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| Nick2006 | May 16 2007, 02:01 PM Post #201 |
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RUDY RUDY RUDY!!!! |
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| vidgamerjon | May 16 2007, 02:04 PM Post #202 |
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You're sick man.
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| modgirl1964 | May 16 2007, 02:56 PM Post #203 |
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Whaaa.... He's proven himself to be a bonehead. I'm quite taken by Dennis Kucinich myself, a good liberal Demoract. Glad to see him this time around and like his views on heath care, the war, education, civil liberities, and jobs. Yes, he may be a little too liberal for some, but I like him! |
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| Bill | May 17 2007, 03:02 AM Post #204 |
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Am I think only one who was pretty disturbed at the Republican candidates trying to out-do each other on who they would torture like being the president is like an episode of 24?
Are they chasing the sadist vote or what?"Enhanced interrogation techniques" my arse! We all know that's a euphemism that came out of the same bag as "colateral damage." Torture by any other name is still a crime. |
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| mozart8mytoe | May 17 2007, 07:56 AM Post #205 |
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Except that now they are. |
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| Nick2006 | May 17 2007, 03:56 PM Post #206 |
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Republicans are America and i'll be damned to see Hilary get the vote i'd rather hang myself |
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| Nick2006 | May 17 2007, 03:57 PM Post #207 |
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you cannot be serious oh my god why is the world turning into a bunch of do gooders |
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| maccascruff | May 17 2007, 05:05 PM Post #208 |
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The Republican debate, huh? Torture is still illegal no matter how they explain. I will not be voting for any of those candidates. |
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| ~LovelyRita~ | May 17 2007, 05:06 PM Post #209 |
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Republicans are America? What's that supposed to mean? And there are more Democrats then just Hilary btw... |
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| maccascruff | May 17 2007, 05:23 PM Post #210 |
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Repugs are not America where I live and I do not want Hillary to be the Democratic candidate. |
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| Queenbee | May 17 2007, 09:38 PM Post #211 |
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I'm still keeping my eye on Barack Obama. |
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PEACE and love to my friends, Judy When the Power of Love over comes the Love of Power, the world will know Peace. -Sri Chinmnoy Ghose Till me meet again ~ I Love you Mike! You were one of a kind. | |
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| maccascruff | May 17 2007, 09:42 PM Post #212 |
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At this point, I like Obama. We'll see what happens between now and the election. It's a long time until then. |
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| modgirl1964 | May 17 2007, 09:55 PM Post #213 |
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Um..Nick, do you truly know a single thing about American poltics? Not trying to be mean, just trying to understand why you would say such a dumb thing like that. Yes, America is a Republic, but not a Republican party nation. Ireland's a Republic, so does that mean they should be the same? That was just a very dumb thing to say. Not one of your better comments. And for America be do gooders, so what? Everyone in this world needs to do some kind of good. |
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| beatlechick | May 18 2007, 02:09 AM Post #214 |
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And neither do I but if she were, I would not hang myself. I didn't hang myself with Dumbass in office so why would I hang myself with her?!? My choice since the Democratic convention in 2004 has been Barack Obama. The more I hear about him, and hear him, the more I like him. Nick, I think you really need to re-assess your views on politics in America. Your view of it from your side of the pond is quite bad. Tunnelvision needs to widen to wide screen before you can totally understand what is going on in the States. With tunnelvision you miss the little nuances like how well the war in Iraq is going, how much Dumbass has screwed up, how much the American people have to tolerate a failed regime. |
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| mozart8mytoe | May 18 2007, 09:02 AM Post #215 |
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Did you know that Democrats are statistically in office longer than Republicans? There have been more Republican presidents (18 to 14), but Democrats are in office an average of 5.99 years while Republicans are in office an average of 4.71 years (presidents of every other party combined were in office an average of 4.8 years). The Democratic Party was created 30 years before the Republican party. To say that one is better than the other is a matter of opinion. To say that one is America itself is, what is the word I am looking for, stupid.
