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tonyhemp
Jun 7 2006, 04:34 AM
wings4ever_vzla
Jun 7 2006, 04:20 AM
you are right!!!!

i think each one of us had great memories there!

but anyway i can still post there.. we were born there B)

but.. this place is like home!!!

it is like when were older and we often  miss the good time we spent in the chilhood in our hometown..... well this board is like we could have a second chance to keep on having a good time.. !!!

we can build our new own  memories here!!!
In the future we could say this forum were born in the 64 yr! :o

and i am always amazed that in a way or other we can keep our friendship ..people from diferent parts of the world ..the whole world shearing experiences, opinion, geting to know the culture of each one has no price


for all the memmber of this board a warm hug

Win Or Lose, Sink Or Swim
One Thing Is Certain We'll Never Give In
Side By Side, Hand In Hand
We All Stand Together


and And Remember To Be ... Cosmically Conscious


thanks merry you took me down to Strawberry Fields->

Well said

I agree, beautifully put.
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I AM THE BIGGEST JOHN FAN!
Peter
Jun 7 2006, 06:11 AM
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Jun 7 2006, 04:32 AM
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Jun 7 2006, 03:44 AM
Peter
Jun 7 2006, 03:40 AM
oh i am okay now but i needed a couple of smokes after reading it   :mellow:


do you mean a bob marley cigarret peter??!!! :o

Sounds good to me

so we can make get together


just good old virginia tobacco

North Carolina tobacco is better :P



Most of the tobacco grown in the US is grown in NC. If you are ever on a quiz show that tidbit might come in handy :D
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Sandra

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Jun 7 2006, 03:30 AM
Amen.  And for those of us who were members from the beginning it is pretty sad to think that the Macca Board couldn't go back to its' glory days.  It was a board that was a lot of fun.  There were a lot of laughs as well as a lot of controversy.  Would that board do well without certain people, of course it would.  Just because the board isn't doing well right now doesn't mean that it isn't a worthwhile place.  With a bit of nurturing by everyone it can be fun again.  But in being fun, we should hope that we can, once again, talk politics WITHOUT the childish fingerpointing.  We can be adults and agree to disagree in a respectful way.  Give the board sometime and a break.  Both this board and the Macca board can peacefully coexist.  I, for one will not give up my membership there.  To many good times were shared and many more to hopefully come.  You do know that on the original Wingspan board, that evolved into PM.com, is where the Charmin joke was born.  Just some twisted minds one Saturday night and it still is fun to bring up.  :innocent:  :whistle:  :P

I agree with everything you say Beatlechick.

I'm not giving up on the maccaboard either. As a lifelong McCartney fan who has been there since the beginning I want to remain a part of the official board and to particpate when I feel like it just as I've always done. :)

I hope it can be turned around I think for me certainly, it needs a bit of distance right now. I might add a comment or two here and there but I'm trying to keep out of the controversial threads because I want them to die a natural death not because I don't have a strong feeling about the situation. Although I'm a great advocate of being allowed to express myself openly with that right comes the responsibily of knowing when to keep quiet.

Usually I can do that with only a little restraint. In all the years I've been a member only one person has made me work hard at not allowing myself to be wound up by them.

I am going to be here more than there for the forseeable future it's open friendly interesting and full of great people but Fiona and Andy haven't asked to choose one side over the other. I'm very happy to belong to both places. :)
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I'm absolutely furious at what's going on over at the Macca Board.

People are getting warnings and bannings for f-all.

There was me provoking for years - and I'm still allowed to posty there.

Ther's no justice.
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any idea how long it took me to read all 66 pages?????
one thing for sure, twas an interesting read
Fiona and Andy, thank you for a wonderful board, Merry, i cant believe what has happened to you, well yeah, guess i can believe it, one of my posts on the other board was wiped out with the thread as well, all i did was post those little smileys
strange things have evolved there, glad i am welcome here
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Jun 7 2006, 10:42 AM

I hope it can be turned around I think for me certainly, it needs a bit of distance right now. I might add a comment or two here and there but I'm trying to keep out of the controversial threads because I want them to die a natural death not because I don't have a strong feeling about the situation. Although I'm a great advocate of being allowed to express myself openly with that right comes the responsibily of knowing when to keep quiet.

Usually I can do that with only a little restraint. In all the years I've been a member only one person has made me work hard at not allowing myself to be wound up by them.

I am going to be here more than there for the forseeable future it's open friendly interesting and full of great people but Fiona and Andy haven't asked to choose one side over the other. I'm very happy to belong to both places. :)

Well said!!I'm going to follow your lead, & do the same!
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Well Audrey, the full "story" hasn't been told. I'm not trying to grind any axes and I'd just as soon put the entire thing behind me, but yes...ALOT of "strange things" have been happening there.

It's sad too, because I'd always loved it there. Thankfully this forum more than makes up for it to me, now.


:) Merry


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maccascruff
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I'm going to post at both places, but right now, this board has more life. Part of it is because some of us are refusing to fight with certain members--and it's not Tuesday! Those people are going to go crazy without us to fight with.

Audrey, you don't want to know what all happened. I was part of it, but Merry got the worst of it by far. It's downright scary what happened to the both of us, but scarier for Merry.

And, Nutty, I think I told you guys in Toronto I was supposed to meet Noa in Toronto, but she stood me up. She actually stood me up twice there--one in May 2005 and again in October, so I'm finished with her. She had said she wouldn't come where the boardies were meeting and told me to stay away from you! :lol: I'm glad I didn't.
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audrey
Jun 7 2006, 01:35 PM
any idea how long it took me to read all 66 pages?????
one thing for sure, twas an interesting read
Fiona and Andy, thank you for a wonderful board, Merry, i cant believe what has happened to you, well yeah, guess i can believe it, one of my posts on the other board was wiped out with the thread as well, all i did was post those little smileys
strange things have evolved there, glad i am welcome here

Audrey, you are welcome here. I feel like a victim of PM.com. It was like a gulog over there!
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Jun 7 2006, 04:11 PM


And, Nutty, I think I told you guys in Toronto I was supposed to meet Noa in Toronto, but she stood me up. She actually stood me up twice there--one in May 2005 and again in October, so I'm finished with her. She had said she wouldn't come where the boardies were meeting and told me to stay away from you! :lol: I'm glad I didn't.


