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Anyone into the space shuttle launches?
Topic Started: Jul 4 2006, 01:47 AM (378 Views)
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I was just reading on the news how they have had to postpone the launch due to weather, but now they are going to launch tomorrow the 4th.

What really surprises me is that they found a problem and are still going to do the launch. They found a crack in the insulation.

Now I haven't really ever followed these too closely, but isn't that something considered to be pretty dangrous? From what I have read, that was determined a factor in why the Columbia mission unfortunately went the way it did.

I also read they only have until July 19th to have a successful launch.

Any thoughts or insight?
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I was always fascinated with the space launches growing up. My mother worked for NASA and was fortunate enough to witness some of them and actually met various astronauts over the years. It was the only time my Mom would let me stay home so we could watch it on the t.v.

I'm no rocket scientist ;) but a cracked insulation doesn't sound good. :huh:
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Jul 3 2006, 10:50 PM
I was always fascinated with the space launches growing up. My mother worked for NASA and was fortunate enough to witness some of them and actually met various astronauts over the years. It was the only time my Mom would let me stay home so we could watch it on the t.v.

I'm no rocket scientist ;) but a cracked insulation doesn't sound good. :huh:

That's kinda my feeling, too. :huh:
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I heard they've now postponed the launch yet again because of the cracked insulation. Maybe they've realised that's the reason why the last shuttle exploded!

When was the last time NASA had a successful shuttle launch?

Does anyone remember the Challenger disaster back in 1986?
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Jul 4 2006, 01:33 AM
I heard they've now postponed the launch yet again because of the cracked insulation. Maybe they've realised that's the reason why the last shuttle exploded!

When was the last time NASA had a successful shuttle launch?

Does anyone remember the Challenger disaster back in 1986?

8th grade. Just sat there in stunned silence listening to Ronald Reagan give one of the most moving speeches this country's ever heard.
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I was almost 11 when the Challenger went up. I remember the whole school being called into the assembly hall to watch the news report that it had exploded. It didn't really make much impact on me at the time, considering that it had happened in America, and the disaster status doesn't mean much to an eleven year old. It was only as I got older that I realised how much of a tragedy it really was.
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I`m glad to hear that they have decided once again to postpone the launch. In the early days NASA had a zero tolerance policy for error but over the years in order cut costs they have relaxed some of their guidelines where safety messures are concerned and in my opinion that is not a good thing.

I was sitting on my couch watching television and nursing Tim who was 5 weeks old to the day when the Challenger disaster occured. I was in complete and utter shock at what I saw. Have yet to get that image out of my head nor the feeling of devastation of the tremendous loss to all concerned.

In 1998 I was able to see in person the launch when John Glenn went up in the shuttle. What a thrill that was to be there and witness history being made.
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Jul 4 2006, 06:54 AM
I was almost 11 when the Challenger went up. I remember the whole school being called into the assembly hall to watch the news report that it had exploded. It didn't really make much impact on me at the time, considering that it had happened in America, and the disaster status doesn't mean much to an eleven year old. It was only as I got older that I realised how much of a tragedy it really was.

That's almost, word for word, my experience of that disaster as well. I remember feeling sad for the astronauts and their families, but I don't think the enormity of those things hit you when you're that young.
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well now I see they are still continuing with the launch. It is going to be at 2:38 pm est.

I was 9 at the time of the Challenger tragedy and I just remember alot of kids in the class not actually realizing what had just happened.

I hope Nasa isn't making a mistake with this.
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HGentile
Jul 4 2006, 06:42 AM
well now I see they are still continuing with the launch. It is going to be at 2:38 pm est.



I hope Nasa isn't making a mistake with this.

I hope they aren't either.

I was an adult when the Challenger blew up, but I remember all the news reports. My sister was in the midst of a miscarriage the day the Challenger blew up, so every time it gets mentioned is bittersweet for her. She did say she cried her way through all the television coverage at the time.

I do remember the Discovery failing to make it back a few years ago.

I honestly don't understand what we are trying to do. We've been to the moon, so what else is the US trying to prove? It costs a lot of money to do this and the country has all kinds of problems that could use the money.
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What is the purpose of the continuing space program? I have to admit, I've never really been that interested in space launches. It all seems fairly pointless to me, not to mention dangerous.
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Jul 4 2006, 11:34 AM
What is the purpose of the continuing space program? I have to admit, I've never really been that interested in space launches. I all seems fairly pointless to me, not to mention dangerous.

Guess we agree! ;)
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The space program is very important for the world, not just the US. But sometimes that gets mired in the banality of beauracracy. :(
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Jul 4 2006, 07:11 PM
The space program is very important for the world, not just the US. But sometimes that gets mired in the banality of beauracracy. :(

I agree - I believe that the space program should always continue as long as it's activities are a quest for knowledge & exploration - we should never let apathy stop our thirst for adventure & seeking a better understanding of the universe.
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I like the space program, hope to see a manned Mars mission in my lifetime. The technology we create to get in space can be used in many different ways.

In regards to both the Challenger and Columbia disasters I sincerly hope they rest in peace along with the Mercury Astronauts, the Apollo crew, and all others who have lost their lives wishing to explore the stars. (that includes the dog up there too whose name i cannot remember now)
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Tony, the dogs name was Laika.
You say you want to save humanity but it`s people that you just can`t stand
John came to me in a dream and this is what he said. "I had a vision of a man on a flaming pie, and he told me that Betsy with a B not Lisa with a L is the biggest fan of mine". John trumps 'the boss' !