Heaven forbid. Imagine if it were the opposite.
You mean Barack Hussein Osama? No way in hell a half breed with a foreign (ie terrorist) name is getting into the White House. If he does I will not hang myself (how asinine would it be to even say something like that), but you can rest assured that some real American would take him out. |
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| Bill | May 18 2007, 02:43 PM Post #216 |
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I was amused when the Sydney right wing morning radio host Alan Jones pulled the Barrack Hussein Obama trick. Of course Alan Jones "did a George Michael" before there was even a George Michael to do. Not that there's anything wrong with that. Oh, wait a minute.... there is. |
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| fab4fan | Jun 19 2007, 06:22 PM Post #217 |
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It will be interesting to see if Hilary gets grief from the Eyetalian anti-defamation league: Hilary spoofs Sopranos p.s. The song:http://www.hillaryclinton.com/feature/song/?splash=1 |
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| LadyMacca | Jun 19 2007, 08:31 PM Post #218 |
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I might get attacked for what i'm about to say.. or applauded but I could care less. I dont care who the next president is, just as long as he/she knows what the hell their doing! .. and as long as it isn't another bush & dick combo!
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| modgirl1964 | Jun 19 2007, 09:10 PM Post #219 |
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Then vote Demoratic and wisely, read up on ALL the canidates and their policies, and you'll be fine. Seriously folks, read on every single canidate, find out what their platform is. Be an educated voter when walking into the polls. Don't vote for that person just because they're the face of that party. Vote because you feel you learned enough about them and feel that they're the right choice. |
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| Nick2006 | Jun 19 2007, 09:15 PM Post #220 |
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I've just remembered something there are a lot of violent democratic supporters who protest stuff they don't even know what they are protesting on i was reconsidering changed until i remember somebody throwing a f*cking rock at my girlfriend just because she was at a rally to help the soldiers, veterans and the ones of today why should i like those morons for you can't deny this either i watched a tv show before about an aggressive family, hell you might aswell have the Klan on your sides too |
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| Kaleidoscope~Eyes | Jun 19 2007, 09:17 PM Post #221 |
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It's been a loooooooooooong haul and it's time for a change and proper vote counting would be nice as well. Especially since I vote from outside the country and I don't know if mine was counted last time. :hmm: I'm not saying who I am voting for though. Suffice it to say I will vote for experience though. |
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| modgirl1964 | Jun 19 2007, 09:22 PM Post #222 |
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There's exermists on both sides Nick. I had Republicans egg my car at a John Kerry rally but I don't go bashing ALL Republicans, just those in power right now. I respect those are ingellent, informative, and respectful of their veiws, just as I am with someone who's a Communist. It's their views and all people need to have for each party is tolorance. Yes, it's furstrating with the mud slinging and the like, but it's also politics. In that game you happen to get sh*t and blood on your hands. As long as you are respectful to another's views, nine times out of ten, you'll get someone else who's repectful to YOUR views. |
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| Nick2006 | Jun 19 2007, 09:22 PM Post #223 |
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your not allowed to vote outside america, it's within the US |
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| modgirl1964 | Jun 19 2007, 09:23 PM Post #224 |
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If she's a US citzen and living outside the country, she can vote by what's called an abstentee ballot. |
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| Nick2006 | Jun 19 2007, 09:24 PM Post #225 |
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Oh ok didn't know she was US so about those protesters, they gonna be dealt with in an orderly manner or not?? |
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| Kaleidoscope~Eyes | Jun 19 2007, 09:26 PM Post #226 |
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Yes, that's how I vote, I live in Canada but, I'm an American citizen and I do still think it's important to vote! |
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| modgirl1964 | Jun 19 2007, 09:29 PM Post #227 |
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They were probably arrested and detanited for assasult if your girlfriend choosed to press charges, other than they were probably arrested for going across the boundary and disrupting. I should know, I was arrested for protesting once. |
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| modgirl1964 | Jun 19 2007, 09:30 PM Post #228 |
