogoble | Apr 24 2007, 08:57 PM Post #1 |
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LINK<_< By making an admission, will this lead to restitution for Alabama Blacks? I can see it coming... |
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| BikerLikeAnIcon | Apr 25 2007, 02:34 AM Post #2 |
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I think it will lead to some kind of reperations. I also think it will make racial tensions even higher than they are now. Considering that was over 150 years ago, just who are we apologizing to? I am not proud of that part of Alabama's history, but that is what it is...history. |
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| Mista_Jim | Apr 25 2007, 09:49 AM Post #3 |
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Geez, that happened a loooong time ago. How about this...... Iraq apologizes to America for having planes crash into buildings and what not. Now that sounds like a better thing!!!! |
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| Deleted User | Apr 25 2007, 11:45 AM Post #4 |
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why would iraq wish to apoligise for thta. |
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| Bill | Apr 25 2007, 12:04 PM Post #5 |
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Good question Peter. I think you need to brush up on your history there Jim.
Regarding apologies, you could ask why, or you could ask why not. Let me make a comparison: there is regular pressure for the Australian government and white Australia in general to apologise to the Aboriginal people for the stolen generation, where Aboriginal children were removed from their families and taken to live with white families. The policy did have its good intentions but it's now widely seen as cultural genocide. Now I personally have never done anything to wrong the Aboriginal people and I know for a fact that none of my ancestors have either - not that I would be able to do anything about it if they had. So why should I be sorry? I'm sorry it happened, but why should I apologise? But what harm would it do if I did? If saying sorry will mean we can put this behind us and move on, then I apologise. And as Nelson Mandela said, with sorrow must come forgiveness. So c'mon Alamabans, be righteous. Take the high road. And if others then choose to take the low road, know that you didn't. |
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| Deleted User | Apr 25 2007, 12:18 PM Post #6 |
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there is no need for anybody to apologize to anyone, though in the australian case it might to the people who were actually taken it went on till the 1960's i beleive, the states concerned shoud teach their history rather than bury it. |
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| Bill | Apr 25 2007, 12:22 PM Post #7 |
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You're right that there's a difference in living memory so it's not a perfect comparison. But geez, if the Catholic church can apologise for the crusades, then why not this? If it's going to make people feel better and no-one gets hurt, then why not? |
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| Deleted User | Apr 25 2007, 12:32 PM Post #8 |
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the catholic church ought to apologise for the tortoure and murder of millions of protestants nevermind a few thousand muslims. the catholic church should apologise for the thousands upon thousands of cases of rape and sexual abuse done by it's members. why not the muslim fait apologise for the invasion of palestine , north africa, the iberian peninsula, greece , bulgaria, Romania. |
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| Sixty-Four | Apr 25 2007, 12:55 PM Post #9 |
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I'm getting a bit tired of all this apologising stuff.
Tony Blair's into this in a big way & we've just had the slavery bit cos of the William Willberforce abolition of slavery 200th(?) anniversary. OK it was wrong but it was A LONG TIME AGO! Our Tony loves this stuff, apologising to the Irish & everyone else...just a shame he can't apologise for taking us into an illegal war...hypocrite! :angry: Sorry...rant over
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| Mista_Jim | Apr 25 2007, 06:15 PM Post #10 |
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ok, i'm ignorant...i'm done posting |
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| Sandra | Apr 25 2007, 09:38 PM Post #11 |
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I feel no compulsion to apologise for something that I am not directly responsible for - though I abhor many of the actions of previous generations, nor do I want future generations to apologise on my behalf. I think it all becomes rather meaningless and it prevents people from moving on. That's not to diminish past wrongs nor stop us learning from past mistakes but it is not in my opinion useful to keep reliving it. Society has a different perspective - even from the living memory of the sixties. To go backwards is counter productive as I see it. We should learn from history certainly but not relive it out of context. |
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| BEATNUT | Apr 26 2007, 12:13 AM Post #12 |
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I don't apologize cause basically I don't give a sh*t about what happened 200 years ago. |
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| maccascruff | Apr 26 2007, 12:23 AM Post #13 |
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I had nothing to do with what happened 200 years ago and it can't be changed. When I researched my family tree, I found out that way back when, one of my ancestors had one slave on a census record. Guess we didn't have any money even then. But, I didn't have anything to do with that. |
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| Deleted User | Apr 26 2007, 12:30 AM Post #14 |
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Hey for all I know I'm black, you're black, their black, we're all black. There is a little of every race in all of us. Now I am gonna go listen to Ebony & Ivory. |
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| john lemon | Apr 26 2007, 02:16 AM Post #15 |
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My how progressive of Alabama
Watch out, Womens rights are right around the corner |
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| BikerLikeAnIcon | Apr 26 2007, 02:29 AM Post #16 |
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Yeah, we didn't even have the right to vote until 1920. Where's OUR apology? <_< |
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| ogoble | Apr 26 2007, 02:45 AM Post #17 |
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:hmm: No one has offered an apology yet for removing my Great-Great Grandfather and his Cherokee family from their rich farmland in Georgia. Since we Alabamians are in the mood to offer apologies for past wrongs, I'd like to officially apologize to Faith Miller for putting a bugger on her potato chip back in third grade...I'm sorry Faith!
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| john lemon | Apr 26 2007, 03:25 AM Post #18 |
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How about Alabama apologize to the US for redneck culture jk |
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| ogoble | Apr 26 2007, 04:00 AM Post #19 |
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We didn't start it... ...we just perfected it.
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| mozart8mytoe | Apr 26 2007, 10:01 AM Post #20 |
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To whom should Alabama apologize?
If Muslims should apologize for branching out where does that leave Catholics? I seem to recall missionary being more than just a position. |
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| modgirl1964 | Apr 26 2007, 02:25 PM Post #21 |
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| JeffLynnesBeard | Apr 26 2007, 03:45 PM Post #22 |
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It's a tough one isn't it. The responses on this thread highlight what a huge can of worms this topic opens. One one hand, perhaps it makes the ancestors of those who have suffered injustices feel better. Then again, it's a fairly empty gesture - apologising for something that you haven't done and have had absolutely no control about. Perhaps that, in itself, is offensive to some people. Lastly, saying sorry does mean that your state or country is admitting culpability for wrong doing, meaning that it leaves said state or country open to legal proceedings for compensation and questioning property ownership. This could lead to a whole new generation of innocent people suffering for the acts of their ancestors in some (some would say misguided) act of 'righting wrongs'. I believe that expressing regret about some aspects of the country's (or state's) history and condemning wrong actions and policies should be as far as we should go, unless it is within living memory. Someone's great-great-granddaughter apologising to someone's great-great-grandson for something that happened 150 years ago strikes me as a gesture without real substance, that's all. |
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| john lemon | Apr 26 2007, 05:14 PM Post #23 |
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How about Alabamians apologizing for being a red state and voting for Bush? |
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| ogoble | Apr 26 2007, 08:18 PM Post #24 |
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Okay...I apologize for voting for Bush.I hope this helps our relations.
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| Reverend Dave | Apr 27 2007, 05:10 AM Post #25 |
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Around here people are still trying to get Japan to apologize for a lot of things they did during the war. Many people think it's too late, and that was only 60 years ago. |
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Tony Blair's into this in a big way & we've just had the slavery bit cos of the William Willberforce abolition of slavery 200th(?) anniversary. OK it was wrong but it was A LONG TIME AGO! Our Tony loves this stuff, apologising to the Irish & everyone else...just a shame he can't apologise for taking us into an illegal war...hypocrite! :angry: Sorry...rant over



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