Yes, I remember you told me Linda. Well she's entitled to her own opinion.

She used to call me on my cell, at my office, and at home. She got p*ssed at me because she told me she was going to go to a bar in Boston, take any guy that was there, and try and get knocked up so she could have a baby without his knowledge so she could become an American Citizen.

When I told her she was crazy she got p*ssed and that was that. She was mad because I was supposed to be her friend and didn't support her position.
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Jun 7 2006, 04:21 PM
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Jun 7 2006, 04:11 PM


And, Nutty, I think I told you guys in Toronto I was supposed to meet Noa in Toronto, but she stood me up.  She actually stood me up twice there--one in May 2005 and again in October, so I'm finished with her.  She had said she wouldn't come where the boardies were meeting and told me to stay away from you! :lol:  I'm glad I didn't.


Yes, I remember you told me Linda. Well she's entitled to her own opinion.

She used to call me on my cell, at my office, and at home. She got p*ssed at me because she told me she was going to go to a bar in Boston, take any guy that was there, and try and get knocked up so she could have a baby without his knowledge so she could become an American Citizen.

When I told her she was crazy she got p*ssed and that was that. She was mad because I was supposed to be her friend and didn't support her position.

yeah... what a freaking wack job that girl was...

:lol:
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but you have to admit, it WAS entertaining!!! :P :D :D

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Jun 7 2006, 04:24 PM
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Jun 7 2006, 04:11 PM


And, Nutty, I think I told you guys in Toronto I was supposed to meet Noa in Toronto, but she stood me up.  She actually stood me up twice there--one in May 2005 and again in October, so I'm finished with her.  She had said she wouldn't come where the boardies were meeting and told me to stay away from you! :lol:   I'm glad I didn't.


Yes, I remember you told me Linda. Well she's entitled to her own opinion.

She used to call me on my cell, at my office, and at home. She got p*ssed at me because she told me she was going to go to a bar in Boston, take any guy that was there, and try and get knocked up so she could have a baby without his knowledge so she could become an American Citizen.

When I told her she was crazy she got p*ssed and that was that. She was mad because I was supposed to be her friend and didn't support her position.

yeah... what a freaking wack job that girl was...

:lol:


Oh yeah...I got two words for you...NICE YUMMIES!!! :D
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Jun 7 2006, 04:27 PM
but you have to admit, it WAS entertaining!!! :P :D :D

non



That it was NONNY CAKES, that it was!! :D
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Jun 7 2006, 04:28 PM
non
Jun 7 2006, 04:27 PM
but you have to admit, it WAS entertaining!!! :P  :D  :D

non



That it was NONNY CAKES, that it was!! :D

I read your post on how you used to be on the board for hours and everyone was there- those were fun days! Too bad it is gone.....but we move on-

Good to see many of the old gang here!!

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Jun 7 2006, 04:11 PM


And, Nutty, I think I told you guys in Toronto I was supposed to meet Noa in Toronto, but she stood me up.  She actually stood me up twice there--one in May 2005 and again in October, so I'm finished with her.  She had said she wouldn't come where the boardies were meeting and told me to stay away from you! :lol:   I'm glad I didn't.


Yes, I remember you told me Linda. Well she's entitled to her own opinion.

She used to call me on my cell, at my office, and at home. She got p*ssed at me because she told me she was going to go to a bar in Boston, take any guy that was there, and try and get knocked up so she could have a baby without his knowledge so she could become an American Citizen.

When I told her she was crazy she got p*ssed and that was that. She was mad because I was supposed to be her friend and didn't support her position.

yeah... what a freaking wack job that girl was...

:lol:


Oh yeah...I got two words for you...NICE YUMMIES!!! :D

:D :lol: :lol:


focus nut... focus.... ;)


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Jun 7 2006, 11:21 AM
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Jun 7 2006, 04:11 PM


And, Nutty, I think I told you guys in Toronto I was supposed to meet Noa in Toronto, but she stood me up.  She actually stood me up twice there--one in May 2005 and again in October, so I'm finished with her.  She had said she wouldn't come where the boardies were meeting and told me to stay away from you! :lol:  I'm glad I didn't.


Yes, I remember you told me Linda. Well she's entitled to her own opinion.

She used to call me on my cell, at my office, and at home. She got p*ssed at me because she told me she was going to go to a bar in Boston, take any guy that was there, and try and get knocked up so she could have a baby without his knowledge so she could become an American Citizen.

When I told her she was crazy she got p*ssed and that was that. She was mad because I was supposed to be her friend and didn't support her position.

:lol:

And she had the guts in another Message board that I was bad for having an internet relationship? OMFG!!!!! She is a wack job.
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maccascruff
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This is getting way off topic, but have you ever read her blog? She uses men and could care less about them. I'm glad she never showed up in Toronto, but I loved watching you guys duke it out on the board. I always missed the good stuff. The threads would be locked by the time I got there.

She was going to stand me up another time, too. I was supposed to go to Boston to see her. I called her to tell her my plans had changed and I wasn't coming to Boston after all. She said it was a good thing because she was moving to Canada that weekend. She was supposed to meet me at the plane, etc. and I was to stay with her and she wasn't going to tell me she was going to Canada.
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hey i made a thread in the tmt in the pm forum and people thre change the point..so i have to write this down.
i do not know if is it correct to write a link from some other place
but take a look..and seng good ,and positive energy to fiona and an andy :innocent:

[url=[URL=http://macca.devstars.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?p=1712692#1712692]http://macca.devstars.com/phpBB2/viewtopic...1712692#1712692[/URL]] take a look[/URL]
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non
Jun 7 2006, 04:27 PM
but you have to admit, it WAS entertaining!!! :P :D :D

non

yeah you have made me wait too long for the answer of my pinaple cake :wacko:
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Thanks Pedro! I've read the contents of that thread - thanks for starting it and for the spirit in which it was started. ^_^
...and in the end, the love you take is equal to the love you make.
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Oh my! All I can say is, if they don't like what we have to say over here, then stay away and don't read it, isn't that pretty much what HE was saying?

