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The Clintons are gay!; it must be true.....
Topic Started: Aug 9 2006, 06:18 AM (666 Views)
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I don't usually start threads about American (ahem) pundits, but I just couldn't let this one go.

In an interview last week, Ann Coulter said that rampant promiscuity, of the kind that Bill Clinton indulges in, is a sign of laten homosexuality. Yes Ann, of course it is!

The she followed it up by asking herself a rhetorical question about Hillary and responding to herself by saying it's an even bet that Hillary will come out as a lesbian in 2008.

I won't dignify her comments with a rational response. Instead, I will just say this,

If I were a "woman" with a square jaw and an Adam's-apple, I wouldn't be casting aspersions on anyone else's sexual identity! :D
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I knew it!
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And Al Gore is a "total fag" according to Ann.

She must really be on a roll. :)
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ummm interesting wondering will i see this anywhere else.


historically you know it's a tactic that has always been used to discredit someone.
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Aug 9 2006, 06:26 AM
And Al Gore is a "total fag" according to Ann.

She must really be on a roll. :)

The very thing that might get Ann off that 'roll' she seems to be on is if maybe she got her own salad tossed a little bit.
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Rolling a fag? :D

I just love the rationale. Bill is a latent homosexual because of his rampant heterosexual promiscuity. And Hillary is a lesbian because..... I don't know... I guess because Coulter says she is.

Amateur psychologist, analyse thyself!
We know that people who are gay are usually the first to spot gayness among others. Takes one to know one and all that. So maybe this is Ann's attempt at coming out herself.
Admit it Ann, you're either a drag queen, a tranny or a dyke. It's probably why you're so angry! :P
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Aug 9 2006, 05:46 PM
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Aug 9 2006, 06:26 AM
And Al Gore is a "total fag" according to Ann.

She must really be on a roll. :)

The very thing that might get Ann off that 'roll' she seems to be on is if maybe she got her own salad tossed a little bit.

She should call her next book "Sexless" - in more ways than one! :D
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i'll plead the fourth the fifth or whatever i aint saying nothing.
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Which Clintons are we talking about
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She can sling it, can't she? I dislike her almost as much as I dislike Al Franken. They both do the same thing, just on opposite sides of the fence.
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Coulter really does sling it and, most of the time, I find her repulsive. I also wouldn't care if the Clintons were gay, but her theory about it doesn't hold water.
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Aug 9 2006, 10:21 AM
Coulter really does sling it and, most of the time, I find her repulsive. I also wouldn't care if the Clintons were gay, but her theory about it doesn't hold water.

I couldn't care less about the Clintons' sexuality. That's got nothing to do with why I don't care for them. ;)
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Aug 10 2006, 12:15 AM
She can sling it, can't she? I dislike her almost as much as I dislike Al Franken. They both do the same thing, just on opposite sides of the fence.

Aw c'mon Beep. Al's genuinely funny, well informed and when he supports a cause he doesn't just mouth off about it. I figured you wouldn't agree with his politics, but I don't find anything particularly dislikable about him.
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Aug 9 2006, 11:06 AM
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Aug 10 2006, 12:15 AM
She can sling it, can't she? I dislike her almost as much as I dislike Al Franken. They both do the same thing, just on opposite sides of the fence.

Aw c'mon Beep. Al's genuinely funny, well informed and when he supports a cause he doesn't just mouth off about it. I figured you wouldn't agree with his politics, but I don't find anything particularly dislikable about him.

He can be funny, but I do think his vitreol is as bad as Coulter's.
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Aug 9 2006, 08:22 AM
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I think she looks like a cross between John Kerry and Frankenstein.
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Aug 10 2006, 01:10 AM
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Aug 9 2006, 11:06 AM
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Aug 10 2006, 12:15 AM
She can sling it, can't she? I dislike her almost as much as I dislike Al Franken. They both do the same thing, just on opposite sides of the fence.

Aw c'mon Beep. Al's genuinely funny, well informed and when he supports a cause he doesn't just mouth off about it. I figured you wouldn't agree with his politics, but I don't find anything particularly dislikable about him.

He can be funny, but I do think his vitreol is as bad as Coulter's.

I can't agree with that. He can go OTT sometimes, but I think the difference is that he makes it clear when he's going OTT and that he doesn't really think people ough to be executed or whatever, and also, being outrageous is not his only trick.

Just my not-so-humble opinion. :)

Barb, you beat me to suggesting she looks like John Kerry! :lol: I think you're onto something with Frankenstein. Maybe when there's a full moon, John Kerry turns into Ann Coulter. :D
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I'm going to see Bill Maher on Sunday. Now, that is one funny guy, whether you agree with him or not.

