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Suicide; .........
Topic Started: Dec 9 2008, 06:01 AM (831 Views)
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Hey guys, well suicide has affected my life alot recently. Firstly with my dad drinking himself to death. Do you guys think this is considered suicide? Also, i JUST found out that one of my close friends hung himself out of a tree. :(
What do you guys think is considered suicide, like smoking or drinking. How has suicide affected your lives before? Do you think suicide is wrong, or justified in some cases?
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whatever makes you feel better.
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Suicide it taking your own life.. drinking smoking or jumping off a roof it still suicide

Suicide isn't really wrong... whats wrong is some 1 not being able to end a terrible pain with death

I'm not really sure on my view about this subject.. since sometimes i wish to do it but then again i really don't want to do it

And sorry to hear about what happed to your friend.. iv had the same thing happen
Edited by Danielle, Dec 9 2008, 08:09 AM.
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I don't have anyone close to me that committed or attempted suicide, at least that I know of, so I really don't know that much about the subject.
But it's hard to look at certain addictions that can cause death as suicide addictions, since getting addicted doesn't depend solely on your own free will. Your environment and psyche have a lot to do with it too. But in the end it is you that made the choice. In my eyes dying because of an addiction you 'chose' to have, isn't really suicide, but it sure does resemble it.

I think committing suicide is wrong, because I feel that although it is our own body, we should still respect it and you don't really respect it by destroying it. However, I believe in reincarnation and karma, so whether it was a bad or a good decision, you will find out in your next life.
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I think I'll look back into this after school when I've got more time to think about it.

However. My sister committed suicide back in 2004, she OD'd on her painkillers and anti-depressants. It was bad, because for three weeks STRAIGHT, day in and day out my mom cried. Whenever she wasn't sleeping [which was hardly ever], she was crying.

Before my sister died, I found her in the bathroom once.. With bleeding wrists. I knew what had happened, and I think I remember finding a butter knife with which she cut herself with. Considering her depression was that bad [from being raped several times, and getting into a serious car accident], I think her suicide was somewhat justified.

So to answer your question Cppc, I know people that have attempted suicide [including myself], and one that has actually gone through with it.

I was a bit worried that I wouldn't have anything debateable in my post, but if you look at "Considering her depression was that bad [from being raped several times, and getting into a serious car accident], I think her suicide was somewhat justified." Then you have something to debate over. Don't worry about offending me, I come here open minded.. I welcome your views on the topic. However, if I see something that Master might say, I will no doubt get a bit defensive.. But nevertheless, feel free to share. :)
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Dec 9 2008, 02:56 PM
I think I'll look back into this after school when I've got more time to think about it.

However. My sister committed suicide back in 2004, she OD'd on her painkillers and anti-depressants. It was bad, because for three weeks STRAIGHT, day in and day out my mom cried. Whenever she wasn't sleeping [which was hardly ever], she was crying.

Before my sister died, I found her in the bathroom once.. With bleeding wrists. I knew what had happened, and I think I remember finding a butter knife with which she cut herself with. Considering her depression was that bad [from being raped several times, and getting into a serious car accident], I think her suicide was somewhat justified.

So to answer your question Cppc, I know people that have attempted suicide [including myself], and one that has actually gone through with it.

I was a bit worried that I wouldn't have anything debateable in my post, but if you look at "Considering her depression was that bad [from being raped several times, and getting into a serious car accident], I think her suicide was somewhat justified." Then you have something to debate over. Don't worry about offending me, I come here open minded.. I welcome your views on the topic. However, if I see something that Master might say, I will no doubt get a bit defensive.. But nevertheless, feel free to share. :)
I think that its your body and you have the right to what you will with it. But suicide is in my opinion hurts your family and friends more than it helps you. In some cases justified (like from what it sounds like your sisters) but like in my friends case i think toughening up a bit can be a better ultimatum.

