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The new worlds; Now 12 Planets
Topic Started: Aug 19 2006, 09:05 AM (419 Views)
doris mendlovitz
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You know it is the one thing that is really big news is this one discovery.I know with everything else in the news today the biggest news is played down. New Planets our solar system has twelve. It think it is great news.Why are people playing it down so.
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The problem with that is, if Charon which orbits Pluto is classed as a planet, then The Moon, Io, Europa, Ganymede, Callisto, Mimas, Enceladus, Tethys, Dione, Rhea, Titan, Iapetus, Miranda, Ariel, Umbriel, Titania, Oberon, Proteus and Triton should all be considered planets because they are all bigger then Charon, and like Charon they orbit a real planet.

It could all get rather messy.
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I think they should leave it as ir is
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Do they have any plans to re-name the rings around......uranus??? :P
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waitingforatrim
Aug 19 2006, 07:48 AM
Do they have any plans to re-name the rings around......uranus??? :P

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I think those are called ASStroids. ;)
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Aug 19 2006, 05:12 PM
I think those are called ASStroids. ;)

Do we have any plans to visit there any time soon?

Should we name the space ship "Suppository"? :blush:
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waitingforatrim
Aug 19 2006, 05:26 PM
ogoble
Aug 19 2006, 05:12 PM
I think those are called ASStroids.  ;)

Do we have any plans to visit there any time soon?

Should we name the space ship "Suppository"? :blush:

No doubt it would be piloted by Captain Proctologist.
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Aug 19 2006, 05:39 PM
waitingforatrim
Aug 19 2006, 05:26 PM
ogoble
Aug 19 2006, 05:12 PM
I think those are called ASStroids.  ;)

Do we have any plans to visit there any time soon?

Should we name the space ship "Suppository"? :blush:

No doubt it would be piloted by Captain Proctologist.

And instead of dealing with tribbles, we'd have dingleberries to contend with! :blink:
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Aug 19 2006, 12:03 PM
I think they should leave it as ir is

I disagree with leaving things as they are if they're incorrect - just because we've got used to it doesn't mean that we should be scientifically lazy and not bother correcting mistakes. It has been suggested that Pluto may be stripped of it's official title of 'planet' for numerous reasons - believing in science means never standing still and challenging all our pre (or mis-)conceptions and beliefs, if needs be.

I'm sure people didn't want to hear it when they found out that the earth wasn't flat and didn't balance on the back of giant turtle either. ^_^ ;)
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The world isn't flat?

Seriously I got to agree with you, just hate to see Pluto become just a chunk of who knows what.
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doris mendlovitz
Aug 19 2006, 09:05 AM
You know it is the one thing that is really big news is this one discovery.I know with everything else in the news today the biggest news is played down. New Planets our solar system has twelve. It think it is great news.Why are people playing it down so.
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Too busy with internet porn. :o
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JeffLynnesBeard
Aug 20 2006, 06:49 PM
Flickering Ember
Aug 19 2006, 12:03 PM
I think they should leave it as ir is

I disagree with leaving things as they are if they're incorrect - just because we've got used to it doesn't mean that we should be scientifically lazy and not bother correcting mistakes. It has been suggested that Pluto may be stripped of it's official title of 'planet' for numerous reasons - believing in science means never standing still and challenging all our pre (or mis-)conceptions and beliefs, if needs be.

I'm sure people didn't want to hear it when they found out that the earth wasn't flat and didn't balance on the back of giant turtle either. ^_^ ;)

While it's true that Pluto is a but iffy as planets go, I don't have a problem with its status as a planet, because it is a lone body orbiting a star, which is what planets are. The moons of Mars are relatively minor bodies too, but the orbit a planet, and that's what makes something a moon. Planets orbit stars. Moons orbit planets.

Your first point, I fully agree with. You see, it's not a question of leaving it how it is, but discovering more about how it is. This is the way it has always been, it's just that we keep learning new things about the way it has always been.
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Memo: To Pluto

From: The Solar System

Subject: Demotion to dwarf planet status.