Same old tiresome diatribe set to a different, but all too familiar tune.

That's why I haven't gone over there, nothing is any different, it's just the same! :hmm:


:) Merry


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Jun 8 2006, 03:06 AM
Thanks Pedro!  I've read the contents of that thread - thanks for starting it and for the spirit in which it was started.  ^_^

I just wanted to let people know the great soul you and fiona have...you deserve even something better ....... it is sad people there can not understand the situation., the message....r maybe there are so many jelousy???
...it is reallya pity for me!!
just wanted to give you (el reconocimiento que ustedes se merecen)

thanks for this place andy and also thank for making the pm a great place to be in those time ....
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Well, here's another clue for you all, the Walrus was Paul...
Sometimes when I read certain posts by certain people ( I guess any lurkers will have to guess who I am speaking about) all I can think is

:yammer: BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH :yammer:

Same sh*t Different Day.

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Jun 7 2006, 10:18 AM
tonyhemp
Jun 7 2006, 04:34 AM
wings4ever_vzla
Jun 7 2006, 04:20 AM
you are right!!!!

i think each one of us had great memories there!

but anyway i can still post there.. we were born there B)

but.. this place is like home!!!

it is like when were older and we often  miss the good time we spent in the chilhood in our hometown..... well this board is like we could have a second chance to keep on having a good time.. !!!

we can build our new own  memories here!!!
In the future we could say this forum were born in the 64 yr! :o

and i am always amazed that in a way or other we can keep our friendship ..people from diferent parts of the world ..the whole world shearing experiences, opinion, geting to know the culture of each one has no price


for all the memmber of this board a warm hug

Win Or Lose, Sink Or Swim
One Thing Is Certain We'll Never Give In
Side By Side, Hand In Hand
We All Stand Together


and And Remember To Be ... Cosmically Conscious


thanks merry you took me down to Strawberry Fields->

Well said

I agree, beautifully put.

yeah we have found an amazing place to be and stay
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Jun 7 2006, 01:42 PM
Well Audrey, the full "story" hasn't been told. I'm not trying to grind any axes and I'd just as soon put the entire thing behind me, but yes...ALOT of "strange things" have been happening there.

It's sad too, because I'd always loved it there. Thankfully this forum more than makes up for it to me, now.


:) Merry

Well, Merry, i just cant imagine anyone having any issue with you, i have posted with and read many of your posts, and it makes no sense to me,,,,,, and i know more than i care to know, i am only sorry for the grief you have had to suffer.
this board is great, folks are nice, different opinions are allowed and all my friends are here
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Thank you, Audrey!

Yes, this is a great forum, and we owe a great deal of thanks to our hosts for starting it. I prefer the quiet and peaceful atmosphere!

Don't get me wrong, we have many different personalities, but I think we show respect for one another, and the fact that we can voice our opinions without feeling we'll be gagged or lynched makes it truly unique and enjoyable. :)


:) Merry



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Its a great forum both are it is interesting if you happen to like both sites. I enjoy both
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When I first joined the official board about a year ago, there were some really good threads on the TMT board. I didn't post in them (unless I had personal experience of what was being discussed) but I enjoyed reading them. However, they then disappeared in rapid succession. I recall one was the domestic violence thread - someone (not a regular contributor to the board) made a totally insensitive remark and one of the other contributors blew up - those posts were removed (rightly so) but shortly afterwards the whole thread was pulled. My memory may be a bit inaccurate here but the self-harm thread and the thread about depression disappeared about the same time. It made me wonder if the Mods were unhappy about certain topics being discussed. I would like to think that if anyone wanted to start topics like that on this board, they would be allowed to run.
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I wanted to spit because a certain member over at PM was going on and on and on, and I just wanted to smack this person. He totally ignores the mods suggestions to shut up, and he gives lame excuses why he's going on and on.
I love PM.com, but I don't post much there.
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Jun 8 2006, 12:30 PM
I recall one was the domestic violence thread - someone (not a regular contributor to the board) made a totally insensitive remark and one of the other contributors blew up - those posts were removed (rightly so) but shortly afterwards the whole thread was pulled.

hah... I liked that thread. I hope you are not referring to my post. I think I was a bit insensitive but all I had said was I thought parents who hit their children are basically bad parents. I think at that point some people had been saying that hitting your child every once in a while is not bad etc.
Anyway, that was a long time ago.

The mods don't want serious conversations in that board. Maybe they can't handle them.
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My guess is that they don't want to address any issues that are "negative" or controversial on the forum.

Even if they were helpful, being a little too open about some things that they prefer don't exist is subject to deletion.

"Fluff" is okay, though.

At least that's how I see it...my opinion.

Some things they don't want to be addressed.

It IS a celebrity's website though, so they can choose which topics are allowed and which won't be.

Maybe it could be restarted over here. I know it benefitted alot of people, they were able to let things out that they couldn't elsewhere and share experiences.

:) Merry


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Jun 8 2006, 01:51 PM
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Jun 8 2006, 12:30 PM
I recall one was the domestic violence thread - someone (not a regular contributor to the board) made a totally insensitive remark and one of the other contributors blew up - those posts were removed (rightly so) but shortly afterwards the whole thread was pulled.

hah... I liked that thread. I hope you are not referring to my post. I think I was a bit insensitive but all I had said was I thought parents who hit their children are basically bad parents. I think at that point some people had been saying that hitting your child every once in a while is not bad etc.
Anyway, that was a long time ago.

The mods don't want serious conversations in that board. Maybe they can't handle them.

