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Why Mohammed Told He Was The Last Prophet?
Topic Started: Sep 6 2006, 10:34 AM (134 Views)
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Why Mohammed told He was the last prophet?

Rohit: Swami! In Quran, it is stated that Mohammed is not father of any one.
Further it is stated there that He is the last Prophet sent by God.
What is the inner meaning of this, if this verse is genuine statement?
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Swami: Oh Rohit! You have picked up very crucial concept of spirituality.
This statement is original and therefore it entered your mind.
The inner meaning of this verse is based on the angle, which you take
For the word Mohammed, here the word Mohammed stands only
For the external human form and not the internal eternal God.
Islam does not agree to the concept of human incarnation.

When Bible says the word Jesus, it means the internal eternal God.
When the Gita says Krishna, He means the same eternal God.
Because both Christianity and Hinduism believe God in flesh.
We need not criticise Islam for not believing Human Incarnation,
Because the main idea is that there is always misuse of this concept.
The human beings claim themselves as human incarnations.
Every human being following the philosophy of Advaita in Hinduism
Feels that it is the Lord, this is very dangerous extrapolation.
Even devils and demons claimed themselves as eternal God
By doing certain miracles after achieving some super powers.

All these dangerous misleading cases harm the devotees.
In the name of idol worship also, priests have exploited devotees.
They keep idols in front and rob the wealth of devotees.
To avoid all these misleading misused concepts, Islam sorted
To the worship of formless aspect of God, we appreciate this.
But because of misuses we cannot deny basic system itself.
If copying is happening, it should be arrested by taking care.
We cannot cancel the very examination system for the fear of
This misuse, we are not avoiding the journey by buses and trains
Due to possibility of accidents, the human incarnation is important.

That is the only path to reach God as said by Jesus because
The human beings approach God only through human form.
The devotees can get full satisfaction and full guidance only
From the human incarnation and not from any other form of God.
Of course, if you fear for the exploitation of this concept here,
It is better to stick to formless God or God through statues.
But you should be prepared for the disadvantages in the above ways.
You will also loose the golden chance provided by God for your sake.

Yet, Islam should be appreciated because avoiding danger is good.
Such decision was taken by Islam depending on the circumstances
And the atmosphere prevailed over the society during the time of Mohammed.
We should understand the religion from the point of the circumstances
And the environment that existed during the propagation at that time.

But now the scientific logical analysis is well developed and one need not fear
For the exploitation by the false human incarnations who can be easily
Identified, so you should not avoid the system in the present circumstances.
Islam is not a new concept to the Hinduism because in Hinduism
The philosophy of Madhva says the same and preaches that the Lord
Can never become the human being nor vice versa and this is also stated
By Jesus when He told that He was the Messenger sent by God.

Thus Islam agrees with Hinduism and Christianity in its basic concept.
Mohammed told that He was the last prophet because He did not like
Another false human incarnation to come and mislead and exploit the mass.
It is only to avoid the danger of exploitation of cunning human beings.

What is the reason for Islam not to accept the human incarnation?
Even Mohammed said that He was only the servant of God and He did not claim
Himself as the human incarnation, even though He Himself knows the truth
That He is the God in Flesh like Buddha or Krishna or Jesus.
This reason enlightens the greatness of Islam Religion, the reason is that
Once a real human incarnation is accepted, several fraud human incarnations
Claim themselves as God and mislead the spiritual aspirants for their selfish ends.

In fact such concept was so much polluted and got so much diluted
So that every human being started thinking that he himself is God.
In Hinduism this misinterpretation rules the minds of several people
Even today and most people think “Aham Brahmaasmi”, which means
“I am God”, people say that service to human beings is service to God
Because every human being is God only, Sankara condemned this concept

Which was a religion called Loka Sevaka Matam, when Jesus was worshipped
By a lady who was using some special scent to wash His divine lotus feet,
A disciple told that the cost of the scent could have been used to serve the beggars
The disciple thought that service to society is better than the personal service
Of the Lord, but Jesus immediately replied, “Let her do this service, beggars
Are always present in this world but I come rarely to this world”, this shows
That the Lord is far greater than the society and the social service is valid only
When the Lord gives permission to do so, because the saviour is the Lord
And not the society, thus the background of Islam should be properly understood.


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Mr.sawami... nice artical u posted as your articals r common points on muslims and hindus.

but i must say that i have differ point of view about some of points in your artical.

indeed i listen sheri sheri sawami on Peace TV was with dr zakir naik.
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Even Mohammed said that He was only the servant of God and He did not claim
Himself as the human incarnation, even though He Himself knows the truth
That He is the God in Flesh like Buddha or Krishna or Jesus.

Islam has NO concept of God in Flesh.
so this point or logic is totally wrong.
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Of course, if you fear for the exploitation of this concept here,
It is better to stick to formless God or God through statues.

we muslim are not affraid of any exploitational concept. as i mentioned above there is NO shapes of God described. God never visited on earth in the Flesh.
so if we cutoff the Flesh cocept from your artical there is nothing left more.
feeling sorry to say that we are not covenced.
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Sep 7 2006, 11:03 AM
Mr.sawami... nice artical u posted as your articals r common points on muslims and hindus.

but i must say that i have differ point of view about some of points in your artical.

indeed i listen sheri sheri sawami on Peace TV was with dr zakir naik.
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Even Mohammed said that He was only the servant of God and He did not claim
Himself as the human incarnation, even though He Himself knows the truth
That He is the God in Flesh like Buddha or Krishna or Jesus.

Islam has NO concept of God in Flesh.
so this point or logic is totally wrong.
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Of course, if you fear for the exploitation of this concept here,
It is better to stick to formless God or God through statues.

we muslim are not affraid of any exploitational concept. as i mentioned above there is NO shapes of God described. God never visited on earth in the Flesh.
so if we cutoff the Flesh cocept from your artical there is nothing left more.
feeling sorry to say that we are not covenced.

Mujaheda_In_Deen;

The spiritual knowledge should come directly from the Lord. If He sends His messenger, the messenger is not capable of delivering all the points as told by the Lord and is also incapable of explaining in excellent manner as explained by the Lord. Therefore, the knowledge delivered by the messenger is not as excellent as delivered by the Lord directly. This is the main reason for the Lord to enter the human body to preach the divine knowledge. But if the Lord in human body declares that He is the Lord directly speaking, people become jealous because they think the human incarnation as human being only, since they always see the external body only. They misunderstand that the human being is claiming himself as God.

