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David Cameron
Topic Started: May 11 2010, 10:30 PM (1,034 Views)
Eirik
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m8x115
Jun 25 2010, 02:33 AM
Firstly, sorry I haven't been on in a while, I had exams.

Now, to disprove you.

"That would be the start of a nuclear war that would utlimately destroy the human race." - By saying that, you are saying that the end result is the end of all humans.

"I don't believe all humans would die following a nuclear war." - Now you just contradict yourself.

You cannot have it both ways, Obama can destroy the human race and there be no humans to record this because they're all dead OR some survive and he doesn't go down in history as the destroyer of the human race because some members of the human race survived.

Anything to add?
Let me rephrase then.

What I meant was that if Obama were to start a nuclear war, it would mean the end of the world AS WE KNOW IT. However, I don't believe any race can destroy themselves completely; someone would have to survive.
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Eirik
Jun 25 2010, 08:29 PM
m8x115
Jun 25 2010, 02:33 AM
Firstly, sorry I haven't been on in a while, I had exams.

Now, to disprove you.

"That would be the start of a nuclear war that would utlimately destroy the human race." - By saying that, you are saying that the end result is the end of all humans.

"I don't believe all humans would die following a nuclear war." - Now you just contradict yourself.

You cannot have it both ways, Obama can destroy the human race and there be no humans to record this because they're all dead OR some survive and he doesn't go down in history as the destroyer of the human race because some members of the human race survived.

Anything to add?
Let me rephrase then.

What I meant was that if Obama were to start a nuclear war, it would mean the end of the world AS WE KNOW IT. However, I don't believe any race can destroy themselves completely; someone would have to survive.
Not to mention you are being a complete pedant about the words Eirik used. ^o) But, if that's how you survive on the internet.... :S
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Ravis, what do you think about Cameron and your lovely country?
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m8x115
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Jun 26 2010, 03:43 PM
Not to mention you are being a complete pedant about the words Eirik used. ^o) But, if that's how you survive on the internet.... :S

Reread his posts. How else am I supposed to interpret what he says? He completely contradicts himself!

Also you may notice his argument changes. He first states that Obama does not have the power to drop nukes. Once he realised he was wrong, he switched to saying that Obama wouldn't drop nukes.

So before criticising me for picking up on the words he uses to contradict himself, take a look at his (flawed) argument(s).

And Eirik, if you meant the end of the "WORLD AS WE KNOW IT", what was so hard about saying it the first time? Oh wait, my mistake, that would have made your point about Obama going down in history as the destroyer of the human race invalid.
And I know it's hard to stick to the same point throughout an argument, but if you don't actually have views and are just here to argue with people, please, carry on.

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I'm still saying that Obama can't drop nukes, even if he would. If you disagree with this, I'll happily repeat my arguments for why Obama as an individual does not hold the power to make the decision to drop a nuclear bomb.

I am also saying that EVEN IF HE COULD (which he can't) Obama, once again as an individual, knows the consequences of dropping a nuclear bomb and would never make that choice. At least that is the impression I personally have gotten of him, through his speeches and public statements.

My arguments are not flawed, but I must say that when somebody picks on a person's choice of words in a discussion, maybe their own arguments are not only flawed, but non-existing.

I'll be happy to continue this discussion with you, but only if you can remain serious and stop being sarcastic.

For you m8, I shall outlinemy view on this matter.

Obama can not drop a nuclear bomb. However, if he had this power, I believe if he would choose not so. If he would actually choose to drop a nuclear bomb, seeing that he had the ability to do so, he would erase most of the human race, though not all, and change the world forever (or in other words, as we know it today).

There. I've summed up my opinions and you may come with opposing arguments of your own.
Edited by Eirik, Jun 27 2010, 11:28 PM.
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m8x115
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I'm not going to debate whether or not Obama can launch nukes or not. He can. It is a fact whether you choose to accept it or not.
And I personally think that if the USA were attacked with nuclear weapons he would retaliate.
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Jul 1 2010, 05:19 PM
I'm not going to debate whether or not Obama can launch nukes or not. He can. It is a fact whether you choose to accept it or not.
And I personally think that if the USA were attacked with nuclear weapons he would retaliate.
Get your facts straight; he can't. I find hard to believe that a perfectly sane person such as yourself find it natural to believe that a single man holds the power to destroy the earth.

As stated before in this thread, Obama needs the acceptance from another member of the goverment (I believe it is the Secretary of Defence). Sure, Obama picks his own goverment, but my point is that the individual Obama CAN'T launch a nuclear bomb. It just isn't possible. There's a foolproof and higly sofisticated system which ensures that no single man, whether it be Obama or someone pretending to be him, can launch a nuclear bomb.

I suggest you either go on a tour in Washington, where they'd tell you all about this stuff, or read a book about it.

You may think that. I personally believe he wouldn't.
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What exactly do you mean by "Pee Zed"?
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Nice sharing.
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