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I'm glad that you do! And wonderful you kept your citzenship! |
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| Kaleidoscope~Eyes | Jun 19 2007, 09:36 PM Post #229 |
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I couldn't give it up because it felt dishonest to me. I really am not Canadian at heart so I wouldnt' go through the process just to please others who felt I should, or for tax purposes etc and besides! I do miss my family and will move home one day!! Keep voting no matter how you do vote!! No voting no complaints! |
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| Nick2006 | Jun 19 2007, 09:50 PM Post #230 |
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i dont believe in protesting, i call it kicking off in my book |
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| beatlechick | Jun 19 2007, 11:38 PM Post #231 |
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Why was there charges brought up against them? Why such a tunnelvision view of protesting, which is a right in this country? Just because your girlfriend had a rock thrown at her, which is not right, does not mean that protesting a war is not a good thing. I have campaigned in past Presidential elections, for the Democrat, and we had to move the offices a few times due to the other camp, the Republicans, sending bomb threats! Yet both parties are allowed, and encouraged, to voice their opinions no matter how much you like/dislike what they have to say. |
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| JeffLynnesBeard | Jun 20 2007, 01:11 AM Post #232 |
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Exactly - I'm certainly not condoning people throwing rocks... that's disgraceful and criminal behaviour - but a rally to 'support the troops' in someone's perspective could be a rally in support of Bush & the Iraq War in someone else's eyes. Things just aren't that straight forward. To be frank, you can't even be sure that the people who threw the rock weren't responding to provocation or simply 'returning fire'. I wasn't there, Nick wasn't there and the only person who has given an account (which has turned into a second-hand account via Nick) was on one side of the fence. This isn't exactly what I'd call primary evidence and certainly not something which you could call all democrats morons for. There's at least two sides to every story. |
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| Deleted User | Jun 20 2007, 01:38 AM Post #233 |
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Nick this country was built by protesters. We have a long and proud history of standing up and saying things loud and clear. We have mini revolutions every 4 years. We are a country that supports change. Even if it takes a while for change to be accepted. We anti-war protesters support our troops enough to demand they come home. We don't need to wrap ourselves in the flag to look patriotic. We ARE patriotic. We practice free speech and we demand freedom. Sorry your friend had a rock thrown at her but we protesters have had rocks thrown at us too. In the history of this country called the United States those who have stood up and demanded freedom have paid the ultimate price. They have been dragged out of their beds and lynched, they have been pulled off of buses and beaten to death, they have been knifed in the back and left to die in gutters and alleyways. They have lost jobs and homes. Families have been hurt and in the end we all pay the price. I don't like one bit that our service men and women are used as propaganda by the Bush Administration, yes I protest loudly. I have been told that I shouldn't be seen at antiwar rallies as my superiors look down at these types of public displays. I say to hell with them. I will continue to shout down those who support this war and to those who don't like it, get over it. This is America! |
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| JeffLynnesBeard | Jun 20 2007, 02:00 AM Post #234 |
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Excellent post, Tony.
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| Bill | Jun 20 2007, 02:21 AM Post #235 |
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I agree! |
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| Bill | Jun 20 2007, 02:41 AM Post #236 |
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And the other big news is that Hillary has chosen a campaign song! (trust me, you don't want to know!) Good to see she's taking the future of her country so seriously! <_< |
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| fab4fan | Jun 20 2007, 02:46 AM Post #237 |
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Go back a page, that's how this whole thing got started. :hmm: |
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| fab4fan | Jun 20 2007, 02:46 AM Post #238 |
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| LadyMacca | Jun 20 2007, 03:30 AM Post #239 |
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So.. election day... when is it again? .. I wanna start counting down the days!
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| Bill | Jun 20 2007, 04:16 AM Post #240 |
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I was avoiding that John because we haven't had the last Sopranos yet and I was worried about spoilers. Sorry to miss your point.
