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| The Right To Bear Arms; For or against the right to own guns? | |
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| mozart8mytoe | Oct 9 2006, 07:46 AM Post #101 |
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The President of the United States does not have the power to declare war. None ever have.
As I am sure you know, this has been a common game of Congress for many many years. The good news is that regardless of which party is in charge, the other is likely to challenge any new laws they feel they might have a fighting chance against.
The Attorney General can give the President all the advice he wants. That is his job, after all. But neither of them have the power to create law. If Attorney General Gonzales advises President Bush to support Bill's baby eating proposal, the most Bush can do is get some lackey in Congress to write up a bill. If the House of Representatives decides to even discuss the bill, it goes to a House committee. If the committee decides to vote for the bill, it goes before the full House (not that god awful tv show). If the House votes for it, it is given to the Senate. If they decide to consider it, it goes to a Senate committee. If that committee votes for it, it goes before the full Senate. If the full Senate votes for it, then it finally goes to the president's desk. If he signs it, it eventually becomes a law. No President of the United States has never been a one man law making machine. It takes a lot of people to cast a lot of votes before Bill's bill becomes a law. And you can bet someone will consider eating babies unconstitutional and challenge the new law. Yes, it can take years before it reaches the Supreme Court, but it might have already taken years between Bill's original idea and finally enacting the law. It is a slow process, but it has worked fairly well so far. |
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| Deleted User | Oct 9 2006, 10:53 AM Post #102 |
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Well war is declared with the first bullet, the first bomb a piece of paper is not required. How many examples do you want. Personally i prefer substance over style. |
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| Dorfliedot | Oct 9 2006, 11:03 AM Post #103 |
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No, it is easier for someone to kill there spouse. The reason I say this is because, this girl who went to school with my kids had a boyfriend who she was fighting with he went to threaten her with a gun he had the gun went off and killed her. Everyone in apt heard him screams and cry I didn't mean to shot you... Guns are bad. |
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| Bill | Oct 9 2006, 12:42 PM Post #104 |
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None have ever had the power, or none have ever delcared war? "Declare," being the operative word.
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| maccascruff | Oct 9 2006, 02:24 PM Post #105 |
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The Constitution gives Congress the authority alone to formally declare war. In the case of Iraq, both the House and Senate voted to give Bush the authority to use force, as I recall. Congress has not issued a formal declaration of war since WWII. The president of the United States has no clear constitutional authority to declare war. |
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| JeffLynnesBeard | Oct 9 2006, 05:43 PM Post #106 |
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Boy, 13, Opens Fire With An AK-47 In School This was a very close call. Why did this 13 year old boy have access to an AK-47?
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| BikerLikeAnIcon | Oct 9 2006, 06:07 PM Post #107 |
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Really good question Andy! |
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| mozart8mytoe | Oct 11 2006, 08:09 AM Post #108 |
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In that case, the soldiers and their commanding officers declare war. That is entirely too much power for a 19 year old to have. Fortunately, that is not at all true and we have a Constitution which clearly defines who can declare war.
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What Linda said. No president has ever declared war, primarily because they cannot. President Roosevelt was the last to ask Congress to declare war on anyone, after that date which will live in infamy. After that all of our wars took place during the Cold War and we did not declare war on anyone because that would invite the Soviets to the party. Neither side really wanted that. If "declare" war is semantics, we should keep in mind that even all of these "police actions", "peace keeping missions" and "liberations" were done with the permission of Congress. The current liberating police action may not be very popular, but it was done with the approval of Congress, as constitutionally required.
I did not read the story so I have no idea what state this boy was in, but I would imagine it was illegal for him to have any access to this type of weapon. The Constitution grants US citizens the right to bear arms, but many courts in many states have already imposed serious restrictions on machine guns. The debate is whether or not people should have the right to bear arms, but I think everyone, regardless of what side they are on, would agree that no child has the right to bring assault rifles to school. I would imagine all US schools already have rules against that sort of thing. |
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| maccascruff | Oct 11 2006, 02:25 PM Post #109 |
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I cannot imagine that it is legal for a 13 year old to have an assault rifle and I am positive that all schools have rules against this. Obviously, this kid didn't care about rules. He was crying out for help as he said "please don't make me do this". Why didn't his parents have a clue that he was in trouble and where did he get the gun? That does sound like Columbine. The killers' parents said they knew nothing of their childrens' problems. |
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| Bill | Oct 11 2006, 02:30 PM Post #110 |
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http://movies.crooksandliars.com/Colbert-GunsInSchools.wmv |
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| Deleted User | Oct 12 2006, 10:56 PM Post #111 |
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Cambodia ummm can't remember Congress debating that one before it happened. |
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| JeffLynnesBeard | Oct 18 2006, 08:45 AM Post #112 |
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I guess we know which side Andre 3000 from Outkast is on... Andre 3000: 'I Always Carry a Gun' Outkast's Andre 3000 always carries a gun with him because he would rather protect himself than be surrounded by bodyguards. The rapper -- real name Andre Benjamin -- insists carrying a firearm is a necessary precaution, and he intends to buy his 9-year-old son Steven a gun when he's old enough. He says, "Of course I carry a gun. I don't advertise the fact, but I need to have a gun with me at all times. I don't see what's wrong with that. "To me it makes sense. I don't like to have bodyguards with me. I don't have them in my house, so I've got to have something to protect myself with. "If I am with my son I am even more concerned to protect myself and protect him with a gun. I would want my son to have a gun when he gets older. It's just something you've got to have if you want to live and be safe." That's a great example to set for his many impressionable fans.
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| Bill | Oct 18 2006, 12:58 PM Post #113 |
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Sorry buddy, you just did. |
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| Deleted User | Oct 18 2006, 01:17 PM Post #114 |
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HAHA! I thought the same thing! |
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