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Are You A Vegetarian?; Veggie Chat
Topic Started: May 7 2006, 05:45 AM (2,108 Views)
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Are you a vegetarian? If so, how long have you been a veggie and what made you go veggie in the first place? :)
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In principle I am certainly a vegan. However, my body decided to develop problems with soya products so I have no choice but to eat Quorn and some Linda McCartney products occasionally.

I don't drink milk or eat eggs under any circumstances although I admit that I wear a few OLD leather items I already owned before I went vegan: ONE bag, 4 belts and ONE pair of shoes that I wear for work (I used to wear them for school).

I do wear cashmere but I make sure the animals are well treated by contacting the company's head office and discussing their ethical policy.

To be honest, I can't eat meat any more anyway. The last time I tried it (last year) I had stomach problems for 3 days and I know it was the meat that caused it (and it was not food poisoning).

It is not natural to eat meat; if it was, why do we have to cook it? I know some people will say potatoes and rice , etc also need to be cooked but you can get by without them. I had a faddy friend who tried a raw food diet...
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I have a leather wallet given to me by my Dad one Christmas and, since he's died, I just can't bear to part with it, even though I'm opposed in principal to leather. I also have to wear leather work shoes as the manufacturers of our safety shoes do not have any 'man made' alternatives.

I guess you can only really do your best - every little thing makes a difference.
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I am a ovo-vegetarian, and have been for nearly eighteen years. I try to avoid leather and fur, but as Andy and Lauren pointed out, sometimes it just isn't possible.

The biggest problem I encounter is people's attitudes towards the fact that I am not raising my child as a vegetarian. I won't go into some of their arguments here as I feel that it is pointless and I will raise my child however I see fit, however if anyone else has an issue like this, I'd like to know how you deal/have dealt with it.
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I'm not sure... both my girls eat meat and fish and I have no complaints about their mother feeding them good quality meat, but when Fiona and I finally start a family together (in a long time), we're sure that our child will be raised a veggie. I know you have to be very careful with nutrition and it would be something that would have to be well-researched, but I wouldn't condemn anyone for feeding their children meat if it was their personal choice and they felt as if they were doing the right thing for the sake of their children's health.
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I am a vegetarian and have been a committed veggie for about 6 or so years now. It was a tough change in my life having been brought up in the part of the US where all of my family raises pigs and cows. I get very tired of explaining what it is I do it. I have no problems coming up with interesting meals. I was raised on meat and potatoes and gravy every evening and know that is what led to my health problems in 1999. It is because of that surgery that I had no choice but to stop eating meat. Eating meat can kill ME. I'm not saying that is true for everyone, but it almost did kill me. So, I do not eat meat ever.
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I have to say I'm not a vegetarian nor do I see myself becoming one in the near future. I guess I need to take *Baby Steps* towards eating how the body was designed to accept food. I do want to quit eating meat to maybe once a week and fill in the rest of the week with fish and veggies. We eat pig that has been raised organically........and only organic food, gets to run around on a fun pig farm..........I only have access to purchasing ham once a year from them at a hefty price of $149.00 for a full ham, not counting shipping. The rest of the meat we purchase doesn't have growth hormones either and it too is more expensive.

I hope within a year we will have adjusted to less meat and be ready to eating meat for the holidays only. Then move on from there.

I just don't see myself totally giving it up. But I'm working towards being as close to a vegetarian as one can be. The way the animals are treated and slaughtered should be enough to make one give up meat eating.

My hats off to all of you have converted to eating healthy.

{{Claire}} I wouldn't bother answering anyone who gives you a hard time about your daughter eating meat and eggs. It's none of their business and I would remind them YOU are her Mother.
And Happy Mother's Day to you.


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Hey, Wasn't *LOOKING FOR CHANGES*, someone who was very disruptive on the board about

the animal rights, about the seals.............We thought that was Heather.......was it Fiona or Andy?

Just curious.

PEACE and love to my friends, Judy

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Hey, Wasn't *LOOKING FOR CHANGES*, someone who was very disruptive on the board about

the animal rights, about the seals.............We thought that was Heather.......was it Fiona or Andy?

Just curious.

I am not a vegetarian but have cut back on meat consumption for myself. Its hard when you cook for family that still want the meat products. My husband is used to all sorts of meat dishes since he was raised by a butcher and they were obsessed with meat in their family.

I applaud all of you who are vegetarians. I'm sure you are a lot healthier than I am!

(((Judy))) We had a lot of fun trying to guess who LOOKING FOR CHANGES was, didn't we :D
I still have someone that I think he might be. Does anyone around this board know who it is??? Do you know,(((Andy)))????? :D
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Sorry, meat eater here. Give me a rare prime rib and I am a happy person. Could never go veggie as I couldn't imagine a world without bacon.
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{{Claire}} I wouldn't bother answering anyone who gives you a hard time about your daughter eating meat and eggs. It's none of their business and I would remind them YOU are her Mother.
And Happy Mother's Day to you.


