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Topic Started: Mar 26 2008, 12:24 PM (2,286 Views)
Mr Master52
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Maybe it's very close to 2nd place, but we're here to argue about smoking ;)
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Joe
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Yeah, and you lose. Smoking IS cool, and you know it :P
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Joe
Apr 10 2008, 05:10 PM
Yeah, and you lose. Smoking IS cool, and you know it :P

You didn't provide any support to that particular post. Not very debate-ish. :P


Smoking isn't "cool". This is because, even though it may give a decent sensation, it will shorten your life. Now, you're thinking "Fuck, I don't care." However, think about your family. Then think about anyone you may have lost to cancer and the effect it had on you. If you continue to smoke, it will probably give you some form of cancer. The cancer might kill you, and then your family members and loved ones will suffer.

So, having thought about all that.. Maybe it's not so cool "living for the moment" and smoking 6 cigs a day. Take into consideration those ones who love you, Joe.

Note: I've never been in a debate before. Therefore, my style of posting might not be so appropriate for this. Please just bare with it. :)
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Dying is just a part of life. Either I die sooner, as a result of smoking, or later, as a result of not smoking, my familiy will be sad anyway ^_^.
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Eirik
Apr 11 2008, 08:07 AM
Dying is just a part of life. Either I die sooner, as a result of smoking, or later, as a result of not smoking, my familiy will be sad anyway ^_^.

I don't really like your argument.

Sure, death is enivitable, but smoking doesn't only affect the length of life, it also affects the quality of life. If you were to smoke in life, you may be suffering from cancer and other diseases for a long time before you die. Not a nice way to go.

However, if you did not smoke, and die of old age, you will know that before you died, you have achieved everything that you wanted to do, and you won't suffer.

So, if you were to die young, it will cause a greater sadness than dying old, as you haven't achieved everything you hoped to do.

Also, a great quote says ` A Father shouldn't have to bury his child`. Think about it.

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Apr 11 2008, 12:16 AM
You didn't provide any support to that particular post. Not very debate-ish. :P

It was detabe-ish :). Started a debate didn't it? :P.

Tbh, smoking is not cool.

As for the father burying his child, i'm definately burying my dad. As i said previously, my parents both smoked 20 a day since they were 17/18, including when my mum was pregnant. Not an excuse to smoke i know.

The main reason i started smoking was to actually be a rebel. Until about a month ago, my life was pure SHIT. I never went out, sat on Rs all day boring myself to sleep. Then it changed, yes i started smoking and drinking occassionally more, but my confidence levels have gone way up. I can actually go out with friends and not have to wander behind them being quiet all the time. I love my life now :)
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Jack Sam, once again, this is how I'm different from most other people :). I don't like my life at all, and I don't care whether I have achieved something or not, or if my dad has to bury me. It's his loss, not mine.
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Damn, that's a selfish view on life :)
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Jack Sam1
Apr 11 2008, 08:51 AM
Also, a great quote says ` A Father shouldn't have to bury his child`. Think about it.

Hmm, I believe that's from Lord of the Rings.
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Apr 11 2008, 10:51 AM
Hmm, I believe that's from Lord of the Rings.

Maayyybbeee it is..... :-)

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Rofl! I thought I recognised it XD.
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Joe
Apr 11 2008, 09:00 AM
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Apr 11 2008, 12:16 AM
You didn't provide any support to that particular post. Not very debate-ish. :P

It was detabe-ish :). Started a debate didn't it? :P.

Tbh, smoking is not cool.

As for the father burying his child, i'm definately burying my dad. As i said previously, my parents both smoked 20 a day since they were 17/18, including when my mum was pregnant. Not an excuse to smoke i know.

The main reason i started smoking was to actually be a rebel. Until about a month ago, my life was pure SHIT. I never went out, sat on Rs all day boring myself to sleep. Then it changed, yes i started smoking and drinking occassionally more, but my confidence levels have gone way up. I can actually go out with friends and not have to wander behind them being quiet all the time. I love my life now :)

Hmm.. you know drugs? Yeah you all know them. When you take drugs you feel great and even after you're stoned you love your life. Hmm...how's that called? I know :): Illusion!
Something seems great from the inside but the observers know the real thing (e.g. you are trapped in a giant black box with PC, XBOX 360, cookies (and waffles :P!!!) and outside of the box are 60 guys with shotguns that lured you in there. Every guy that passes by can see them but you can't.
So, as I said, right now smoking will seem the best way for you to leave your problems behind, but, sadly, you WILL regret it someday. When you're under pressure and you lie you always regret it and I guess everyone smok/es/ed for a reason and not for just "let's try it out. Hmm... die of cancer? Idc if I smoke for 10 years I've had my fun". If my brother died of smoking (he won't smoke cause my dad pays 5euros/week when we're 18+ if we dont :)) I would be really sad, even if his life was ... horrible.
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Joe
Apr 11 2008, 10:49 AM
Damn, that's a selfish view on life :)

Indeed ;).
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Hmm.. you know drugs? Yeah you all know them. When you take drugs you feel great and even after you're stoned you love your life. Hmm...how's that called? I know : Illusion!


I would trade my life any day to live in such an illusion. They aren't always bad. And to be honest master, how do you know that life itself isn't one, big illusion?

You don't that's why you should always enjoy it in every way you can, and think about tomorrow when it's tomorrow.

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Apr 11 2008, 02:10 PM

I would trade my life any day to live in such an illusion. They aren't always bad. And to be honest master, how do you know that life itself isn't one, big illusion?

You don't that's why you should always enjoy it in every way you can, and think about tomorrow when it's tomorrow.

If everyone would just think about today, we would return to the cave men. Because even they started to think LOGICALLY: If I hunt non-stop for 9 hours, I will have food for 1 week and tomorrow I can get myself a new fur coat and after tomorrow I can help Maggy with the kid.
With Blacks theory: Hmmm I'm just gonna lay down 'cause it's a sunny day.
Day 2: Hmmm lay down again
Day 3: Today I'm having fun at Pete's cave
Day 4: Everything is messed up because I didn't hunt for tomorrow and I'm screwed because the winter just started.
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Mr Master52
Apr 11 2008, 05:37 PM
Day 3: Today I'm having fun at Pete's cave

Aah yes, Pete sure knows how to throw a party.

Master, I'm not telling you to completely forget about tomorrow, just don't worry about it.

As a matter of fact, don't worry about anything at all. Why should you? You'll end up somewhere anyway. Do you really care where? Do you really think the goal is more important than the journey?

Then you'll be successfull in life. Congratulations :).
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What the... ?! Is this still about smoking? Why you talking about cave men and what not for then? Weirdos...
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Yeah, agreed. I noticed we were going a bit off topic too, but that always happens when you get into a discussion with me XD.
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Smoking is an illusion indeed. It's a harmless escape from reality. Why do you play RS? Yes it may be fun, but you get away from life. When you play RS, you forget about life and you feel happy. it's good :)
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It's not as harmless as you think. :S
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