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| California legalizes Gay Marriage; Against the will of 30 million people | |
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| Tweet Topic Started: May 16 2008, 06:56 PM (343 Views) | |
| Johnknight1 | May 16 2008, 06:56 PM Post #1 |
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Apparently on May 15th, 2008, the California Supreme Court ruled 4 to 3 that gay marriage should be legal, making it the 2nd state to have legal gay marriage. Which is ironic, since it has been voted on the last god knows how long years by the actual voters, by a 4 to 1 margin. Well...d***. San Francisco is taking over the world. That god-forsakken sad city. Anyways, ya. I guess I now live in New-Massachusettes, lulz...I just hope we don't become commies as well!
XD Well, I guess what 4 people says truely is more important then what 30 million people say in this God-forsakken overly-rich, spoiled, and hippie-run state. Seirously though, did I ever mention that I hate the Supreme Court=??? Like...I want it to have no legal authority over the government, outside of court cases. Creation of a National Bank against the people's will, banning white and non-whites (or even people who are 1/8 of a ethnicity that isn't caucation) from marrying (in several states pre-Civil War and up until the 1960's), The Jim Crow Laws, Plessy vs. Ferguson, preventing FDR to help the county with the New Deal, and now this. All they do is create s***, from their start to the future. Ya...I guess I'm a extremist in the way I think the Supreme Courts for the state and the nation should only do rule on the biggest court cases, lulz. Obviously I'm avidly against gay marriage...and I think the idea of a Supreme Court's 7 or so members rulings over-rule the people themselves was a joke to begin with. Just look at my examples above, and how they've done nothing but harm, aside from overruling themselves. Now a State Supreme Court has done just that again. If America is a "Democratic Republic", in the sense that we are free to become what we wish to become, and elect people to represent us, then how come a court of a bunch of old (white) guys that are elected by the Supreme Court get to deciede everything=??? Laws should almost always be what the people want in all but a few very rare situations. We vote for a President and Congress to represent us, and share our views on (most) issues. The idea of a Supreme Court being the most powerful branch of government in itself sounds like tyrancy. They pick who rules what, and they basically make all the laws, based on what's "Constitutional". You know what? F*** the god d*** Constitution. In and of itself it says "All Men are Created Equal", and legalizes Slavery. I really don't give a f*** about what is Constitutional based on a document that is over 300 years old. That was then, this is now. I seriously believe it's a excuse to say "What I say should be law will be law" by the politicans. Slavery is Constitutional. Ownership of any and every type of guns are Constitutional. Sexist laws are Constitutional. Yet we overruled them. We abolished slavery. We limit several dangerous guns that have horrible power and potential in civilian hands, and in some cases, we ban guns because we fear being shot . And because several far leftists are afraid we're all f***ing stupid, and never heard of the Prohobition of Alchol, and how the national alchol trade was hardly damaged, and crimes increased by absolutely massive numbers. We gave women their rightful rights to vote in the first quarter of the 20th century, and they are seen as equals now, as well as people of all ethnicities. I know I'm ranting about that, but f*** what the document says. It's about what we, the people believe in. Even one of the writter/main influences of the Constitution, Thomas Jefferson, says that. And "Seperation of Church and State" isn't in the Constitution, yet people say joining the two is "Unconstutional". Prove it. It says absolutely NOTHING about seperation of church and state. So ya, I'm ranting. Ergh...now I remember why I absolutely REFUSE to join the democrat party...it's like they try to take our rights. I wouldn't be suprirsed if they were bribed by the billionare socialists that run the god-d*** party. This all is probably from the influence from all those billionare socialists running the party financially. Ya, let the people deciede the laws, and elect people to represent them. Not a bunch of old white fat people that probably forget their name every ten minutes. They're so old, they make John McCain look like David Archuleta, lol! |
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| Foxizmygame | May 16 2008, 07:06 PM Post #2 |
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......Ok So Let me get this straight...You think they should of never abolish slavery.....shouldnt gave the women to right to vote also no limit on guns.......Thats crazy now you got me ranting......all of these things that are happening are meant for a reason...People are starting to think whats human like and whats not.Not By what the F***** Bill of rights...preamble etc......Says!...also about that gay marriage thing.......ummm If love is love its meant to be I just dont believe in marriage doh........but some kind of relationship....
