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Bankaccount squared times zero = true fandom; Bunns` theory of paul fandom relativity
Topic Started: Nov 17 2006, 05:25 AM (754 Views)
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There has long been an ongoing arguement on Pauls "official board" and to a lesser degree (in light of Maccascruffs London experience what constitutes a TRUE FAN), on this board.

The prevailing attitude seems to be that if you are a true fan that not only will you spend your last dime, but will go heavily into debt, beg, borrow and steal to do anything in the pursuit of all things Paul Mccartney.

In other words these people seem to be advocating that unless you are willing to develope a self destructive additive habit then you cannot possibley be a true fan. Therefore how dare you even show your face at any event that you might find yourself fortunate enough to be able to afford to attend.

I got my The Space Within US Tour Dvd this week, and everytime I watch (which has been frequent bordering on a sickness) I cry tears of pure unadulterated joy. The music that this man and his collaborators made that created the sound track for my entire life ( since 1963) has never once failed to move me and lift me up.

If I were to buy into the stupidity of competing with anyone else on this planet as to my worthiness of being a true fan, then I would lose based on the benchmarks that most people seem to think are legitimate meassures of ones devotion to this man, his collegues and their music.

My goodness, I never even got to see him perform live until 1990. I guess that makes me a failure as a fan. It doesn`t matter that I fell madly in love with the Beatles in the summer of 1963 due to having new neighbors from England move in the house next to mine with young daughters who brought their records and fan mags with them, thus enabling me to get a taste before much of the rest of America got of them prior to Ed Sullivan. I guess I`m not as good a fan, even though I had a good deal of the merchandise when it originally was issued, and have all the records on vinly on the original labels they were first released on. I suppose because I was never able to be privledged enough to attend a Beatles Concert when they were still playing together and I never even saw any of them as a solo until my 1990 concert of Paul (due to lack of money, bad timing, and location location location) that I am not a true fan. I have never travelled outside the United States to see Paul I have only travelled outside my home state once to see him. I have only seen him perform live 3 times in my nearly 50 years on this planet.

However with all of my shortcomings as a fan, I have never once in my life been disappointed with the musical output that this gifted human being has given us. I can listen to all the songs a thousand times in a row and never grow tired of any of them.


So I made this thread for all of us who aren`t really true fans, because we cannot roam the planet on a moments notice and drop everything in our lives everytime a Paul or Ringo or any Beatle collaboration or event occurs to attend. This is for all of us that have to experience much of what happens in the world of the Beatles from the very distant sideline and occasionally are lucky enough to get a bit closer and have that experience sustain us until the next time.
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John came to me in a dream and this is what he said. "I had a vision of a man on a flaming pie, and he told me that Betsy with a B not Lisa with a L is the biggest fan of mine". John trumps 'the boss' !

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Oi august 1963 the rest of the ametuers can bog off.
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Nov 17 2006, 05:26 AM
Oi august 1963 the rest of the ametuers can bog off.

:D The true fans would point out that in 1963 you were barely potty trained and therefore couldn`t be a true fan. However I know that is not the case. ;)
You say you want to save humanity but it`s people that you just can`t stand
John came to me in a dream and this is what he said. "I had a vision of a man on a flaming pie, and he told me that Betsy with a B not Lisa with a L is the biggest fan of mine". John trumps 'the boss' !

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I am a true fan I haven't seen him once. First off my family comes before any singer. There need out ways me being a fan. and If I had money I would visit one of you from the board first. sorry to say that. but, Paul doesn't pay my bills and he sure doesn't chat with me eather. I do love him and his music. but, my family comes first! My opinion people .. Take or leave it.
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I'm with you, Betsy. The money aspect of 'fandom' is irritating and frustrating. For those people actually getting themselves into hopeless debt persuing their idols around the world, how are their memories going to help them when they're bankrupt & either homeless or relying on the goodwill of their friends & relatives?

Of course, those who are fortunate enough to have plenty of money and are able to indulge their 'fandom' to excess are no less fans of Paul than those who struggle to afford to see their idol, they're just the lucky ones who have the means to do all of the things the less-fortunate fans can only dream of. It's when people forget that they're fortunate is when the problems occur.