If my memory serves me correct, the thread was fine until someone commented: 'spare the rod, spoil the child'.

I cannot remember the context of that comment but it was like dynamite!

Such a pity because it can be very helpful to have threads on certain sensitive issues - those people in the midst of them know then they are not alone.
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Jun 8 2006, 12:58 PM
My guess is that they don't want to address any issues that are "negative" or controversial on the forum.

Even if they were helpful, being a little too open about some things that they prefer don't exist is subject to deletion.

"Fluff" is okay, though.

At least that's how I see it...my opinion.

Some things they don't want to be addressed.

It IS a celebrity's website though, so they can choose which topics are allowed and which won't be.

Maybe it could be restarted over here. I know it benefitted alot of people, they were able to let things out that they couldn't elsewhere and share experiences.

:) Merry

I completely agree,Merry! As long as we stay away from serious issues, & stick to the Stay Puft Marshmallow subjects, it's okay. Plus, they only seem to censor only a few, & not everyone, regardless of how rude they become. It's not fair. So, I would rather come here, & let the chips fall where they may. :D
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Jun 8 2006, 05:16 PM
If my memory serves me correct, the thread was fine until someone commented: 'spare the rod, spoil the child'.

I cannot remember the context of that comment but it was like dynamite!

ok, that wasn't me, phew :P
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Jun 8 2006, 12:51 PM
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Jun 8 2006, 12:30 PM
I recall one was the domestic violence thread - someone (not a regular contributor to the board) made a totally insensitive remark and one of the other contributors blew up - those posts were removed (rightly so) but shortly afterwards the whole thread was pulled.

hah... I liked that thread. I hope you are not referring to my post. I think I was a bit insensitive but all I had said was I thought parents who hit their children are basically bad parents. I think at that point some people had been saying that hitting your child every once in a while is not bad etc.
Anyway, that was a long time ago.

The mods don't want serious conversations in that board. Maybe they can't handle them.

neither mine
i open a thread to give thanks.... and people cahnge the meaning
so i ask for repect.
and some one told me i was going to be banned <_< for asking respet
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youngformyage
Jun 8 2006, 03:16 PM
Such a pity because it can be very helpful to have threads on certain sensitive issues - those people in the midst of them know then they are not alone.

I couldn't agree more. I understand the moderators at some places not wanting to feel responsible for people's lives - and, being such a large board, they've had all kinds of things happen there... for example, I know of two suicide attempts by people who have advertised the fact that they were doing it on the Macca board - can't be pleasant.

I do think that it's much more healthy for people to discuss these things and for certain subjects not to be 'taboo'. One of the worst things for people who are victims of things like domestic abuse, self harm (or any of the things which have been deemed 'unsuitable' for discussion there) is for those people to feel as if that subject is somehow shameful. Open discussion is the best thing that can happen for these subjects, especially for the people affected by them. As you so rightly said, people need to know that they are not alone. :)
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Jun 8 2006, 02:30 AM
When I first joined the official board about a year ago, there were some really good threads on the TMT board. I didn't post in them (unless I had personal experience of what was being discussed) but I enjoyed reading them. However, they then disappeared in rapid succession. I recall one was the domestic violence thread - someone (not a regular contributor to the board) made a totally insensitive remark and one of the other contributors blew up - those posts were removed (rightly so) but shortly afterwards the whole thread was pulled. My memory may be a bit inaccurate here but the self-harm thread and the thread about depression disappeared about the same time. It made me wonder if the Mods were unhappy about certain topics being discussed. I would like to think that if anyone wanted to start topics like that on this board, they would be allowed to run.

Fiona did start a thread on Suicide. It was a very good thread. Nobody jumped down anybody's throat nor was there any malice towards anyone who attempted suicide. What was generally said to the people who either attempted it or was thinking of it, was that they need to seek help. Someone even gave the Suicide Helpline phone numbers. It did help give out information to people who needed it. Unfortunately there were some boardies who took great exception to the thread and had the thread locked for good. That was very unfortunate as we did have a boardie that was on the verge of suicide. She did attempt it after the thread was locked but, fortunately for her family and us, she was caught by her daughter. Seems the handful of boardies thought that suicide should not be talked about on a board for all ages. I guess we aren't mature enough to talk about things like that. :angry:
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I couldn't believe what I read in the TMT thread this morning. Somebody was taking me to task and apparently thinks there has been favoritism because I haven't had a warning. It was inferred that I wasn't telling the truth peradventure. I will state again, since I know for a fact that person reads this board, I have never had an official warning. I have been given advice when I asked for it, but never a warning of any kind from any mod. I have turned off the computer and gone to bed rather than argue with that person because his way of twisting every word I write or anyone else writes into something they didn't say makes me want to throw my computer out the window.

And, Pedro, your thread did turn into something you never intended. I hope Sarah has brought it back on track.

The self help threads are touchy. When the one person threatened suicide this spring, she turned off the computer. It was a couple of days before we found out that her daughter caught her and took her to the hospital. A lot of people were very concerned for her, but I found it very sad that you look at an internet message board when you are in that much trouble.
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Jun 8 2006, 06:38 PM
I couldn't believe what I read in the TMT thread this morning. Somebody was taking me to task and apparently thinks there has been favoritism because I haven't had a warning. It was inferred that I wasn't telling the truth peradventure. I will state again, since I know for a fact that person reads this board, I have never had an official warning. I have been given advice when I asked for it, but never a warning of any kind from any mod. I have turned off the computer and gone to bed rather than argue with that person because his way of twisting every word I write or anyone else writes into something they didn't say makes me want to throw my computer out the window.

And, Pedro, your thread did turn into something you never intended. I hope Sarah has brought it back on track.

The self help threads are touchy. When the one person threatened suicide this spring, she turned off the computer. It was a couple of days before we found out that her daughter caught her and took her to the hospital. A lot of people were very concerned for her, but I found it very sad that you look at an internet message board when you are in that much trouble.