They cannot tolerate this due to their inherent jealousy and egoism towards the co-human beings. To solve this problem of majority of the people, the human incarnation has to say that He is only the messenger of God. Prophet Mohammad was really the human incarnation. But he never claimed himself as God due to this problem of majority. He said that He was only the messenger of God and that Q'ran was massage of God. Therefore, this Holy Scripture belongs to the angle of majority. The devotees who can realise the human incarnation are always very few only. To this minority the prophet can personally say that he is God or at least he is son of God. The message to minority need not be recorded, which can be orally delivered in person. Thus, Q'ran is a scripture for the majority. On the other hand Gita was the scripture of extreme minority, since Gita was told to Arjuna only.

In Gita, Krishna told that He is the Lord. Here you must realize that the Lord is speaking through the human body of Krishna. In between the Q'ran and Gita lies Bible. Jesus told that He is the messenger of the God, which is the message for the majority. He also told that He is God, which is the message for extreme minority. In between lies the minority for which He said that He is Son of God. Thus, Bible is the message covering all the three phases of public, which are majority, minority and extreme minority. As we pass from one end to the other end in the above order, the egoism and jealousy reduce from 100 to 50 to 0.

For majority dualism (Dvaita), for minority (Visista Advaita) and for extreme minority monism (Advaita) are preached by the human incarnation. Thus, in Christianity and Hinduism you can find all the three concepts. But in Islam you can find only Dvaita. You should not mistake that Islam is incomplete due to absence of the other two concepts. The merit in Islam is that no human being can claim himself as God and thus there is no danger of false human incarnation. But in Hinduism and Christianity there is always danger of fraud human incarnations. Again you should not criticize Hinduism and Christianity due to this danger. Assuming the possibility of danger of accident, will you avoid journey by bus or train or aeroplane? Thus, the positive and negative angles must be understood according to the context. However, in Christianity also, the danger is avoided because the Christians do not accept any other human incarnation as God except Jesus. Hinduism accepts every human incarnation as God. Thus, you can pass from Islam to Christianity to Hinduism.

There is no danger in Islam and Christianity. In Islam no human incarnation is accepted. This is extremity to avoid the danger. In Christianity Jesus was accepted as human incarnation but no other human incarnation was accepted to avoid the danger of exploitation of fraud human incarnations. Thus, in Islam the concept was not admitted. In Christianity the concept was admitted but was limited to Jesus only to avoid the danger. In Christianity the statement “Jesus will come again” completes the concept because it indicates that the human incarnation is again possible. Thus, the concept is completed in Bible. But by believing that Jesus comes only at the end of this creation, all the other human incarnations till the end are rejected.

Thus, the concept is completed in theory but not completed in practical. In Hinduism the concept is completed in theory as well as in practical. Gita says that Krishna will come again and again whenever it is necessary (Yadayadahi..). This means that the human incarnation will come again and again in several places and in several religions in even one human generation, because there is necessity for such facility. Thus, in Hinduism the concept is completed in theory and practical, but the danger is always full.

Thus, Hinduism recognises several human incarnations of Lord Datta (Krishna) as in the case of Sri Pada Vallabha, Sri Narasimha Saraswati, Sri Akkalkota Maharaj, Sri Sai Baba, etc. Hinduism recognises Buddha also as the human incarnation. Broad minded Hinduism recognises even Jesus, Mohammad, Mahaveer etc., also as human incarnations born in different religions. The universal spirituality is such broad minded Hinduism which is the broad minded Christianity, the broad minded Islam, the broad minded Buddhism and broad minded science. The Universal Spirituality contradicts and is prepared to argue with all religions limited with conservatism, provided these religions are prepared to accept the truth with open mind. The science with conservatism is atheism. When you realize all the three religions, namely Hinduism, Christianity and Islam, you will achieve the total concept, which is the universal spirituality. All the religions are different angles of the same central concept. You must observe the centre through all the angles from all the sides. Then only you can realise the total comprehensive central concept. Now you must see through the angles of Buddhism and science also.

Buddhism speaks about the God present in the human incarnation by keeping silent about God. Silence means that God is beyond words and imagination. It does not indicate the absence of God. Buddhism is misunderstood as atheism. The time wheel (Kala Chakra) and the revolving bright wheel (Sudarsana Chakra) indicate that the time is constantly moving and that you will meet the death certainly one day or other. It indicates that you should hurry in detaching yourself from the world and that you should attach to the Lord as early possible.


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well anil its nice to know what ur religion mentions about god and messenger but as mujahida mentioned n pointed out some info from ur post m clearfied some of the concept... i agree with her ... coz since we r the followers n we know n have learned as well as read in the QURAN (a book sent to us from ALLAH ) that MOHAMMAD peace b upon him was only a human being ... we believe in it...n yea as u said "spiritual knowledge should come directly from the Lord. If He sends His messenger, the messenger is not capable of delivering all the points as told by the Lord and is also incapable of explaining in excellent manner as explained by the Lord"... well lets take it this way... ALLAH sent Quran thru MOHAMMAD PEACE BE UPON him ...and that quran which is our holy book contains all the ifnormation about islam... if we disgaree with the fact that their might b something wrong with the informtion delieved to us through god's messenger then we go against everything that the book QURAN says... n it cannot be possibly true... everything that our book has mentioned is true n the proof is that whatever the scientists r discovering in this world as they r exploring more n more about the universe is already mentioned in our book... now the thing is how can our prohphet possibly predict these things that r occuring in future... he cant///... only god can... n if he wasn't a human being then why ALLAH introduced him as a messenger of GOD... why didn't Mohammad admitted... well abviously if in the past many ppl like FIRAON... called himself god (nauzubillah) n ppl wur so scared of him... MOHAMMAD cud have done the same... to scare ppl so they would really believe in him... no he did as he was told... n if god choose a person n a messenger for himself then he knows that person is capable of delievring his msg exactly as he is told... god is capable of chosing the right person ... he knows everything...
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well anil its nice to know what ur religion mentions about god and messenger but as mujahida mentioned n pointed out some info from ur post m clearfied some of the concept... i agree with her ... coz since we r the followers n we know n have learned as well as read in the QURAN (a book sent to us from ALLAH ) that MOHAMMAD peace b upon him was only a human being ... we believe in it...n yea as u said "spiritual knowledge should come directly from the Lord. If He sends His messenger, the messenger is not capable of delivering all the points as told by the Lord and is also incapable of explaining in excellent manner as explained by the Lord"... well lets take it this way... ALLAH sent Quran thru MOHAMMAD PEACE BE UPON him ...and that quran which is our holy book contains all the ifnormation about islam... if we disgaree with the fact that their might b something wrong with the informtion delieved to us through god's messenger then we go against everything that the book QURAN says... n it cannot be possibly true... everything that our book has mentioned is true n the proof is that whatever the scientists r discovering in this world as they r exploring more n more about the universe is already mentioned in our book... now the thing is how can our prohphet possibly predict these things that r occuring in future... he cant///... only god can... n if he wasn't a human being then why ALLAH introduced him as a messenger of GOD... why didn't Mohammad admitted... well abviously if in the past many ppl like FIRAON... called himself god (nauzubillah) n ppl wur so scared of him... MOHAMMAD cud have done the same... to scare ppl so they would really believe in him... no he did as he was told... n if god choose a person n a messenger for himself then he knows that person is capable of delievring his msg exactly as he is told... god is capable of chosing the right person ... he knows everything...