Bill, I'm liking the full moon/Kerry/Coulter theory.
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Aug 10 2006, 12:15 AM
She can sling it, can't she? I dislike her almost as much as I dislike Al Franken. They both do the same thing, just on opposite sides of the fence.

Aw c'mon Beep. Al's genuinely funny, well informed and when he supports a cause he doesn't just mouth off about it. I figured you wouldn't agree with his politics, but I don't find anything particularly dislikable about him.

He can be funny, but I do think his vitreol is as bad as Coulter's.

I can't agree with that. He can go OTT sometimes, but I think the difference is that he makes it clear when he's going OTT and that he doesn't really think people ough to be executed or whatever, and also, being outrageous is not his only trick.

Just my not-so-humble opinion. :)

Barb, you beat me to suggesting she looks like John Kerry! :lol: I think you're onto something with Frankenstein. Maybe when there's a full moon, John Kerry turns into Ann Coulter. :D

I don't agree with you, but what about Michael Moore then? Would you agree he spews vile sh*t about conservatives? Sure there's some truth to some of what he says, but there is to Ann Coulter's as well.
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Ann Coulter frightens me...her looks, what she says and most of all that people actually listen to her, and buy her books. THAT is scary!

I used to listen to Al Frankin, as well as Mike Malloy and whoever else was on liberal radio programming. Admittedly they can get just as fanatic for their causes as Rush and Sean Hannity. To me they are all in it for the money first and foremost, but some do believe in what they are saying.

I finally figured out that I don't need a talking head on the radio to listen to and follow blindly, I can make up my own mind and don't need to be a sheep for either side.

If anyone honestly believes that the Clinton's are gay, then they truly are clueless and haven't too many braincells!


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Aug 9 2006, 08:37 AM
I'm going to see Bill Maher on Sunday. Now, that is one funny guy, whether you agree with him or not.

Bill, I'm liking the full moon/Kerry/Coulter theory.

Barb, interesting you should mention Bill Maher. He loves Ann Coulter. He has her on his show at least 2x a year. She used to be good, in that she wasn't ranting and raving, but now that is what she does. She no longer listens and is highly opinionated on everything whether she knows what she is talking about or not.
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Aug 9 2006, 04:29 AM
i'll plead the fourth the fifth or whatever i aint saying nothing.

I'm afraid that you're only aloud to plead the 5th of you live in the U.S., Sorry Peter!
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I've seen Bill Maher twice, Barb. He is absolutely hilarious. He calls them like he sees them.
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Aug 10 2006, 12:38 AM
I've seen Bill Maher twice, Barb. He is absolutely hilarious. He calls them like he sees them.

I hope he's good in person. I also loved seeing Michael Moore in person...he was absolutely entertaining and right on! He can go overboard when he doesn't have to, but I agree with him for the most part.
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Aug 10 2006, 04:42 AM

I don't agree with you, but what about Michael Moore then? Would you agree he spews vile sh*t about conservatives? Sure there's some truth to some of what he says, but there is to Ann Coulter's as well.

I can't agree with that either. I'm the first to say that Moore cheapens his own message with the way he hammers it home, but I don't see any comparison with Coulter for two main reasons: 1) Moore doesn't constantly fantasise about his political opponants being murdered, and 2) when he rails against conservatives, it's because of what they do - not just the mere fact that they are conservatives. You can always see the point that Moore is making and either agree or disagree. Coulter's anit-liberal crusade is just plain bizarre and contains no testable theories. For instance, when she was asked a genuine question about what makes Hillary Clinton a liberal (the question was actually with regard to Clinton's policies), Coulter's answer was, "Only her psychiatrist could tell you that." If she had followed the throwaway line up with an actual answer, that would have been fair enough, but she didn't. As far as I can work out, her position is pure bile.
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Bill that is a prime example of what I meant by her being opinionated and not knowing what she is talking about. :devil:
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Anyone remember Spiro Agnew? The man whose name is an anagram of "Grow A Penis"?

I wonder what Ms Coulter would make of that! :lol:
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I have never kept secret my disgust for any of those partisan television and internet hacks who drone on about how pure their side is and how evil the other side is. None of them seem to have any objectivity whatsoever, and they are all far too delusional, if you ask me. They are all about self-promotion and entertainment. They have nothing to do with informed political discourse.

Al Franken can be funny sometimes, but often he just comes off as arrogant.

In his books, Michael Moore can be hilarious, but on film he seems too hostile. His Charlton Heston ambush was a major turnoff.

Ann Coulter is a New Yorker, so I want to like her, but she goes out of her way to make people hate her. She is proud of that, and it sells books, so maybe she should be. Even if you discount the charges of plagiarism and illegal voter registration as a political tactic, she is just too hateful.