I saw what you were talking about, Linda. He was a bit on attack mode last night. I have never recieved any warnings either. Is that favoritism? I don't know any of the mods so I doubt it.

As for Sarah getting people back on track on Pedro's thread, I am making everyone sit at attention and waiting for Sarah to come in with the whip. Some of the people on there need it. :P Unfortunately I'm sure there are those that want to be whipped!! :innocent: :whistle:
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I don't want to be whipped either and I stayed clear of that thread today, aside from reading it. And it wasn't even Tuesday. I don't know any of the mods, but I'm sure I'm one of the trouble makers he was referring to. Everyone has their own list of trouble makers. I'm an angel in my eyes. :innocent: I have a list of people I consider trouble makers and they aren't the same for everyone. I must not be too bad since I've never had a warning.
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I'm an angel to, in my eyes. Of course I am a legend in my own mind as well!! ;)

I, too think he had me in mind with being one of the troublemakers. If he thinks so, I feel very honored. :)
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I feel honored to have been on the list, too. :D
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Jun 8 2006, 07:08 PM
I feel honored to have been on the list, too. :D

Yeah, it's like some rite of passage!! Let's get some champagne and celebrate!!
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Jun 8 2006, 07:08 PM
I feel honored to have been on the list, too. :D

Yeah, it's like some rite of passage!! Let's get some champagne and celebrate!!

Great idea!
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Jun 9 2006, 01:38 AM
I couldn't believe what I read in the TMT thread this morning.  Somebody was taking me to task and apparently thinks there has been favoritism because I haven't had a warning.  It was inferred that I wasn't telling the truth peradventure.  I will state again, since I know for a fact that person reads this board, I have never had an official warning.  I have been given advice when I asked for it, but never a warning of any kind from any mod.  I have turned off the computer and gone to bed rather than argue with that person because his way of twisting every word I write or anyone else writes into something they didn't say makes me want to throw my computer out the window. 

And, Pedro, your thread did turn into something you never intended.  I hope Sarah has brought it back on track.

The self help threads are touchy.  When the one person threatened suicide this spring, she turned off the computer.  It was a couple of days before we found out that her daughter caught her and took her to the hospital.  A lot of people were very concerned for her, but I found it very sad that you look at an internet message board when you are in that much trouble.


Hi Maccascruff ! :D :D :D

Generally, [IMHO], those who turn to the Message Boards when they feel suicidal, do so 'cause they truly feel they are TOTALLY alone in their misery, and have nowhere/no one left to turn to. Personally, tho definitely disturbing, I find it a positive that she felt Macca was a safe place to turn to. To me that meant she felt there were folks there who actually might care. Not a bad thing, really.

I know when I joined, some years ago now, I was feeling pretty damn low & alone. Most folks there were quite friendly and made me feel I had "a place to go to". where I was truly welcome. I miss the way Macca was then. Maybe it can return. Soooooooon, please.

You'd be surprised how many others have turned to their fav. Board when desperate. Macca is certainly not the only place this has happened. Nor will it be the last.

Anyways, I didn't know you were the one being referred to @ Macca as "getting away" with something. You have always seemed to me to be one of the very nice ones. And I certainly don't see how anyone can interpret your posts as malicious. Then again, they removed my last thread for merely inquiring if the then rumour of Paul & Heather splitting was true, [it was confirmed later that day], and what, if anything, Boardies were feeling about it. Go figure.

I think it boils down to personality clashes. For instance I got along fine with HarleyBlues, yet it was almost fatal for her & Beatnut to get together. Yet Beatnut is very nice, [well mostly ;) ] towards me. I made the mistake of trying to calm things between them. NIETHER of them "yelled" at me, but the Mods did. :huh:

Speaking of HarleyB, anyone know how her Nephew is doin' ?
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Jun 8 2006, 03:16 PM
Such a pity because it can be very helpful to have threads on certain sensitive issues - those people in the midst of them know then they are not alone.

I couldn't agree more. I understand the moderators at some places not wanting to feel responsible for people's lives - and, being such a large board, they've had all kinds of things happen there... for example, I know of two suicide attempts by people who have advertised the fact that they were doing it on the Macca board - can't be pleasant.

I do think that it's much more healthy for people to discuss these things and for certain subjects not to be 'taboo'. One of the worst things for people who are victims of things like domestic abuse, self harm (or any of the things which have been deemed 'unsuitable' for discussion there) is for those people to feel as if that subject is somehow shameful. Open discussion is the best thing that can happen for these subjects, especially for the people affected by them. As you so rightly said, people need to know that they are not alone. :)

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But I prefer it all to be out in the open."


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Jun 9 2006, 11:38 AM
And, Pedro, your thread did turn into something you never intended. I hope Sarah has brought it back on track.

I apologise to everyone here for my part in that. :blush:

There are times when I just can't help myself. And I honestly did think a certain someone might have been ready to make amends. I'm naive like that. Sorry! :unsure:
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Jun 9 2006, 11:38 AM
And, Pedro, your thread did turn into something you never intended.  I hope Sarah has brought it back on track.

I apologise to everyone here for my part in that. :blush:

There are times when I just can't help myself. And I honestly did think a certain someone might have been ready to make amends. I'm naive like that. Sorry! :unsure:

Bill you naughty boy. Go to your room and you will not be allowed to have any supper. :lol:
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Jun 9 2006, 02:38 AM
I found it very sad that you look at an internet message board when you are in that much trouble.

Just to pick up on that point, (no critisism to maccascruff) like Little laura said, there are many people out there who for whatever reason don't have a network of support or indeed, any support so the internet can be a Godsend.

I'll give a quick example:
I used to have problems with depression and could find virtually no support at the time. I joined the Macca board last year, find a thread on depression and thought 'Thank God there are other people out there who've experienced it and know what it's like, I don't feel so odd now'.

Yes, it's a sad reflection on society when people have to turn to the internet and messageboards for help but it's better than nothing and problems like depression can be quite isolating.

Sorry, that was not a quick example!
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Jun 9 2006, 04:45 AM
"He said that some things are really best left unspoken
But I prefer it all to be out in the open."


