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Love Vs. Sex; Can you have one without the other?
Topic Started: Oct 11 2006, 07:00 PM (1,081 Views)
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The past few months I have been involved with someone who wants our realtionship to be purely physical. No emotions, no love... just two consenting adults that are compatable. Last night as we were on the phone talking, the subject came up again about love, and soul mates. He believes that there is no such thing as a soul mate, just two people who are compatable. And that if that one person... your soul mate leaves... you will find just another person.

I dissagree with my whole heart!! Call me a hopeless romantic... call me whatever... but how could you not have love and a soul mate. And more so, how can one become intimate without emotions? I dont want to sound sexist, but I do know its slightly easier for guys to do such things.. but is it really? Guys, your thoughts? Can one have sex without emotions? Can one live life without LOVE?

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Oct 11 2006, 11:00 AM
The past few months I have been involved with someone who wants our realtionship to be purely physical. No emotions, no love... just two consenting adults that are compatable. Last night as we were on the phone talking, the subject came up again about love, and soul mates. He believes that there is no such thing as a soul mate, just two people who are compatable. And that if that one person... your soul mate leaves... you will find just another person.

I dissagree with my whole heart!! Call me a hopeless romantic... call me whatever... but how could you not have love and a soul mate. And more so, how can one become intimate without emotions? I dont want to sound sexist, but I do know its slightly easier for guys to do such things.. but is it really? Guys, your thoughts? Can one have sex without emotions? Can one live life without LOVE?

I ghess one can.. But, I can't
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I think your friend has a pretty cynical attitude. The existence of soul mates is just an opinion but true love is undeniable. Can there be sex without love? Of course, because it happens. But I couldn't do it.
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You can have sex without being in Love. But why would you want to? Physical needs can be satisfied in many ways without having to have 2 people to consumate it. Having sex when you are in love with your partner takes it to a level that cannot be compared to just fulfilling an urge. Sometimes for just a minute I envy people who seem to be able to detach themselves emotionally from what they are doing physically because I think then maybe life isn`t so complicated for them. After a minute I always come to my senses and remind myself that after having had it both ways, I would never have it again without love.

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Oct 11 2006, 12:06 PM
I think your friend has a pretty cynical attitude. The existence of soul mates is just an opinion but true love is undeniable. Can there be sex without love? Of course, because it happens. But I couldn't do it.

well, it does happen, true.. look at all the one night stands, the booty calls and everything.. but I just dont see how being so intimate, wont cause some sort of emotional attachment.

Yes, cynical is a perfect for to describe him. I was thinking last night that someone must have really screwed him over in the past. And I am a smart girl, i usually wouldnt give this guy the time of day.... but there is something there.. something that is slightly fasinating. Ugh...(i hate that).

But I do believe in soul mates. I belive my parents are soul mates.. they have been very very happily married for going on 34 years. They were MENT to be together... could they find someone else.. sure they can.. but would it be right for them.? who knows!? But may be your right Fi, True love vs. Soul Mates.... hmmm..



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I believe love HAS to be there for sex to be meaningful. I've experienced it both ways with the same girl, regret all of it, but it was better when I felt a connection.
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Yes, they can exist together and separate. It all depends on your individual needs at any given moment in your life; there's no right or wrong combination. They should never be forced to coexist because that only creates gradual conflict. Yes, we all need love more or less (some prefer casual flings), but that doesn't mean that's all we should accept into our lives. Good safe sexual fun is just as important to me as love. Both have their ups and downs and both allow us to discover ourselves. Sometimes our animalistic needs need to be satisfied as well as out emotional needs.
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Oct 11 2006, 11:19 AM
Yes, they can exist together and separate. It all depends on your individual needs at any given moment in your life; there's no right or wrong combination. They should never be forced to coexist because that only creates gradual conflict. Yes, we all need love more or less (some prefer casual flings), but that doesn't mean that's all we should accept into our lives. Good safe sexual fun is just as important to me as love. Both have their ups and downs and both allow us to discover ourselves.

