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Ben Roethlisberger; Steelers Quarterback Has Accident
Topic Started: Jun 13 2006, 10:26 AM (318 Views)
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First of all, it's an idiotic thing to do to ride a motorcycle without a helmet. You are begging to become road kill. I was wanting opinions on what you all think the Steelers should do. He had been warned against riding without a helmet and chose to anyway. Do you think he'll ever play again? Did he let his team down? Thoughts?
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Hello? Is this thing on??? Hello? Hello?
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He's an idiot, albeit a lucky idiot, since he's not dead.

Cowher should rip him a new one and sit his ass down for a good long spell this season.
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Jun 13 2006, 02:34 PM
He's an idiot, albeit a lucky idiot, since he's not dead.

Cowher should rip him a new one and sit his ass down for a good long spell this season.

Or drop him all together.
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Jun 13 2006, 05:26 AM
First of all, it's an idiotic thing to do to ride a motorcycle without a helmet. You are begging to become road kill. I was wanting opinions on what you all think the Steelers should do. He had been warned against riding without a helmet and chose to anyway. Do you think he'll ever play again? Did he let his team down? Thoughts?

I agree its a stupid thing not to wear a helemt. Your taking your life in your own hands. He thinks thats cool not to wear one i think hes making an ass of himself.

He might play again~I think he did let his team down They need to suspend him,they have warned him all ready amny times before.
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I wonder if he thought that because he's who he is, he couldn't crash? Not to wear a helmet ranks up there with playing Russion Roullette with an AK47. :wacko: :wacko:
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Well, here's another clue for you all, the Walrus was Paul...
I'm deathly afraid of motorcycles...I was almost killed on one when I was in my early 20s (I was riding on the back...someone opened their car door right in front of us...you get the picture)
I don't understand why anyone who would want to ride a motorcycle wouldn't want to at least have the extra proctection a helmet can provide (albeit ...limited protection).
If the Steelers want Mr. Roethlisberger to wear a helmet or forgo riding a motorcycle at all while he is on the team...then they should write it into his contract. Of course...after this accident...Big Ben might just stop riding them all on his own...

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Jun 13 2006, 11:37 PM
I wonder if he thought that because he's who he is, he couldn't crash? Not to wear a helmet ranks up there with playing Russion Roullette with an AK47. :wacko: :wacko:

Yeah, he probably thought he was invincible. Like accidents don't happen to NFL quarterbacks.
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Jun 14 2006, 12:19 AM
I'm deathly afraid of motorcycles...I was almost killed on one when I was in my early 20s (I was riding on the back...someone opened their car door right in front of us...you get the picture)
I don't understand why anyone who would want to ride a motorcycle wouldn't want to at least have the extra proctection a helmet can provide (albeit ...limited protection).
If the Steelers want Mr. Roethlisberger to wear a helmet or forgo riding a motorcycle at all while he is on the team...then they should write it into his contract. Of course...after this accident...Big Ben might just stop riding them all on his own...

From what I understand, he declined to sign a contract that had the "you must wear a helmet" clause in it.
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Sports stars seem to have that mentality, don't they? That they are invincible. Makes you think that perhaps the expression "dumb jock" does fit more often than not. :)
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Jun 13 2006, 10:26 AM
First of all, it's an idiotic thing to do to ride a motorcycle without a helmet. You are begging to become road kill. I was wanting opinions on what you all think the Steelers should do. He had been warned against riding without a helmet and chose to anyway. Do you think he'll ever play again? Did he let his team down? Thoughts?


This imbecile is lucky he's not dead. I have no use for people who don't wear seat belts, or helmets, or talk on a cell phone while driving. When they get themselves killed they'll get what they deserve.

My only hope is that these assholes don't kill innocent peple.
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I think anyone who rides a mortorcycle should wear a helmut, but then as so many have mentioned lately it is about choice. He is a grown man, he doesn't have a contract that states he must wear one, and it is his own body.
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Jun 15 2006, 08:06 AM
I think anyone who rides a mortorcycle should wear a helmut, but then as so many have mentioned lately it is about choice. He is a grown man, he doesn't have a contract that states he must wear one, and it is his own body.

Well, yeah, but he was under a contract to do a specific job and he was aware and had been warned that his disregard for the importance of wearing a helmet could possibly take away his ability to perform his duties in this specific job. I agree that it should be up to the individual, and I will go so far as to say that it shouldn't be a law to wear one. I just believe it's another example of someone getting too big for their britches and thinking "I'll do what I want to do and will have no regard for my job or my team."
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I think he's a dumbass for not wearing his helmet and he's very lucky that his injuries weren't more severe.

I don't think there's anything the Steelers can do legally, he didn't break any laws or violate his contract so I imagine the most they can do is call him a dumbass. I did read somewhere that he is expected to play this season.