But i belive in no god or diety so to me its not evil. Ultimately i think its your body, you can do what you want.
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I Know how your sister feels i have gone through the same thing (and not the car part)

Sure suicide effects your family but when you go to do it most of the time you don't care

Personally i dont care what my family thinks, the only people i care about enough not to kill myself is josh (my bf), my mum, my friends and in a way all you guys. I do not care about my dad as he a the reason for all this O_o
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Hmm, interesting debate idea. I believe your body belongs to God, seeing as He made it, and that suicide is wrong. We jail/execute people for murdering others. I think it's as bad to murder yourself. That said, there are plenty of cases where suicide was, if not justified(in my eyes at least), at least reasonable, in a way.
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Dec 19 2008, 10:53 PM
Hmm, interesting debate idea. I believe your body belongs to God, seeing as He made it, and that suicide is wrong. We jail/execute people for murdering others. I think it's as bad to murder yourself. That said, there are plenty of cases where suicide was, if not justified(in my eyes at least), at least reasonable, in a way.
I'd have to say i couldn't agree less. If a person is suffering beyond what any normal person should, then they (In my eyes) are entirely justified in killing themselves.

That's not to say that i approve, It's just that people who've had decent enough lives looking down on others and saying they shouldnt commit suicide is something that seems wrong to me.
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Maybe justified is not a good word to use here, i think that logical might be better.
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As always, I give exceptions when it comes to controversial subjects.
Although I am against suicide, I do not think physical pain is worse than emotional pain. I think that for most people, they can be exactly the same.
I hate being pushy, but when someone considers suicide, I try to convince them not to, because I think life is beautiful though it can have its lesser sides.
My recommendation for those who are depressed or even consider suicide:
Get out of your natural environment for a while. Leave everything behind, even your best friends, and take a short holiday to somewhere else.
I've been to Switzerland once, for about 2 weeks, and it seriously changed the way I view life now. It was so amazingly beautiful to see such a vast mountainous area, I was completely blown away by it. It caused me to appreciate life in all its forms so much more nowadays (holy shit, that sounds so lame, though it is true XD ).
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Dec 28 2008, 02:25 PM
As always, I give exceptions when it comes to controversial subjects.
Although I am against suicide, I do not think physical pain is worse than emotional pain. I think that for most people, they can be exactly the same.
I hate being pushy, but when someone considers suicide, I try to convince them not to, because I think life is beautiful though it can have its lesser sides.
My recommendation for those who are depressed or even consider suicide:
Get out of your natural environment for a while. Leave everything behind, even your best friends, and take a short holiday to somewhere else.
I've been to Switzerland once, for about 2 weeks, and it seriously changed the way I view life now. It was so amazingly beautiful to see such a vast mountainous area, I was completely blown away by it. It caused me to appreciate life in all its forms so much more nowadays (holy shit, that sounds so lame, though it is true XD ).
Ive always wanted to go to Europe, but i dont have the money raked together as of yet. I could just travel around America, but it seems like ill just go from seeing Mcdonalds in the city. To seeeing McDonalds in the rocky mountain area.
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Recommendation: Stop eating at McDonald's. It's addictive and depressing.
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I dont Eat it, thats why i was being sarcastic about it. Stuff makes me sick, literally.
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I have a problem, not enough money to leave the island i live on to somewhere nice.

Id love to see the "mountainous area'" in Switzerland that you saw black
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Well, just travelling the country (you live in Australia right?) might work out just the same :) .
If you feel uncomfortable about travelling alone you might want to go with one or two friends, it also adds some more fun that way.
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I suicided yesterday.
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Mar 1 2010, 08:24 PM
I suicided yesterday.
Really funny 'n' everything bro, but there are places on the internet to post things like that:

www.theybannedme.com/
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Knock yourself out.
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Agreed.. serious thread is serious
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Suicide is worse than living as a slave IMO, because you can always try to make your way out, and if you die, then it's the same as suiciding -.-

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