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| The Great Pizza War; Deep Dish or Thin Crust | |
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| Tweet Topic Started: Jul 31 2006, 03:13 AM (874 Views) | |
| tinybubbleca | Jul 31 2006, 03:13 AM Post #1 |
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I was watching this thing on tv today that was making me soo hungry.. tee hee.. it was which was better.. Chicago style or New York Style pizza I've always thought it was interesting when cities claim to have the best pizza cos it's 'unique' to them, like the New Yorker or the Chicago Deep Dish, etc. Which one do you prefer? |
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| tinybubbleca | Jul 31 2006, 03:15 AM Post #2 |
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![]() Chicago Style DEEP DISH! or ![]() New York Pizza |
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| ogoble | Jul 31 2006, 03:20 AM Post #3 |
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Deep Dish
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| Rose | Jul 31 2006, 03:30 AM Post #4 |
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Well, here's another clue for you all, the Walrus was Paul...
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I voted for Chicago Style Deep Dish...YUMMY!
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| fab4fan | Jul 31 2006, 03:40 AM Post #5 |
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As a Chicagoan I abstained. My vote would be the Chicago thin crust. I don't care for the neopolitan thin crust, I like the chunk sausage. p.s. Freshman year in college I came home every weekend to work at my family's pizzeria. At school, even though I had pizza all three shifts on the weekend, I still earned 4 free pizzas from a place by school for turning in 20 coupons. I LOVE PIZZA! |
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| Peter | Jul 31 2006, 03:45 AM Post #6 |
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bollocks remember all the good noses in the world are |
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| Merry | Jul 31 2006, 04:51 AM Post #7 |
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I don't eat pizza very often, but my favorite is definitely the Chicago Deep Dish! Back in the early '90's a girlfriend and I went to the Monkeefest that was being held in downtown Chicago, and we found a very nice Italian restaurant (with celebrity photos and endorsements hung on the walls) that had deep dish pizza, and it was love at first bite! :lol: They aren't that easy to find around here unless you go to Pizza Hut, but to me they're the best, and sure beat the thin pizzas that are about as tasty as the boxes they come in! Merry |
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| JeffLynnesBeard | Jul 31 2006, 05:38 AM Post #8 |
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I like them both although the thin crust "New Yorker" is my preference... but I could have sworn that pizzas are Italian and not American. I'm sure the origins run deeper than New York & Chicago. Oh well.
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| Merry | Jul 31 2006, 05:41 AM Post #9 |
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I think we've "Americanized" them, Andy!
Then again, maybe some terrific Italian cooks living in Chicago came up with the "deep dish" concept. I'm positive the originals were made with the thinner crusts, though. Merry |
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| JeffLynnesBeard | Jul 31 2006, 05:59 AM Post #10 |
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Well, it's possible that certain styles of pizza originated in the states - after all, the great Chinese dish "Chow Mein" originated in the U.S.
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| JeffLynnesBeard | Jul 31 2006, 06:03 AM Post #11 |
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Checking my usual reliable source of information, Wikipedia, I can indeed confirm that the 'thin crust' style originated in Italy and is known as the 'Roman Pizza', whereas the deep pan Pizza did indeed originate in Chicago. So, in essence, we're both right!
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| theonlyfab4fan | Jul 31 2006, 06:11 AM Post #12 |
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If you do even further research you will find that thick crust (which isn`t the same as deep dish) originated in Sicily. I like deep dish with a thinner crust. Or if I have thin crust, I want it to be really crispy, not rubbery and chewy. |
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You say you want to save humanity but it`s people that you just can`t stand John came to me in a dream and this is what he said. "I had a vision of a man on a flaming pie, and he told me that Betsy with a B not Lisa with a L is the biggest fan of mine". John trumps 'the boss' ! I WAS ROBBED BY THAT DEVIL WOMAN | |
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| mozart8mytoe | Jul 31 2006, 10:35 AM Post #13 |
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I am from New York. Need I say more? New York has the best pizza in the world. This is not my opinion. This is a scientific fact. Number two through five would be Amsterdam/Haarlem, Alkmaar, Vienna, Paris (at least around Montaigne). All of which are (or should be) "thin crust". As for "chow mein", what we in the US (and possibly in England for all I know) call chow mein is very much not the same as what the Chinese call chow mein. In Chinese countries, it simply means fried noodles and can be prepared a million different ways. Also, they pronounce it differently and write it with Chinese characters (for some reason). |
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| HGentile | Jul 31 2006, 11:32 AM Post #14 |
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I agree, thin and crispy is my fav. |
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| Deleted User | Jul 31 2006, 01:08 PM Post #15 |
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Pizza as most of us know it is an American dish. Veterans from WWII brought back the idea of pizza after touring Italy. Italian pizza was a very spartan dish with usually only sauce and cheese. We, as Americans, perfected it.