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Jun 15 2006, 08:06 AM
He is a grown man, he doesn't have a contract that states he must wear one, and it is his own body.


You're 100% right. On the other side of the coin when you are that ignorant no one should give a sh*t if you're alright.

Afterall, you must have wanted to get hurt in the first place or you would have used your brain and worn a helmet.
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Jun 15 2006, 03:06 AM
I think anyone who rides a mortorcycle should wear a helmut, but then as so many have mentioned lately it is about choice. He is a grown man, he doesn't have a contract that states he must wear one, and it is his own body.

While it may not be in his contract, for all the money he is getting I would think the least he could do was make sure he takes good care of himself. The steelers are taking good care of him, so why shouldn't he do the same.

I would have hated to see a worse outcome with this accident for his sake, but he put the whole teams season on the line for his reckless off-field antics.

He should be more dedicated than that, I know I would be.
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Jun 16 2006, 01:35 AM
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Jun 15 2006, 08:06 AM
He is a grown man, he doesn't have a contract that states he must wear one, and it is his own body.


You're 100% right. On the other side of the coin when you are that ignorant no one should give a sh*t if you're alright.

Afterall, you must have wanted to get hurt in the first place or you would have used your brain and worn a helmet.

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I think anyone who rides a mortorcycle should wear a helmut, but then as so many have mentioned lately it is about choice. He is a grown man, he doesn't have a contract that states he must wear one, and it is his own body.

Well, yeah, but he was under a contract to do a specific job and he was aware and had been warned that his disregard for the importance of wearing a helmet could possibly take away his ability to perform his duties in this specific job. I agree that it should be up to the individual, and I will go so far as to say that it shouldn't be a law to wear one. I just believe it's another example of someone getting too big for their britches and thinking "I'll do what I want to do and will have no regard for my job or my team."

If I recall Tassy you are a nurse employed to do a specific job. Do you feel your employer should expect you to refrain from doing anything that could cause you harm and keep you from working? After all the entire nursing staff is a team, sprain your ankle, the team suffers. Maybe you shouldn't bbq, that can be dangerous, should your boss be able to say that you can't do it? Hell in America I walk through a cloud of smoke from the hospital staff just to get to the building. What happens when they say we don't want you smoking on your own time. Would be just as wrong as telling someone they must wear a helmut on their own time.
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He is a grown man, he doesn't have a contract that states he must wear one, and it is his own body.


You're 100% right. On the other side of the coin when you are that ignorant no one should give a sh*t if you're alright.

Afterall, you must have wanted to get hurt in the first place or you would have used your brain and worn a helmet.

Some bikers do claim that wearing a helmut takes away from their abilty to hear well. Can be dangerous if you can't hear that child screaming, the siren of an ambulance, or that road rage driver honking behind you.
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Jun 16 2006, 10:27 AM
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I think anyone who rides a mortorcycle should wear a helmut, but then as so many have mentioned lately it is about choice. He is a grown man, he doesn't have a contract that states he must wear one, and it is his own body.

Well, yeah, but he was under a contract to do a specific job and he was aware and had been warned that his disregard for the importance of wearing a helmet could possibly take away his ability to perform his duties in this specific job. I agree that it should be up to the individual, and I will go so far as to say that it shouldn't be a law to wear one. I just believe it's another example of someone getting too big for their britches and thinking "I'll do what I want to do and will have no regard for my job or my team."

If I recall Tassy you are a nurse employed to do a specific job. Do you feel your employer should expect you to refrain from doing anything that could cause you harm and keep you from working? After all the entire nursing staff is a team, sprain your ankle, the team suffers. Maybe you shouldn't bbq, that can be dangerous, should your boss be able to say that you can't do it? Hell in America I walk through a cloud of smoke from the hospital staff just to get to the building. What happens when they say we don't want you smoking on your own time. Would be just as wrong as telling someone they must wear a helmut on their own time.

I think riding a motorcycle without a helmet is a bit more risky than every day mishaps that might happen. As a matter of fact, although nurses are not ordered to, they are warned against the hazards of smoking and strongly urged not to. Like I said, I don't think it should be a law to wear a helmet. It should be the individual's choice. Accidents happen and you can't get around that, but you can protect yourself to the best of your ability. You owe it to those who love and are counting on you. Most of all you owe it to yourself.

I understand he issued a statement yesterday saying that he never thought it would happen to him and if he ever gets on a bike again, he'll wear a helmet.
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Tassy,

He did say that and also was quoted as saying the following:

In the statement, Roethlisberger said that he realizes he has a responsibility to safeguard his health in the offseason so he can continue to lead the team.

Thankfully he didn't suffer any brain injuries. You could be the best driver in the the world and still get seriously injured or worse if you happen to be driving near someone who isn't so careful. I'm just glad he is fine and he won't suffer any long-lasting effects from this.
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Jun 16 2006, 01:30 PM
Some bikers do claim that wearing a helmut takes away from their abilty to hear well. Can be dangerous if you can't hear that child screaming, the siren of an ambulance, or that road rage driver honking behind you.