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| mozart8mytoe | Jun 20 2007, 04:21 AM Post #241 |
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In the US, elections are always on the Tuesday after the first Monday in November of a leap year. Only 501 days to go. |
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| beatlechick | Jun 20 2007, 06:00 AM Post #242 |
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| Dorfliedot | Jun 20 2007, 06:10 AM Post #243 |
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| Dorfliedot | Jun 20 2007, 06:11 AM Post #244 |
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I am getting my ID. so, I will have it to vote...
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| beatlechick | Jun 20 2007, 06:16 AM Post #245 |
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| modgirl1964 | Jun 20 2007, 04:32 PM Post #246 |
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Tony, you're my hero.
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| Deleted User | Jun 20 2007, 11:57 PM Post #247 |
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a Celine Dion song, another reason I don't like Hillary. |
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| modgirl1964 | Jun 21 2007, 12:04 AM Post #248 |
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Ugh...is she really?! Glad I said no in the first place to her! |
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| LadyMacca | Jun 21 2007, 03:15 AM Post #249 |
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oh help me god
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| modgirl1964 | Jun 21 2007, 09:24 PM Post #250 |
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Start reading on all those canidates! |
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| LadyMacca | Jun 22 2007, 07:26 PM Post #251 |
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*mumbles* yes m'ame <_< |
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| Bill | Jun 28 2007, 06:08 AM Post #252 |
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To those for whom character is an issue, any thoughts on this? http://time-blog.com/swampland/2007/06/rom..._dog_story.html |
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| mozart8mytoe | Jun 28 2007, 06:52 AM Post #253 |
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This is old news. And if old news is fair game, what about Judi Giuliani's old dog butchering days? Romney or Giuliani are the most likely to get the Republican nomination and they (or their wives) have an anti-dog history. Clinton and Obama like dogs. I say vote Republican. |
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| Bill | Jun 28 2007, 07:04 AM Post #254 |
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One of the moderately amusing things about Judi is seeing all the Republicans who wanted to make Theresa Heinze Kerry the issue in 2004 now act like wives are out of bounds and what happened in the 70s and 80s should stay in the 70s and 80s. I'm happy to play by those rules so long as they apply equally to all sides. Since no-one has actually explained what the statute of limitations is, I shall continue to experiment. |
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| mozart8mytoe | Jun 28 2007, 07:17 AM Post #255 |
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Now you know better than that. The statute of limitations on closet skeletons is based on which side has the most crowded closet. If the Republican candidate's brother killed a guy in 1967, that was too long ago. If the Democratic candidate's wife toked a doobie in 1967, that is a vital question of character. The problem with Teresa Kerry is that she was independent and powerful before she met her husband. Weak men are terrified of strong women. |
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| Bill | Aug 13 2007, 06:39 AM Post #256 |
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Why Republicans should be just as worried as everyone else about unfettered executive power:
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| Bill | Aug 13 2007, 03:11 PM Post #257 |
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Karl Rove has resigned. Allegedly, it's to spend more time with his family. Yeah, right! I'll be anything that he'll be running one of the Republican's campaigns by January. Any takers?
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Watching this on the news and it states he cannot use executive privilege once he is no longer in the executive staff. btw Bill the news also said that the Administration stated that if anyone was to be working on others campaigns they would have to resign by September 1st. |
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| Bill | Aug 14 2007, 02:49 AM Post #259 |
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I heard about that. It's a fair request too. And it does suggest that Rove will be running someone's campaign. However, Dana Perino said, "He will be greatly missed, but we know he wouldn’t be going if he wasn’t sure this was the right time to be giving more to his family, his wife Darby and their son." So if he turns up managing a campaign it will prove (again) that he is a L--I--A--R! |
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Splitting hairs but the statement reads that if you are still on board Sept 1st the expectation is that you will still be on board till the last day in office in January 2009. (again?)