I recently read Godless: The Church Of Liberalism. If you take out the religious superiority complex, there is nothing left but anger and hatred. "I'm a Christian first and a mean-spirited, bigoted conservative second." I am no expert, but are Christians supposed to be mean-spirited bigots? After a few pages, the hatred, racism, and misogyny (from a woman) is just too much. And as someone (probably Bill) pointed out, she is unable to name a single liberal who actually adheres to her view of what a liberal is.


The Wisdom of Ann Coulter:

"[Learning disabilities] are a cover for rich parents with dumb kids." - August 16, 2004.

"I think [women] should be armed but should not vote. Women have no capacity to understand how money is earned." - February 26, 2001.

"It would be a much better country if women did not vote. That is simply a fact." - May 17, 2003.

"I think the other point that no one is making about the abuse photos is just the disproportionate number of women involved, including a girl general running the entire operation. I mean, this is lesson, you know, number 1,000,047 on why women shouldn't be in the military." - May 5, 2004.

"My only regret with Timothy McVeigh is he did not go to the New York Times building." - August 26, 2002.

"We should convert them [Muslims] to Christianity." - September 12, 2001.

"When we were fighting communism, ok, they had mass murderers and gulags, but they were white men and they were sane. Now we're up against absolutely insane savages." - August 16, 2004.

"Press passes can't be that hard to come by if the White House allows that old Arab Helen Thomas to sit within yards of the president." - February 23, 2005.

"I think our motto should be, post-9-11, 'Raghead talks tough, raghead faces consequences.'" - February 10, 2006.

"Bumper sticker idea for liberals: News magazines don't kill people, Muslims do." - May 18, 2005.

"I think the government should be spying on all Arabs, engaging in torture as a televised spectator sport, dropping daisy cutters wantonly throughout the Middle East, and sending liberals to Guantanamo." - December 21, 2005

"Being nice to people is, in fact, one of the incidental tenets of Christianity, as opposed to other religions whose tenets are more along the lines of 'kill everyone who doesn't smell bad and doesn't answer to the name Mohammed'". - March 4, 2004.

"The Episcopals don't demand much in the way of actual religious belief. They have girl priests, gay priests, gay bishops, gay marriages. It's much like The New York Times editorial board." - January 7, 2004.

"God said, 'Earth is yours. Take it. Rape it. It's yours.'" - June 20, 2001.

"There are a lot of bad Republicans. There are no good Democrats." - August 11, 2002.

"The Democrats are giving aid and comfort to the enemy for no purpose other than giving aid and comfort to the enemy. There is no plausible explanation for the Democrats' behavior other than that they long to see U.S. troops shot, humiliated, and driven from the field of battle." - November 23, 2005.

"Here at the Spawn of Satan convention in Boston [Democratic National Convention], conservatives are deploying a series of covert signals to identify one another, much like gay men do." - July 26, 2004.

"Frankly, I'm not a big fan of the First Amendment." - October 20, 2005.


Michael Moore:

"No, Mr. Bush, you just stay the course. It's not your fault that 30% of New Orleans lives in poverty or that tens of thousands had no transportation to get out of town. Come on, they're black. I mean, it's not like this happened to Kennebunkport. Can you imagine leaving white people on their roofs for five days? Don't make me laugh. Race has nothing to do with this." – On Hurricane Katrina.

"We live in the time where we have fictitious election results that elects a fictitious president. We live in a time where we have a man sending us to war for fictitious reasons. Whether it's the fictition of duct tape or fictition of orange alerts. We are against this war, Mr. Bush. Shame on you, Mr. Bush, shame on you. And any time you got the Pope and the Dixie Chicks against you, your time is up. Thank you very much." – March 23, 2003.

"George Orwell once wrote: And it's not a matter of whether the war is not real or if it is. Victory is not possible. The war is not meant to be won, it is meant to be continuous. Hierarchical society is only possible on the basis of poverty and ignorance. This new version is the past and no different past can ever have existed. In principle the war effort is always planned to keep society on the brink of starvation. The war is waged by the ruling group against its own subjects and its object is not the victory over either Eurasia or East Asia but to keep the very structure of society intact." - Fahrenheit 9/11.

"Early talk was that anti-Bush people would go see it [Fahrenheit 9/11] and pro-Bush people would stay home, and that's not the case. Most people do not go around with labels. A lot of Republicans have open minds." - June 27, 2004.


Al Franken:

"The biases the media has are much bigger than conservative or liberal. They're about getting ratings, about making money, about doing stories that are easy to cover." - Lies And The Lying Liars Who Tell Them.