I consider myself one of the biggest admirers of Paul McCartney's music there is - I've seen him in concert once. Now, if Paul's tickets weren't so bloody expensive, then I'd probably have seen him plenty more times than that, but they're a considerable chunk of my disposable income and I enjoy being able to have electricity, pay my bills and being able to eat every day. Obviously a true fan has no need for such trivialities. :D
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Wonderful thread, Betsy!

I too would be considered a "back seat" fan. Although I've been a fan since February 1964, and was fortunate enough to see the Fabs in 1966, I missed the massive Wings Tour in 1976 for the flimsy reason that my sister and my future wife were graduating from High School that night. To be honest they both told me to go ahead to the concert, but silly me chose family and love over Wings. Take me out back and shoot me.

I saw Paul in 1990 (twice) and once in 1993. Then once in 2002. I was not fortunate enough to get to see him the last time around. I've seen Ringo 4 times as well. I can't seem to get over this need to pay my bills and eat rather than go bankrupt and follow (stalk) Paul or Ringo all over the world.

A bad back (arthritis) keeps me from attending Abbey Road on the River even though it is less than 10 miles away from where I live. WHAT A WIMP I AM!!

So, all that I've got to prove that I am a fan is....2 rooms of my home chock full of Beatles memorabilia, ALL of their LP's, most of them now in CD form, bootlegs out the wazoo, VHS tapes and DVD's, 2....2 mind you....HUGE bookcases full of Beatles/solo Beatles books, music books, concert programmes (including '64, '65, and '66 American tour programs) and my collection of imported Beatles monthly magazines. When I sit down for a meal, I use my Beatles salt and pepper shakers.

So, if you don't see me out on the road attending 20 Paul concerts in the future, or I'm not in line at the book signings in London and New York, or I'm not spotted in front of Cavendish Avenue taking photos, I'm probably stuck at home listening to Paul's "Piano Tapes" CD while reading or re-reading a book that was written while the Beatles were still together. Or one of George's lavish Genesis book offerings. Or looking back at photos taken outside the Dakota building in 1979...one year before John's assassination!! I was able to ask the doorman if John was at home. (I was told he was out of the country.)

It's a dirty job, but someone's got to do it! :P

And my bills are paid and I've got food in the pantry. And 6 cold Sapporo's in the fridge.

Ram on.
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Well, I was not around in the 60s....and was not able to see Paul live before 2003. I have seen him a few times and done the whole camping out to meet him but I don't see myself as being more or less into him than other people. I found it sickening the way some people were boasting about how much they'd spent on seeing Paul the last few tours. A lot of his fans seem to think money is an indicator of something there...
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Well, I guess by those standards, then my fandom is a figment of my imagination and I have no right whatsoever to even kiss the hem of a "real fans" garments!

No matter that I have all their records (I can't afford all on CD) and as many things as I have been able to accrue over the years. All the times I've played their albums amounted to nothing, apparently. Oh, and I've only seen Paul three times in concert, and the only seats we could afford were in the "nose bleed" sections of the venue, mainly because the cost of a ticket is extremely high. I haven't been able to drop everything to drive or fly to wherever Paul or Ringo go publically, either (shame on me!), or make the pilgramage to The Dakota building. That obviously proves I'm no fan of John's, too!

So if a "true fan" is measured by that criteria, then I guess I fall short, too...you aren't alone. We "failures" should hang our heads and feel shamed that we haven't measured up to what being a fan really means! ;)

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Nov 17 2006, 06:22 AM
I am a true fan I haven't seen him once. First off my family comes before any singer. There need out ways me being a fan. and If I had money I would visit one of you from the board first. sorry to say that. but, Paul doesn't pay my bills and he sure doesn't chat with me eather. I do love him and his music. but, my family comes first! My opinion people .. Take or leave it.

What a sweet sentiment, Dotty. And I would be honored if you ever visited me.

Betsy, right on girl.