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| beatlechick | Aug 14 2007, 05:53 AM Post #261 |
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Actually, John you have that wrong. It flat out states that if he were to be working on a campaign, he (or any other staffers) would have to resign by Sept. 1st. Tony, I heard a civil rights attorney state that he IS entitled to Executive Privilege if Bush so grants it. I don't remember the reasoning of how he could attain it but he very pointedly said that he is entitled to it. |
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| Bill | Aug 14 2007, 06:03 AM Post #262 |
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I think John is right. It's not an executive order (not that it would matter if it was, as we all know now), it was just asking people to make up their minds if they're in or out. I don't think it will make much difference either way. They always find ways to wriggle out of their statements. And when they do, and when they explain that it wasn't an executive order, remember where you heard it first.
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| beatlechick | Aug 14 2007, 06:09 AM Post #263 |
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Actually, Bill, the way it was stated is that any staffer that intended to work on campaigns had to resign their post by Sept. 1st. |
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| Bill | Aug 14 2007, 06:23 AM Post #264 |
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Or what? They'd be shipped off to Guantanamo? :lol: Yes, they did tell the staff that they're either in or they're out and that's fair enough, but as with everything else with the Bush Administration, it's completely non-binding. I think that was John's point, although I'm sure he wouldn't have expressed it the way I just did.
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| beatlechick | Aug 14 2007, 06:34 AM Post #265 |
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No or what's more of so that's. So that they can either work as a staffer or a campaign person. Apparently they see that the campaign season is just starting, I have news for them--------it already started but I guess they forgot to read the newspaper that day and the next and the next and the next................. |
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| JeffLynnesBeard | Aug 14 2007, 12:42 PM Post #266 |
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It's worth thinking about. There must be accountibility - always.
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| mozart8mytoe | Aug 14 2007, 04:39 PM Post #267 |
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Regardless of when or why he resigned, is it wrong for Karl Rove to work on another campaign? Since he can no longer campaign with Bush, why would it be a problem if he campaigned with someone else? Why should he have to retire just because Bush has to? Being a liar does not automatically disqualify someone as a political advisor. If anything, it is probably very helpful.
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| fab4fan | Sep 28 2007, 02:07 AM Post #268 |
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How to achieve serenity
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| beatlechick | Sep 28 2007, 02:23 AM Post #269 |
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Thanks a lot John, now you made me have to pee!
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| modgirl1964 | Sep 29 2007, 10:36 PM Post #270 |
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Actually that was pretty funny!! No John, I haven't gone to the right. I'm just not voting for Hillary. I do have a question for our right winged friends here though, what do you think of Ron Paul? I have read and seen interviews with him and get the general idea that he's sticking to the true form of the Republican party( i.e. small government, diplomatic ideals, fiscal ideals, ya know, things that they used to talk about before religion came into it). Is he someone that you would vote for over say, oh Fred Thompson? I don't know what the hell he stands for in government nor do most people I know do but they say they like him and would vote for him. If it's not either of these two, who would you vote for? I'm very curious to know who people on the right would for. |
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| beatlechick | Sep 29 2007, 11:25 PM Post #271 |
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Here is a little blurb of who Dr. Ron Paul is. I have heard this guy and from what I have heard I like him. Dr. Ron Paul
He has his doctorate as a specialist ob/gyn having delivered over 4000 babies in his career. |
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| Bill | Sep 30 2007, 10:16 AM Post #272 |
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Unintended irony department: Ahmedinejad's assertion that there is no homosexuality in Iran could actually be the greatest gift to the US gay community. It leaves repressed Republicans with the choice of having to either congratulate Iran for stamping out gay germs or admit that homosexuals are people too. Slightly off topic I know, but since the Republican candidates are being asked how they will combat the "gay agenda," it's kind of relevant. |
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| modgirl1964 | Sep 30 2007, 02:38 PM Post #273 |
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Kathy, I didn't know he was an OB/GYN, wow! And thanks for posting that little list of his record. It's nice to know that there is a Republican out there in office is who's normal and not a sh*t kicker. |
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| beatlechick | Sep 30 2007, 11:04 PM Post #274 |
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You're welcome, Bridget. Him being normal is why I like the guy. |
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Mabe he said that because all the gays that they know of have been ordered killed. How is that a gift? |
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| beatlechick | Oct 1 2007, 12:32 AM Post #276 |
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Maybe because it makes the US look good. We only discriminate against them, we don't intentionally kill them. It also shows they have a voice in the US while not in Iran. |
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| Bill | Oct 1 2007, 03:27 AM Post #277 |
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Maybe you should find out if that's actually true first before posing questions based on that assumption.