Yes, you do discorver something if not a disease.. :P :D :lol:
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Oct 11 2006, 07:21 PM
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Yes, they can exist together and separate.  It all depends on your individual needs at any given moment in your life; there's no right or wrong combination.  They should never be forced to coexist because that only creates gradual conflict.  Yes, we all need love more or less (some prefer casual flings), but that doesn't mean that's all we should accept into our lives.  Good safe sexual fun is just as important to me as love.  Both have their ups and downs and both allow us to discover ourselves.

Yes, you do discorver something if not a disease.. :P :D :lol:

Which is why i said "safe". ;)
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Yes, they can exist together and separate.  It all depends on your individual needs at any given moment in your life; there's no right or wrong combination.  They should never be forced to coexist because that only creates gradual conflict.  Yes, we all need love more or less (some prefer casual flings), but that doesn't mean that's all we should accept into our lives.  Good safe sexual fun is just as important to me as love.  Both have their ups and downs and both allow us to discover ourselves.

Yes, you do discorver something if not a disease.. :P :D :lol:

Which is why i said "safe". ;)

Is sex always safe? A condom can always break.. ;)
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i love you lisa.. i love how you put things :) Lets got be animalistic together baby !:)


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Oh my what a concept sex with love. :o
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Yes, sex without love is very very possible. I have done it myself. I wouldn't now, but I was sowing my wild oats at the time and quickly realized that it leaves you feeling rather empty and used.

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Oct 11 2006, 10:19 PM
Yes, they can exist together and separate. It all depends on your individual needs at any given moment in your life; there's no right or wrong combination. They should never be forced to coexist because that only creates gradual conflict. Yes, we all need love more or less (some prefer casual flings), but that doesn't mean that's all we should accept into our lives. Good safe sexual fun is just as important to me as love. Both have their ups and downs and both allow us to discover ourselves. Sometimes our animalistic needs need to be satisfied as well as out emotional needs.

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There is safe sex. ;) Cyber sex with a friend.. No, disease attach. just pure lust.. :P :D :lol:
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Why, should fall in love anyways. It just another feeling you have to deal with. Who like to feel the pain of a heart break. Or any pain
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Oct 11 2006, 02:42 PM
Why, should fall in love anyways. It just another feeling you have to deal with. Who like to feel the pain of a heart break. Or any pain

Why not fall inlove... i believe the heart break is WORTH the chance of having love..

its better to have loved and lost.. isnt that what they say?!?

I would never trade anything in the world for the short moments that I felt completely happy and loved...

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Oct 11 2006, 02:09 PM
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Why, should fall in love anyways. It just another feeling you have to deal with. Who like to feel the pain of a heart break. Or any pain

Why not fall inlove... i believe the heart break is WORTH the chance of having love..

its better to have loved and lost.. isnt that what they say?!?

I would never trade anything in the world for the short moments that I felt completely happy and loved...

Will, the way I am hurting now! I rather not loved.
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I agree with Tassy, yes there can be sex without love. I've done it a few times in my college years and about two years ago, yet I don't really regret what I've done since I was dating the guys in question or was close to them, I felt really empty because it wasn't with someone I trully love or felt comfortable with. Now with my boyfriend, I'm able to really enjoy sex as I would like to because I'm extremely comfortable and madly in love with him. So yes you can have it without love, sure it might be great, but at the end of it all, you'll think, "ok, so now what?" That's a really shitty thought to have.
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I no longer would have sex without love. After two flings over 30 years ago, I found out what sex is like with someone you love. It is so much more fulfilling. It is worth the heartbreak. I've had that, too. It was worth it, even though when the break up happened I didn't think so. I grew so much in that relationship that did go on for over 15 years. The one I am in now has gone on most of the time for over 12 years. Guess I go for long-term relationships with my male best friend.
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I didnt believe in soul mates until I found mine... :wub: :wub: :wub: :blush: :blush: :blush:


masturbation is like sex without love...why do I need another person if I have my hands? I dont like that type of sex.