Thank you very much for your reply.



The driving point is the preachings of Prophet Mohammed, Lord Jesus and Lord Krishna are one and the same. Shri datta swamiji correlated whatever was told by them at respective times. These three prophets are the three forms of the same Lord who have come in human form for preaching the divine knowledge.
In the case of Lord in human form two items are there, Human body and then Lord residing in that.

Ex: Jesus told that He will come again. It means that the Human Incarnation will come again and again in every generation in order to avoid the partiality. i.e., He will take once again human body and will come and preach us. Jesus is referring to the internal eternal God in His above statement.

Mohammed told that He is the last Prophet sent by God. Here the word Mohammed stands only for the external human form and not the internal eternal God. He told like that because Islam does not agree the concept of human incarnation(Lord in human form). Even today Mohammed is treated as prophet only.
Krishna says that He will come to this earth whenever the spirituality and justice
are disturbed. Krishna refers to internal eternal Lord and He told like that because Hindus accept human incarnation (Lord in human form).

But so far never Jesus came in the same form and never Krishna came in the same form. He comes in human form only and not in the same form i.e., shape, height etc which are external qualities of human body only. Scriptures have to be studied with inner meanings. Human beings cannot understand the inner meanings. That is why Lord told that He will come again and again to preach us.

When the human incarnation dies, the human body is destroyed but the internal God remains eternal and He is not destroyed with the body. The electricity can be withdrawn from the wire but as long as the current flows the electric wire is treated as current for all practical purposes, no other way. The current cannot be experienced directly, it can be experienced only through the wire and so it is inevitable to treat the current as wire itself. Therefore, there is no contradiction between Hinduism and Christianity with Islam.

When scriptures are being explained with such clarity, many times we are not able to understand. Then how come all the individual human beings can be Prophets? It is very absurd.
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u welcome

well what i am about to say might be offensive for u n other non muslims brothers n sisters... but i am saying it bcoz thats what muslims believe in... u dun have to believe the same thing bcoz u have a different religion n there might be a lot of stuff in our religion that u dont agree with... which is fine with me ... i am gona discuss most of the points that stands out to me in ur post... n with those points i disagree....



but in our QURAN it clearly states that Mohammad Peace be upon him was only a messenger... it also talks about Jesus who was our preview prophet n came before Mohammad (pbuh). so they two cannot be the same ppl... n clearly not god... n just becoz they gave us GOD's msg doesn't make them GOD ... look at this way ... my grand parents wur muslims... they raised my parents in the islamic way n gave them the islamic wisdom they have learned from their parents... my parents passed on that knowledge to me n i will pass this knowledge to my kids... thats how ALLAH chosed a messenger ( a human being) for himself n introduced him to ISLAM... the messenger than spread the words of ALLAH to other ppl... we believe ALLAH is perfect n he knew that MOHAMMAD peace be upon him is a trustworthy man who will deliver his msg to the world with high degree of clearity. I asked u a question before... why do u think GOD tarnformed into human form to deliever his msg.... what was the need of that... i mean he cud have clearly told ppl without transforming himself. our prhophet had faced so much pain n obstacals coz no one believed his msg.... if nauzubillah he was god then why would he rather face all these troubles than be in his god form n tell the world n show the world that he is the powerfull god... HE CUDN'T COZ HE WASN't A GOD... HE WAS ONLY OUR PROPHET- THE GREAT HUMAN BEING WHO IS WORTHY OF ALL THE APPRECIATION...WE ONLY BELIEVE IN ONE GOD...ALLAH... HE DOESN'T HAVE A SON, DAUGHTER OR PARENTS HE IS ONLY ONE... .... ppl r scared of GOD not a human being... everyone knows that... i dun see any point of GOD transforming himself into human being...

and when JESUS stated that he is going to come back... well QURAN says "Muslims believe that Jesus is alive in heaven and will return to the world in the flesh with Imam Mahdi to defeat the Dajjal ("Deceiver"; the Antichrist in Islamic belief) once the world has become filled with sin, deception and injustice, and then live out the rest of his natural life." ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religious_per...on_Jesus#Islam) he wasn't a god or a god's son he was a messenger just like MOHAMMAD peace be upon him... he will come back when ALLAH orders him to...

UR QUESTION AT THE END

"When scriptures are being explained with such clarity, many times we are not able to understand. Then how come all the individual human beings can be Prophets? It is very absurd."

WELL, we believe GOD HIMSELF TALKED TO ALL THE PROHPETS (MESSENGER OF GOD) DIRECTLY OR INDIRECTLY (BY THIS I MEAN THROUGH FARISHTAS)... TO DELIEVER THE MSG HE WENTED THEM TO.. THUS, HE GAVE THEM THE ABILITY TO LISTEN, MEMORIZE N SPREAD HIS MSG WITH hight degree of CLEARITY TO THE WORLD... HE IS PERFECT HE CAN DO ANYTHING!!!!


again i really respect ur beliefs n religion... n i respect other religions too... so if at some point u got offended by anything that i said then i am sorry.. but plz let me know ...
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Thank for the reply; i respect the islamic view of God not assuming Human form.


But i want to clarify my point here;

A lecturer in Government College will teach you the syllabus and at the same time acts as the invigilator, valuer of the paper etc. and finally you are getting a valued degree from the college. Similarly, the Lord acting as Guru preaches the spiritual knowledge, guides you practically, tests your knowledge in practice and finally gives you the suitable divine fruit. A teacher conducting tuition home is just teaching you and is not connected to the examination, degree etc. Similarly, a human being acting as Guru preaches you the spiritual knowledge and not concerned with your practice and its fruit. The human guru may be able to deliver the knowledge of Satguru (Lord acting as Guru) as it is, but cannot clarify your doubts in the practical field as effectively as Satguru does.