Judy

Aw, thanks Judy! My little girl is a very fussy eater and if I tried to convert her diet to please me or anyone else, she wouldn't eat at all! That said, she is also a very healthy little girl and I hope that she will make her own decision regarding her diet when she is older. :)
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May 8 2006, 02:54 PM
Hey, Wasn't *LOOKING FOR CHANGES*, someone who was very disruptive on the board about

the animal rights, about the seals.............We thought that was Heather.......was it Fiona or Andy?

Just curious.

I am not a vegetarian but have cut back on meat consumption for myself. Its hard when you cook for family that still want the meat products. My husband is used to all sorts of meat dishes since he was raised by a butcher and they were obsessed with meat in their family.

I applaud all of you who are vegetarians. I'm sure you are a lot healthier than I am!

(((Judy))) We had a lot of fun trying to guess who LOOKING FOR CHANGES was, didn't we :D
I still have someone that I think he might be. Does anyone around this board know who it is??? Do you know,(((Andy)))????? :D

Did you and Judy think "Looking For Changes" on the Macca board was me? :P

I must admit that I was struggling to think of anything else to call the veggie/enviromentalism/animal rights thread other than that... I didn't want to copy the Macca board and call it Cosmically Conscious, naturally. ;)
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May 10 2006, 06:27 AM
Sorry, meat eater here. Give me a rare prime rib and I am a happy person. Could never go veggie as I couldn't imagine a world without bacon.

I'll let you into a secret - and I don't tell this to people often. I've been a Veggie for around 18 months and I still miss bacon and fried chicken... but only when I smell it or if I see someone else tucking in.

There, I've said it. :P

I'd never eat it again, but it doesn't stop me drooling slightly when someone else eats it. ;)

I'm not even sure I'd enjoy it now... your body and tastes change when you've been a vegetarian for a long time.

I respect people's choices and if people choose to eat meat then that's fine with me, it's just my own personal choice not to. :)
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Im not a Vegetarian. But I have alot of respect for those who are. I try to eat a good balance of everything, but becoming Veggie really isn't an option for me right now, but down the track.. who knows?
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Well, it can happen. :)

I was veggie for around a year when I was aged 17-18, but I was forced to eat meat again when I moved back in with my parents and they refused to buy me seperate food or allow me to buy my own food. :rolleyes:

I carried on eating meat for years and, I'm almost ashamed to admit, I really loved meat for the best part of those years and there would have been times when I was tucking into my favourite food when I'd declare that I could never go veggie again... but I changed. I started disliking a lot of meat and actually realising exactly what it was when I was eating it.

I decided to go veggie in November 2004 and slowly made the change until I went meatless on December 26th, 2004 and then fishless in late January, 2005. I carried on eating fish for a month just to help me make the transition.

The next step is vegan, but I don't think I will ever make that step... but, hey, I said that about vegetarianism a long time ago, so who knows? I just know that, in my heart, vegetarianism makes sense for so many reasons and I would never be a meat eater again. ;)
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Hey, Wasn't *LOOKING FOR CHANGES*, someone who was very disruptive on the board about

the animal rights, about the seals.............We thought that was Heather.......was it Fiona or Andy?

Just curious.

I am not a vegetarian but have cut back on meat consumption for myself. Its hard when you cook for family that still want the meat products. My husband is used to all sorts of meat dishes since he was raised by a butcher and they were obsessed with meat in their family.

I applaud all of you who are vegetarians. I'm sure you are a lot healthier than I am!

(((Judy))) We had a lot of fun trying to guess who LOOKING FOR CHANGES was, didn't we :D
I still have someone that I think he might be. Does anyone around this board know who it is??? Do you know,(((Andy)))????? :D

Did you and Judy think "Looking For Changes" on the Macca board was me? :P

I must admit that I was struggling to think of anything else to call the veggie/enviromentalism/animal rights thread other than that... I didn't want to copy the Macca board and call it Cosmically Conscious, naturally. ;)

No, no, (((Andy))), I don't think that it was you but thought you might know who it was since he's from the UK. Neither Judy or I thought it was you, don't worry :P
I thought maybe it was Paul at first, just trying to shake things up, but changed my mind when he got so confrontational. I do have an idea of someone I think he might be, though, and wish I could find out for sure. :unsure:
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I doubt I could ever go vegan either, but I, too, used to say that about being veggie.

The smell of bacon is the only meat cooking that smells good to me. All the rest of it makes me sick.
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No, I'm neither vegan or veggie.