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| modgirl1964 | Jul 31 2006, 01:09 PM Post #16 |
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There's only one type of pizza that's worth eating and it comes from a little pizzaria somewhere in NYC or New Jersey, with that lovely thin crust, dash of rosemary here, oregano there, cheese melted just right that when you pick it up there's still extras hanging off, and just a hint of grease dripping onto your paper plate. Oh how I miss those pizzas....want one of those, a hot dog from a street vendor in the city and a preztle from that vendor...... Damn I'm homesick now!! |
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| Deleted User | Jul 31 2006, 01:13 PM Post #17 |
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My research slightly differs, Andy. From inmamaskitchen.com: Pizza History By Cliff Lowe Pizza, like so many other foods, did not originate in the country for which it is now famous. Unless you have researched the subject, you, like so many people, probably always thought Pizza was strictly an Italian creation. The foundations for Pizza were originally laid by the early Greeks who first baked large, round and flat breads which they topped with various items such as olive oils, spices, potatoes and other things. Tomatoes were not discovered at that time or, very likely, they would have used them as we do today. The acceptance of the tomato by the Neapolitans and the visit of a queen contributed to the Pizza as we know and enjoy it today. In about 1889, Queen Margherita, accompanied by her husband, Umberto I, took an inspection tour of her Italian Kingdom. During her travels around Italy she saw many people, especially the peasants, eating this large, flat bread. Curious, the queen ordered her guards to bring her one of these Pizza breads. The Queen loved the bread and would eat it every time she was out amongst the people, which caused some consternation in Court circles. It was not seemly for a Queen to dine on peasant's food. Never the less, the queen loved the bread and decided to take matters into her own hands. Summoning Chef Rafaelle Esposito from his pizzeria to the royal palace, the queen ordered him to bake a selection of pizzas for her pleasure. To honor the queen who was so beloved by her subjects, Rafaelle decided to make a very special pizza just for her. He baked a Pizza topped with tomatoes, Mozarella Cheese, and fresh Basil (to represent the colors of the Italian flag: Red, white, and green). This became Queen Margherita's favorite pizza and when word got out that this was one of the queen's favorite foods, she became even more popular with the Italian people. She also started a culinary tradition, the Pizza Margherita, which lasts to this very day in Naples and has now spread throughout the world. History has not made it clear whether Rafaelle began to sell this creation from his own pizzeria but it is known that the Pizza, in much the same form as we now know it, was thereafter enjoyed by all the Italian people. Variations began to be made in different parts of the country. In Bologna, for example, meat began to be added into the topping mix. Neapolitan Pizza became quite popular and it brought garlic and crumbly Neapolitan cheeses into the mixture as well as herbs, fresh vegetables, and other spices and flavorings. About this time the idea of baking in special brick ovens came into existence and the bread, as it is today, was a rather simple combination of flour, oil, salt and yeast. Pizza spread to America, France, England and Spain, where it was little known until after World War II. While occupying Italian territories, many American and European soldiers tasted Pizza for the first time. It was love at first taste! Italian immigrants had been selling Pizzas in their American stores for some time, but it was the returning soldiers with a lust for the saucy delight that drew the Pizzas out of the quiet Italian neighborhoods into the main stream of city life all over the continent. In fact, the square "Sicilian Pizza" which is so popular and was the forerunner of the now well-promoted "Party Pizza" is an American invention. Real Sicilian Pizza has no cheese or anchovies. Today we celebrate Pizza. February 9 is International Pizza Day and the Guinness Book of Records states that the largest Pizza ever made and eaten was created in Havana, Florida and was 100 feet and 1 inch across! |
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| Deleted User | Jul 31 2006, 02:55 PM Post #18 |
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New York/New Jersey pizza is the best (aside from Papa John's). I think I will go with thin crust. |
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| BikerLikeAnIcon | Jul 31 2006, 03:10 PM Post #19 |
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Well, I like that hand-tossed kind, but if I had to choose between deep dish and thin crust....definately thin. |
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| tinybubbleca | Jul 31 2006, 03:45 PM Post #20 |
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i am cracking up here.. I love that we are now getting the history of pizza
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| Fry | Jul 31 2006, 06:07 PM Post #21 |
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When you think about it, pizza is really just posh cheese on toast. Never having been to Chicago or New York I couldn't really comment. Does having it delivered from Dominos, Pizza Hut or Franco's not count as a real pizza then? |
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| poster_child | Jul 31 2006, 06:43 PM Post #22 |
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Thin crust, good and crisp. But really, it's the toppings that make the pizza for me.