"And by the way, a few months ago I trademarked the word 'funny.' So when Fox calls me 'unfunny,' they're violating my trademark. I am seriously considering a countersuit." – September 3, 2003.

"As Rush Limbaugh said, anyone who uses drugs illegally should be prosecuted and put away. I don't agree with him. I think they should be treated, but that's what Rush believes and so, we're praying for Rush because he's in recovery and you take responsibilities for your actions, so I'm sure any day now Rush will demand to be put away for the maximum sentence and ask for the most dangerous prison. And we'll be praying for maybe an African American cellmate who saw the Donovan McNabb comments on ESPN. So we're praying." – October 20, 2003.

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Aug 10 2006, 07:23 PM

In his books, Michael Moore can be hilarious, but on film he seems too hostile.  His Charlton Heston ambush was a major turnoff.

I fully agree. Moore's first film, Roger and Me, was all about him travelling the country and not getting the scoop. He tried to do the same thing in Bowling...., only Heston called his bluff and actually gave him the interview. It was obvious that Moore was spoiling for a walkout from the beginning - not easy when the location is the interviewee's own home. It was a shameful ending to what was otherwise a pretty good film.


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Aug 10 2006, 07:23 PM

And as someone (probably Bill) pointed out, she is unable to name a single liberal who actually adheres to her view of what a liberal is.

It wasn't me, it was someone called Donny Duetsch, I think. You can see the interview HERE. (Yes, it is a leftie blog - I'm sorry).



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"Press passes can't be that hard to come by if the White House allows that old Arab Helen Thomas to sit within yards of the president." - February 23, 2005.

If she had referred to male prostitutes instead of Helen Thomas, she would have been spot on.



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"The biases the media has are much bigger than conservative or liberal. They're about getting ratings, about making money, about doing stories that are easy to cover."

Completely true.



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"Mistakes are a part of being human. Appreciate your mistakes for what they are: precious life lessons that can only be learned the hard way. Unless it's a fatal mistake, which, at least, others can learn from."

Harsh, but true. It's the corollary of the old saying, "Some people learn from others people's mistakes. The rest of us have to be those other people."
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Moz's post sums it up nicely for me. Like I've said. They're ALL capable of hate-filled rhetoric. From Michelle Malkin to Jeanine Garofalo. From Bill Maher to Bill O'Reilly. From Michael Medved to Michael Moore. I think they all should have their plugs pulled.
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This technically should go in the "Great Quotes" thread, but I find it rather apropos to what we're discussing here.

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Thanks for doing all that, Lissa. I think it really highlights the differences between the people being discussed. Ann Coulter, she's just evil.

By the way... Although I think Michael Moore can be a bit narrow-minded and humorless and I'm sure he could have handled the Charlton Heston situation better, I don't really agree with the people who say he should have avoided a confrontation altogether because Heston suffers from Alzheimer's. I think if you're well enough to speak that way at an NRA meeting, you're fair game for criticism.
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Aug 10 2006, 05:11 PM
I don't really agree with the people who say he should have avoided a confrontation altogether because Heston suffers from Alzheimer's. I think if you're well enough to speak that way at an NRA meeting, you're fair game for criticism.

Charlton Heston is a fair target. Any public figure who so openly supports an overtly political agenda is a fair target. But what Michael Moore did was reprehensible at worst and just plain ugly at best.
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Janeane Garofalo and Dennis Miller are comedians and they know it. While Al Franken certainly has a comedy background, I think he sometimes forgets that. The problem with the rest of them is that they seem to think they are political gurus and not the entertainers that they really are.
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EEK, she scares me!!! But I also am not an Al Franken fan, except when he was on SNL with his parter Tom (can't remember his last name at the moment). I'm liberal minded, but he doesn't get me going.
I do like Bill Maher though, he is hysterical.
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Alzheimers isn't necessarily a barrier to doing worthwhile things with your life. Just look at Ronald Regan's presidency.

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Aug 14 2006, 03:28 AM
Tom Davis.

That's it, thanks.

*off topic*
I remember a show hosted by Tom Davis on Sci Fi (or was it USA Network) called Trailer Park. They showed trailers from old movies from the 40s to the early 70s. Very bad movies too. :P
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Slightly on topic as I saw this on the Daily Telegraph's website:
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Aug 9 2006, 06:26 AM
And Al Gore is a "total fag" according to Ann.

She must really be on a roll. :)

The very thing that might get Ann off that 'roll' she seems to be on is if maybe she got her own salad tossed a little bit.

She should call her next book "Sexless" - in more ways than one! :D

"Sexless" is what I figure the Clinton's marriage is.
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