I don't eat a great deal of meat, but for me it's too expensive to be able to buy all the foods that are staples for those diets. The cost of vegetables alone has gone way up, and anything on the shelves for vegetarian's is at least twice as highly priced as other things.

I do try to monitor my intake of meat, and keep it down...but at the moment I'm on a rather limited budget and just can't afford those things.

Maybe one day in the future I may!

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I'll let you into a secret - and I don't tell this to people often.  I've been a Veggie for around 18 months and I still miss bacon and fried chicken... but only when I smell it or if I see someone else tucking in. 

There, I've said it.  :P

I'd never eat it again, but it doesn't stop me drooling slightly when someone else eats it.  ;)

I'm not even sure I'd enjoy it now... your body and tastes change when you've been a vegetarian for a long time.

I respect people's choices and if people choose to eat meat then that's fine with me, it's just my own personal choice not to.  :)

If they could just come up with a veggie bacon that smells and taste like the real thing I could do it.
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Quorn bacon is pretty damn near the real thing... it has the taste and the smell - but not the texture. Still, as (ironically) Meat Loaf sang, 'Two Out Of Three Aint Bad'. :P
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Please tell me, just what IS "Quorn" ?

I know this is ridiculous, but it sounds like some sort of hedgehog to me! :lol:

Is it soy based? I've never heard of it over here in the states.

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May 10 2006, 08:54 PM
Please tell me, just what IS "Quorn" ?

I know this is ridiculous, but it sounds like some sort of hedgehog to me! :lol:

Is it soy based? I've never heard of it over here in the states.

:) Merry

It's a food made from cultured mycoprotein , sort of a fungus (sounds appetising, right? :P ) - the nearest equivilent is a mushroom, but genetically it's quite different. There are different things added to it, notably egg to make it into 'Quorn'. It's very versatile and can be fashioned in many different ways, to resemble different meats, so it's basically a meat substitute and full of protein.

It makes being a vegetarian so much easier if you like Quorn, as (in my opinion) it much nicer and much more versatile than tofu. ^_^
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Thank you for your patient explaination, Andy...I hate to seem ignorant, but I've honestly never heard of it or seen it before.

It doesn't sound the greatest, but I DO like mushrooms, so I think I could probably get used to it. ;) Can it be molded into any shape that you want it to be once it is mixed with egg?

I've never seen it at any of the stores that I've been to...it must be sold exclusively in health food stores, I'll have to look out for it sometime.

That reminds me of a topic that used to come up at the Ryan Stiles forum alot, about "Marmalite" and how it is an aquired taste! :lol: Actually I like strange things (like uncooked pie dough), so it probably would appeal to me, too!

:) Merry


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May 10 2006, 09:36 PM
Thank you for your patient explaination, Andy...I hate to seem ignorant, but I've honestly never heard of it or seen it before.

It doesn't sound the greatest, but I DO like mushrooms, so I think I could probably get used to it. ;) Can it be molded into any shape that you want it to be once it is mixed with egg?

I've never seen it at any of the stores that I've been to...it must be sold exclusively in health food stores, I'll have to look out for it sometime.

That reminds me of a topic that used to come up at the Ryan Stiles forum alot, about "Marmalite" and how it is an aquired taste! :lol: Actually I like strange things (like uncooked pie dough), so it probably would appeal to me, too!

:) Merry

It's very nice - a great 'base' to add spices, coatings, anything. They make bacon, burgers, cottage pies, mince, fillets, escalopes, lasagne, chilli, sausages, roast 'chicken' joints... almost everything you can think of from it... but not fish. They haven't quite worked out Quorn fish yet. :P

It's a lot lighter than meat, so you tend to feel less bloated after a meal. 'Quorn' is very popular in the UK and readily available in most supermarkets, but in the U.S., I think it's not so easily found. I know 'Whole Foods' stock it, but other than that, I'm not sure.

Most meat-eaters I know who have tried it have liked it, if that's any kind of a recommendation. It's hard to recommend food - you either like it or you don't! ^_^
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It sounds very interesting, I'll really have to look for it, but I honestly have never seen it or any foods made from it.

I'd tried soy before and found it pretty nasty, not something I'd care to eat on a regular basis.

But I'll take your recommendation and see if I can find out about where it might be sold around here. Probably in the more elite areas! ;)

:) Merry


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Merry, here Quorn is a brand of vegetarian food. It isn't what Andy described.
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I just made the best veggie soup! Carrots, broccoli, zucchini, potato, celery, bit of veggie stock and whizz it up in the blender - easy peasy!
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I had to go to the store last night, so while I was there I looked all over for any of the "Quorn" products, and couldn't find a single one! :(

I also checked on the net to find out about it, it's quite popular in Britain and Europe, but I couldn't locate one store that carries it over here. I found a load of recipes for it, though, and the photos of the finished meals looked very appetizing!