I like to make love!!!!
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There are some people who can be fulfilled by sex without love. I'm not one of them, but I have to confess, there are times when I wish I could. Many times I've been envious of friends who can pick up, have a good shag, then say 'have a nice life' in the morning and feel fulfilled by that. I'm not knocking it if that's what works for someone - it just doesn't work for me. There are just times when I wish I could be more easily pleased.

But to address the original post, I'm sad to say that nothing good is every going to happen when one person wants no-strings and the other wants a soul mate. The best-case scenario there is that one will give sex in order to be loved and the other will give love in order to have sex. It will never be fulfilling and you shouldn't settle.

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Oct 11 2006, 03:11 PM
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Why, should fall in love anyways. It just another feeling you have to deal with. Who like to feel the pain of a heart break. Or any pain

Why not fall inlove... i believe the heart break is WORTH the chance of having love..

its better to have loved and lost.. isnt that what they say?!?

I would never trade anything in the world for the short moments that I felt completely happy and loved...

Will, the way I am hurting now! I rather not loved.

Dotty, don't shut your heart off just because one assh*le screwed you up. There are many other people out there that need and want a good woman, or man, it is you who has to find them. Sex without love is like a day without sunshine. Sure it can be enjoyable but so much more meaningful when you are in love. I would rather have loved someone than never have loved at all because it is a deep pure feeling that opens your heart to all kind of possiblities that you never knew existed. It can also open your heart to break but that's the chance you have to take. Life is full of chances, there are no safety nets.
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Oct 11 2006, 06:48 PM
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Oct 11 2006, 02:09 PM
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Oct 11 2006, 02:42 PM
Why, should fall in love anyways. It just another feeling you have to deal with. Who like to feel the pain of a heart break. Or any pain

Why not fall inlove... i believe the heart break is WORTH the chance of having love..

its better to have loved and lost.. isnt that what they say?!?

I would never trade anything in the world for the short moments that I felt completely happy and loved...

Will, the way I am hurting now! I rather not loved.

Dotty, don't shut your heart off just because one assh*le screwed you up. There are many other people out there that need and want a good woman, or man, it is you who has to find them. Sex without love is like a day without sunshine. Sure it can be enjoyable but so much more meaningful when you are in love. I would rather have loved someone than never have loved at all because it is a deep pure feeling that opens your heart to all kind of possiblities that you never knew existed. It can also open your heart to break but that's the chance you have to take. Life is full of chances, there are no safety nets.

I don't need sex at all. The truth is it doesn't brother me. And No, I will not give anyone else a chance again to be with me like I did Brandon. I am happy with being friends with the people on this board. And that is good enough for me. If one day I do open my heart that would have to be in mare future. But, I doubt it. I already have few people asking me out. And some is wanting to have a one night stand with me. I don't think so... I am not all about sex. I may joke around about it but, that is about it.
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What is life without understanding? And what is love if no one cares about you. And what is anything if you are not happy. What is a future if there is nothing for you to look forward too. But, A wall of emptiness. Before anyone say's Are you Drunk. No, i am not just unhappy at the moment. :cry:
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There are some people who can be fulfilled by sex without love. I'm not one of them, but I have to confess, there are times when I wish I could. Many times I've been envious of friends who can pick up, have a good shag, then say 'have a nice life' in the morning and feel fulfilled by that. I'm not knocking it if that's what works for someone - it just doesn't work for me. There are just times when I wish I could be more easily pleased.

But to address the original post, I'm sad to say that nothing good is every going to happen when one person wants no-strings and the other wants a soul mate. The best-case scenario there is that one will give sex in order to be loved and the other will give love in order to have sex. It will never be fulfilling and you shouldn't settle.

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bill.. you always say the right thing. Thank you for sharing your very wise words.. and for the lyrics... wow... powerful stuff!

Thank you my friend... really!
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There are some people who can be fulfilled by sex without love. I'm not one of them, but I have to confess, there are times when I wish I could. Many times I've been envious of friends who can pick up, have a good shag, then say 'have a nice life' in the morning and feel fulfilled by that. I'm not knocking it if that's what works for someone - it just doesn't work for me. There are just times when I wish I could be more easily pleased.