Although I've been BeatleBarb since before puberty, I didn't go apeshit until recently when I saw Paul a dozen or so times since 2002. Life is what happens while your busy making other plans, or something like that.
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I was told I wasn't a true fan by some of the people I went to London with because I don't have the "passion" to go into debt, get a last minute flight to NY, camp out in the rain, etc. for a minute with Paul. It made me sick and I told them so and then blocked them from being able to contact me. Those people are totally selfish. They all already had Paul's autograph and now have two more. They had all already met Paul previously and now have again. But I am not a true fan because I didn't join in.

I am sorry, but I had shot my wad going to London and could not drop everything and go to NY at the last minute any more than I can get back to London for the signing there. I have had the pleasure of Paul calling me maccascruff and that just may have to do.

I am very sick of the bragging going on all over the internet.

Yes, I have seen Paul way too many times. I had the money. It's paid for. I won't go into debt to see Paul McCartney. I wasn't going to take more time off from my pathetic job. I don't get paid when I don't go to work.

I also got told a lot of ugly things that I won't go into.

So, here I am. Not A True Fan. How do I change my user name?
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Nov 17 2006, 03:46 PM
I was told I wasn't a true fan by some of the people I went to London with because I don't have the "passion" to go into debt, get a last minute flight to NY, camp out in the rain, etc. for a minute with Paul. It made me sick and I told them so and then blocked them from being able to contact me. Those people are totally selfish. They all already had Paul's autograph and now have two more. They had all already met Paul previously and now have again. But I am not a true fan because I didn't join in.

I am sorry, but I had shot my wad going to London and could not drop everything and go to NY at the last minute any more than I can get back to London for the signing there. I have had the pleasure of Paul calling me maccascruff and that just may have to do.

I am very sick of the bragging going on all over the internet.

Yes, I have seen Paul way too many times. I had the money. It's paid for. I won't go into debt to see Paul McCartney. I wasn't going to take more time off from my pathetic job. I don't get paid when I don't go to work.

I also got told a lot of ugly things that I won't go into.

So, here I am. Not A True Fan. How do I change my user name?

I know what you mean, Linda.

I got into a disagreement over one of these "true fans" once. She thought John sang lead on "Chains". I disagreed, rolled my eyes, :rolleyes: :rolleyes: , and informed her that it was George.

I may not be the huge mega fan in her eyes, but I do try my hardest to get my facts straight.
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I have loved Paul McCartney and the Beatles since February 9, 1964. I didn't get an opportunity to see Paul until 1990. I have all the LPs, 45s, CDs, etc., but because I didn't jump at flying to NY for this signing, told them I thought they were totally selfish because they have already met Paul and already have his autograph numerous times, I am NOT A TRUE FAN.
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Sorry Betsy, but you're not a true fan! :lol: Re-Fi the house and fly to London to see Paul walk out of a public toilet and shake his hand before it's even dry. Then max out a credit card buying all of his art and books and tickets to any show that may be the least bit Paul related. Then you're about 1/4 the way to becoming a true fan. :lol:
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Sorry Betsy, but you're not a true fan! :lol: Re-Fi the house and fly to London to see Paul walk out of a public toilet and shake his hand before it's even dry. Then max out a credit card buying all of his art and books and tickets to any show that may be the least bit Paul related. Then you're about 1/4 the way to becoming a true fan. :lol:

Beep, you left out the part where Linda should grab the toilet paper that Paul wiped with!!! :P :rolleyes:




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Nov 17 2006, 06:22 AM
I  am a true fan I haven't seen him once. First off my family comes before any singer. There need  out ways me being a fan. and If I had money I would visit one of you from the board  first. sorry to say that. but, Paul doesn't pay my bills and he sure doesn't chat with me eather. I do love him and his music. but,  my family comes first! My opinion people .. Take or leave it.

What a sweet sentiment, Dotty. And I would be honored if you ever visited me.

Betsy, right on girl.

Although I've been BeatleBarb since before puberty, I didn't go apeshit until recently when I saw Paul a dozen or so times since 2002. Life is what happens while your busy making other plans, or something like that.