All I found in my store were soy-based products.

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Merry, here Quorn is a brand of vegetarian food. It isn't what Andy described.

Yes it is. It's exactly the same thing. ;)
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Quorn is a brand of frozen foods. Is that what it is in the UK? I buy Quorn "turkey", etc. They are frozen foods. I also buy textured vegetable protien and use it in recipes. I found that in one of Linda's cook books and can buy it here at the grocery store. We also have Whole Foods and Wild Oats, two of the largest natural food chains in the US.

The Quorn frozen foods are soy based, as is the TVP, I believe. But you flavor it and it tastes great.
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I guess our health food sections aren't as extensive as yours are. My son and I both scoured the aisles, looking in the frozen foods as well as the vegetable aisles where they have some mushroom and soy-based items, but we couldn't find anything under those brands or referring to anything made of Quorn.

I didn't even see any soy for sale, I'm assuming it didn't sell very well around here.

Next time I go to the store, I'll also swing by another chain and see if I can find anything related to them there.

I'd bought soy several years ago and tried to use it in a recipe, but it just didn't do anything for me flavor-wise, I didn't really care for it.

:) Merry


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Merry, have you heard of this health food store, Good Food East? I just Googled health food stores in Detroit, MI and went to a site that had this in their listings.
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I guess our health food sections aren't as extensive as yours are. My son and I both scoured the aisles, looking in the frozen foods as well as the vegetable aisles where they have some mushroom and soy-based items, but we couldn't find anything under those brands or referring to anything made of Quorn.

I didn't even see any soy for sale, I'm assuming it didn't sell very well around here.

Next time I go to the store, I'll also swing by another chain and see if I can find anything related to them there.

I'd bought soy several years ago and tried to use it in a recipe, but it just didn't do anything for me flavor-wise, I didn't really care for it.

:) Merry

Hi, Merry!

I guess you know enough about Quorn now to know where to look but, as Molly said, you might have to go out of your way slightly to find it. I like the fact that the UK's supermarkets combine every kind of food imaginable but here (at least in California) one has to visit a different kind of store for organic, healthy, vegetarian, natural products. We go to the other mainstream stores for things like Ziploc bags and Kraft cheese. :P There also isn't as much of a choice, I've found, even in Whole Foods and Trader Joe's, etc. but things like that can vary a lot from state to state.

Well, good luck in that department! :)
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Well, in answer to your original question, Mr. JLB Sir... ^_^

I went veggie when I was about 13 or 14, when I was just starting to learn who I was. I was a new Beatles fan and having a grand old time getting the teenybopper and hippie stuff out of my system. I'd heard some of the things Paul and Linda had said about their lifestyle and it really hit me. I adore all animals, why would I want to eat them? It wasn't planned but that was basically how simple it was. I have to be honest and count out a small period of time when I was about that same age and accidentally ate meat, which lead to a break in my vegetarianism, but I have been a serious herbivore for many years now and have never looked back or regretted it for a moment. It is one of the best and most natural things I have ever chosen to do.
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Thank you Molly and Fiona for trying to help me out!

I'd never heard of "Good Food East", but I just did a Google on their locations and now I know why, they're located on the western side of the state, those people must live healthier lifestyles! :lol:

Here's a quick overview of what I found...I still can't find one within the Metro Detroit area...! :(

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=Good+...G=Google+Search

Those listed are either west or southwest of here at a pretty good distance. I'm surprised, too, because there are more affluent (and I would assume more health-minded) people in areas closer to me, too.

I'll keep hunting around, thank you! :D

:) Merry


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May 10 2006, 01:39 PM
No, I'm neither vegan or veggie.

I don't eat a great deal of meat, but for me it's too expensive to be able to buy all the foods that are staples for those diets. The cost of vegetables alone has gone way up, and anything on the shelves for vegetarian's is at least twice as highly priced as other things.

I do try to monitor my intake of meat, and keep it down...but at the moment I'm on a rather limited budget and just can't afford those things.

Maybe one day in the future I may!

:) Merry

Hi Merry,
I would think that eating meat would be MORE expensive than what us veggies eat!! The only thing that I buy that I would consider special "veggie foods" are pre-packaged frozen veggie burgers. My local discount store has them for about $2.50 for a pack of 4. I have one for lunch every day in a pita with mozzarella cheese. My coworkers probably think I'm crazy for eating the same thing for lunch every day, but I never get tired of that. Add yogurt and some fruit and I have an inexpensive and healthy lunch.

I can make a pot of homemade split pea soup for about $2.00 and get several meals from it. Add a salad and some good bread and that's a meal for me!!

Also pasta is a very inexpensive veggie meal.

