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Topic Started: Sep 4 2010, 10:19 AM (130 Views)
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In just 285 at-bats out of the two-hole, Swisher has 15 homers (second best in the majors) and 42 RBIs.
Nevertheless, Jeter will continue to bat first or second. Not because he deserves that. But because his name is Derek Jeter.


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-Lucky for the Yankees Joel is not part of the decision making team. He does not understand quantitative and qualitative reasoning. Jeter needs to get going, but the team is doing well. Why mess with the psych of the team when it is going good? Just because Joel got a C in statistics.

-As soon as I saw the headline I knew it had to be Sherman. His contempt for all things yankees is so obvious. It p___es him off they they have won seven in a row so he has to stir some you know what. Take a stab at professionalism, pencil neck..

-Give him a week off,then watch him heat up in sept. thru the playoffs,the man always shows up,hes earned the right,and hes alawys delivered in the pennant drive and playoffs.hes not young anymore,he guy needs the rest


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Sep 4 2010, 12:08 PM
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-Lucky for the Yankees Joel is not part of the decision making team. He does not understand quantitative and qualitative reasoning. Jeter needs to get going, but the team is doing well. Why mess with the psych of the team when it is going good? Just because Joel got a C in statistics.

-As soon as I saw the headline I knew it had to be Sherman. His contempt for all things yankees is so obvious. It p___es him off they they have won seven in a row so he has to stir some you know what. Take a stab at professionalism, pencil neck..

-Give him a week off,then watch him heat up in sept. thru the playoffs,the man always shows up,hes earned the right,and hes alawys delivered in the pennant drive and playoffs.hes not young anymore,he guy needs the rest


Read more: http://newyorkpost.com/p/sports/yankees/what_in_name_yOoYY6OoL6TNOMdSoGhpjP#ixzz0yZsF6Jul


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I honestly believe that stupid people like that should be put to sleep. It's the perfect answer to overpopulation.
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Once I'm done reading an article on either the Post's or the DN's website I move on don't even bother with the comments because I know Yankee fans are going to say stupid stuff.
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His upcoming free agency is either going to be very easy or very complicated. The Yankees could just give him the blank check, but as one AL executive said, “Derek Jeter is a two-year, $8 million-a-year player in the open market. :yes: The Yankees hold all the cards. I’m sure everything will be done with great respect for him and they will overpay to keep him around. But the threat of Derek going somewhere else for more than the Yankees will offer? I don’t think so.’’ Boston Globe :laugh: :smirk:
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Sep 5 2010, 07:40 PM
His upcoming free agency is either going to be very easy or very complicated. The Yankees could just give him the blank check, but as one AL executive said, “Derek Jeter is a two-year, $8 million-a-year player in the open market. The Yankees hold all the cards. I’m sure everything will be done with great respect for him and they will overpay to keep him around. But the threat of Derek going somewhere else for more than the Yankees will offer? I don’t think so.’’
There was NEVER a threat of Jeter going somewhere else for more than the Yankees would offer. Even if he duplicated last season's numbers, he wouldn't get $19M/year on the market.
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The guy is going to be making close to $25 mil per season to bat .265 over the next four years. Yankee fans should be embarrassed about that but 'he's Derek Jeter, captain clutch, he always comes through.' He's going to be a major liability and nobody gives a sh*t. Yankee fans don't really care about winning it's all about this dumbass 'respect' sh*t. These fools who think he deserves a big four year deal also thought Joe Torre should've been allowed to stick around after 7 years of doing nothing when he should've been gone after 2003.
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The guy is going to be making close to $25 mil per season to bat .265 over the next four years. Yankee fans should be embarrassed about that but 'he's Derek Jeter, captain clutch, he always comes through.' He's going to be a major liability and nobody gives a sh*t. Yankee fans don't really care about winning it's all about this dumbass 'respect' sh*t. These fools who think he deserves a big four year deal also thought Joe Torre should've been allowed to stick around after 7 years of doing nothing when he should've been gone after 2003.
I disagree. I think TypicalYankeesFan does care about winning. Winning is what his team's reputation was built on; it's what allows him to strut with pride and feel like a superior fan. But he's just ignorant/arrogant enough to think a) everything will work out fine regardless or b) the person will step it up and things will be different next year. With Jeter, I think it's A and B and the fact that he's Jeter and can't be disrespected. They don't think re-signing him will at all compromise winning. And I don't think it will next season. There aren't any good free agents option at SS and I expect Jeter to bounce back and have a better 2011 (I don't know how much better, but better). I think the contract will be a problem in 2012-2014. As he approaches 40 and the skills really begin to erode and it's no longer "just a bad season," it's "he's old and doesn't have it anymore." When better options at SS have emerged and there isn't sh*t the Yankees can do about it because they're stuck. When Cano is the only starting infielder on this team not in his mid 30s or older. A-Rod will probably need a HoveRound by then. That's when people will be laughing at this team. They'll either have to live with it and take a step back or they'll do some insane overspending trying to stock the outfield with stars to compensate. The pitching staff, too, to compensate for Burnett. It starts next year when they give Cliff Lee a huge contract with more years than a 33-year-old should get. And there'll be more after that. And it'll have stemmed from shortsighted contract extensions. :no1:

btw - How come people didn't kill the Yankees for A-Rod's 10-year/$275-300M extension? Everyone mocked the Rangers for the $252M. At least he was 25 then and regarded as the best player in the game still with upside. The Yankees did it when he was 32.
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Because A-Rod is still a top player and even in his worst year he is a 30 HR 120 RBI guy. He has been sh*t most of this year and he's been injured numerous times and even had a DL stint and he's still has over 100 RBI with 30 games to go.

Comparing A-Rod to Jeter is downright retarded. Yet people, including your black ass, continue to do it. A-Rod is on another planet talent wise. When A-Rod breaks down and is a old man at DH, he's still going to hit 25-35 HR and knock in over 110 RBI. When Jeter is broken down, you will get the garbage he has been this year, most likely worse.
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I honestly don't think Jeter is going to have any spectacular years from here on out. There aren't any much better options at Short? Fine, I agree with that, doesn't mean I have to like that he's going to be hurting this team for the majority of his next contract. Even if he's better next year than he's been this season, it wouldn't take much, it's not like he'd need to have a great or even good season to top the total shet year he's had.
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Because A-Rod is still a top player and even in his worst year he is a 30 HR 120 RBI guy. He has been sh*t most of this year and he's been injured numerous times and even had a DL stint and he's still has over 100 RBI with 30 games to go.

Comparing A-Rod to Jeter is downright retarded. Yet people, including your black ass, continue to do it. A-Rod is on another planet talent wise. When A-Rod breaks down and is a old man at DH, he's still going to hit 25-35 HR and knock in over 110 RBI. When Jeter is broken down, you will get the garbage he has been this year, most likely worse.
I'm not comparing the two, you Mexican. I'm lumping them together as players who'll be extremely overpaid and mediocre down the road. And you're one sunshiney motherf*cker if you think A-Rod will be hitting 35 and 110 when he's 42. He's been injured a bunch this year, the DL stints, the bad hip, the lack of a sustained hot streak. Do you think it gets better? He's 35. This is what happens to athletes as they approach 40. Which one not on steroids maintained their level of play or improved as their career wound down? The steroid era and the "he works out really hard" sh*t has gotten you forgetting that 35+ is old and there's still such a thing as washed up.

No sh*t, A-Rod will outproduce Jeter. I've never compared the players. I called Yankees fans idiots for putting Jeter in his class when there were the "Big 3" arguments. I've said before, I didn't put Jeter on Nomar's level. Obviously, in A-Rod's season, he'll surpass Jeter's career highs in homers and RBIs. But think ahead, *****. They're both gonna suck in 3-5 years. And the Yankees will be stuck with them. Two old assholes hobbling around on the left side, no range, and they're making a combined $50M to be .265 hitters. But you'll be OK with 40-year-old A-Rod because his 23 and 85 will be better than Jeter's. :clap:
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If they had any sense, they'd learn from the silly Posada contract and give Jeter 1yr deals from here on out. Fueck the nostalgia, potential 3000hits or that they "owe" him anything. He made $189million the last contract and at this point, he's close to DONE !
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Year-to-year would absolutely make the most sense, but you know Jeter would never agree to that in one million years and the fans would flip and sometimes organizations do make decisions with consideration to not pissing off the fanbase. Sadly 90% of the Yankee fanbase is idiotic, to them Jeter is Jeter, the captain, mr. clutch who never fecks up, and if he wants a 10-year deal he should get it.
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For what it's worth, the Yankees continued to pay Mantle $100,000 right through his '68 season. It's easy to get upset about but this kind of thing is always going to happen. So long as it doesn't hinder any other moves in the offseason, it really isn't going to matter.
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Sep 7 2010, 08:41 AM
For what it's worth, the Yankees continued to pay Mantle $100,000 right through his '68 season. It's easy to get upset about but this kind of thing is always going to happen. So long as it doesn't hinder any other moves in the offseason, it really isn't going to matter.

I hear ya, but it will matter in the field a couple years from now. Mariano volunteered to go year by year. For all I care, let them give Jeter a raise to $20 million/yr with a $20 million bonus when he hits 3000, but year to year!

This way he gets way overpayed (so no complaints) and gets the milestone and then when he's done, we're not stuck. I care more about the product on the field, rather than the money.... give him the money but don't get tied into another "posada/burnett" contract. :peace:
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What we need to hope is that Derek Jeter cares more about his .310+ career average than 3,500 Hits. The last 5 years of Cal Ripken's career are the worst case scenario here. Lets hope Jeter doesn't let his career turn into the .260/.310/.400 a year mess that Cal did.
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