You sure about that? I might talk you head off.. :P :D :lol: just keep me away from the coffee. it tend to hype me out. :P :D :lol:
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I hate the term "true fans." I think we are all fans and just because a person can afford to follow Paul everywhere doesn't make them better and it's sad that some people believe that.

I became a Beatles fan at 15 (I'm 27 now) when the Beatles Anthology aired on TV. I had to miss the 2002 tour because I was a poor college kid but I was lucky enough to attend the Milwaukee show with my mom last year and it was one of the best moments I've had. I would love the opportunity to meet Paul but I won't rearrange my life to do it. I think some fans forget that Paul is just a person who happens to have an extraordinary talent, he shouldn't be put on a pedestal, but since some do they feel it's their mission to meet him. Me personally, I might stand overnight but not in the cold, pouring rain. Plus, you stand all that time for maybe 30 seconds, not worth it in my opinion.

As far as people getting multiple autographs, I saw that someone raised that point on pm.com and they got blasted for it, but it makes sense, how many signatures do you need, unless of course you're selling them on EBay. Bottom line, I don't think anyone should be told they're not a "true" fan because they have a life and don't want to stand in line. Just my .02.

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I honestly don't care what kind of fan anyone else judges me to be, I know what I am. :D
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I know who I am too. I am just a flurt. :P :D :lol:
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Exactly what are the terms of being a "true" fan? Yes, I have seen Paul a number of times, even met him (no autographs to show, though sorry :hmm: ), met Heather (I know boo/hiss), seen Ringo a couple of times, and waited in line for concert tickets twice (before you could buy them online). I even have gone to Beatleweek and went to Mendips and Forthin Rd. Hell I even did the stroll at Abbey Road but does this make me anymore of a fan than say Dotty? Just because I was able to save, scrimp, and get by does not make me any better than somebody who isn't as lucky as I am. Just because you are lucky, and have the money, enough to drop everything and be at the latest sighting does not make you any truer of a fan as somebody who is not in your shoes!
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I love this thread and shame on anyone who would question the depth or sincerity of a Paul/Beatles fan. Was I more of a fan the day in 1976 when I cried because I couldn't afford to go to the Wings concert that was held in my town or was I more of a fan the time I could afford to buy nose bleed tickets in 1990 or the time in 2005 when I got 11th row. Life changes, circumstances changes but my love for Paul and the Beatles has never changed.
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Nov 17 2006, 07:46 PM
I love this thread and shame on anyone who would question the depth or sincerity of a Paul/Beatles fan. Was I more of a fan the day in 1976 when I cried because I couldn't afford to go to the Wings concert that was held in my town or was I more of a fan the time I could afford to buy nose bleed tickets in 1990 or the time in 2005 when I got 11th row. Life changes, circumstances changes but my love for Paul and the Beatles has never changed.

Well said, Irene and Cathy. Spoken like true fans. ;) :D




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Very well said, Irene and Cathy. Today I'm told I need to move to NY if I don't want to spend the money and time to get to things like signings.

I am no longer a true fan. Maybe I never was one. I was one of the people very early in the thread over there that said it isn't right for these people to collect multiple autographs. Several of the people who were right in front of the line last week got autographs at shows on the US tour and also got autographs at the High in the Clouds signs. They are in the program and they are in the DVD. I just don't understand the need to have dozens of Paul McCartney autographs--unless they are going to sell them on eBay when the hullabaloo dies down. I don't understand why I got blasted and then another person did for saying it was selfish and insensitive to keep on collecting these autographs. They are getting great pleasure out of telling of their sacrifice of being out in the cold and rain. You know what. I don't care. I did what I could afford.

I am so not a fan that I chose not to see Wings when they came here in 1967. My boyfriend and I had only enough money for once concert and I chose John Denver. :whistle: Yes, my lifestyle and priorities have changed since then, but I don't understand why I am not a true fan or a good fan because I don't have enough passion or I'd understand why you drop everything and go. They were sending me such nasty emails that I blocked these people.