But to address the original post, I'm sad to say that nothing good is every going to happen when one person wants no-strings and the other wants a soul mate. The best-case scenario there is that one will give sex in order to be loved and the other will give love in order to have sex. It will never be fulfilling and you shouldn't settle.

http://z3.invisionfree.com/Strawberry_Fiel...0&#entry2082955

bill.. you always say the right thing. Thank you for sharing your very wise words.. and for the lyrics... wow... powerful stuff!

Thank you my friend... really!

Caurse, he does..:)
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Well if you say so, I don't know you can find some one you love then find out that your partner is no good in the sex department. and Vice a versal
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There are some people who can be fulfilled by sex without love. I'm not one of them, but I have to confess, there are times when I wish I could. Many times I've been envious of friends who can pick up, have a good shag, then say 'have a nice life' in the morning and feel fulfilled by that. I'm not knocking it if that's what works for someone - it just doesn't work for me. There are just times when I wish I could be more easily pleased.

But to address the original post, I'm sad to say that nothing good is every going to happen when one person wants no-strings and the other wants a soul mate. The best-case scenario there is that one will give sex in order to be loved and the other will give love in order to have sex. It will never be fulfilling and you shouldn't settle.

http://z3.invisionfree.com/Strawberry_Fiel...0&#entry2082955

bill.. you always say the right thing. Thank you for sharing your very wise words.. and for the lyrics... wow... powerful stuff!

Thank you my friend... really!

Caurse, he does..:)

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The problem with the concept of soul mates is that most people never find theirs. Imagine that there is one person on the planet that you are "meant" to be with, and you never will. How depressing is that. This also implies that everyone is meant to be with someone. A lot of people are frightened, disturbed and/or confused by this, but some of us neither want nor need to be attached to someone else. So if that guy who begged me to marry him a few years ago is supposed to be my soul mate, he is SOL. Now he has to live the rest of his life meandering from one souless relationship to another simply because his soul mate likes to be independent. He can never be happy or find a fulfilling relationship because it cannot be with his soul mate. He is cosmically screwed. That just seems unfair.

As for sex without love, it rocks.
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just give me the sex drama queens need not apply

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that is wierd my post is at 11.19 then dotty qoutes me and suddenly my post is at 3.19.
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I've never believed that there is one and only one person for any individual. I'm sure that for any given person, there are many potential soulmates. The trick is finding one of them.

As Tim Freedman wrote,

She was one in a million,
So there's five more just in New South Wales


Perhaps the difference between those who believe in soulmates and those who don't, is the difference between asking what you can bring to a relationship and asking what you can take from it.
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Not only that is it cultural.
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Oct 12 2006, 03:27 AM
that is wierd my post is at 11.19 then dotty qoutes me and suddenly my post is at 3.19.

I have that effect.. :P :D :lol: What think it was peter was your heart rate dropping for me... :wub:
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I've never believed that there is one and only one person for any individual. I'm sure that for any given person, there are many potential soulmates. The trick is finding one of them.

As Tim Freedman wrote,

She was one in a million,
So there's five more just in New South Wales


Perhaps the difference between those who believe in soulmates and those who don't, is the difference between asking what you can bring to a relationship and asking what you can take from it.

You never know.. You might even pass your soul mate up not even knowing it.
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hardly as some of your compatriots don't get i have me feet firmly on the ground, especialy now that i can walk and not limp along.
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Oct 12 2006, 03:47 AM
hardly as some of your compatriots don't get i have me feet firmly on the ground, especialy now that i can walk and not limp along.

Dorothy chase peter around the room.. :wub:
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I'm sure everyone who marries considers that person their soul mate.

What do you call a former soul mate once divorce occurs?....a few names come to mind.

Not sure if I buy the soul mate thing, or at least that there is only one.
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I'm sure everyone who marries considers that person their soul mate. 

What do you call a former soul mate once divorce occurs?....a few names come to mind.