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| fab4fan | Oct 1 2007, 04:34 PM Post #278 |
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Hey maybe Bush can become a Prime Minister too!
Putin Signals Plan to Hold Onto Power Oct 1 11:16 AM US/Eastern By STEVE GUTTERMAN Associated Press Writer MOSCOW (AP) - President Vladimir Putin said Monday he would lead the dominant party's ticket in December parliamentary elections and suggested he could become prime minister, the strongest indication yet that he will seek to retain power after he steps down as president early next year. Putin is barred from seeking a third consecutive term in the March presidential election, but has strongly indicated he would seek to keep a hand on Russia's reins. He agreed to head the United Russia party's candidate list in December, which could open the door for him to become a powerful prime minister—leading in tandem with a weakened president. Putin called a proposal that he become prime minister "entirely realistic," but added that it was still "too early to think about it." He said that, first, United Russia would have to win the Dec. 2 elections and a "decent, competent, modern person" must be elected president. Putin's agreement to top the candidate list of United Russia sent an ecstatic cheer though the crowd at a congress of the party, which contains many top officials and dominates the parliament and politics nationwide. The move will likely ensure that United Russia retains a two-thirds majority in the State Duma, the lower house of parliament, enough to change the constitution. Leading the party's ticket does not mean Putin will take a seat in parliament; prominent politicians and other figures often are given the top spots to attract votes, but stay out of the legislature after elections. The 450 seats in the Duma will be distributed proportionally among parties that receive at least 7 percent of the votes. The popular Putin has repeatedly promised to step down at the end of his second term in May, as the constitution requires, but has suggested he would maintain significant influence. He offered some initial hints at his strategy last month when he named Viktor Zubkov—a previously obscure figure known mainly for his loyalty—as prime minister. With no power base of his own, Zubkov would likely play his preordained part in any Putin plan. If he became presiodent and Putin prime minister, Zubkov could be expected to cede specific powers to Putin or step down to allow him to return to the presidency. If he becomes prime minister, Putin would be first in line to replace the president if he is incapacitated. Putin has amassed authority as president, but as he prepares to step down he has been setting up a system of check and balances that would weaken his successor by putting him at the mercy of rival centers of power. By leading the United Russia party list, Putin instantaneously creates the strongest such center, with himself as its head. The move means that Putin's successor "will not be a czar," Kremlin- connected analyst Gleb Pavlovsky said on Ekho Moskvy radio. "There will be a new center of influence outside the Kremlin." Copyright 2007 The Associated Press. All rights reserved. JUST KIDDING FOLKS!
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| Bill | Oct 2 2007, 03:21 AM Post #279 |
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This was mooted a few weeks ago when Putin asked for and got the then PM's resignation. My understanding is that Putin can not serve more than two consecutive terms as president but can possibly run again after his successor has served a term. |
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| Adilah | Oct 3 2007, 08:39 AM Post #280 |
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What has he voted for? |
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| Adilah | Oct 3 2007, 08:45 AM Post #281 |
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The real irony is that he never said homosexuals don't exist in Iran. At least not in the famous comments, but I do think it's an interesting situation for gay-hating Americans who also hate Iran. Which of what they think are evils will they choose? I think neither. A good politician can always deflect a moral imparative. |
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| Bill | Oct 3 2007, 01:00 PM Post #282 |
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Quote of the week!