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| Johnknight1 | May 16 2008, 07:14 PM Post #3 |
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^ No. I'm sick of people hiding behind this "Unconstitutional" and "Constituional" crap, when it's just a way to hide "In my opinion", but more in your face. I think the Constitution is what ever the crap we make it to be. America shouldn't be limited to what a over 300 year old document says. The people should be the ultimate decieder of thngs. If it was ALWAYS LIKE THAT, slavery would have died sooner. What the people generally agree on what they want, they should generally get. It should be the people that make laws. Not 9 people. |
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| sneschurch | May 16 2008, 07:39 PM Post #4 |
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I'm against gay marraige too....but honestly not enough to care too much. As long as gay marriage isn't a requirement or a new law doesn't force us or possible future children to gay relationships I don't care.....however knowing america it will do something stupid like that. I'm still choking over abortion to be honest. It's suppose to be for women's rights but honestly it's just something to guard womens stupidity (I'm also a guy who thinks that the man should be forced to cope and help the women during her pregnancy (until it's given to adoption). But whatever gayness is just stupidity to me (like trying to stick a square into a circular hole. Man people are dumb, but oh well I guess stupid people should be happy too *cringes* |
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| nightmoves | May 16 2008, 07:39 PM Post #5 |
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Well, I'm not against gays or gay marriage. I hate how my family feels about it though. I don't think gays are "evil", or "abominations of God". I see them as I see everyone else, as people. I have no prejiduces against anyone of any race or culture, but, I will admit, that I have alot of scepticism about relgion in general. I don't hate based on race, gender, age, religion, or sexual orientation. I beleive everyone has the right to be treated equal.... Except for Sega fanboys. :lol: |
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| Foxizmygame | May 16 2008, 08:19 PM Post #6 |
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and Down below it has an ad is gay marriage is wrong yes....it is in my opinon..lol |
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| ZeroSal | May 16 2008, 08:36 PM Post #7 |
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I don't hate gay people either I just don't think they should get merried. Why because the whole point about merriage is to have children. Well that's if you believe in the traditional merriage. I know there's other things too but children is probably the main reason. And if gay people want the same rights that merried people have why don't the just have civil unions. |
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| sneschurch | May 16 2008, 09:44 PM Post #8 |
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well I hate gay sexuality as well and it's obviously for religious reasons. However I will not be so jaded to say I ate homosexuals and they should be treated inferior. That would only make me a hyprocrite seeing as sin is all equal in nature. I'm against gay marriage only because to me it depreciates marriage even more than what marriage has become now. Now I'm not going to say it's as the marriage drive trus at Las Vegas or the marriage for one week to see what it's like but still it turns marriage into a game or rather into something as simple as a bonding of kiddy relationship propoganda that Market Hollywood seems to want to turn love into. With this ideal of love why not allow man to marry his horse or his 6 year old daughter. I'm sure after a while of conditioning and pampering the 6 year old will think that marrying her father and having sex is something natural and form fitting for a young girl her age. Well if this sickens you then shut up and stop being an ageist. 6 years are people too and they should have the same rights as you or me! yeah........ I guess I'm just a traditionist with my way of thinking..... |
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| Johnknight1 | May 17 2008, 12:11 AM Post #9 |
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I don't hate gay people. I have a few lesbian friends, and I don't treat them (drastically; I would be lying if I don't treat them a bit diffrently) any diffrently. Except if I want to go further with the "relationship"...I can't (of course life hates me, so something always happens anyways! >_<). Which is good-so many people take s*** too far with their segregations against people of diffrent sexual preferences, monetary status/class, race/ethnicity, political positions (well...sometimes it's justified in extreme cases, I suppose), and above all, religion (the last alone is the killer of billions).
That's basically how I feel. Plus-it is physically proven that being gay is a disorder of the estrogen and testorone balance (obviously females should have more of the earlier, while males should have more of the latter). I'm not saying gay people aren't equal to us-they are. The way I see it is like a mental disorder. It's proven reverseable by several scientific studies (that the FDA often refuses to accept, which proves it's right! XD). The point of marriage is to unite two people, and raise a family. Gays and lesbians can't have children, which defeats the purpose. Plus, contries with gay marriage generally have a population decline, and more sexual crimes occur, because they are more sexually open, and sex becomes the thing driving the nation in a lot of instances. Still, while I am against gay marriage, I STRONGLY oppose gay bashing and attacking people because they are gay. That's just messed up in every way possible. |
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| LightSkye | Jun 3 2008, 10:49 PM Post #10 |
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I see I'm late to the topic...as usual. First off, A Democracy is supposed to mean the people rule, Not a court of 7 people. There should be a nation wide vote to actually decide this. The consitution was made to provide laws and if it ever needed to be changed, Thats what amendments exist for. I'm probably the only one here who actually was happy about the decision, Though it does seem rushed. Legalising it in one state just screws up laws if a married couple go elsewhere. Marrage is not only about having children, Its about dedicating yourself to one other person and basically cementing it for the rest of your life. Same-Sex Union is important in more ways that a title. For example(using one I know right off the top of my head), If your injured badly and in critical care in a Hospital, Only direct family members and spouses can see you. Same-Sex Union would solve that.
First off, The FDA is retarded. They refuse way too much stuff even if its proven in their face, They only accept something if they make money off it. Second off, Its not a hormone disorder, Thats been proven wrong. It is reversable with some people, Not with others. Ill explain more of that in depth when I have some more free time(I originally had alot more typed here, But Ill retype it with sources later on). In my opinion, If you are sentient, Then you are equal and you have the right to exist. (with some exceptions). As you can see, Im doing this in a hurry, Have to go study for finals and actually get a full night's sleep (Slept 4 hours last night). Wish me luck.[/color] Oh and
GTFO night. |
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