My soy milk is usually cheaper than regular milk, since there are usually coupons for it, which my grocery store doubles.

There really isn't a need to buy the high priced special veggie foods!! :)
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Hello Nancy, thank you for the tips...I may just look into them! You know, around this area soy based foods are expensive, even more so than meats for some reason.

I don't often buy any meat to cook, I just buy canned goods, vegetables and the occassional frozen meal. So, going meatless isn't really all that hard for me.

Your suggestion for a veggie burger does sound good, though...I could have that as a main meal! :D

I do love pasta and have it frequently, as well as soup...I just love green pea and bean soups, and I agree, homemade are the best!

I guess that makes me a semi-vegetarian, anyway! ;)


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I guess because of where I live, organic (which I don't buy because of cost) and vegetarian foods are sold at the grocery store just two blocks from me. My vegetarian baked beans are right in the aisle with all the other baked beans and when the brand is on sale, so are the veggie beans.

I eat lots of pasta, too, and it is quite inexpensive. I haven't found going veggie to be any more expensive than eating meat.
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For a while I was, and then I stopped. Then I started again, and then I stopped again. Right now I'm not, usually it leads to problems for me, but I'm getting those all worked out at the moment, so maybe in the future it will spark my interest again after I'm ready.
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I'll have to admit since my first post here, my taste for meat has really cut back. I went to the web site that Heather is going to be giving an award for the middle of the month for animal rights. They had a bunch of short clips on the cruelty of animals and you couldn't help but cry watching it. My husband was picking up a steak sandwich for lunch. When he came home, I took a bite and was gagging. I couldn't eat it. I ended up eating the grilled onions and bread, lol. And in the past 3 days I've only had some ham that was organically raised and costed a fortune but I'll be thinking twice next Easter. So I see myself coming over sooner than I thought. Besides it will be better for me health wise.

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It will be better for you health wise, Judy. I can attest to that. Thinking about eating meat makes me gag now. I went veggie in one leap and have never looked back.
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I'll have to admit since my first post here, my taste for meat has really cut back. I went to the web site that Heather is going to be giving an award for the middle of the month for animal rights. They had a bunch of short clips on the cruelty of animals and you couldn't help but cry watching it. My husband was picking up a steak sandwich for lunch. When he came home, I took a bite and was gagging. I couldn't eat it. I ended up eating the grilled onions and bread, lol. And in the past 3 days I've only had some ham that was organically raised and costed a fortune but I'll be thinking twice next Easter. So I see myself coming over sooner than I thought. Besides it will be better for me health wise.

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This sounds very promising, Judy. :) I don't think you'll have any regrets.
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Are you a vegetarian? If so, how long have you been a veggie and what made you go veggie in the first place? :)

no but im getting there-my hubby is one
his ma and pa are also-im getting there sooner pr later ;)
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Are you a vegetarian? If so, how long have you been a veggie and what made you go veggie in the first place? :)

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I'm a vegetarian, been one for a year now.
I've always thought that eating animals were somewhat wrong ever since I was a kid, but it wasn't until a year ago that I finally said stop. I had actually decided to become one before that, but I didn't tell my parents, I just ate as little meat as possible until I couldn't take it anymore. I remember it, we had chicken, and it had legs and everything, and that's when I said that I couldn't eat meat again. At first they thought it was a "thing" that would eventually go over, but they do support me now as they see that I'm not going back, and my mom actually makes me dinner every day, even though she said she wouldn't at first
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Hi. I'm not a vegetarian yet, but I am trying to become one.

My decision was due to ethics and health.
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It can be done in small steps if necessary. One of the major causes of colon cancer is eating red meat. Once you've been there, you change your diet. I can't eat meat if I want to--it now makes me sick. Up until most of my colon was removed, I could and did eat meat. So, I got the big time wake up call. I chose life, but it's up to you and I won't preach at you.
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My son was showing more links to make you disgusted with eating meat, eggs, milk..... I haven't had eggs in 3 days, where I would have them for breakfast everyday. I can't eat beef at all. I just keep picturing the animals being treated cruelly. I need to find the egg substitute and give soy milk a try. I enjoy drinking skim milk so I need to find a replacement in flavor. Does soy milk taste terrible? I really don't want to drink vanilla or chocolate soy milk. The milk we get is drug free but I what are their living conditions like. I just assume give it up.

I know this isn't going to change the way animals are treated but I want no part of the animals treatment on my conscience.

What about cheeses, sour cream, etc., do vegetarians eat these? As they still come from cows, goats, being treated cruelly.