Wrong thread? :)

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Bill, I think that thread is back on track now. :lol:

As for the suicide thread, I didn't mean to criticize that person. But several of us jumped in with an 800 number and then there was nothing. I was actually "on strike" at the time the suicide post was made and looked up the 800 number online and posted it. My only problem was that we didn't know anything for days. Thankfully, that was because the daughter intervened. It is very sad that people turn to message boards and the internet when they feel like this. I don't feel qualified to help somebody who is that desperate and I've walked in those shoes. I would never put all my details out there on the internet. Too much information on public forums isn't good. I leave those things for private messages.
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If someone online came to me and said they were going to end their life I'd look up the police department in their town and get their address and call them and get them help. Some people just don't think they have anyplace else to turn to excpet their friends online.
Getting off topic for a sec:
Last night I was so happy to have some friends from another place were around because I was totally depressed over this guy I like. They helped me calm down and just were great. I wasn't suicidal in any means because I don't believe in that, but I just needed to talk to friends. It was just great to have them around. :)

Okay back to the topic on hand. :)
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Bill
Jun 9 2006, 04:45 AM
"He said that some things are really best left unspoken
But I prefer it all to be out in the open."


Wrong thread?  :)

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Needless to say, if anyone wanted to start a thread about suicide, self-harm or any other 'controversial' subject here, they should feel free. ;)
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Needless to say, if anyone wanted to start a thread about suicide, self-harm or any other 'controversial' subject here, they should feel free. ;)

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This was taken from the 'positive message for FIONA and ANDY' thread at the Macca board, regarding Strawberry Fields - and more specifically us.

Martinput @ The Macca Board
 
I don't see this as a "sides" issue - more that of a natural development.

It is not the first time that a group of like-minded indiviudals have found the neccessary constraints imposed upon this official message board not to their liking and spread their wings elsewhere.

Quite sensibly, rather than earn a reputation for negativity, and all the consequences that taking a position of defiant intransigence inevitably brings, a logical compromise of finding their own home so they can "be themselves" freely has come about.

The birth of that site came about when this board closed briefly but in hindsight that catalyst has brought a greater good.

As this settling-in period comes to a close and members sort out what they want to do, and where, I hope they can look back fondly on the good times here and the time when they realised they had to spread their wings and fly.

Already we have a flood of new members arriving and discovering the work of Paul and the board is settling down to it's real purpose again.

Best wishes to you all and drop in from time to time 

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My response was as follows;

I'm disappointed, but not surprised to read this - the phrase "defiant intransigence" ('intransigence', meaning stubbornly refusing to compromise for those of you who haven't swallowed a dictionary)... that's a rather narrow minded and arrogant thing to say. Once again, this has demonstrated the attitude of those who wield the power here. By making the accusation that people were failing to compromise, what exactly was the compromise? Compromise suggests that people can meet in the middle, whereas all that has been done here is for the moderators to constantly repeat the forum rules and, when people were posting things within the forum rules which the people in charge didn't care for, they simply changed the forum rules to suit their purpose.

You need both parties to make a compromise, Martin, and nobody in charge here likes their judgement, motives or actions challenged. Basically, it's your way or the highway... there's no chance of compromise. Yes, something good came from the thoughtless break in service at the Macca board and, to tell you the truth, I had every intention of remaining a regular here as well, but I have little to no faith in a few people who make the decisions here and the persistent, misguided view of those who consistently believe that they know best and continue to 'tick off' adults like they are children. If you listened half as much as you talked, you'd understand.

As for the majority of your post, which was strongly impaired by that ill-advised paragraph, I think your point was a good one... it just a shame you chose to make it in such a pompous manner.

I wish you all the best, Martin.
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Well done Andy. Nothing more to be said when one has said it as eloquently as you.
You say you want to save humanity but it`s people that you just can`t stand
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I just saw your response. I'll just answer PMs there now. It's not worth it after Martin and his pompous attitude. The only mod who seems to have a brain is no longer a mod.

I couldn't believe what Martin wrote.
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Martin basically used a lot of 50 cent words to say don`t let the door hit you where the good lord split you.
You say you want to save humanity but it`s people that you just can`t stand
John came to me in a dream and this is what he said. "I had a vision of a man on a flaming pie, and he told me that Betsy with a B not Lisa with a L is the biggest fan of mine". John trumps 'the boss' !

I WAS ROBBED BY THAT DEVIL WOMAN

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Jun 19 2006, 07:28 PM
Martin basically used a lot of 50 cent words to say don`t let the door hit you where the good lord split you.

That's about what he said, wasn't it. I'm sure he's glad to see me go. We had some issues since he became a mod.
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Here we go again. :whistle:

Can't we just drop this issue already and move on? Can't both boards exist with each other?
I'm f*cking sick of the drama. I'm dealing with it elsewhere and now I read this? ENOUGH ALREAD!!!! :angry:
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Here we go again. :whistle:

Can't we just drop this issue already and move on? Can't both boards exist with each other?
I'm f*cking sick of the drama. I'm dealing with it elsewhere and now I read this? ENOUGH ALREAD!!!! :angry:

With respect, Molly - as far as I'm concerned, the issue was dropped until one of their moderators decided to make what I consider to be a cheap shot at the people here. Did you even read what Martin wrote before posting that?
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I thought the issue was dropped, too, until Martin brought it up in that pompous post of his. There was no reason for that post. Martin has sent me a few PMs that sounded about like that after I complained about some things. They need a whole new set of mods over there--a rebirth would really help.
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Hey - if they want me & Fi to take over there, they only have to ask. ;) :P
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Here we go again.  :whistle:

Can't we just drop this issue already and move on?  Can't both boards exist with each other? 
I'm f*cking sick of the drama.  I'm dealing with it elsewhere and now I read this?  ENOUGH ALREAD!!!! :angry:

With respect, Molly - as far as I'm concerned, the issue was dropped until one of their moderators decided to make what I consider to be a cheap shot at the people here. Did you even read what Martin wrote before posting that?