Dear Pluto:

Whew. This is a tough one. First, I just want you to know that we all feel terrible about this. I think I speak for us all -- Mars, Venus, the whole gang -- when I say you've been like a sun to us. Seriously.

Look, I can't say this is fair. It isn't. Downsizing is just a fact of life these days. It's universal. One minute you're on the "Children's Guide to the Solar System," and the next you're a black hole. Who knows how they make these calls at headquarters?

I do have to say, in all honesty, that there were some problems. A lot of it was just image stuff. We've talked about this before. Like, what makes Mercury so hot anyhow? It is hard to fight perceptions like that.

And, to be brutally honest, you probably could have done a better job with your presentation. There were times when you were seen as distant, aloof, even cold. Nobody saw you much. We ran in the same circles for years and years, but I don't think anybody really got to know you. It wasn't just your "eccentric orbit," you know. There were plenty of whispers that you were "way out there," or "too spacey."

As for the jokes, well, I don't think there was much you could do about that. "Hey look, isn't that Pluto? Out by Uranus?" How many times did we hear that one? No matter how many times we explained that Neptune is the planet next to you, it didn't matter. Sophomoric humor is a force that transcends astrophysics.

At the end of the day, I think we all realize that what it really comes down to is Earth. (I know, who made them the center of the universe?) Earth, with its big, gassy atmosphere and all those peeping pointy-headed scientists with their telescopes.

They act like they created planets. Hello? Big Bang? Ten billion years ago? Frankly, I don't get it. First they name us, then they take it away. For seventy-some years you were a planet. Now you're a "dwarf planet." What's next, changing your name to "Dopey"?

But there was a time, eh, when you were a star. Back in the 1930s, you were mysterious and theoretical. Astronomers on Earth stayed up nights thinking about you. They'd hang around the observatory, just hoping to catch a glimpse of you on a night when you were out with Neptune.

Remember the excitement when they finally saw you? There was all the talk about what your name should be. The New York Times got involved, suggesting Minerva, which sounds like a name for a new kitchen range. And then, an 11-year-old girl from England, Venetia Phair, suggested Pluto, and it stuck. (Personally, I'd say if anyone needed a new name it was Venetia Phair, but that's probably just solar snark.)

And all right, as it turned out, Pluto was probably not the most awe-inspiring choice. Jupiter gets to be the giant of the skies, and you turn out to be Mickey Mouse's dog. A bad break, no doubt about it.

Still, there was a window of opportunity there, a chance to make a name for yourself. And I'll be honest, you didn't do much to help matters. It seemed you were never available for photographs. And you projected a chilly, frigid atmosphere. It wasn't inviting, frankly.

The more they got to know you, the more there were doubts. They said you lacked "gravitas." The whisper campaign began. You were smaller than seven moons in the solar system, even -- and this was a killer -- Earth's moon.

I don't have to tell you how it all unraveled from there. There was sniping about your "oblong orbit." (Hey, we all accept the orbit we're given. It's a universal law.) A low point had to be when that big ball of ice, UB313, was put up for planethood in 2003. Hey, it's a solar system, not a Little League team. Not everybody gets to play, OK?

Yanking your planet status is a blow, no doubt about it. More than anything, I suppose, it is embarrassing. But you'll get over it. The sun will come up again in another 162 hours, just like always.

The good news is, you still have a chance to shine. Earth scientists say they are going ahead with the $700 million New Horizons spacecraft flyby. It is expected to pass you on July 14, 2015.

We're all pulling for you when that happens. We know that when they see you up close and in person they will understand that you are not some dwarf, or a "minor planet," but a key part of the solar system. We'd just say that you should always remember who you are and what we think of you.

You rock!

Taken from http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?...ING2AKPFQ81.DTL
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BeatleBarb
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That was very clever!

Poor, Pluto.
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scottycatt
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Icy dwarf, indeed. :( :(


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