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Vegetarians still eat dairy, but vegans do not. Both Fiona and I are vegetarians and so still eat milk, cheese, eggs, etc. but we source our food from the most ethical places possible - that's about the best you can do without cutting dairy out completely. I dislike soy milk and vegan cheese I detest! Maybe we'll go vegan one day, but we have no immediate plans. ^_^
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I've been a veggie on and off for 32 years. I have not eaten red meat in all that time. I am back on again and plan to stay that way. My 15 year old daughter converted about 3 months ago. I am not raising my kids veggie,but they eat what I cook and for the most part it is vegetarian (my husband is a meat and spuds guy so I have to respect his choice). In my mind it is their choice to make when they are old enough. All I can do is show them my way and let them take it from there.

As for eating veg, my suggestion to all those looking to convert is get cookbooks. There are so many wonderful, inexpensive, easy, healthy and satisfying recipes that converting is much easier than you think. The new crop of soy and Quorn products are so tasty and of such high quality that you can cook a meal and even fool a meat eater. They are not any more expensive than meat if you really take the time to compare price, pound for pound.

Go Judy!!! You can do it. I do eat dairy but my eggs are only cage free and I try my best to find cheese,etc that has been produced by ethical farms.
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It will be 5 years this fall that I'm a vegetarian. Best decision I've ever made. :) I'm working on veganism. I do my best to buy products which aren't tested on animals, organic dairy products from time to time... I drink soy milk as well. I guess you could call me a strict vegetarian/bad vegan. But I'm working on it.
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I'm a vegetarian, I have been since I was 4 and I went that way because mum told me where meat came from and from that moment on, I never ate it again
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I´m macrobiotic.

What exactly is macrobiotic?
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I´m macrobiotic.

What exactly is macrobiotic?

it is a lifestyle that incorporates a dietary regime. Low-fat, high-fibre diet of whole grains, vegetables, sea algae, and seeds, that are prepared in accordance with specific principles; said to synchronise eating habits with the cycles of nature.

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Has anyone here had people say to them "you'll never survive not eating meat"? I have and it's like erm well i'm here and I don't eat meat so obviously i'm surviving :lol:
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Well I'm actually a vegan. I've been vegetarian since January of this year and vegan for about a month. It's going really well, and I can't see myself ever going back to eating meat, yuck! It was kind of a New Year's resolution, something I'd been thinking about doing for a while. I did it for ethical reasons. I've noticed that quite a few of Paul's fans are vegetarians - he certainly does a lot to raise awareness about the issue - there's so many things I wouldn't have known or thought about if it hadn't been for Paul!
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"I don't eat anything that casts a shadow."

Really? That's a shame; bus stop poles are actually quite tasty. :P :lol:
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Really? That's a shame; bus stop poles are actually quite tasty. :P :lol:

I have heard that, but I think it is more of a Canadien thing.
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Has anyone here had people say to them "you'll never survive not eating meat"? I have and it's like erm well i'm here and I don't eat meat so obviously i'm surviving :lol:

I have been told that. I find that theory a little peculiar since I have never eaten animals and I grew up and remain very healthy.
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Has anyone here had people say to them "you'll never survive not eating meat"? I have and it's like erm well i'm here and I don't eat meat so obviously i'm surviving :lol:

Whenever I visit my relatives, I get asked this question. I pretty much tell them I'm doing quite fine without eating meat. Wouldn't have it any other way.
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I always get asked about my protein and iron intake because I'm vegetarian. To combat this and ward off any queries, I bought a giant bucket of Whey Protein powder (the stuff that you can make into milkshakes) and a jar of iron pills. If I'm having meat eating guests over, I put these items in conspicuous positions so they think I'm getting my protein and iron.

I haven't touched either of them.
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Sometimes I still eat fish/seafood; but I wanna be a full-stop veggie by the end of the year... I have to set myself targets; one year ago I stopped eating red meat; a few months later I did also stop chicken and things like that; now I only need to get rid of the fish (and I`m constantly trying to eat less and less of it) and I`ll be a proud veggie... but I know I could never go vegan, cos I don`t really see the point in it...
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I'm afraid unless health makes me, I could never go vegan. I really like milk.

When I first went veggie, I had issues with anemia and did have to take iron supplements. Now, I have too much iron and have been told to stop taking them as my iron is about three times normal. My protein is fine, too. My doctors are happy with my diet. They are the ones who told me to stop eating meat.
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I am vegetarian and proud of it ! I can't remember how long it's been...most of my life, at least. I just feel better when I do not eat meat. I am opposed to eating animal flesh in any form. I love cooking with veggies, they are so versitile. I like to think Paul and Linda helped me to make the final push and become completely vegetarian. Linda certainly made it easier for all of us by publishing her cookbooks, and waving the veggie banner. It made it much easier for all of us vegetarians to come out of the closet!
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I'm attempting,I have lasted 2 days so far :D

Although my family keep offering me meat just to annoy me.(when I told my mum she looked really disapointed but thats her problem)
I have discovered though that I actually prefer the Linda McCartney sausages to meat sausages. oh and that food suitable for vegetarians is hard to get at Edinburgh airport
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I'm not sure... both my girls eat meat and fish and I have no complaints about their mother feeding them good quality meat, but when Fiona and I finally start a family together (in a long time), we're sure that our child will be raised a veggie. I know you have to be very careful with nutrition and it would be something that would have to be well-researched, but I wouldn't condemn anyone for feeding their children meat if it was their personal choice and they felt as if they were doing the right thing for the sake of their children's health.

