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Serious Topic: Capital Punishment (Death Penalty)
Topic Started: Nov 8 2009, 05:32 PM (422 Views)
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I'm so sick and tired of having to discuss anything and everything RuneScape on here despite this place being a RuneScape site. This site used to have conversations OUTSIDE of RuneScape, and I want that to happen again; so I'm starting these "Serious Topics" every week. Hopefully people participate.

Small note, if anyone goes off topic, relates this to RuneScape in any way, shape, or form, or in general doesn't contribute to the topic, they will be reported for spam by ME.

Also, this next part isn't a necessity, but please re-read what you say so everything makes sense.

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Capital Punishment (Death Penalty)

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Capital punishment or the death penalty, is the execution of a person by judicial process as a punishment for an offense. Crimes that can result in a death penalty are known as capital crimes or capital offences. The term capital originates from Latin capitalis, literally "regarding the head" (Latin caput). Hence, a capital crime was originally one punished by the severing of the head.


The point of this conversation is to talk about the death penalty, and why people believe it should, or shouldn't, be used.

MY OPINION:

The death penalty has been extremely controversial in society for years. There are some people that believe in the old saying; “an eye for an eye”, whereas there are some people that believe killing a killer makes someone no better than the killer themselves. Most states in the US allow for the death penalty but rarely even use it. Texas and Virginia are the two states that utilize the death penalty the most.

The reason why some people believe that killing a murderer is acceptable is because of just that: they killed someone. In their eyes, killing someone is unacceptable, so why not kill them back? What they refuse to understand most of the time is that there is also the slightest possibility that the accused may in fact be innocent. Also, crimes differ. If someone kills ONE person in heat of passion, there is no way that can be compared to someone killing a group of people out of hate.

Killing someone is a crime no matter what. If the government chooses to put someone on death row, then they are no better than the killer themselves. All that really needs to be done is for that killer to be jailed for life. The major downside is that they are fed, they have a roof over their head, etc.., but if they’re killed then they’re being handed the easy way out. Killing them would be ending their life and they wouldn’t have to go through any torture of staying alive and having their guilt slowly pick away at their minds. Keep the killers alive and have their mentality destroy themselves.
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I completely agree, and would love more serious topics.

Okay, so personally, I think that the American Prison system has got it all wrong. It's an endless cycle, where you are more likely to go in if you come out. Rehabilitation and education are the best ways to combat crime, not just throwing somebody into a waste of time for a long period of time and then letting them leave, with no job, no home, etc. They'll just end up right back in. I say we should switch over to the system that some of the Northern European countries use. It focuses on giving inmates valuable knowledge and education to teach them why what they did shouldn't be done, and how to start their life over (job training, stuff like that).
As far as death sentence goes, I feel that it is only to be used in the most heinous of crimes. First off, it should not be used if anybody is found to be mentally ill. That's messed up, killing somebody for something that really might not be their fault. Next, it should only be done for things that are pre-meditated. The coldly planned and executed crimes. Lastly, nothing short of torture+murders* deserves death. Those people who'll lock somebody up for months or years, torturing and raping them, and then beating them to death or something like that, have it coming. There are situations where I think an eye for an eye is acceptable. Anything less, give them life and allow their guilt to slowly eat away at them.

I also think a lot can be done over how we carry it out. This whole "lethal injection" method is possibly the stupidest thing I have ever heard. Give multiple, unnecessary injections that end up being amazingly painful if done wrong?
Personally, I think it should be done by Nitrogen Asphyxiation when it is. What happens is that the pain you feel when you can't breath is due to CO2 build-up in your lungs, not lack of O2. However, when the air you breathe in is 100% N, the CO2 can easily be given out of the lungs, although O2 is not taken in. It is colorless, odorless, tasteless, and they feel now pain, and within a little under a minute, pass out, and then after a bit more, finally die.


*EDIT: Torture+Murder or murdering tens of hundreds of people (through a bombing, chemical, biological, etc. attack).
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I also think a lot can be done over how we carry it out. This whole "lethal injection" method is possibly the stupidest thing I have ever heard. Give multiple, unnecessary injections that end up being amazingly painful if done wrong?


That's something I forgot to address. I hate that method. In my opinion, just behead the people. No waste of chemicals or anything. Do it the old way. Hanging someone is risky though, as sometimes they're still alive. The way you brought up I suppose is good, but I'm still against chemicals.

You also talked about jail time, which could be a branch of this topic I suppose. I completely agree with you about the jail stuff, with them coming out and everything.

I'm iffy on the subject. I believe killing someone is wrong, even if they killed over one hundred people. Putting them to life is enough for me, because they can't do anything there. Yet you brought up good points with the intensity of the crimes. Rapists and everything... their kind is just sick, and I guess there are times where I'd feel that the death penalty should be executed.
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Nov 8 2009, 05:50 PM
That's something I forgot to address. I hate that method. In my opinion, just behead the people. No waste of chemicals or anything. Do it the old way. Hanging someone is risky though, as sometimes they're still alive. The way you brought up I suppose is good, but I'm still against chemicals.

The problem with beheading is that if you get a breath in before the ax comes down, you can actually survive like that for a good 10-15 seconds until the air supply in the blood you have in your head runs out. I have to say, it must be an interesting experience, but it's certainly not the way I want my final moment of consciousness to be.
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There's always shooting someone in the back of their head. Isn't there supposed to be a spot that's quick & painless?
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I'd prefer a firing squad.
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I have always thought life in prison is a lot more of a punishment then getting killed and ending everything instantly... I know i would much rather be put down then suffer for 50 years or whatever
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^ exactly my point.

There was a man, I don't remember who, that's been on death sentence or whatever for quite some time. He said at this rate, he'd rather just die. He said that staying alive is just too tormenting for him.
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Death Penalty is totally acceptable. Murder is murder, unless accidental. I don't care if it was in the heat of passion, that is just total jargon ******** meaning, "I was pissed". I do believe in second chances for most people, but when it comes down to it, a bullet would be too nice, and since we are at war prices on bullets have doubled so, that would be a very cost ineffective way.

Axe to the neck would be suffice, can't let the pedophiles and such get off that lucky with a quick and painless death.
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I'd also prefer that my tax goes towards something more benificial than housing a murderer.
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