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| modgirl1964 | Oct 3 2007, 10:45 PM Post #283 |
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Everything that those who run the Republican party right now is against. |
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| beatlechick | Oct 4 2007, 12:49 AM Post #284 |
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Nicely said Bridget. To put it another way, he votes for American liberty and privacy. He has introduced the Health Freedom Protection Act where Americans get truthful health information on supplements and natural remedies. He supports America's ability to use alternative medicine and new treatments. However there are still quite a few things that I take issue with him on. Here is his voting record: Dr. Ron Paul's voting record |
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| audrey | Oct 4 2007, 01:52 AM Post #285 |
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posted on pmcom http://www.wqad.com/Global/link.asp?L=259460 take the quiz |
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| Blondie10 | Oct 4 2007, 05:21 PM Post #286 |
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Whew...the first post I"ve read that I agree with....HAPPY DAYS!!! Ok...I can't believe I just spent the last 20 minutes reading all this...I thought this was a thread about the 2008 presidential election...LMAO... I actually have a headache now... I admit it's been VERY interesting reading everyones opinions on Finance....MONEY!! the root of most peoples arguments and problems... I better go check the balance in my savings account again.... OK..I"ll read the rest later..I'm tired.... :lol: But one thing.....anyone have an opinion on Huckabee as a Republican candidate?
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| modgirl1964 | Oct 4 2007, 10:39 PM Post #287 |
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I don't know too much about Huckabee aside from what I have seen of him on Bill Maher's program. His finacinal plan sounds ok, radical for a Republican. Personally, I would like to see Ron Paul get the vote, but that's a wish just like hoping for Dennis Kucinich getting the Demoratic vote. I like him a lot, he's just what the country needs |
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| beatlechick | Oct 4 2007, 11:14 PM Post #288 |
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Cool quiz. Took and the person I intend on voting for scored pretty high with what I feel is important. |
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| modgirl1964 | Oct 4 2007, 11:20 PM Post #289 |
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I like that too. Matched me right up with who I want to vote for. |
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| Adilah | Oct 6 2007, 04:40 AM Post #290 |
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The web-site says I should vote for Chris Dodd even though we disagree on the items I think are most important. |
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| JeffLynnesBeard | Oct 6 2007, 05:28 AM Post #291 |
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I also got Chris Dodd. I'm finding it hard to believe that Obama, Edwards and Clinton all favour the death penalty. :hmm: |
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| modgirl1964 | Oct 6 2007, 03:13 PM Post #292 |
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And Clinton also favors torture as means to get information in cases like the war. I heard that on a debate the other night and was sickened at that. |
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| Corvair | Oct 7 2007, 04:46 AM Post #293 |
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The most interesting aspect of this campaign for me so far is the fact that Hillary Clinton's poll numbers are so high, yet I haven't seen any enthusiastic support for her, either within my circle of friends, among the folks at work or on threads like this (I haven't read every page, though). Could it be the Howard Dean phenomenon all over again? Everybody thought he was the inevitable nominee since he was outpolling all his opponents by incredible margins, but his bubble popped as soon as people finally had the chance to cast a vote. Maybe the same thing will happen to Mrs. Clinton. I hope it does. I also feel people are going to be tired of the back-and-forth Bush-Clinton-Bush-Clinton rut. |
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| fab4fan | Oct 8 2007, 02:22 PM Post #294 |