I didn't know you had kids, Andy!


I was a vegetarian for about a year, and I started getting really sick and I appeared to be incredibly malnourished. Plus the fact, that it was a bit of a burden on my Mom, because she always had to figure out what to feed me...

So I went back to eating it. I can't say I'm for it, I'm pretty against it, but at this stage of my life, I think my health is more important. I'll definitely try it again when I'm a bit older.

As far as fur and leather products, I pretty much steer clear...because I see no reason for that whatsoever. For food, it's a bit more acceptable (in my mind anyway).
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I'm not sure... both my girls eat meat and fish and I have no complaints about their mother feeding them good quality meat, but when Fiona and I finally start a family together (in a long time), we're sure that our child will be raised a veggie.  I know you have to be very careful with nutrition and it would be something that would have to be well-researched, but I wouldn't condemn anyone for feeding their children meat if it was their personal choice and they felt as if they were doing the right thing for the sake of their children's health.

I didn't know you had kids, Andy!


I was a vegetarian for about a year, and I started getting really sick and I appeared to be incredibly malnourished. Plus the fact, that it was a bit of a burden on my Mom, because she always had to figure out what to feed me...

So I went back to eating it. I can't say I'm for it, I'm pretty against it, but at this stage of my life, I think my health is more important. I'll definitely try it again when I'm a bit older.

As far as fur and leather products, I pretty much steer clear...because I see no reason for that whatsoever. For food, it's a bit more acceptable (in my mind anyway).

Yeah, I went veggie for a little while - and I really liked it.. didn't seem like a struggle to me at all. My health wasn't an issue, but like you - it was becoming a bit stressful on Mum, she had to buy seperate foods for me and in the end I don't think it was worth it. Maybe i'll take it up when I leave home.. who knows.
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I didn't know you had kids, Andy!


I was a vegetarian for about a year, and I started getting really sick and I appeared to be incredibly malnourished. Plus the fact, that it was a bit of a burden on my Mom, because she always had to figure out what to feed me...

So I went back to eating it. I can't say I'm for it, I'm pretty against it, but at this stage of my life, I think my health is more important. I'll definitely try it again when I'm a bit older.

As far as fur and leather products, I pretty much steer clear...because I see no reason for that whatsoever. For food, it's a bit more acceptable (in my mind anyway).

Vegetarianism should never lead to anyone being ill or malnourished! There is nothing that meat can provide that vegetarianism can't. It just takes a little thought about what foods provide what nutrients and make sure you get a healthy balance. Any reasonably qualified doctor or dietician will confirm that there are, with very few exceptions, no health or nutritional risks in being a vegetarian. ;)
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yeah, i know. but it was just hard...like my mom didn't know what to fix me, and usually the stuff i needed to eat, couldn't be found in the house. so i'd end up eating unbalanced meals.


my mom was a vegetarian when she was pregnant for me, and she was really malnourished (not good!) but i'm okay. :D i came out healthy and strong!
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Yes, I think you turned out just fine! ^_^ And good luck in the future, if you choose to give it another try. Just remember, you can most certainly be a malnourished meat-eater, too! It's all in how you do it.
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OK so I've been Veggie for a month now.And I'm doing well.Not having meat cravings or anything.I can even cook the stuff and I just dont want to eat it but now one of my friends has fallen out with me over it :huh:

We were making breakfast because I was staying at hers and she was cooking bacon and my linda McCartney sausages.Anyway I said 'your not using the same spatula are you' and she got in a huff

Now is it just me or is that not common sense and totally defeat the object of me not eating meat.Shes not spoken to me since Saturday apart from to say she was p*ssed off with my eating habits.She threw me out of her house.Which the logic
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I agree that it kind of defeats the purpose but she probably doesn't understand that and feels that her cooking was unappreciated. I do think it's a petty thing to get in a huff about but maybe you really need to explain to her why you want to avoid meat altogether.