If you are hearing the speech through a tape recorder, the clarification of doubts is not possible. Even in the speech, some parts may not be clear to you due to the defects in your grasping power only. The human guru serves as a messenger of the Lord only. He is just like a postman. Therefore, the guru you referred in the Sanskrit verse uttered by you means only Satguru. However, Satguru is not frequently available. Still the Lord will clarify your doubts through some body since the Lord has the super power. Therefore, you need not worry that your doubts will be remaining without clarification in the absence of Satguru. The Lord is always ready to explain your doubts either directly or indirectly. If you deserve to go to the upper level, you will certainly rise to the upper level by the direct or indirect guidance of God. However, if you are not capable of rising to the higher level, what is the use of even meeting Satguru directly? Therefore, you should not worry about the availability of Satguru. You should worry only about your spiritual progress to rise to the higher level and you must concentrate on removing the hurdles in your spiritual progress. If you are a tenth class candidate and even if you meet the president of the country, he can give you only the post of a peon.

If you have passed I.A.S examination, the appointment order for the post of District Collector comes to your home. Sri Rama Krishna Paramahamsa told that one need not search for Guru. God will send Gurus of various levels as and when you reach those levels. When you are ripened, Satguru will contact you at once. You may miss Satguru in your search. But Satguru will not miss you when the proper time comes. Satguru cannot do any good to any undeserving fellow. For the sake of majority, Satguru will not come down because He is not bothered about the fame. Krishna preached hundred Kauravas but of no use. Only the five Pandavas followed Krishna as their Satguru. Sakuni could become Satguru for Kauravas. But finally both the Sakuni and Kauravas were destroyed. A teacher in bogus institution gets you a bogus degree which has no value at all. Therefore, the Lord as Satguru and devotee of the Lord as a human guru are good. But the fraud Guru will destroy himself and yourself. It is better to confine to your family if you are not getting Satguru but you should be never trapped by a fraud Guru.

Satguru is the Lord in the human form. You should not see the external human form and should view the Lord only in Him. In the case of human guru, there is no Lord in him but you can treat the external human form as the possessor of power of God. In the first case you should understand the Lord as Guru and in the second case you should understand the Guru as the Lord. There is a difference between God as Guru and Guru as God. Your husband says “Guru Deva Datta” whenever he speaks to Me. The word Guru Deva has two meanings as per the Sanskrit Grammar. In one meaning God is treated as Guru and in the second meaning the Guru is treated as God. There is difference between these two meanings. The second word “Datta” clarifies that the first word is used strictly in the first sense only. Datta means God given to you in human form for the sake of your guidance. Guidance should be essential for your practice. Even clarification of your theoretical doubts should lead you to practice. Unless theory is clear practice cannot start. If there is no practice the entire theory is waste. If the theory is perfect, the practice is spontaneous. Therefore, the clarity in the theory and clarification of your doubts is very very important. Without understanding this, people mock at theory and stress on practice. Without complete and perfect theory, the practice cannot begin. Sometimes people practice due to fear or due to ambition for fulfilling the desires. The Satguru will never base on these two paths of fear and ambition. The false Guru exploits the people using either fear or ambition or both for some selfish gain like money, fame etc. But the followers are utterly deceived because such practice is not giving any good and complete fruit.

Satguru leads you to goal without any long time and deep strain. Suppose you have a bad quality like rigidity. Due to the same quality Duryodhana went to hell and Gopikas went to highest divine abode. In the first case rigidity was applied to worldly affairs (Pravrutti). In the second case the same quality is applied to the spiritual line (Nivrutti). A Satguru will direct your existing bad qualities to the spiritual line and will see that you will use those qualities positively for your real welfare. An ordinary human being acting as Guru will advise you to come to the spiritual line after removing bad qualities. The innocent and ignorant Guru does not know that millions of births are required even to shake a bad quality which was accumulated form the beginning of creation.

This is the difference between a Satguru and human Guru. Satguru generates the divine knowledge. The human guru carries on that knowledge in-to-to. Sometimes a practical problem arises in your spiritual path. The solution for that problem needs generation of divine knowledge, which is impossible for the human Guru. Therefore, if you get Satguru you are very lucky. But, if you do not use His guidance due to your blind attractions, in such case Satguru is useless for you like Sun for a blind man. If you have the maturity of mind to use the guidance, God will speak to you even through the human guru. Therefore, your determination to achieve the goal is the most important factor. If you have such determination, God will approach you in some human form and will guide you properly. Therefore, the problem lies on your side and not on the side of Satguru. How much lucky we are! We are directly talking with the Lord and getting the perfect spiritual guidance. The Lord is staying in My human body. There is no trace of any doubt about this.

When the devotees were calling Me as Lord Datta, I was confused and was very careful about the egoism that may trap Me. But slowly, I am convinced with this point on doing analysis from several angles. This wonderful divine knowledge cannot come from any human being except Lord Datta. These wonderful devotional songs which came spontaneously cannot be composed by any soul except Lord Datta. The vision of cosmic form (Viswa Roopam) can be given only by the Lord and such vision was given to two devotees simultaneously (Ajay and Seetamma) through this human body by Lord Datta. By the age of 16 years who can write hundred philosophical books in Sanskrit except Lord Datta through this human body? Lord Datta entered this human body even in the womb of My mother. Once My mother was telling Me that when she was carrying Me, she used to often get dreams in which she was finding various deities (various forms of God) with temple-bells ringing constantly.

There were two black-magicians in My village, who killed about hundred persons and three hundred children through their black magic in our village. In our joint family seven male issues before My birth were also killed by their black magic. The day I was born, both those demons were killed in violent way. All these factors led Me to conclude that the Lord is staying in My human body for His divine work of propagation of divine knowledge. I am just like all of you and there is no specialty in Me and no special favour is done to Me. The Lord is the speaker I am very very near to Him holding on the mike before His mouth. All His speech is common to all of us. After the war Arjuna asked Krishna to repeat Gita. Krishna expressed His inability to repeat because He also heard Gita from the Lord like Arjuna. When Arjuna pressed, Krishna told Gita again. But the second Gita (Anu Gita) stands nowhere before the first Gita. This is the concept of the human incarnation. The Lord enters the human body of a human being. The guest (Lord) and the owner of the house (devoted human being) are like the two birds and the body is like a tree. Like this Veda says (Dvaa Suparnaa). When the Lord said the first Gita, it is mentioned that the Lord spoke (Sri Bhagvan Uvacha). It is not said that Krishna spoke. Therefore, let all of us follow the Lord’s divine knowledge and get the eternal benefit. The Lord has to enter some human body and He entered this human body accidentally or incidentally. The divine knowledge spoken by the Lord (Satguru) is the guiding force, which clarifies all our doubts leading to determination, which results spontaneously in practice.

