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2010/Oct/13 - StellarDawn discussion
Topic Started: Oct 13 2010, 04:16 AM (246 Views)
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I was browsing on JaGeX's StellarDawn forum when I came across a post made by se doom se. The guy hosting the primary Ventrilo for NGG. "Thomas" from ventrilo wrote the following.

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Kinda of thinking myself what would be in Stellar Dawn. Comparing the idea of the science fiction MMO other major MMO's however this would be the first major science fiction MMO that's Java-based. This the ideal that is the same game engine that brought RuneScape to life. Really does not make me feel good about the outcome of this game. However 90% of all in game items and characters textures have not been updated since the massive RuneScape graphic update you can just tell when inside of a dungeon. If you look at the ground it has nice texture to the walls and characters the graphics have not improved. I think within Stellar Dawn the graphics overall is going to match so it's going to have more high quality look.

My biggest concern is the release of the game how is Jagex going to promote this and will Jagex be successful. I personally fear that when the game is first release account trading will just skyrocket and a lot of players will be unlawfully banned.

The truth matter is I don't really know the storyline however I believe some of the ideals based on science fiction within the game. Is going to be drawn lines around a toxic planet and toxic-based areas within the game items such as gas mask and filtering systems be required through different levels and different sounds. I believe there'll be areas where is toxic and seriously deadly due to industry waste. Creatures that are deformed I believe will be found within the game due to poison and other forms of pollution.

Also think that Jagex is going to base some of the ideals of this game from Stephen Hawking. Which is a genius to understand the universe due to the fact he believes what's on earth is going to exist on other planets throughout the universe. So i believe there'll also be familiar creatures within the game. Such as cows possibly humans and other animals. Or maybe the game is the base off of something similar to the Disney animation Wall-E where the planet has been completely polluted by garbage.

I also think some of the skil that exist in RuneScape will exist within this game but will be named differently. A good example of this is herbivore most likely it'll be changed to something such as mechanics or modern medicine. Based on are the characters individuals or are the characters robots. If Jagex would release some of the basic details I think that would give an ideal to individuals and players of what this game will be like in the months and years to come.

I think only a limited amount players will have access to the beta. And a lot of bad ideals are going to put into this game I fear. A good example of a bad deal is Jagex recently removed the wilderness ditch and replaced it with a wilderness wall. If the ditch who cares why you want a wall there should rename it the Great Wall of RuneScape. My opinion small updates like that costs hundreds of dollars and are pointless.

I feel that what Stellar Dawn is released Jagex is going to be making a lot of changes to the game or because you don't like the outcome of the game it be delayed by six months to a year. I personally believe because Facebook and all other social networking sites are taking off becoming very popular something like this will be embedded into the physical game. The ability to a day game status and things of that nature.

I think Jagex needs to have a strong focus on clans such as not just a high score but a physical system built into the website allowing players to create clans and recruit members into those clans. I would also recommend Jagex should create blogging system for players since a lot of people are big on social network Jagex should set up a WordPress3.0 with blog support or something along those lines allowing individual Stellar Dawn players to operate their own blog where their characters.

I believe if Jagex does not work with the social networking the game will be a failure. Almost every website and every community out there is a day gives individuals the ability to link socialize with corporations through their social networking communities. Jagex has put a block up dividing Jagex from players. My personal opinion is Jagex wants to keep the profit to avoid laying off employees but the company employs only focus on making a paycheck and not the overall gameplay.

Several recent Jagex releases are based on claims of other games. And while a multimillion dollar company like Jagex risk getting caught copycat because their companies in financial trouble that's why I believe Stellar Dawn is so important and that is to pull the company of a financial bind. Since Stellar Dawn is more science-fiction us to think it's going to be more intended for adults and not children. Unlike RuneScape when the most important things I believe paying subscribers should have the ability to disable the language feature. So there are certain servers that would allow offensive language. Because frankly my own account got banned for offensive language. And if Jagex is a financial bind why do they continue to ban paying subscribers.