I read it, Andy, and I don't think what Martin said was good, but I'm just sick of things right now. I'm just getting sick of internet drama, period. Not just in here. And I'm not the cause of it either.
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I thought the issue was dropped, too, until Martin brought it up in that pompous post of his. There was no reason for that post. Martin has sent me a few PMs that sounded about like that after I complained about some things. They need a whole new set of mods over there--a rebirth would really help.

I hope if they did that, Linda, they wouldn't replace Sarah,. I like Sarah the most of the mods. She's not pompous and IMHO I think she's fair.
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Molly,

If your so tired of it, why do you keep coming to this thread? It's quite easy to ignore this thread if you don't want to hear negativity.

It's like going to a sports bar and bitching that the only thing they talk about is sports.

It's quite obvious that this thread is going to have some venting with all that is going on. You have been complaining on here for awhile now and honestly you know there is going to be complaints, so why keep complaining?
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I read it, Andy, and I don't think what Martin said was good, but I'm just sick of things right now.  I'm just getting sick of internet drama, period.  Not just in here.  And I'm not the cause of it either.

OK, well I have a right to be perturbed about Martin's comments and I also had a right to reply to them. I also reproduced them here just in case they were deleted at the Macca board, which is a possibility.

This may be the internet, but I never lose sight that there are real people out there tapping away at their computers. ;)
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Molly, why is the rest of us can have a discussion about events that are happening that affect our lives and choices of where we wish to be, yet you rant and rave that you have had enough. It works both ways you know.
You say you want to save humanity but it`s people that you just can`t stand
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I thought the issue was dropped, too, until Martin brought it up in that pompous post of his.  There was no reason for that post.  Martin has sent me a few PMs that sounded about like that after I complained about some things.  They need a whole new set of mods over there--a rebirth would really help.

I hope if they did that, Linda, they wouldn't replace Sarah,. I like Sarah the most of the mods. She's not pompous and IMHO I think she's fair.

Sarah is no longer a mod there. Sarah was by far the best one. She could actually think and not have to go to committee or Admin or whoever. She knew how to take action.
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I thought the issue was dropped, too, until Martin brought it up in that pompous post of his.  There was no reason for that post.  Martin has sent me a few PMs that sounded about like that after I complained about some things.  They need a whole new set of mods over there--a rebirth would really help.

I hope if they did that, Linda, they wouldn't replace Sarah,. I like Sarah the most of the mods. She's not pompous and IMHO I think she's fair.

Sarah is no longer a mod there. Sarah was by far the best one. She could actually think and not have to go to committee or Admin or whoever. She knew how to take action.

OMG, no. *sigh* I didn't know that. :cry:
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You don't see her listed as a mod and she gave a little resignation speech.
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HAHAHA! I haven't been there in so long! Hell, this is the first time in weeks that I've even opened this thread! I think it's pathetic that they even feel the need to comment on what I see as water under a burning bridge. I would've never known what was posted if Andy hadn't reposted it here. I have no ill will towards anyone there, I just find this board more jovial, and with more sincere members. And as I'm not a multi-board kinda guy, I'll hang here.
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I've got friends who I can't get to join this board and they PM me there. Otherwise, I wouldn't go there either.
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Here we go again.   :whistle:

Can't we just drop this issue already and move on?  Can't both boards exist with each other? 
I'm f*cking sick of the drama.  I'm dealing with it elsewhere and now I read this?  ENOUGH ALREAD!!!! :angry:

With respect, Molly - as far as I'm concerned, the issue was dropped until one of their moderators decided to make what I consider to be a cheap shot at the people here. Did you even read what Martin wrote before posting that?

I read it, Andy, and I don't think what Martin said was good, but I'm just sick of things right now. I'm just getting sick of internet drama, period. Not just in here. And I'm not the cause of it either.


YOU are the main contributor to 'Internet Drama'.

I think what Andy said was right on the EFFIN mark.


Martinput and others think who the EFF they are because they are Moderators.

Like they think Paul really gives a crap, and is someday going to take them out to dinner for a job well done. Excuse me while I BARF!

So Molly, if it makes you so F***KIN G sick don't read it and don't reply because most people don't give a crap about what you say because it's always the same old sh*t.

Just because you don't like it doesn't mean everyone else doesn't, and it's no reason for you to come along and p*ss on their parade.

The problem is unfortunately when you give people a little bit of authority it goes to their heads and they become Holier than thou. They become power hungry and have to flex their little muscles.

I guess it might be due to the fact that they have nothing else going on, so this makes them feel important.

What a shame. :whistle:
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Molly, why is the rest of us can have a discussion about events that are happening that affect our lives and choices of where we wish to be, yet you rant and rave that you have had enough. It works both ways you know.


If my memory serves me correct, wasn't she the one starting the instigating back and forth on both boards? Now she's sick of the internet drama in which she was the STAR. go figure.
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Martin's remarks seemd rather arrogant and uncalled for. Very disappointing indeed.

You're a class act Andy and your response was right on as usual!
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Well, here's another clue for you all, the Walrus was Paul...
BEATNUT
Jun 19 2006, 09:30 PM
theonlyfab4fan
Jun 20 2006, 01:55 AM
Molly, why is the rest of us can have a discussion about events that are happening that affect our lives and choices of where we wish to be, yet you rant and rave that you have had enough.  It works both ways you know.


If my memory serves me correct, wasn't she the one starting the instigating back and forth on both boards? Now she's sick of the internet drama in which she was the STAR. go figure.

I have to agree with Beatnut (again).
If you don't like the 'drama'...please stop posting on both boards about the so called 'board wars'. It is rather embarassing to read your posts on the PM board like you represent the members of this forum...the only drama is you racing between both boards and endlessly poking and prodding the same tired subject. :poke:

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I agree, Andy put it eloquently and succinctly.

I used to deal with Martin, and I know how he is!