Satguru is the Lord in human form like Krishna. Even a liberated soul can be Satguru because He is directed by the Lord. He speaks as per the will of God. Swami Raghavendra, an incarnation of Prahlada is also a Satguru. He will speak whatever Lord wants to speak and thus there is no difference between the Lord and such top most devotees. In olden days the Guru tests the level of the devotee and used to expose that much knowledge only which is related to his level so that the devotee gets benefit. This is called as “Anubandha Chatushtaya” which means the level of the devotee (Adhikari), the portion of the knowledge (Vishaya) that is related to him (Sambandha) and the benefit (Prayojana). Suppose there are three devotees on the ground. One can climb ten steps only. The second one can climb fifty steps and the third devotee can climb all hundred steps. The Guru reveals ten steps only to the first devotee and says that the tenth step is the final step. If you reveal even the eleventh step he will be discouraged. Similarly for the second devotee only fifty steps should be revealed. For the third devotee the entire knowledge can be revealed.

But at present the Lord is revealing the entire divine knowledge through this computer. It is just like the booklet showing all the courses present in the University. According to the level one has to select the course. This facility was not there in the olden days. One need not be discouraged because if you are constantly putting the effort to climb the steps continuously, God will sanction any number of human births to reach the goal. The spiritual path has no physical significance. It is not like the journey to Bombay which needs the help of vehicles. The whole journey is related to your psychology or mental set-up which should act with full determination. The determination will spontaneously come through complete and real divine knowledge. The real knowledge can alone clarify all the doubts. When no doubt is left over the knowledge is complete, which immediately results in determination. Therefore, Guru is more important than even the God is because Guru is the guide and God is the goal. When God Himself comes to you as Guru, there is no need of any journey. He will guide you so that you will recognize Him. But His guidance is always delicate and critical because there is always a risk of your misunderstanding about Him. If somebody guides you to Him, such risk is not there. But such guidance will not be as clear as His guidance. Therefore, the issue gets mixed up.

When you recognize the God in human form, your concentration should be on the God present in Him. Since you cannot directly experience God, the medium is necessary. When you are experiencing God through the human form, the awareness of the external human form should disappear. When you touch an electric wire, your awareness is about the shock of current but not about the structure of the wire. Therefore, you have to see the aspect of God in Satguru and treat Him as directly the God (Guruh Sakshat Parabrahma). This means that you should find only God in Satguru. The case of a human Guru blessed by God is like the hot iron wire in the heater which was heated by the electricity but the current is put off. The effect of the current, which is the heat, remains in the wire.

The heat burns your finger but does not give a shock. Similarly, the human incarnation of a liberated soul has the power of God, though not directly God and is called as Guru. The third example is the wire in which neither the electricity nor the heat exists. To develop concentration in one direction you can treat such wire also as God and such worship is called as representative worship (Pratika Upasanam). There is no fruit from the object but there is fruit in the subject which is the development of concentration. The first two cases are direct and indirect worship of God resulting in the achievement of fruit from the object. For the representative worship you can select any human being you like as your Guru which has also the advantage of development of concentration in yourself.


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well, the teacher or satgura wat ever u r talking abt.... is may be in your religon.
in islam there is clealy said that Quran is the words of Allah and is pure.
as wel as the prophet SAW is here to teach u guide u.now as prophet SAW is not alive so that does not mean that there comes another teacher or else... NO,there r few ways to agin knowledge. which are
1. Quran
2. Hadith
3. prophet saw's fellowers way
4. ijtihad(think by your self)

even if u r confuse abt any thing hadith and Quran said that listen of your heart.
so if our heart is guiding us so why shuld we need any extra guru?

actually islam is the natural religon.as in hadith it say that "every kid born on islam its his parents who make him jew,hindu etc."
i'm inviting you to start thinking by urself.

a teacher we need to teach us but if we already knw the answer of question do we need a teacher still?
the answer is NO.
its a common fact that if our teacher solving a question and did any mistake we point out that Sir here you solved wrong value. why?
just because of answer must wrong if we still countinu the question with that wrong figer.

so the same with human and religon.

the One who created us gave us a menu(Quran) that study this and follow this. the post man dlivered God's mesge without any mistake.
even the prophet SAW guide us and tell the all slution of those probs which we gonna face.
wat we need more to follow that.
and donot need any other guru or teacher.

you know wat if our prophet SAW ( nudbillah) claim that He is god
we wont accept that.
so we muslim already in that much high approch of mind that we accept GOD as without human form,we dont need to recognize Allah as human form.
my points r clear.hope u try to think about
istead of copy and pasting.

peace!
wama ilena ka illal bilag.
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well, the teacher or satgura wat ever u r talking abt.... is may be in your religon.
in islam there is clealy said that Quran is the words of Allah and is pure.
as wel as the prophet SAW is here to teach u guide u.now as prophet SAW is not alive so that does not mean that there comes another teacher or else... NO,there r few ways to agin knowledge. which are
1. Quran
2. Hadith
3. prophet saw's fellowers way
4. ijtihad(think by your self)

even if u r confuse abt any thing hadith and Quran said that listen of your heart.
so if our heart is guiding us so why shuld we need any extra guru?

actually islam is the natural religon.as in hadith it say that "every kid born on islam its his parents who make him jew,hindu etc."
i'm inviting you to start thinking by urself.

a teacher we need to teach us but if we already knw the answer of question do we need a teacher still?
the answer is NO.
its a common fact that if our teacher solving a question and did any mistake we point out that Sir here you solved wrong value. why?
just because of answer must wrong if we still countinu the question with that wrong figer.

so the same with human and religon.

the One who created us gave us a menu(Quran) that study this and follow this. the post man dlivered God's mesge without any mistake.
even the prophet SAW guide us and tell the all slution of those probs which we gonna face.
wat we need more to follow that.
and donot need any other guru or teacher.

you know wat if our prophet SAW ( nudbillah) claim that He is god
we wont accept that.
so we muslim already in that much high approch of mind that we accept GOD as without human form,we dont need to recognize Allah as human form.
my points r clear.hope u try to think about
istead of copy and pasting.

peace!
wama ilena ka illal bilag.
All bad is from me and good is from Allah.