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AMAZINGLY INCREDIBLE! WASHINGTON (Map, News) - Sandy Berger, who stole highly classified terrorism documents from the National Archives, destroyed them and lied to investigators, is now an adviser to presidential candidate Hillary Rodham Clinton. Berger, who was fired from John Kerry’s presidential campaign when the scandal broke in 2004, has assumed a similar role in Clinton’s campaign, even though his security clearance has been suspended until September 2008. This is raising eyebrows even among Clinton’s admirers. “It shows poor judgment and a lack of regard for Berger’s serious misdeeds,” said law professor Jonathan Adler of Case Western Reserve University, who nonetheless called Clinton “by far the most impressive candidate in the Democratic field.” Adler told The Examiner that it is “simply incomprehensible to me that a serious contender for the presidency would rely upon him as a key foreign policy advisor.” He added: “If Senator Clinton becomes the Democratic nominee, at some point she will begin to receive national security briefings that will include sensitive information. At such a point, continuing to keep Berger on board as a key advisor, where he might have access to sensitive material, would be beyond incomprehensible.” Berger has admitted stealing documents from the National Archives in advance of the 9/11 Commission hearings in 2003. The documents, written by White House counterterrorism czar Richard Clarke, were a “tough review” of the Clinton administration’s shortcomings in dealing with terrorism, Clarke’s lawyer told the Washington Post. On several occasions, Berger stuffed highly classified documents into his pants and socks before spiriting them out of the Archives building in Washington, according to investigators. On one occasion, upon reaching the street, he hid documents under a construction trailer after checking the windows of the Archives and Justice Department buildings to make sure he was not being watched. Berger came back later and retrieved the documents, taking them home and cutting them up with scissors. Two days later, he was informed by Archive employees that his removal of documents had been detected. “Berger panicked because he realized he was caught,” said a report by the National Archives inspector general, which also recounted his initial reaction. “Berger lied.” Berger also lied to the public, telling reporters he made an “honest mistake” by “inadvertently” taking the documents, which he blamed on his own “sloppiness.” Bill Clinton vouched for the explanation for Berger, who served as his national security adviser. Berger later conceded: “I was giving a benign explanation for what was not benign.” The Justice Department initially said Berger stole only copies of classified documents and not originals. But the House Government Reform Committee later revealed that an unsupervised Berger had been given access to classified files of original, uncopied, uninventoried documents on terrorism. Several Archives officials acknowledged that Berger could have stolen any number of items and they “would never know what, if any, original documents were missing.” At his sentencing in September 2005, Berger was fined $50,000, placed on probation for two years and stripped of his security clearance for three years. |
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| john lemon | Oct 8 2007, 09:04 PM Post #295 |
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It doesn't really say in what capacity he is working with Hillary. True they do give it one sentence but I imagine if it were an important role it would have made more headlines than the Examiner( whatever that is)Politics is a dirty place and there is dirt on both sides, but I wonder how often "the examiner" ran articles about Bush employing ex-watergate and ex iran contra felons? |
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| Bill | Oct 9 2007, 12:38 AM Post #296 |
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This should come as no surprise to anyone. Will Republicans be as outraged when Karl Rove inevitably picks his candidate? |
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| modgirl1964 | Oct 9 2007, 12:46 AM Post #297 |
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Ohh..shock, horror... Wait, wait...this has been in the whole game of U.S politics for almost since it began and another reason why I don't think anyone should vote for Clinton. Corvair had also made a good point in his post, people are tired of the whole back to back to back to back thing. It's not good for the country, we need fresh ideas in the country to save it. Hill's just going to try repeat what she wanted Bill to do in his trem. No thanks, Bill did a good job, but give it up Hillary. |
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| fab4fan | Oct 9 2007, 04:42 AM Post #298 |
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What crime did Rove get convicted of?????????? |
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| Bill | Oct 9 2007, 04:50 AM Post #299 |
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:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: Too funny! To answer your question, about the same number as OJ. Since we're so fond of saying "maybe," then maybe Clinton left Berger to his fate instead of throwing everyone else under the bus to save him - as Bush has done for Rove. As I stated at the time he quit, when Rove joins a campaign - as I predict he will - it will at the very least prove him a liar about his reasons for leaving. But the Republicans will forgive him. They always do. |
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| fab4fan | Oct 9 2007, 04:57 AM Post #300 |
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You're way above tell a lie often enough it becomes truth.
And Bridget & Corvair, you're so right about the "back to back to back to back" jack. |
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