She wouldn't use the same spatula if you were allergic to meat or if your religion forbid you to eat it, would she? Well, if touching meat will make you feel sick and if you believe deep down that eating meat is not the right thing to do... those reasons are just as valid, are they not? I would say she just needs a friendly explanation of why, though she may never fully understand, it is is important to you, her friend, and there's nothing wrong with being considerate of that.
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yeah thanks cool advice but everytime I go near her she does a runner so its difficult.Her attitudes on vegetarians have always been a little suspect 'I dont get them' is what I've heard her say a lot and way before I became one.
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I looked on here for thread, but all I saw were recipes's and such.
I'm actually considering in becoming a Vegetarian..i'm just abit clueless.
So perhaps maybe those who are.. can help?

I have so many questions, but i'm sort of rather scared to ask them.
Considering my comment in the "I am a meat eater" thread was rather noobish.

So come one.. come all.. fill my head with tips, facts an the like. I'm all ears.
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I've merged your thread into this one, Liz, as it's a general 'veggie chat' thread that you were possibly looking for.
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Hi Liz

my advice to you would be to do it gradually. You can start by adding to your diet instead of removing. Start having more vegetables, fruits, nuts & seeds, lentils and so on... and little by little, try having less and less animal products.
No one was born ready to do everything, and it is not a shame to ask questions, even if you think they might be silly. I bought a book when I started with vegetarianism, it might seem daft but hey, you need to know what to do in order to not starve yourself or something. I do a bit of reading almost every day, in books and on the internet. You can find so much information online, it only takes a second to type in "vegetarian" in google.
Whatever you need to ask just ask. I'm sure all the veggies here will offer their help.
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Kink :hug: thank you SO much for your advice. It really helped!
Also, been looking things up on the internet as well, and probably will be heading to the library today to look up some more things. ^_^ Thanks again!
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Everyone should do whatever works best for them. I went cold turkey - can we still say that? - and I've never felt better.
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I am seriously considering becoming a vegatarian. The problem with me is that I'm not sure if I could stop eating chicken. I could do without red meat though.
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Everyone should do whatever works best for them. I went cold turkey - can we still say that? - and I've never felt better.

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Everyone should do whatever works best for them. I went cold turkey - can we still say that? - and I've never felt better.

That is how I did it, too.
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I am seriously considering becoming a vegatarian. The problem with me is that I'm not sure if I could stop eating chicken. I could do without red meat though.

Cut everything out but the chicken. It's a start and a good one. There is actually a term for people that don't eat red meat, flexitarian. Maybe you could start to then limit your chicken to a certain amount of times a week and see how it goes. There are no rules in how you choose to eat. As Rev Dave says, do whats best for you.
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im not a veggie but my dad is and i eat alot of veggie stuff because i dont really like or dont want to eat meat i think eating lamb is soo wrong! And i just really hate eatin dry chicken! :sick:
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just read over a bit of this thread again,something rather amused and confused me about some comments but oh well.

I'm so glad that Paul Mac (and yes even HM) has started to say being a veggie is good for the environment, coz that was one of the fundamental reasons I went veggie, yes I love animals but the environment in general is my big thing really, however whilst trying to explain this to my mother (and the impact the meat industry has on contributing to poverty) she did say I was talking bollocks. So now its making a bit of news hopefully it wont just be me talking to a break wall :rolleyes:
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Is there such a thing as "veggie haggis? :P Ya know, I've always heard that I needed to try that in Scotland.... :rolleyes:

yes there is and it is actualy really nice- before I went veggie I did used to slag it off thinking whats the point in veggie haggis but I am so glad it exists now because haggis is def one of the things I actually miss
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Is there such a thing as "veggie haggis? :P  Ya know, I've always heard that I needed to try that in Scotland.... :rolleyes:

yes there is and it is actualy really nice- before I went veggie I did used to slag it off thinking whats the point in veggie haggis but I am so glad it exists now because haggis is def one of the things I actually miss

Can I readily find it in Scotland?
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I try to eat a large piece of meat at least once a day.

So the answer to 'Are you a vegetarian?' is a resounding 'no'.

Thanks for answering the question. ;)
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Is there such a thing as "veggie haggis? :P   Ya know, I've always heard that I needed to try that in Scotland.... :rolleyes:

yes there is and it is actualy really nice- before I went veggie I did used to slag it off thinking whats the point in veggie haggis but I am so glad it exists now because haggis is def one of the things I actually miss

Can I readily find it in Scotland?

I doubt 'readily'. I got some at Trader Joe's once and it tasted like what cat food smells like. I haven't seen it there ever again.
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well I have no probs finding veggie haggis, I know all the right places you see :lol: although it is harder to come across than the meat version but it is about ;)
I'm a BIGGER Beatles fan than you and I'm an even BIGGER Wings fan than that...
'You're a Paul McCartney fan? No you're a Wings fan'. 'Thankyou Scotland' Ho Hey Ho...
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I am the buttplug goo goo goo joob
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