Thank you;

i respect your belief. But you cannot say that, Lord will not come in Human form. Beg your pardon, for you, you need not need Lord to come in human form, but there are several devotees who really wish to see, touch and talk to the Lord, and clear their doubts. Their Love on Lord is real so that Lord is available to them in human form and fulfil their desire.

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Thank you;

i respect your belief. But you cannot say that, Lord will not come in Human form. Beg your pardon, for you, you need not need Lord to come in human form, but there are several devotees who really wish to see, touch and talk to the Lord, and clear their doubts. Their Love on Lord is real so that Lord is available to them in human form and fulfil their desire.

:sorry: i can't say that God in human form come on its illogical.

if i agree for the sake of arrgument with u
remember just 4 da sake of argument.
so what form of human shld be of GOD?
suppose i say that God is 100 time powerfull n muscular from MR.world.
:( still i can't accept that God in human form like that. coz after all he gona die,a human have his own limits.

those who need God as human form are not accepting God actually.

i don't need God as human form. truly say do u? need the God as human form to worship Him?
if yes i must ask y?
there are sevral things we can't see them but we do believe. like Air,Pain etc
so if you wont see those so u dont believe on them?
can u see the gravity?
now my duity was to tell u truth now up to u . that u accept or not.
but on the day of judgement i can say that i told you abt this all.

peace to u!

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The Hindu Pundits and Scholars agree that the Vedas and other Hindu religious scriptures prohibit idol worship, but initially because the mind may not be matured, an idol is required for concentration while worshipping. After the mind reaches higher consciousness, the idol is not required for concentration.

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Muslims have reached the higher level of consciousness
Muslims have reached the higher level of consciousness. If an idol is required for concentration only in the initial stages and not later on when the mind reaches higher consciousness then I would like to say the Muslims have already reached the state of higher consciousness because when we worship Allah (swt) we do not require any idol or statue.

Child asks why does it thunder?
When I was discussing with a Swami in IRF. He said that when our child asks us, "Why does the sky thunder?", we reply that "aaee ma chakki pees rahi hai", the grandmother is grinding flour in the heaven; because he is too young to understand. Similarly in the initial stages people require an idol for concentration.

In Islam we don’t believe in telling a lie, even if it’s a white lie. I will never give such a wrong answer to my child because later on when he goes to school and learns that the thundering sound after lightning is due to the expansion of rapidly heated air, he will either think that the teacher is lying or later on when he understands the fact he will conclude that the father is a liar. If you feel that the child may not understand certain difficult things you should simplify the answer rather than give a wrong fictitious reply. If you, yourself do not know the answer, you should have the guts to be truthful and say ‘I don’t know’. But many children nowadays will not be satisfied with this answer. If this answer was given to my son, he would say "Abba (father), why don’t you know?’ This will compel you to do your homework and thus educate yourself as well as your child.

Those in standard one require idol for concentration – (2 + 2 = 4 will remain same in standard one and ten)
Some pundits while trying to convince me regarding idol worship said that in standard one the student is initially taught to worship God by concentrating with the help of an idol but later on when he graduates he no longer requires the idol to concentrate while worshipping the God.

A very important fact to be noted is that only if the fundamentals of any particular subject is strong, then only will he be able to excel in future for e.g. A teacher of mathematics in standard one teaches the students that 2 + 2 = 4 irrespective whether the student passes school or does graduation or does a Ph. D. in mathematics, the basics of 2 + 2 = 4 will yet remain the same, it will not change to 5 or 6. In higher standards the student, besides addition may learn about Algebra, Trigonometry, Logarithm, etc. but the fundamental of addition will yet remain the same. If the teacher in standard one itself teaches the fundamentals wrong, how can you expect the student to excel in future?

It is the fundamental principal of the Vedas regarding the concept of God that He has got no image, so how can the Scholars even after knowing this fact keep silent at the wrong practice being done by people.

Will you tell your son who is in standard one that 2 plus 2 is not equal to 4 but 5 or 6 and only confirm the truth after he passes school? Never. In fact if he makes a mistake you will correct him and say it is 4 and not wait till he graduates; and if you don’t correct him initially you will ruin his future.

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Well the thing is as mujahida sis mentioned ... our belief on ALLAH, QURAN, AND OUR PROPHET is way too strong... THOSE WHO BELEIEVE IN ALLAH DON'T feel the need of him to appear in human form to teach us about our religion ISLAM... n those who r blinded will neva ever believe in ALLAH no matter wot form he comes in (nauzobillah)....

don't u think if ALLAH is so perfect in everything then he has the power and ability to choose a right person to convey his msg to the world.... i wasn't born muslim, hindu, christian or jew but my parents raised me with the words of ALLAH.... n so bcoz of what they have learned from their grandpaernts and the QURAN ( a guide for all muslims) i am proud to say that i am a muslim now...

QURAN is a book that contains the words of ALLAH... those words can neva be altered since its protected by our god... we truely believe everything that has been said in our holy book QURAN... in which nothing has been kept a secret from human beings for their own good... if there was anything abt ALLAH comming into MOHAMMAD pbuh form (nauzubillah) then ALLAH must have mentioned this in our QURAN... since he had mentioned everything then i dun see any point in hiding this thing ?

GOD entering the human soul ... umm well its kind of confusing coz if its the case then any human being can call himself GOD (nauzbillah).... this will create a whole a lot of confusion.... n may cause many ppl to wonder if the existance of GOD and religion is merely just an invention of human beings..
ALSO if god takes a form of human incarnation (naozubillah) -trying to help ppl escape the darkness n see the light as well as making them feel his existance then whats the reason behind the existance of GEETA N QURAN... i mean r we muslims stuppid n fools to follow n believe the words of quran... when ALLAH in human form (naozubillah) exist around us to lead us to the right path... Also r we being deceieved if the concept of human incarnation hasn't been mentioned in our QURAN... in many parts of the QURAN its clearly stated that nothing in this book is just merely based on myths n lies... to believe that MOHAMMAD PBUH was not a human being but an another form of ALLAH ( naozubillah) THEN we muslims go against the words of QURAN.... which r the words of ALLAH...coz in QURAN it clearly states that MOHAMMAD pbuh was only a messenger of ALLAH...
n again keep in mind that QURAN is not an invention of a human being!!... coz whatever it has mentioned about the universe around us is now taking a form of true reality as we r exploring this world more n more... there is no way that a human being has the ability to predict whats now happening in the future n present billion years ago...

again as i mentioned earlier ...whats the point of GEETA AND QURAN ?... if GOD himself addresses his human beings directly... dont u think its then more of a materialistic thing... i mean look at this way... If that GOD in other word as u said in ur other topics forms into "Human Incarnation" to help ppl and make his dearest ppl feel his existence... then why is his world full of sins, injustice with poor, fights n wars, and other evil things when god in human form exist around us and can eliminate all the evils at once???.... why is that most of us have no religion n beliefs what so ever... coz they r sooo confuse abt all these religions that exist around the world... they have no idea which one to believe in... ? Why can't GOD (while in human form) tries to lead his ppl to the right path n thus the right religion.... he has the power to do so??