Jagex wants a good idea for game. You guys should release a first person shooter Java-based. First third person view of available roughly 30 maps 500 gun selection minimum. Frankly it be a great way for Jagex make some profit. Make 5 map available and about 30 guns. And most likely you have a very successful game. Me and a few friends actually tried to code something similar to that and failed. Because the reality is we really had a problem trying to figure out the physics did something like that with Java. And could never find a decent article about how RuneScape was made or how Jagex develops Java-based games.

You guys are interested in some ideals for FPS i'll be more happy to tell you thousand ideals.


Thoughts? Feedback? Let us hear them. Good discussion about how hard StellarDawn shall fail once it's released in 2011.
Edited by Kire667, Oct 13 2010, 04:17 AM.
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i dont think it will be a failure. caant wait for the beta and to see if im one of the lucky few to get chosen to participate in it.

and also when it comes out i will probably move over to it from runescape, it really seems like my type of game...providing it doesnt fail...too much >_>
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I agree.

I think StellarDawn Could be a new beginning for Jagex, maybe it could amend their past failures and their past mistakes!

But, i also see a margin for huge failure. Maybe that's why they decided that they're going to release this game instead of mechscape. But, as in any games case, how the game does will hugely depend on the gameplay which if it is anything like runescape, i will not be participating in for very long.

I'm sorry to say this, but runescape is quickly being outdated, with WoW, GuildWars, StarWars The Old Republic, and other MMORPG based games having better looking graphics; a better quality of gameplay, and some of the best customer service the gaming industry has to offer. Jagex will need to follow in huge footsteps to continue to be a key player in the economical world that is online gaming.

They make millions of £ per year, as it seems to go with money gain, they gameplay falls..
so we'll see how the cookie crumbles.

also, i will play if i get selected for the beta testing. having played since '04 with 0 black marks i think my account qualifies, but we'll see in the future.

any other thoughts?
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I'm sorry to say this, but runescape is quickly being outdated, with WoW, GuildWars, StarWars The Old Republic, and other MMORPG based games having better looking graphics; a better quality of gameplay, and some of the best customer service the gaming industry has to offer. Jagex will need to follow in huge footsteps to continue to be a key player in the economical world that is online gaming.
I agree with most of what Nova here said, except for some of this part. Jagex does not need to worry about following in the footsteps of WoW, SW:TOR or any other P2P MMO's. Jagex will never be able to attract the following these games have, so trying to go head on with these guys is just a bad plan. The only games they need to worry about following are other F2P MMOs (Except for the Guild Wars franchise).

I wouldn't use "Outdated" when describing RuneScape. It's a Java game after all and very successful one at that! Not many MMOs break the 300k player mark and RuneScape has over 100k players? For what it is, that's pretty damn successful! If they keep going the way they are, they'll be fine.
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I wouldn't use "Outdated" when describing RuneScape. It's a Java game after all and very successful one at that! Not many MMOs break the 300k player mark and RuneScape has over 100k players? For what it is, that's pretty damn successful! If they keep going the way they are, they'll be fine.


I'm just saying that the graphics and the game play do not attract as many people because it is on a java client. if it were moved to a downloadable game, and made on a different platform with better graphics, the game play would be suitable and would probably be way more interesting in many different ways.

but, i do agree with you. For a java platform game, doing what jagex has done with it is quite amazing.
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I wouldn't use "Outdated" when describing RuneScape. It's a Java game after all and very successful one at that! Not many MMOs break the 300k player mark and RuneScape has over 100k players? For what it is, that's pretty damn successful! If they keep going the way they are, they'll be fine.


I'm just saying that the graphics and the game play do not attract as many people because it is on a java client. if it were moved to a downloadable game, and made on a different platform with better graphics, the game play would be suitable and would probably be way more interesting in many different ways.
Oh yeah, I agree with that! If they somehow made it into a downloadable game with better graphics and game play, they'd attract plenty of customers. It's really quite a shame Jagex don't try something like this. The game play they have now just needs some tweaks and if they were to improve the graphics to something awesome/yet basic like WoW.. Then, RuneScape could be one of the top MMO's around! In my honest opinion.
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