I did PM the guy over there who said what I had several pages earlier and got jumped on. And he lives in NY.
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I'm so sorry to hear of this situation. I hope it didn't effect your trip. I think I know some of these people and it will sadden me if they are not the type of people I thought they were.
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How childish, Linda. I'm sorry you were subjected to such nonsense. And really, just how many autographs does one need...sounds like notches on a belt or something. I got disgusted a few years back when I heard about the same people getting albums signed at concerts. Maybe its just envy on my part as I really would cherish such an event in my life, but if I already had an autorgraph, and I had the opportunity to get another, I would most certainly do it for a fellow friend or fan...without a doubt.
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Linda, I agree. These people who are in the book, DVD, programme, and have 9 autographs annoy me. Although, then again, I have 2 autographs and am considering going again this coming week.
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Truth is people are entitled to get as many autographs as they want to stand in the freezing rain for. I don't begrudge them that but I can't understand knocking someone for not having the means, time or desire to do so. We are all "true fans" here, sounds like some are bordering on fanATICS.
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Truth is people are entitled to get as many autographs as they want to stand in the freezing rain for. I don't begrudge them that but I can't understand knocking someone for not having the means, time or desire to do so. We are all "true fans" here, sounds like some are bordering on fanATICS.

Irene you are right but I have been in 2 minds about this issue; the one about numbers of autographs and here's my conclusion.

There are assholes who are going to queue overnight for an autograph....for eBay. Jerks, yes. Anyone who wants to is free to queue. So if I want to queue, I can, and I'd deserve the autograph. And I won't sell it on eBay. Fair enough, some people, eg Linda, can't get to places. Nothing wrong with that.
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What makes a "true fan"?

The way you feel in your own heart about Paul...... :wub:
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Take a sad song, and make it better..."
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Nov 19 2006, 06:57 AM
Truth is people are entitled to get as many autographs as they want to stand in the freezing rain for. I don't begrudge them that but I can't understand knocking someone for not having the means, time or desire to do so. We are all "true fans" here, sounds like some are bordering on fanATICS.

Irene, they are FANATICS, in the worse sense of the word. They will never include me in anything again and that is fine with me. They already didn't include me, but Lauren was a wonderful hostess.

I have a big time problem with this harvesting of autographs. I don't understand why people need so many. I don't mean someone like Lauren who is considering getting a third autograph. I mean the nutty ones who for all I knew flew off to London. I know it was being considered, but do not know what was decided since I blocked them all.

What really upset me is that they belittled me for not being able to go to NY and not willing to make the sacrifice to do so. I didn't have the money to go again and I didn't have a ticket for Carnegie Hall. I am sorry, but I guess I am not a good fan because I didn't see the reasoning in flying to NY for 30 seconds with Paul. A last minute airline ticket costs a fortune.

I also really do not like this competition among fans about who is a good fan and who isn't.

Barb, I met someone in Sacramento who was near tears after the concert because she had 8 autographs she had gotten from Paul at concerts and this was the first time she had not gotten one and she always sits in the front row. I didn't feel the least bit sorry for her. I'd like one.
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Nov 19 2006, 09:22 AM
What makes a "true fan"?

The way you feel in your own heart about Paul...... :wub:

Beautifully said. :wub:
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Nov 19 2006, 05:23 PM

Barb, I met someone in Sacramento who was near tears after the concert because she had 8 autographs she had gotten from Paul at concerts and this was the first time she had not gotten one and she always sits in the front row. I didn't feel the least bit sorry for her. I'd like one.

This is what I'm talking about, Linda. It's selfish, greedy, and downright pathetic. I don't begrudge others for their efforts - whatever turns you on, but this turns me off and it's the negative part of fandom! Again, "fan" is derived from fanatic.
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And two of the people I went to London with appear to be headed back for more autographs. FANatics. :whistle:
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Its all subjective.To me I'm a true fan,To everyone else on here who post regulary I would say you were all true fans too, you just show it in different ways and whos to say whos wrong or right.

I've never seen him live and i dont have any autographs.To be fair i only truely got into him at the start of this year by buying my first album of his(wingspan and BOTR shortly afterwords) I've liked him for years but knew little of his music until this year and now I'm glad I know his music more.