In our ISLAM... its clearly put into ppl's mind that there is only one GOD... and QURAN is a book sent through MOHAMMAD peace b upon him to convey ALLAH's msgs to the world.... now its our job to follow what the QURAN tells us or chose the wrong path n go against it... now u might ask me the same question that I asked u above.. why is this world full of sins then when god has the power to stop the evils... well we believe that ALLAH has set this world for us as an examination hall... where at every point of our lives we r being tested, judged and examined by ALLAH n those who fail will end up in hell fire... n those who pass will get reward in the day of judgment for all their good deeds... lets look at from ur point of view then... If ALLAH (naozubillah) comes into human form to make all of us pass the exam in this world for the reward he has set in akhirut.... then there will be no evil in this world... every human being would obey ALLAH's orders n thus end up in junnut... it will be such a materialistic situation then... what will be the point of this whole world... what will be the reason behind creating human beings...
ALLAH has made us with the ability to do what we want... he knows we r capable of making mistakes n committing sins... (He will off course consider this at the Day of Judgment)... n we r also provided with the ability of choosing the right path for ourselves...
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Sep 30 2006, 07:36 AM
Thank you;

i respect your belief. But you cannot say that, Lord will not come in Human form. Beg your pardon, for you, you need not need Lord to come in human form, but there are several devotees who really wish to see, touch and talk to the Lord, and clear their doubts. Their Love on Lord is real so that Lord is available to them in human form and fulfil their desire.

:sorry: i can't say that God in human form come on its illogical.

if i agree for the sake of arrgument with u
remember just 4 da sake of argument.
so what form of human shld be of GOD?
suppose i say that God is 100 time powerfull n muscular from MR.world.
:( still i can't accept that God in human form like that. coz after all he gona die,a human have his own limits.

those who need God as human form are not accepting God actually.

i don't need God as human form. truly say do u? need the God as human form to worship Him?
if yes i must ask y?
there are sevral things we can't see them but we do believe. like Air,Pain etc
so if you wont see those so u dont believe on them?
can u see the gravity?
now my duity was to tell u truth now up to u . that u accept or not.
but on the day of judgement i can say that i told you abt this all.

peace to u!

All good is from Allah SWT and bad is from me.

i totally agree...


i dun need god in human form to worship him... i can worship him without having him to come n make me feel his existance....

coz thats what makes us true believers... thats what makes us different from others n eventually this faith of ours (beleiving him without having to see or touch him) will INSHALLAH lead us to junnut...

if ALLAH comes to the world in human incarnation (naozubillah) n show us hell n heaven... n make us go in the right path then where will be that struggle aganist evils...since there wont be any evil... our world will be perfect place where everyone is a true believer... i mean honestly there wont b any point of our existance ... nooooo its not like that... we r here in this world to be tested... to really show to ALLAH that we r his true followers... n to show him that although we wur able to chose the wrong path for ourselves but no instead.. we came clean...n worshiped him only .... this is due to our faith in him... in our religion n in his words...

we struggled against the evils to come clean... that struggle will INSHALLAH help us escape the hell fire...
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The Hindu Pundits and Scholars agree that the Vedas and other Hindu religious scriptures prohibit idol worship, but initially because the mind may not be matured, an idol is required for concentration while worshipping. After the mind reaches higher consciousness, the idol is not required for concentration.

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Muslims have reached the higher level of consciousness
Muslims have reached the higher level of consciousness. If an idol is required for concentration only in the initial stages and not later on when the mind reaches higher consciousness then I would like to say the Muslims have already reached the state of higher consciousness because when we worship Allah (swt) we do not require any idol or statue.

Child asks why does it thunder?
When I was discussing with a Swami in IRF. He said that when our child asks us, "Why does the sky thunder?", we reply that "aaee ma chakki pees rahi hai", the grandmother is grinding flour in the heaven; because he is too young to understand. Similarly in the initial stages people require an idol for concentration.

In Islam we don’t believe in telling a lie, even if it’s a white lie. I will never give such a wrong answer to my child because later on when he goes to school and learns that the thundering sound after lightning is due to the expansion of rapidly heated air, he will either think that the teacher is lying or later on when he understands the fact he will conclude that the father is a liar. If you feel that the child may not understand certain difficult things you should simplify the answer rather than give a wrong fictitious reply. If you, yourself do not know the answer, you should have the guts to be truthful and say ‘I don’t know’. But many children nowadays will not be satisfied with this answer. If this answer was given to my son, he would say "Abba (father), why don’t you know?’ This will compel you to do your homework and thus educate yourself as well as your child.

Those in standard one require idol for concentration – (2 + 2 = 4 will remain same in standard one and ten)
Some pundits while trying to convince me regarding idol worship said that in standard one the student is initially taught to worship God by concentrating with the help of an idol but later on when he graduates he no longer requires the idol to concentrate while worshipping the God.

A very important fact to be noted is that only if the fundamentals of any particular subject is strong, then only will he be able to excel in future for e.g. A teacher of mathematics in standard one teaches the students that 2 + 2 = 4 irrespective whether the student passes school or does graduation or does a Ph. D. in mathematics, the basics of 2 + 2 = 4 will yet remain the same, it will not change to 5 or 6. In higher standards the student, besides addition may learn about Algebra, Trigonometry, Logarithm, etc. but the fundamental of addition will yet remain the same. If the teacher in standard one itself teaches the fundamentals wrong, how can you expect the student to excel in future?

It is the fundamental principal of the Vedas regarding the concept of God that He has got no image, so how can the Scholars even after knowing this fact keep silent at the wrong practice being done by people.