Not sure if I buy the soul mate thing, or at least that there is only one.

Nope, I never was in love with my husband..We both were talk in marrying each other by his mom we lived with her and she threating to kick both of us out of her house if we didn't get married. and plus we liked the idol going to los vegas.
That is only reason we got married, now, I regret the mistake i made when I just turn 18. Now, i am having a hard time divorcing him..ERRRRRRRRRRR. The only mistake I didn't make with him was my four beautiful children..
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I'm sure everyone who marries considers that person their soul mate. 

What do you call a former soul mate once divorce occurs?....a few names come to mind.

Not sure if I buy the soul mate thing, or at least that there is only one.

Nope, I never was in love with my husband..We both were talk in marrying each other by his mom we lived with her and she threating to kick both of us out of her house if we didn't get married. and plus we liked the idol going to los vegas.
That is only reason we got married, now, I regret the mistake i made when I just turn 18. Now, i am having a hard time divorcing him..ERRRRRRRRRRR.

Sorry about that Dorothy. I hope you know now that there are other things you can do in Vegas besides going to one of the wedding chapels.

Why are you up so early, like me? :D
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I'm sure everyone who marries considers that person their soul mate. 

What do you call a former soul mate once divorce occurs?....a few names come to mind.

Not sure if I buy the soul mate thing, or at least that there is only one.

Nope, I never was in love with my husband..We both were talk in marrying each other by his mom we lived with her and she threating to kick both of us out of her house if we didn't get married. and plus we liked the idol going to los vegas.
That is only reason we got married, now, I regret the mistake i made when I just turn 18. Now, i am having a hard time divorcing him..ERRRRRRRRRRR.

Sorry about that Dorothy. I hope you know now that there are other things you can do in Vegas besides going to one of the wedding chapels.

Why are you up so early, like me? :D

Because, I never went to bed. i have a hard time sleeping..
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Seeing as you all seem to know so much about love, I hope you don't mind if I ask for a bit of advice. I've never been in love so I don't know how it feels like. How can you tell if you're in love? I'm going out with someone at the moment and whenever we're together I keep wanting to tell em that I love em. Should I?? Or would it freak em out?? :unsure:

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Well do you find yourself involuntarily smiling when you think of them.

Yes.
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Do you still get butterflies (like on the eighth date) as you did on the first two dates.
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I don't believe in the term "soulmate" either. There are people we are more compatible with than others, some who have so much in common with us that it seems they are our twins. That doesn't mean however, that they are entirely like us at all. Years into a relationship, we begin to notice the things that differentiate us, the things that make us individuals (as I feel it is always healthy to maintain anyway). I have a very difficult time believing that there are two people identical to each other; the conditions under which an individual human being's personality develops is so random and complex that the odds aren't even acknowledgeable. Then there are those relationships when 2 individuals try to mask their differences to make it seem as though they are "one" or "soulmates"... this is when inner conflict arises and accumulates. I don't think it's healthy to imagine the perfect relationship, because it raises our standards to a level similar to that of winning the jackpot in the lottery. I think we should just learn to acknowledge ourselves within a relationship and outside of it.
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but lisa... i thought you were my soul mate...


oh wait.. we are just "mates... " well get over here and lets mate!!!!


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Oct 12 2006, 07:18 PM
but lisa... i thought you were my soul mate...


oh wait.. we are just "mates... " well get over here and lets mate!!!!

Hahaha.... Good afternoon Anna. :lol: :devil:
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:wub: Tee hee.. Hi Miss. Lisa :)
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back on the important topic of sex (...), I would just like to say that I don't agree with most people who have said sex without love leaves you feeling empty etc. I have never felt like that. I would even dare to say that sometimes it has been more fulfilling because it's just something you do for pleasure, no strings attached, no anxiety, no relationship problems, no stupid excuses. You know.

Was that nasty? You bet.