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Jul 4 2006, 08:30 PM
Tony, the dogs name was Laika.

Thank you ! It was driving me crazy too! :lol:
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Jul 4 2006, 10:48 PM
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Jul 4 2006, 07:11 PM
The space program is very important for the world, not just the US. But sometimes that gets mired in the banality of beauracracy. :(

I agree - I believe that the space program should always continue as long as it's activities are a quest for knowledge & exploration - we should never let apathy stop our thirst for adventure & seeking a better understanding of the universe.

But honestly, what do they do up there? Scientific experiments? If someone could educate me about this I would appreciate it.
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Jul 5 2006, 12:40 AM
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Jul 4 2006, 10:48 PM
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Jul 4 2006, 07:11 PM
The space program is very important for the world, not just the US. But sometimes that gets mired in the banality of beauracracy. :(

I agree - I believe that the space program should always continue as long as it's activities are a quest for knowledge & exploration - we should never let apathy stop our thirst for adventure & seeking a better understanding of the universe.

But honestly, what do they do up there? Scientific experiments? If someone could educate me about this I would appreciate it.

Not only do they conduct experiments but they do repair on sattelites. Imagine life without your cell phone, computer, gps devices in cars to tell you where you are going transatlanic telephone calls on and on and on it goes.
You say you want to save humanity but it`s people that you just can`t stand
John came to me in a dream and this is what he said. "I had a vision of a man on a flaming pie, and he told me that Betsy with a B not Lisa with a L is the biggest fan of mine". John trumps 'the boss' !

I WAS ROBBED BY THAT DEVIL WOMAN

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I'd appreciate a lot of education as to why my tax dollars are funding most of this. If it's so important to the world, then why isn't the world providing more funding?

I'm glad that since it got off, that it did so safely. I just don't understand why we are doing this and what more there is to do. If the experiments are providing better medical care, then I'd like to know. If they are just so someone can write a better doctoral thesis, then I don't want my money going for that purpose.
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maccascruff
Jul 5 2006, 12:48 AM
I'd appreciate a lot of education as to why my tax dollars are funding most of this. If it's so important to the world, then why isn't the world providing more funding?

I'm glad that since it got off, that it did so safely. I just don't understand why we are doing this and what more there is to do. If the experiments are providing better medical care, then I'd like to know. If they are just so someone can write a better doctoral thesis, then I don't want my money going for that purpose.

Many life saving medical breakthroughs are the result of the space program. Not to mention equipment to provide better diagnostics. CAT scans MRIs are all offshoots of technologies that resulted from the developement of machines used in space exploration.
You say you want to save humanity but it`s people that you just can`t stand
John came to me in a dream and this is what he said. "I had a vision of a man on a flaming pie, and he told me that Betsy with a B not Lisa with a L is the biggest fan of mine". John trumps 'the boss' !

I WAS ROBBED BY THAT DEVIL WOMAN

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Jul 4 2006, 08:51 PM
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Jul 5 2006, 12:48 AM
I'd appreciate a lot of education as to why my tax dollars are funding most of this.  If it's so important to the world, then why isn't the world providing more funding? 

I'm glad that since it got off, that it did so safely.  I just don't understand why we are doing this and what more there is to do.  If the experiments are providing better medical care, then I'd like to know.  If they are just so someone can write a better doctoral thesis, then I don't want my money going for that purpose.

Many life saving medical breakthroughs are the result of the space program. Not to mention equipment to provide better diagnostics. CAT scans MRIs are all offshoots of technologies that resulted from the developement of machines used in space exploration.

Don't forget about Tang and WD-40! :P

There are countless products that have come about from the space program that benefit the WORLD, not only the US. Your tax dollars have made medical advances, military advances, and even clothing and heating and cooling advances. Many experiments are carried out on missions. Plus it's one project that is truly international. There's a German on this mission, plus there's a space station up there, that was assembled by many nations together, and these astronauts may have to use it for 81 days if the foam damage proves too risky for re-entry.

And did you know that out of the trillions in the annual US budget, only about 0.8% (less than a penny per budget dollar) is spent on the space program? That's less than we spend for a month of cable, satellite, cell phones, whatever. Of course NONE of those things would be available without the space program. BUT WAIT!! It's estimated that for every dollar spent on space R&D, that $7 comes back in corporate and personal income taxes due to job and economic growth provided by the program!

Did you know that the Hubble telescope provided a window into more accurate breast exams for women by using a chip (CCD) that can tell the difference between malignant and benign tumors without a biopsy?

I beg you to read the rest of the following link. It's amazing what the space program has brought us!

http://www.thespaceplace.com/nasa/spinoffs.html
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Jul 5 2006, 01:11 AM
I like the space program, hope to see a manned Mars mission in my lifetime. The technology we create to get in space can be used in many different ways.

In regards to both the Challenger and Columbia disasters I sincerly hope they rest in peace along with the Mercury Astronauts, the Apollo crew, and all others who have lost their lives wishing to explore the stars. (that includes the dog up there too whose name i cannot remember now)

Laika?
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Jul 5 2006, 12:30 AM
Tony, the dogs name was Laika.

thanks for reminding me. Must be getting oldtimers.
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