Will you tell your son who is in standard one that 2 plus 2 is not equal to 4 but 5 or 6 and only confirm the truth after he passes school? Never. In fact if he makes a mistake you will correct him and say it is 4 and not wait till he graduates; and if you don’t correct him initially you will ruin his future.

hmm nice post ... very true n well said ...
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The Hindu Pundits and Scholars agree that the Vedas and other Hindu religious scriptures prohibit idol worship, but initially because the mind may not be matured, an idol is required for concentration while worshipping. After the mind reaches higher consciousness, the idol is not required for concentration.

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Muslims have reached the higher level of consciousness
Muslims have reached the higher level of consciousness. If an idol is required for concentration only in the initial stages and not later on when the mind reaches higher consciousness then I would like to say the Muslims have already reached the state of higher consciousness because when we worship Allah (swt) we do not require any idol or statue.

Child asks why does it thunder?
When I was discussing with a Swami in IRF. He said that when our child asks us, "Why does the sky thunder?", we reply that "aaee ma chakki pees rahi hai", the grandmother is grinding flour in the heaven; because he is too young to understand. Similarly in the initial stages people require an idol for concentration.

In Islam we don’t believe in telling a lie, even if it’s a white lie. I will never give such a wrong answer to my child because later on when he goes to school and learns that the thundering sound after lightning is due to the expansion of rapidly heated air, he will either think that the teacher is lying or later on when he understands the fact he will conclude that the father is a liar. If you feel that the child may not understand certain difficult things you should simplify the answer rather than give a wrong fictitious reply. If you, yourself do not know the answer, you should have the guts to be truthful and say ‘I don’t know’. But many children nowadays will not be satisfied with this answer. If this answer was given to my son, he would say "Abba (father), why don’t you know?’ This will compel you to do your homework and thus educate yourself as well as your child.

Those in standard one require idol for concentration – (2 + 2 = 4 will remain same in standard one and ten)
Some pundits while trying to convince me regarding idol worship said that in standard one the student is initially taught to worship God by concentrating with the help of an idol but later on when he graduates he no longer requires the idol to concentrate while worshipping the God.

A very important fact to be noted is that only if the fundamentals of any particular subject is strong, then only will he be able to excel in future for e.g. A teacher of mathematics in standard one teaches the students that 2 + 2 = 4 irrespective whether the student passes school or does graduation or does a Ph. D. in mathematics, the basics of 2 + 2 = 4 will yet remain the same, it will not change to 5 or 6. In higher standards the student, besides addition may learn about Algebra, Trigonometry, Logarithm, etc. but the fundamental of addition will yet remain the same. If the teacher in standard one itself teaches the fundamentals wrong, how can you expect the student to excel in future?

It is the fundamental principal of the Vedas regarding the concept of God that He has got no image, so how can the Scholars even after knowing this fact keep silent at the wrong practice being done by people.

Will you tell your son who is in standard one that 2 plus 2 is not equal to 4 but 5 or 6 and only confirm the truth after he passes school? Never. In fact if he makes a mistake you will correct him and say it is 4 and not wait till he graduates; and if you don’t correct him initially you will ruin his future.

Idol Worship

The statue or photo is the inert object. The form carved in a stone or painted on a paper is also an imaginary form and not even a direct photo. The statues and photos are only models representing the concept, which is knowledge. The form of statues and photos is mainly human form, which represents the concept that the Lord always comes to this world in human form as said in Gita (Manusheem Tanu Masritam). Please remember that Gita did not tell that the Lord would come in any other form. The forms of fish, tortoise etc., were only temporarily to kill the demons and nobody worshipped such forms during their time. But Rama, Krishna etc were the human forms worshipped by several devotees like Hanuman and Gopikas. The Lord will come in every human generation; otherwise, He becomes partial to a particular generation. If necessary the Lord can come whenever there is necessity as said in Gita (Yedaa yedaahi).

Once this concept is realized, there is no need of temple and statue for you. You should go from school to college and then to university. This does not mean that when you leave the school, the school should be destroyed. The school must exist for the future batches. Therefore for you, the statue and the photo are not necessary and this does not mean that the statues, photos and temples should be broken. They should be protected and must be respected as the models of divine knowledge for the future ignorant devotees. Some devotees cannot accept the human form, which is before their eyes as said in Veda (Pratyaksha dvishah).

For such devotees the statues and photos are necessary for meditation since they are at the school level. The statues and photos are useful for the meditation of such limited minds as said in Sastra (Pratima svalpa buddhinam). Veda says that the Lord does not exist in the inert objects (Natasya pratima, Nedamtat), but says that the inert objects can stand as models representing the Lord (Adityam brahmeti). Therefore seeing and meditation upon the statues and photos are correct in the case of the ignorant devotees. But the other rituals like offering food, burning camphor, fume sticks, oil lamps and breaking coconuts, offering flowers etc. are not mentioned in Vedas and there are unnecessary and are causing the air pollution harming the humanity. All these unnecessary rituals should be avoided.

Offering food should also be done to the human form of the Lord only but not to the inert statues. Ijya or Yajna is cooking and offering of the food. Gita says that such Ijya should not be done to the inert objects. In the name of the statues, people are stealing the food and money. The statue and photo is not taking the food or Gurudakshina. The people behind the statue are taking those things and most of them are either cheating or wasting the money with ignorance. Whatever the Gurudakshina is given should go only to the priest and not the managing devotees. The business of the merchants by selling such materials in the temples should be stopped, because such materials are not even heard in Veda. Of course, the priest should be a Satguru and preach the divine knowledge to the devotees and the devotees should give Gurudakshina to such Satguru only. Thus, the temple should become a center of learning selfless devotion and divine knowledge and the priest must do only ‘Jnana Yajna’ in the temple and not the ‘dravya yajna’ as said in the Gita (Sreyaan dravyamayat).

Gita condemned such Ijya before inert objects because such Ijya is only cheating and business. Such a devotee will be born as inert object (Bhutejya yanti). This business is connected to removal of the fruits of sins and getting the fruits of good deeds, which are not done. All this is false, because the theory of ‘karma’ says that one has to suffer for all his bad deeds and can never get the result of any good deed without doing it (Avasyamanubhoktavyam…kalpakotisatairapi). The spiritual path should be preached in the temple, which must be ‘nishkama karma yoga’ i.e., sacrifice of work and sacrifice of fruit (money) of the work to the Lord without aspiring any fruit in return. Remember, that only the Ijya is condemned and not the temples or statues, which are the models of the divine knowledge.
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