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back on the important topic of sex (...), I would just like to say that I don't agree with most people who have said sex without love leaves you feeling empty etc. I have never felt like that. I would even dare to say that sometimes it has been more fulfilling because it's just something you do for pleasure, no strings attached, no anxiety, no relationship problems, no stupid excuses. You know.

Was that nasty? You bet.

:lol:

I totally agree! It's very relieving! They say people should be having sex daily to increase their lifespan and decrease the risk of disease and stress-related illnesses. I don't think sex without love is nasty at all, rather very healthy if you are careful and protected. Two people who mutually are willing to pleasure each other for one night then wake up, shake hands and part ways? Jackpot. B)
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back on the important topic of sex (...), I would just like to say that I don't agree with most people who have said sex without love leaves you feeling empty etc. I have never felt like that. I would even dare to say that sometimes it has been more fulfilling because it's just something you do for pleasure, no strings attached, no anxiety, no relationship problems, no stupid excuses. You know.

Was that nasty? You bet.

:lol:

I totally agree! It's very relieving! They say people should be having sex daily to increase their lifespan and decrease the risk of disease and stress-related illnesses. I don't think sex without love is nasty at all, rather very healthy if you are careful and protected. Two people who mutually are willing to pleasure each other for one night then wake up, shake hands and part ways? Jackpot. B)

You guys make it sound so good and yet I know myself well enough that I am just not wired that way. I guess to thine own self be true certainly does apply in this case.

So in the end, I say more power to you if you can handle sex in that manner and not be hurt by it, and if you can`t, be smart enough to recognize that and stick to your guns.
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The good men do more than suck.

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back on the important topic of sex (...), I would just like to say that I don't agree with most people who have said sex without love leaves you feeling empty etc. I have never felt like that. I would even dare to say that sometimes it has been more fulfilling because it's just something you do for pleasure, no strings attached, no anxiety, no relationship problems, no stupid excuses. You know.

Was that nasty? You bet.

:lol:

I totally agree! It's very relieving! They say people should be having sex daily to increase their lifespan and decrease the risk of disease and stress-related illnesses. I don't think sex without love is nasty at all, rather very healthy if you are careful and protected. Two people who mutually are willing to pleasure each other for one night then wake up, shake hands and part ways? Jackpot. B)

You guys make it sound so good and yet I know myself well enough that I am just not wired that way. I guess to thine own self be true certainly does apply in this case.

So in the end, I say more power to you if you can handle sex in that manner and not be hurt by it, and if you can`t, be smart enough to recognize that and stick to your guns.

It's precisely that: to each his own. As I mentioned earlier, everyone has individual needs and there's no universally right or wrong situation. We are all very different. :)
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Seeing as you all seem to know so much about love, I hope you don't mind if I ask for a bit of advice. I've never been in love so I don't know how it feels like. How can you tell if you're in love? I'm going out with someone at the moment and whenever we're together I keep wanting to tell em that I love em. Should I?? Or would it freak em out?? :unsure:

I don't think there's much we can tell you. It's something you have to make up your own mind about. You hear some people say they never even realized they were in love and others say they thought they were in love but weren't. Maybe you should wait to say something until you're sure you are. Fear messes with true feelings a lot.
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Seeing as you all seem to know so much about love, I hope you don't mind if I ask for a bit of advice. I've never been in love so I don't know how it feels like. How can you tell if you're in love? I'm going out with someone at the moment and whenever we're together I keep wanting to tell em that I love em. Should I?? Or would it freak em out?? :unsure:

Do you love them? Don't say it unless you mean it.
Do you spend every spare moment thinking about them? Do you wish you were with the person right now? Do you go weak at the knees at the mention of this person? Does it kill you to imagine life without them?

If you've answered yes to any of these questions, you're in love. If you didn't, that doesn't mean you don't love them. But loving someone goes way deeper than just really liking them.
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I have a friend who is incredibly good looking and well travelled and it's probably safe to say that he has slept with more beautiful women than most guys lie about. But he once confided to me that sex has never been special to him.
I can count the number of women I've been intimate with on the fingers of one hand, but they have only been people I cared about. So who is more experienced than who? It's a question of where your priorities are.