Btw, I don't think SarahF is going for good, just for a while, but she'll be back. She just didn't specify any particular time.


:) Merry


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Well, here's another clue for you all, the Walrus was Paul...
Oh and btw...Andy...I have read your response to Martin...and I agree with it wholeheartedly. You always say the right things...in the right way.

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Thank you Linda, Barb, Rose, Merry, Nutty... and everyone who has given their support. Perhaps the Macca board really is best left to the newbies. :sweet:
...and in the end, the love you take is equal to the love you make.
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JeffLynnesBeard
Jun 20 2006, 03:13 AM
Thank you Linda, Barb, Rose, Merry, Nutty... and everyone who has given their support. Perhaps the Macca board really is best left to the newbies. :sweet:

I'm sorry this is happening.
I enjoy both boards, but haven't been there as long as all of you, so I have no idea what this is all about.

Being on the PM board makes me feel close to Paul~silly I know, but just maybe he reads it every so often.

What a mess~I hate conflict. :(
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Take a sad song, and make it better..."
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Rose
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Well, here's another clue for you all, the Walrus was Paul...
pood for paul
Jun 19 2006, 10:21 PM
Being on the PM board makes me feel close to Paul~silly I know, but just maybe he reads it every so often.

What a mess~I hate conflict.  :(

I am only a member of that board for precisely the same reason. I love Paul. And as long as it remains his 'official' board...I will remain a member.

As for conflict? I'm not too sure what is going on, either...but I get the impression that a lot of it is self-inflicted. :unsure:

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beatlechick
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Amazingly Andy, your post is still there. I guess Martin hasn't gotten up yet to view and kill it. Or should I say, clean it!! :wacko:
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Rose
Jun 20 2006, 04:35 AM
pood for paul
Jun 19 2006, 10:21 PM
Being on the PM board makes me feel close to Paul~silly I know, but just maybe he reads it every so often.

What a mess~I hate conflict.  :(

I am only a member of that board for precisely the same reason. I love Paul. And as long as it remains his 'official' board...I will remain a member.

As for conflict? I'm not too sure what is going on, either...but I get the impression that a lot of it is self-inflicted. :unsure:

I know what you mean, I'll stay there as its the official board - the other sections are still interesting but the TMT section is a shadow of its former self.
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I've always wanted these boards to co-exist and thought this would be a perfect place for people to come when they wanted to deal with the off-topic subjects that the Macca board considered 'too hot to handle' or simply come to a place where the moderating ethic isn't subject to as many constraints. Unfortunately, Martin's 'editorial' wasn't too kind to some people here and it makes it difficult for me to post on the Macca board knowing that people aren't exactly viewing my input there without prejudice.

I've never asked anyone to 'take sides' and am still happy for us to exist side by side - after all, that's the reality... we're both here to stay. I hope people are still able to enjoy both the best of what that message board has to offer and also be an active part of our community here - that would be the win-win situation I'd like to achieve.
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BlueMolly2006
Jun 20 2006, 01:36 AM
Here we go again. :whistle:

Can't we just drop this issue already and move on? Can't both boards exist with each other?
I'm f*cking sick of the drama. I'm dealing with it elsewhere and now I read this? ENOUGH ALREAD!!!! :angry:

May I make a suggestion Molly, if you feel so strongly about this, don't open this thread. No reading this equals no drama for you :D
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Andy, I admire your response to the pompous arse formerly known as Martin! :D

You stated your point eloquently without bringing emotion into it, which, as you know, I have a hard time doing from time to time!! :P

This is just the latest example of why I am so glad that you and Fiona have provided us with this site and we can discuss things in a clear and logical manner.

You rock, dude!!
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maccascruff
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I'm surprised that Andy's post is still there today. I thought it would be removed or we'd here of another warning being issued.

And, yes, Molly, if this thread upsets you so much, just stay away from it.

I find pm.com to be a shadow of it's former self also. There isn't much going on now that the birthday is over. Looking over the thread titles this morning, I don't see much interesting. I will stay a member--unless they ban me. :huh: Doesn't mean I will post there.
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I have no idea what any of you are talking about! :lol: I'm a member of both boards and aside from censorship issues on the Macca board I've not really came up against any difficulties or conflict. Oh well...you must all know something that I don't, but I don't really wanna get involved anyway, so I'm just gonna go away now... :whistle:
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Terrific post, Andy. Martin's message was arrogant and insulting.
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maccascruff
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It was arrogant and insulting and totally uncalled for.
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Thanks Tim, Patty and everyone else for your kind words. :)
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maccascruff
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Is that what it feels like, Olen?
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I agree with Olen, that's how I feel over there,too. But, your little animation, while correct, makes me wince. Perhaps, it's because it's repetative. Still, IF I go over to PM.com, they are rather hostile, & make me feel unwanted. I have to say that there were a number of self-righteous members who felt the influx due to the seal hunt were "trolls", & were not wanted. I thought that I had posted a number of reasonable, level-headed statements in regards to the subject, but kept being told that I was a murdering Canadian. I got tired of beating my head against the wall, & when I go there now, I go to check out what Paul himself has posted. I'm disappointed in a lot of what has happened over there, but then, we wouldn't have this great place!
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maccascruff
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Good observation about us not having this place if all that went down over there hadn't happened. Many of you don't know the worst of it either unless you've read all the threads on this board where we can speak our minds.

I stayed out of the seal threads after making a couple of comments that I felt the seal hunts should be stopped. I still feel that way, as a committed vegetarian and animal rights person.
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JeffLynnesBeard
Jun 20 2006, 03:13 AM
Thank you Linda, Barb, Rose, Merry, Nutty... and everyone who has given their support. Perhaps the Macca board really is best left to the newbies. :sweet:

I disagree with leaving it to the newbies (you knew I'd disagree with you Andy :D ). Many of the posters here put there heart and sole into that group. Personally I have written a letter to mpl complaining about that board (and the Linda McCartney group) and the way they are moderated. maybe we all should put are complaints in writing to a higher source.
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