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RScc repeat offender: my_goat_died; multiple avoidance of ban, threats made on RS forum
Topic Started: Nov 13 2010, 02:09 AM (1,931 Views)
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Yeah he's been back in full force these past 48 hours. I've got spammed image reports of all his ban avoidances and all names have been added to the ban list of clanchat.

This caused us to reach over 100 max bans so a few of the oldest bans have been forgiven a month early. If they remain on good behavior they may remain as part of clanchat. If they break rules before January 1st 2011 back to the ban list they go and the next oldest name gets removed to make space for that name.

Jagex really needs to extend the ban list to 1000 names since there's always going be FAR more offenders than there are ranked users. We've only had a maximum of 200+ players with stats ranked for 99+ for the first year we ran clanchat. After then everyone from 2008 and so on simply left the game or left to play Runescape on their own without the use of clanchat or found new chats that spun off from ours.

Either or.. that is another issue on the agenda that Jagex must look into -- extending the ignore list for F2P and P2P to either 500 or 1000 (the more the better).

I also believe perhaps we are going about this ban avoidance all the wrong way. Maybe Borisdec had the right idea when he said ignore list and it will go away. Though that doesn't mean I can ignore list all of it's names (without unbanning the bans of early 2010 to ban his daily 10+ new accounts). It simply means if we don't pay much attention to his efforts to troll hard as he does he will grow bored due to nobody reacting and will simple stop stalking clanchat.

Another issue is the kicks against innocent users. If somebody is breaking rules or trolling chat, the only one that SHOULD be kicked is the one trolling and avoiding filters or being disruptive and offensive after warned once. If they continue we should kick that user and allow those whom are offended by these trolls to talk back to it if they aren't being offensive about it. Kicking the source proves FAR better solution than kicking those that react to what the troll is saying against everyone on clanchat.

That's just my current view on the matter. If anybody has suggestions on how we can solve this ignorant person that doesn't listen when Mod Lorenzo already warned him saying any accounts used to disrupt our community will result in action against ALL his accounts -- feel free to suggest that in response to this discussion.

Thanks to everyone reporting images of new names this ding bat has been creating. And see you all once I sign on to clanchat.
Edited by Kire667, Nov 21 2010, 02:03 AM.
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Mod Lorenzo is powerless to enforce rules in Runescape. He can only act if the rules are broken on forum thread?

12 new names made today spammed clanchat. Suspectedg users being friends with and involved in the daily disruptive behavior due to his interactions with EVERY account spamming the chat and being racist in clanchat. We've got over images of various clanchat users talking in a joking/friendly manner in clanchat to the recent ban avoidance accounts which openly claimed ownership by my goat died.

If this action keeps up they may need to find a new clan to chat in. The same goes for everyone else interacting with the user my goat died. If he is on clanchat use the ignore list until he gets bored and logs off. Users having friendly conversations with this known multi-logging spamming racist offensive discriminatory stalking ban-avoider will result in possible ban from clanchat. I feel no sympathy for those that help others break rules and abuse our good clanchat. If you associate with rule offenders often you go down with the sinking ship when the **** hits the fan. And that is all I have to say about that.
Quick find code: 185-186-620-61926494

A new discussion for a solution to my goat died was posted last night on the RS forums. Sure enough the very next day my goat died is stalking w9hq everywhere we go not only with getting 20+ names daily banned from clanchat but he is going against Mod Lorenzo's warning and stalking us even beyond the w9hq forum thread.

Let's hope this is ample to get him banned once and for all.
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Things such as this. Every time my goat died talks on clanchat or posts somewhere on forum (like shown above which ISN'T on the w9hq thread but somewhere completely different) it makes people wonder if they are working tag team to troll clanchat/threads or if they are both one in the same owner.

All generals. Keep an eye out for this issue. Inbox me if more suspicious actions take place from both usernames are on at the same time.

His view "forgive offenders and they will convert to the ways of good" seems to be pushing for the EXACT same thing as my goat died whom wishes nothing more than to continue posting and clanchat spamming offensive commentary from not just his main account but from 5+ accounts simultaneously talking to himself.

Personally I know from false bans at clantast1c the more times a user is banned the more they want nothing more than to be accepted. But just as I had to learn about making tasteless videos for mere attention rather than quality that people enjoy watching not simply for the reaction value and laughs -- my goat died has to remain banned from chat until either ban appealed and accepted by majority of clanchat staff, or until the ban expires for beginning of 2012 (since his third and final offense took place during the final rollcall period of 2010, the images against him will carry over into 2011).

User was informed if he wished to create a new account he needs to change from offending others. Unlike bans elsewhere if we don't know it's you and you don't repeat the same offenses time and time over, what people don't know can't harm anyone. Most occasions the generals will allow previous offenders on new accounts whom DON'T admit avoiding ban and DON'T keep breaking rules of Runescape/w9hq to continue using chat on their new account or "talker" account. The same way most users make new "talker" accounts to avoid mute/ban on a previous account and still interact with friends which isn't possible through any other means.