I dont stalk him.I dont think I'd like to bother writing to him but I would love to meet him one day even if its only briefly(hopefully that is Wednesday)I would also love to see him live(yet I'd love to see loads of people live)

I love talking about him and his music to my friends(who dont really care but they hear how great he is none the less :lol: ) and to people like you who are just as enthusiastic about him or The Beatles

There should be unity not division,why cant we all just join together and appreciate the man and his music and not get tied up on whos the best fan and who knows the most,who has his autograph a trillion times or who hasnt been fortunate enough to get it yet.

I'm flying from Scotland on Tues for what I'm seeing as a once and a life time opportunity but that doesnt make be better or more of a fan than someone who lives in London who cant make it just to hang out in the cold and get a scribble on a piece of paper.....each to their own

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Nov 20 2006, 02:19 AM
And two of the people I went to London with appear to be headed back for more autographs.  FANatics. :whistle:

Oh dear. You mean Americans or others? SOme of those people are very, very sad. I mean, I live in London so it's easy for me, literally straight from Golders Green to Piccadilly on the 13 bus and I am there.
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Nov 20 2006, 02:52 AM
Its all subjective.To me I'm a true fan,To everyone else on here who post regulary I would say you were all true fans too, you just show it in different ways and whos to say whos wrong or right.

I've never seen him live and i dont have any autographs.To be fair i only truely got into him at the start of this year by buying my first album of his(wingspan and BOTR shortly afterwords) I've liked him for years but knew little of his music until this year and now I'm glad I know his music more.

I dont stalk him.I dont think I'd like to bother writing to him but I would love to meet him one day even if its only briefly(hopefully that is Wednesday)I would also love to see him live(yet I'd love to see loads of people live)

I love talking about him and his music to my friends(who dont really care but they hear how great he is none the less :lol: ) and to people like you who are just as enthusiastic about him or The Beatles

There should be unity not division,why cant we all just join together and appreciate the man and his music and not get tied up on whos the best fan and who knows the most,who has his autograph a trillion times or who hasnt been fortunate enough to get it yet.

I'm flying from Scotland on Tues for what I'm seeing as a once and a life time opportunity but that doesnt make be better or more of a fan than someone who lives in London who cant make it just to hang out in the cold and get a scribble on a piece of paper.....each to their own

Love Paul or anything else in the life the way you want to not what others expect

Great post! There should be unity, not division and, as individuals, we all express our fandom in different ways. What some people call being a 'true fan', I would call an obsession and would say that people who base their lives around seeing Paul, meeting Paul and spending all (and more) of their disposable income following Paul aren't necessarily acting in a way that would suggest that they had perfectly balanced mental health. However, I'm a big believer in freedom of choice and, if that is how they choose to live their life then who are we to criticise? The problem comes when these people criticise others for not doing what they do.

So, why do these obsessives criticise people, who are obviously huge admirers of Paul, for not being 'true fans'? I would offer the theory that when other people behave in the same manner, it makes them feel validated and more comfortable about their own feelings & behaviour. All of us here are all visiting a Beatles messageboard most days - that should really tell you how we all feel about The Beatles. Nobody has anything to prove to anybody - the next time you hear someone say, "Ah well, a real fan would do this!", you can comfort yourselves with the thought that a real Beatles fan understands the messages of love, peace and brotherhood the Beatles delivered & would want to unite and not divide.
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Andy you always say things so beautifully. I have been thinking along the same lines but have not been able to put my thoughts into such eloquent words. I was going to say something like , these people are nuts and need to get a life, but I'm glad you said it your way. I also can't help but thinking that Paul would be the first to say that true fans wouldn't behave that way and probably thinks those fans that he sees over and over are a bit over the top.
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Andy, you rock!
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Nov 20 2006, 04:58 AM
Andy you always say things so beautifully. I have been thinking along the same lines but have not been able to put my thoughts into such eloquent words. I was going to say something like , these people are nuts and need to get a life, but I'm glad you said it your way. I also can't help but thinking that Paul would be the first to say that true fans wouldn't behave that way and probably thinks those fans that he sees over and over are a bit over the top.