To those who are sceptical on the existence of soulmates, all I can say is don't knock it til you've tried it. Once you've had it, you never go back. I know of what I speak. ;)
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Nice to know that you talk about football before getting down to it. :P :lol:
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Do you still get butterflies (like on the eighth date) as you did on the first two dates.

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back on the important topic of sex (...), I would just like to say that I don't agree with most people who have said sex without love leaves you feeling empty etc. I have never felt like that. I would even dare to say that sometimes it has been more fulfilling because it's just something you do for pleasure, no strings attached, no anxiety, no relationship problems, no stupid excuses. You know.

Was that nasty? You bet.

:lol:

I totally agree! It's very relieving! They say people should be having sex daily to increase their lifespan and decrease the risk of disease and stress-related illnesses. I don't think sex without love is nasty at all, rather very healthy if you are careful and protected. Two people who mutually are willing to pleasure each other for one night then wake up, shake hands and part ways? Jackpot. B)

You guys make it sound so good and yet I know myself well enough that I am just not wired that way. I guess to thine own self be true certainly does apply in this case.

So in the end, I say more power to you if you can handle sex in that manner and not be hurt by it, and if you can`t, be smart enough to recognize that and stick to your guns.

I agree with Betsy here. I have no problem with other people who are able to separate the two, but I can't. I've had sex with 2 people, having only made love with one, and nothing compares with the latter. It's well worth waiting for, I can tell you. It transcends the physical for both of us.
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I realize this could go in the vent section, but .. i'm gonna post it here.. cuz yeah I can :P

There's these people that live on same property as I do, and they tell each other that they love each other every 5 minutes and complete it with a kiss. It was cute for awhile, but now it makes me want to :sick: And when they first started going out, they had sex right away.. I find that.. rather.. well disturbing, it seems like their relationship may be based off of lust. One of them just broke up with her boyfriend, and now has this new relationship that started off with sleeping with the other person.. and now they've gone to telling each other they love each other every f*cking five minutes.. :blink: .. I guess every couple do things differently
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I have a friend who is incredibly good looking and well travelled and it's probably safe to say that he has slept with more beautiful women than most guys lie about. But he once confided to me that sex has never been special to him.
I can count the number of women I've been intimate with on the fingers of one hand, but they have only been people I cared about. So who is more experienced than who? It's a question of where your priorities are.


To those who are sceptical on the existence of soulmates, all I can say is don't knock it til you've tried it. Once you've had it, you never go back. I know of what I speak. ;)

Bill, you and I think so much alike. We must be soul mates. ;)

I'm another person who can count on one hand the number of people I've been intimate with. I wouldn't have it any other way. I can't separate love from sex. I found that out when I was very young and had no fun having sex. Making love is the most wonderful experience in the world.
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I realize this could go in the vent section, but .. i'm gonna post it here.. cuz yeah I can :P

There's these people that live on same property as I do, and they tell each other that they love each other every 5 minutes and complete it with a kiss. It was cute for awhile, but now it makes me want to :sick: ....

I think we all know people like that. :lol:
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Oct 13 2006, 07:29 AM
I have a friend who is incredibly good looking and well travelled and it's probably safe to say that he has slept with more beautiful women than most guys lie about. But he once confided to me that sex has never been special to him.
I can count the number of women I've been intimate with on the fingers of one hand, but they have only been people I cared about. So who is more experienced than who? It's a question of where your priorities are.


To those who are sceptical on the existence of soulmates, all I can say is don't knock it til you've tried it. Once you've had it, you never go back. I know of what I speak.  ;)

Bill, you and I think so much alike. We must be soul mates. ;)

I'm another person who can count on one hand the number of people I've been intimate with. I wouldn't have it any other way. I can't separate love from sex. I found that out when I was very young and had no fun having sex. Making love is the most wonderful experience in the world.