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| JeffLynnesBeard | Jul 31 2006, 06:44 PM Post #23 |
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I am so imagining eating that pizza right now... Sounds perfect! |
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| modgirl1964 | Jul 31 2006, 06:50 PM Post #24 |
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Only in NYC and Jersey can you get one like that or my house.
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| Sandra | Jul 31 2006, 07:12 PM Post #25 |
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Thin and crispy. Crikey, I'm starving I'm going to have to go and get something to eat right now. |
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| Merry | Jul 31 2006, 07:17 PM Post #26 |
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Fry, Little Caesars, Domino's (both based here in Michigan), are pretty much the "fast food" of pizza. They are mass-produced with little care about flavor, but if you want some in a hurry, they're there to serve you, and home deliver too, if that's what you'd like! Merry
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| JeffLynnesBeard | Jul 31 2006, 07:30 PM Post #27 |
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In mine (and Fiona's) opinon, you can't beat Papa John's for the best in fast food pizza.
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| Merry | Jul 31 2006, 07:32 PM Post #28 |
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I DO like Papa John's and Papa Ramono's! I wonder if they're related? :lol: Merry
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| scottycatt | Jul 31 2006, 07:37 PM Post #29 |
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I've rarely met a pizza I didn't like (well, I don't really like Domino's, but if it's the only thing available, I'll eat it. <_< ) I love thin crust pizza and the best I ever had was from Ray's Original in New York City (yes, Moz, I know what you're thinking -- WHICH Ray's?? There must be dozens of them!! :lol: ) I also love deep dish. Pizzeria Uno makes delicious varieties. Now, let me also put in a kind word for California pizzas -- the best of both worlds!!
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| Peter | Jul 31 2006, 07:44 PM Post #30 |
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cheese and toms make me sick so why am i reading this thread |
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| theonlyfab4fan | Jul 31 2006, 07:46 PM Post #31 |
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Cause you area a sicko
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You say you want to save humanity but it`s people that you just can`t stand John came to me in a dream and this is what he said. "I had a vision of a man on a flaming pie, and he told me that Betsy with a B not Lisa with a L is the biggest fan of mine". John trumps 'the boss' ! I WAS ROBBED BY THAT DEVIL WOMAN | |
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| tinybubbleca | Jul 31 2006, 08:47 PM Post #32 |
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mmmmmmm.... pizza!!!! |
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| Deleted User | Jul 31 2006, 10:36 PM Post #33 |
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Here near Louisville, KY, where Papa John Schnatter is from, there was a knock- off pizza joint called "Papa Don's". Tasted exactly like Papa John's, but he wasn't around too long. John Schnatter started off making pizzas in a broom closet in Jeffersonville, Indiana (my hometown). Look at him now.
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| theonlyfab4fan | Jul 31 2006, 10:42 PM Post #34 |
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Ahh so he is now out of the closet is he?
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You say you want to save humanity but it`s people that you just can`t stand John came to me in a dream and this is what he said. "I had a vision of a man on a flaming pie, and he told me that Betsy with a B not Lisa with a L is the biggest fan of mine". John trumps 'the boss' ! I WAS ROBBED BY THAT DEVIL WOMAN | |
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| Queenbee | Aug 1 2006, 04:15 AM Post #35 |
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Ummmmmm I could go for a pizza about right now. We have a friend who makes delicious pizza's, both pizza pie and thin crust. |
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HAHA! Yeah, and last year he was riding his bike down HWY 42 when some little sh*t threw a text book at him from a car window. He got hurt pretty bad. The little f*cker who threw the book got caught though. |
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| retrollama | Aug 1 2006, 06:04 AM Post #37 |
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Famous Ray's used to be my favorite -- 6th Ave and 11th Street in the Village... but they have a new owner these days. As a New Jersey resident, I have a plethora of pizza choices nearby. I've never even ordered from a Domino's or Papa John's! Pizzeria Uno is my favorite deep dish, but I really love the thin crust Margherita style (with sliced tomatoes and fresh mozzarella) served at my local Italian restaurant. So good!! |
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| mozart8mytoe | Aug 1 2006, 12:03 PM Post #38 |
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Dominos, Pizza Hut, and those other chains are to pizza what radiator fluid is to a nice refreshing drink.
Generally, whenever the word "original" is in a restaurant's name, it is not. |
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| Deleted User | Aug 1 2006, 03:00 PM Post #39 |
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Thin crust. And proper Italian pizza, not the fried crap. ALthough one pizza place in Nottingham has delicious fried pizzas... |
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