Right on the money, Andy and Irene. ;)




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well i got me haircut but it's cold and i have no chance of meeting him so the beard is staying.


over 160 at 9.30 pm apparently.
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well i got me haircut but it's cold and i have no chance of meeting him so the beard is staying.


over 160 at 9.30 pm apparently.

Are you very far from Virgin Records, Peter. Is it much of a trek for you? Regardless, it will be quite a wait, won't it. Well, good luck to those who will be standing in line to see Paul.
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And two of the people I went to London with appear to be headed back for more autographs.  FANatics. :whistle:

Oh dear. You mean Americans or others? SOme of those people are very, very sad. I mean, I live in London so it's easy for me, literally straight from Golders Green to Piccadilly on the 13 bus and I am there.

I mean Americans, Lauren. Pitiful in my mind.
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I also can't help but thinking that Paul would be the first to say that true fans wouldn't behave that way and probably thinks those fans that he sees over and over are a bit over the top.

Andy, I do like your way of thinking.

Irene, this is oh so true, IMO.
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well i got me haircut but it's cold and i have no chance of meeting him so the beard is staying.


over 160 at 9.30 pm apparently.

Are you very far from Virgin Records, Peter. Is it much of a trek for you? Regardless, it will be quite a wait, won't it. Well, good luck to those who will be standing in line to see Paul.


On the fast train it is an hour to London Waterloo then it is five minutes on the tube to Piccadilly. Sodding freezing here just put my heating up to 20C, i try to keep it about 16 or 17 which is low 60's. Had a ten or 15 minute kip and feeling rotten but will still probably go. there was no way i could stick go earlier i still get too much pain from the hernia i sit on a cushion on the computer chair which is the right height, my legs and knees are at 90 degrees. Hopefully i can get along and see how lauren doing when i get there.

Not getting a band is a blessing on the credit card :D i mean do i really want to pay full whack for another tour dvd. And you never know i may get close enough outside to give a shout and get a good piccie, i reckon there be enough to close off the pavement.
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Ouch...take care with that hernia situation, Peter. I know my father, suffered terribly from several operations and it was no fun. Hope you meet up with Lauren and you both get a glimpse, or better yet a meeting with our friend. Tell him BeatleBarb sends her luv!
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I also can't help but thinking that Paul would be the first to say  that true fans wouldn't behave that way and probably thinks those fans that he sees over and over are a bit over the top.

Andy, I do like your way of thinking.

Irene, this is oh so true, IMO.

Thanks Linda, Irene, Bev & Barb - glad you appreciated my thoughts on this matter! ^_^
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And two of the people I went to London with appear to be headed back for more autographs.  FANatics. :whistle:

Oh dear. You mean Americans or others? SOme of those people are very, very sad. I mean, I live in London so it's easy for me, literally straight from Golders Green to Piccadilly on the 13 bus and I am there.

I mean Americans, Lauren. Pitiful in my mind.

God yes. Luckily, I didn't see any Americans I recognised...
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Clearly I am the biggest McCartney fan here. I may not like all of his music and I own no DVDs or any other McCartney merchandise that cannot be played, and when I was in London it never crossed my mind to stalk his house or photograph myself at Abbey Road, but if someone offered me free tickets to one of his concerts and it was in the city and I did not have any other plans that night I would probably go.

My dedication knows many bounds.

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Nov 18 2006, 09:08 PM
Today I'm told I need to move to NY if I don't want to spend the money and time to get to things like signings. 

I was probably in the city on the day of that signing, yet it never occurred to me to stand in a line all day just so I could buy some overpriced CD that I do not even like.

When people tell you what you need to do, tell them to go to hell (not that I am telling you what to do).

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I am very sick of the bragging going on all over the internet.

I have been to Wallace Shawn's house.

And I can touch my chin with my tongue.
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i have never been to any of his homes not even when informed by a Police Officer that he was back in Merseyside, I actually consider it bad form to go to his houses.

I did'nt shave as it was likely that i wouldnt met him i also prefered to buy others cd's than his since there was no siggie.


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