No! He is my soul mate.. :P :D :lol: just kidding. i just had to joke like that.. :P :D :lol: I am same way I don't like just having sex with anyone. I have a person who everyday keeps asking me have sex with him. Even though I like person I don't love him and I won't have sex with him...
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Personally i think girls should have sex with someone if he likes them. Calling Halle Berry , Michelle Pfeiffer and a couple of other now.
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Personally i think girls should have sex with someone if he likes them. Calling Halle Berry , Michelle Pfeiffer and a couple of other now.

personally, I think peter should have sex with me. :P :D :lol:
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well i said i believe in loving friends and actually it was physical love i was thinking of.




come on then let's get to bed me for the third time and onlyy had ten minutes.
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well i said i believe in loving friends and actually it was physical love i was thinking of.




come on then let's get to bed me for the third time and onlyy had ten minutes.

Soon as I get on a plane I will head over to the uk and to your house. But, it won't take ten minutes though
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In response to Anna's opening question, I think that it is perfectly possible for some people to have sex without emotion, but it's something that I cannot do. For me, there is no point in sex without love - love is what makes sex the wonderful experience it is. When I was in my late teens, I had a one night stand and it was absolutely dull, sordid and horrible. It's no exaggeration to say that I felt cheap and dirty afterwards. I regret it, but in a way I don't regret it, because I learned something valuable about myself that day, that I need to make a connection, that there's something about sex that is deeper than just the physical act. Sex without love lacks a point and, as has been stated on this thread, if I have a sexual itch to scratch then I'd rather "love myself" than indulge in sex with a person I don't love.
...and in the end, the love you take is equal to the love you make.
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In response to Anna's opening question, I think that it is perfectly possible for some people to have sex without emotion, but it's something that I cannot do. For me, there is no point in sex without love - love is what makes sex the wonderful experience it is. When I was in my late teens, I had a one night stand and it was absolutely dull, sordid and horrible. It's no exaggeration to say that I felt cheap and dirty afterwards. I regret it, but in a way I don't regret it, because I learned something valuable about myself that day, that I need to make a connection, that there's something about sex that is deeper than just the physical act. Sex without love lacks a point and, as has been stated on this thread, if I have a sexual itch to scratch then I'd rather "love myself" than indulge in sex with a person I don't love.

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I have a friend who is incredibly good looking and well travelled and it's probably safe to say that he has slept with more beautiful women than most guys lie about. But he once confided to me that sex has never been special to him.
I can count the number of women I've been intimate with on the fingers of one hand, but they have only been people I cared about. So who is more experienced than who? It's a question of where your priorities are.

On the other hand, there are plenty of people who only have sex when they are in love, only to have it all end horribly. And there are plenty of people who have hot, sweaty, casual sex without complaint.

We are all similar, but we are not all the same.

Also, does your friend ever travel to New York?
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Been there and done that too. It doesn't change the way I feel. And as I've said, I don't knock casual sex if it works for you. But there's a better kind of good. And many would argue that casual sex is complicated masturbation by comparison.

In any case, I'm not going in to bat for any point of view. There are those who can't understand the attraction of the opposite sex. That doesn't work for me either, but I'm not going to knock it if it makes them happy. Each to their own.
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I've had plenty of wild, NSA sex (usually alcohol-fuelled) and it's safe to say that I've felt like the guy should leave his money on the dresser before he leaves. :blush:

I'm not proud of it, to say the least.

I've been celibate (albeit, not by choice :lol:) for three and a half years now, and believe it or not, I'm used to not getting any.
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I've had plenty of wild, NSA sex (usually alcohol-fuelled) and it's safe to say that I've felt like the guy should leave his money on the dresser before he leaves. :blush:

I'm not proud of it, to say the least.

I've been celibate (albeit, not by choice :lol:) for three and a half years now, and believe it or not, I'm used to not getting any.

Hey, I had sex before when I was drunk too. but, not since my ex left. I don't have sex. and I don't want too.
So, I will just do cyber.sex.. :P :D :lol: :whistle:
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Despite having a very high sex drive, as my friends here can tell you, I was completely celibate (not even kissing anyone) for 2 years til I met the person who was worth it. ^_^
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