I'm sorry, but that's absolute crap.
You can see perfectly well and you can hear perfectly well when you wear a helmet. Obviously helmet designers have considered these issues.
I'm speaking from personal experience and I don't even own one of the really good, expensive helmets.
These and similar statements are simply excuses for not wanting to wear a helmet, from irresponsible people who think they are accident-proof.
Even if they don't care about their personal safety, they should at least have the decency to consider the possibility of an accident. If they have sh*t for brains and they want to risk their lives, that's fine; but if someone is involved in an accident with them and sees them killed when they could have been saved... not only will they have problems with the law but they will also have to suffer for the rest of their lives.

I'm not saying helmets provide with 100% safety (surely you need more than just a helmet), but they do save lives. Let's face it; motorcycles are dangerous. Everyone knows that and anyone who choses to ride one must be mature enough to realise that he/ she will need extra protection. If you get a motorbike to look cool and impress the ladies then surely you have it coming.
(edit: I don't mean you, tonyhemp, I'm saying in general :P)

I'm sorry but I really don't like people who ride and don't protect themselves as they should.
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I think anyone who rides a mortorcycle should wear a helmut, but then as so many have mentioned lately it is about choice. He is a grown man, he doesn't have a contract that states he must wear one, and it is his own body.

Well, yeah, but he was under a contract to do a specific job and he was aware and had been warned that his disregard for the importance of wearing a helmet could possibly take away his ability to perform his duties in this specific job. I agree that it should be up to the individual, and I will go so far as to say that it shouldn't be a law to wear one. I just believe it's another example of someone getting too big for their britches and thinking "I'll do what I want to do and will have no regard for my job or my team."

If I recall Tassy you are a nurse employed to do a specific job. Do you feel your employer should expect you to refrain from doing anything that could cause you harm and keep you from working? After all the entire nursing staff is a team, sprain your ankle, the team suffers. Maybe you shouldn't bbq, that can be dangerous, should your boss be able to say that you can't do it? Hell in America I walk through a cloud of smoke from the hospital staff just to get to the building. What happens when they say we don't want you smoking on your own time. Would be just as wrong as telling someone they must wear a helmut on their own time.

I think riding a motorcycle without a helmet is a bit more risky than every day mishaps that might happen. As a matter of fact, although nurses are not ordered to, they are warned against the hazards of smoking and strongly urged not to. Like I said, I don't think it should be a law to wear a helmet. It should be the individual's choice. Accidents happen and you can't get around that, but you can protect yourself to the best of your ability. You owe it to those who love and are counting on you. Most of all you owe it to yourself.

I understand he issued a statement yesterday saying that he never thought it would happen to him and if he ever gets on a bike again, he'll wear a helmet.

Don't forget Tassy, you can lose your nursing license for something as trivial as not stopping at an accident scene.
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Why is everyone OK with seatbelt laws, but not helmet laws? They sort of go hand in hand in my book.
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I think anyone who rides a mortorcycle should wear a helmut, but then as so many have mentioned lately it is about choice. He is a grown man, he doesn't have a contract that states he must wear one, and it is his own body.

Well, yeah, but he was under a contract to do a specific job and he was aware and had been warned that his disregard for the importance of wearing a helmet could possibly take away his ability to perform his duties in this specific job. I agree that it should be up to the individual, and I will go so far as to say that it shouldn't be a law to wear one. I just believe it's another example of someone getting too big for their britches and thinking "I'll do what I want to do and will have no regard for my job or my team."

If I recall Tassy you are a nurse employed to do a specific job. Do you feel your employer should expect you to refrain from doing anything that could cause you harm and keep you from working? After all the entire nursing staff is a team, sprain your ankle, the team suffers. Maybe you shouldn't bbq, that can be dangerous, should your boss be able to say that you can't do it? Hell in America I walk through a cloud of smoke from the hospital staff just to get to the building. What happens when they say we don't want you smoking on your own time. Would be just as wrong as telling someone they must wear a helmut on their own time.

I think riding a motorcycle without a helmet is a bit more risky than every day mishaps that might happen. As a matter of fact, although nurses are not ordered to, they are warned against the hazards of smoking and strongly urged not to. Like I said, I don't think it should be a law to wear a helmet. It should be the individual's choice. Accidents happen and you can't get around that, but you can protect yourself to the best of your ability. You owe it to those who love and are counting on you. Most of all you owe it to yourself.

I understand he issued a statement yesterday saying that he never thought it would happen to him and if he ever gets on a bike again, he'll wear a helmet.

Don't forget Tassy, you can lose your nursing license for something as trivial as not stopping at an accident scene.

Oh yeah, don't I know it. I can't count on two hands how many times I've had to stop in the rain to help.
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