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Topic Started: Jul 5 2008, 03:30 AM (3,185 Views)
Tigerblitz
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Cerruh
 
Frankly, I find it extremely presumptive to start a topic that so passionately argues one thing and then ask that people not give the other side of the story.

I've never tried to convert someone to Agnosticism, and I've done my best to understand all religions. I have a Bible on my bookshelf, right next to a Koran. I've taken off my shoes to stand in awe in Buddhist temples and have gone to countless Masses. All are fascinating, and have done great things here on earth--but just as I acknowledge that they're right for some people, you should have the respect to acknowledge that I can decide what's right for me.

Frankly, if Jesus loves me, he'll be happy that I'm being a good person. If there is an omniscient god, I don't expect him to be so vain as to require worship as well. If you disagree, that's fine, and I hope Christianity serves you well.


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:D You are my sister in Chirst :D (Thanks jalk amist all the debateful comments I see you. P.S How long have you been a Chirstain? (like did you just accpect Chirst just now?))
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Last night I prayed for forgiveness. And guess what? It didn't help a thing!

And you're actually wrong. Praying for forgiveness doesn't automatically make you a Christian. It's a choice you have to make.

(PS: I know Master will post "It didn't help because you didn't do it properly and accepted Jesus into your heart".)
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ok... Eirik, that's kind of an lame argument O.o . How in the world are we going to know whether God has forgiven us? Did you expect something? Some angelic sounds coming from the sky? Something suddenly incinerates?
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Yes.
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Since when should religion be something physical? When I think about God, I don't see him as an actual man, who's sitting on his cloud. To me, he's a force that's inside us, and guides us.

Mastering this force, to me, is the true meaning of ascension.
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To me, God is something some humans created to have something to support them. They are too weak to realize they are alone. Even though they have people around them, only you can be you and you're all alone about it. I guess that pretending there's a God with them all the time makes them more confident.

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Hmm, kind of a pessimistic view on God you have there, but if that's how you feel about him/her/it :P .
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Jul 7 2008, 10:45 AM
To me, God is something some humans created to have something to support them. They are too weak to realize they are alone. Even though they have people around them, only you can be you and you're all alone about it. I guess that pretending there's a God with them all the time makes them more confident.

Eirik,

God does not make herdical sounds come form the sky. He/She/It knows that you have accpected Him/Her/It and sends the Holy Spirit to come and help you make good desions. (Note God,Jesus and the Holy Spirit are the same thing. They are 3 in one)
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But I'm not a christian. According to your first post I should have been.
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So I say, why can't we all just stop trying to convince others that OUR religion/belief is the best and that THEIR'S is bull?


IF you found the cure for cancer, would you tell everyone? Of course, unless you are an egocentric retard. What if the others wouldn't believe in it? Yet, not even TEST it? Then of course you would follow them and try to convince them to test it, if it's the cure for many people.
That's my point.
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Of course I wouldn't follow them if they weren't interested.

That reminds me of a holiday I had in Grand Canaria, an island belonging to Spain. Every night we would go out to the local town and have dinner at a resturant. And EVERY single time there were guys working on different resturants bugging us with things like "this resturant is better, come here" etc. It was extremely annoying. I'm sure some of you might have experienced the same thing.

And by the way, Christianity can't be compared to a cure for cancer. A cure for cancer would save millions of lives. You can't really say the same thing about Christianity. Loads of people would live just as fine as non-christians.
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Mr Master52
Jul 7 2008, 06:30 PM
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So I say, why can't we all just stop trying to convince others that OUR religion/belief is the best and that THEIR'S is bull?


IF you found the cure for cancer, would you tell everyone? Of course, unless you are an egocentric retard. What if the others wouldn't believe in it? Yet, not even TEST it? Then of course you would follow them and try to convince them to test it, if it's the cure for many people.
That's my point.
Science is different to religion. You can't 'test' a religion.
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Jul 7 2008, 05:14 PM
But I'm not a christian. According to your first post I should have been.
Yes you are God accepcted you... Please go To Bible.com and read The book of Jhon or atleast Jhon 3:16.
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Ehh.... I'm not a Christian until I decide I am.
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So I say, why can't we all just stop trying to convince others that OUR religion/belief is the best and that THEIR'S is bull?


IF you found the cure for cancer, would you tell everyone? Of course, unless you are an egocentric retard. What if the others wouldn't believe in it? Yet, not even TEST it? Then of course you would follow them and try to convince them to test it, if it's the cure for many people.
That's my point.
But what if 20 other persons would show up, all claiming that they have the cure for cancer?
Unlike the cure for cancer, religions can't be actually tested. Unless you or any other religion can proof to me that I will go to heaven, if such a place even exsists, then I will consider converting to that belief.
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Jul 8 2008, 08:29 AM
Ehh.... I'm not a Christian until I decide I am.
Eirik God loves you.
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All I can say to that is, there is no proof. If you can offer solid evidence, I'd probably convert. :P But until then, it remains people's own opinions, and their choice only.
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Jack (and every one who does not beilive) please tell me how you belive the world came into extistance(Spelling?) I will offer soild evidince.
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The big bang? Seems though the universe is still expanding now, it makes plenty of sense.
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How did the big bang happen jack please explain.
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