But the whole "good Samaritan" idea never works. People change but not that soon. These things take time and from past offenders and past interactions we've tried to perfect the system to limit offenders long enough for them to learn and change their ways. Those whom can't achieve change remain outcasts of society -- unable to get along with the general public. In the real world these individuals are locked up and dubbed "nuisance to society" or put in a stray jacket due to mental instability for the persistence shown daily by my goat died. He should be lucky it's only Runescape and not reality. Training for the real world later when and if he lives long enough to mature and grow up.
Edited by Kire667, Nov 23 2010, 06:01 AM.
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http://s3.zetaboards.com/NGoR/topic/7436654/

Is this the change we've been waiting for? The end of bot spammers. Every new accounts MUST register with a valid e-mail address in order to log in. They claim it is for player safety and security in retrieving stolen or hacked accounts. I think it's much more. It's the ONLY way to ban players by e-mail address same as we do here since IP is too easily changed and it's much harder for them to set up a new Yahoo account name that isn't already taken than to unplug and plug back in a router.

It's not a perfect system yet. But they're working on that. Perhaps one day we will have the ability to set a password or PIN for trusted users to log on to clanchat, rather than limiting speak ability to a mere 200 ranks at time.


Correction. The problem has given up.

185-186-620-61926494

On page 3 it replied stating the following.
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I give up. You guys are not worth my time and I see that Eric is too stubborn to un-ignore me. I'll find a clan chat that actually allows us some freedom(like trading). Although I will not apologize, because I'm not sorry about anything I've done. Good luck with your clan


If his whole problem in the first place was he wanted to trade -- that's why we have world 2 and chill hub clanchat. Also he can use clantast1c I think they're also a world 9 trades chat.
Closure to the week of hell is fully covered in the images from Runescape forum posted at the last bit of the first page of this thread.

Thanks to EVERYONE whom helped stand by chat the full time and endure image report and reporting to Jagex until he finally gave up and left us alone.

Based on feedback I've been getting via PM on game I believe he now resides at volunteer_cc the newest clan of world 9 formed from some of the members of catherby_9 chat. Because one of the users on that chat told me to come to their channel to notify the owners my goat died is a known trouble not only for Runescape or for clanchats but ALSO warned by Jagex staff right on the forum thread. I never went because that isn't a clan ran by us and I have no purpose being in that clanchat while signed on my only membership account remaining paid for, catherby_9.
Edited by Kire667, Nov 25 2010, 12:52 AM.
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Well he returned a day later. So far all is peaceful and there's no trolling taking place.

If it stays this way there should be no issue if conversation maintains a mature standpoint. I've monitored the chatlog for the time I was on while he was there yesterday and there was no multi-logging, harassment, nor spam.
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Yeah I found it kind of catchy. Every time he makes a post you're the very next one.

Have you seen the video about this yet? I think I posted link somewhere in post 1 of thread.
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http://s3.zetaboards.com/NGoR/topic/7441418/1/?x=0#post8017393

December 7th 2010 Jagex finally listened to us about all these clan problems and are working on some solutions. A massive clanchat update shall take place and hopefully put an end to repeat offenders once and for all!
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He's finally registered.

Today I received inbox from Communism to say "Your fish basket is needed at the front desk."

Took him long enough to decide to troll here rather than daily on RuneScape clanchat and RuneScape forum.

Hopefully in 2011 things will change. Jagex is taking their first steps toward perfecting the clanchat feature and thus meaning better control on repeat offenders and kick avoidance.

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Your icon is a "J" in that photo, what does it mean?
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That means Jagex clan representative. Only two accounts per trusted clan chat can earn this. I'm just glad for once I've finally earned something that relates to RuneScape. They won't trust list our website. But they've listed the clan chat. Just unsure if perhaps it's a day late and a dollar short. I've since lost my interest in the game and hope it returns someday soon. With the free trade and this new clan forum opening up for 2011 it's nice and all. But I've got my doubts when it comes to Jagex and making ANY rational decisions or updates anymore.

Further feedback regarding matter of trying to prove to Jagex National Guard of Runescape and World 9 Headquarters are the same thing. I've listed "World 9 Headquarters" at the header of our forum and sent yet ANOTHER reply inbox back to Mod Kathy. This was followed up by Mod Seven (the one whom edited our first post in forum thread year or so ago).

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Now they are made aware this website links to that clan chat and that forum thread... I fear they may put two and two together and realize this is the website with all the videos and discussions exposing their faults since 2005 and backing the riots for player rights on old matters such as bringing back free trade, getting SwiftSwitch off offense of Rule-7 (client is still filtered but it is no longer considered an unfair advantage or third-party program).

Wish we were backing the riots against GE manipulation on Climbing Boots. That was massive and Silentc0re got much fame along with LogDotZip for posting various vids on the subject matter.

Then we also have the couples database, clan chat "rs romance" and Jagex newly made a quick chat option to say "This is not a dating site."

Still no rule other than various complaints from player moderators regarding the only moderator database of RuneScape - showing forum, player, and Jagex mod names when located.
Edited by Kire667, Jan 5 2011, 12:46 AM.
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