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Mussina wants 3 year deal from Yanks
Topic Started: Oct 4 2008, 03:28 PM (188 Views)
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Right-hander Mike Mussina, 39, indicated that if he returns to the Yankees, he would like a three-year deal. Mussina, whose 18-year career has been spent with the Orioles and Yankees, also is hinting that if he doesn't return to the Yankees, he could retire because he doesn't want to become a vagabond


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Right-hander Mike Mussina, 39, indicated that if he returns to the Yankees, he would like a three-year deal. Mussina, whose 18-year career has been spent with the Orioles and Yankees, also is hinting that if he doesn't return to the Yankees, he could retire because he doesn't want to become a vagabond

As Al Leiter said on the air, if he comes back he is pretty much committed at that point to going for 300. It likely would take 3 years to get to 300. I don't know how I feel about this. I'd give him 2 years max, no more no less. I mean if he pitches well those two years he will either be at or very close to 300 and at that point you can discuss coming back for maybe another year. That's a long way off, but you can't give a 40 year old pitcher 3 years, two years max.
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In other words he's retiring. He knows he's not gonna get 3 years from the Yanks.
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Oct 4 2008, 04:18 PM
In other words he's retiring. He knows he's not gonna get 3 years from the Yanks.

If he wants it bad enough he will come down to 2 years.
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Oct 4 2008, 04:46 PM
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Oct 4 2008, 04:18 PM
In other words he's retiring. He knows he's not gonna get 3 years from the Yanks.

If he wants it bad enough he will come down to 2 years.

Right on...if he pitches well enough for those 2 seasons to get to 300 or to be sniffing it...he'll get his third year....as a matter of fact they can go 2 years with an option and he can earn the third like he earned getting a shot at another deal this year.
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Three is out of the question and the Yankees are stupid assholes who'd deserve another embarassing season if they even consider giving Mussina another 2-year deal. If this situation doesn't remind you of 2006, you straight trippin'.
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Oct 5 2008, 10:36 AM
Three is out of the question and the Yankees are stupid assholes who'd deserve another embarassing season if they even consider giving Mussina another 2-year deal. If this situation doesn't remind you of 2006, you straight trippin'.

Two years is a harmless deal though. He comes in here as the 5th starter so you can be more patient with him. If you got 12 wins and a 4.5 ERA out of a 5th starter you could swallow that and live with it. If he gives you a good year and a bad year you can then take solace in the fact that he's gone next year. Nothing wrong with a 2 year deal, especially if that means we don't have to see Pettitte's face but I don't have confidence in this orginization that they will just cut ties with PEttitte.
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Three is out of the question and the Yankees are stupid assholes who'd deserve another embarassing season if they even consider giving Mussina another 2-year deal. If this situation doesn't remind you of 2006, you straight trippin'.

Two years is a harmless deal though. He comes in here as the 5th starter so you can be more patient with him. If you got 12 wins and a 4.5 ERA out of a 5th starter you could swallow that and live with it. If he gives you a good year and a bad year you can then take solace in the fact that he's gone next year. Nothing wrong with a 2 year deal, especially if that means we don't have to see Pettitte's face but I don't have confidence in this orginization that they will just cut ties with PEttitte.

If Mussina comes back, he'll be penciled in as the #4. The Yanks will (I hope) sign one high caliber starter such as Sab or Bur and #5 will be up for grabs between Hughes, Aceves, Coke and Kennedy. :peace:


I just pray they don't bring back Pettite. :no1:
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Three is out of the question and the Yankees are stupid assholes who'd deserve another embarassing season if they even consider giving Mussina another 2-year deal. If this situation doesn't remind you of 2006, you straight trippin'.

Two years is a harmless deal though. He comes in here as the 5th starter so you can be more patient with him. If you got 12 wins and a 4.5 ERA out of a 5th starter you could swallow that and live with it. If he gives you a good year and a bad year you can then take solace in the fact that he's gone next year. Nothing wrong with a 2 year deal, especially if that means we don't have to see Pettitte's face but I don't have confidence in this orginization that they will just cut ties with PEttitte.

If Mussina comes back, he'll be penciled in as the #4. The Yanks will (I hope) sign one high caliber starter such as Sab or Bur and #5 will be up for grabs between Hughes, Aceves, Coke and Kennedy. :peace:


I just pray they don't bring back Pettite. :no1:

Pettitte is coming back you can pretty much bank on that. :puke:
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Thank God Vin isn't running this team.
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Oct 5 2008, 06:28 PM
Thank God Vin isn't running this team.

I'd sign Mussina for two years and bring in CC and Burnett and have the following rotation.

CC
Wang
Burnett
Joba
Mussina

I'd try and deal Cano for Kemp or McClouth because I'm tired of Cano and obviously we need a CF next year cause you don't want to go into next year with Melky and Gardner as your options. If I get a CFer I can let Abreu walk. If I don't I would consider bringing him back for two years take it or leave it as a DH/RF along with Manny who I would bring in. I try and talk to Matsui about trying 1B, if he isn't willing to give it a shot I try and trade him. If I can deal Cano I then sign Orlando Hudson to play 2B.


What would you do?
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If Moose and Pettitte both came back next season Pettitte would be good and Moose would suck. The next year they would switch. Its all random, f*ck it. Throw darts at names and then sign them.
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Whoever takes the one year deal gets to come back. Don't really care who it is.

C.C.
Wang
Joba
Hughes/ FA
Pettitte/Mussina.

I can live with that.
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Oct 5 2008, 07:33 PM
Whoever takes the one year deal gets to come back. Don't really care who it is.

C.C.
Wang
Joba
Hughes/ FA
Pettitte/Mussina.

I can live with that.

Gun to head right now if I had to choose between 2 years to Moose or 1 to Pettitte I'm taking Moose. I don't want to see Pettitte's face again but with our luck they will both be back. :wall:
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If both are brought back you would have to hope they'd also get Sabbathia and that early in the season Hughes would maybe step up and force either of them to the bullpen or sent packing. Tell them that straight up and if they don't want the possibility of being supplanted mideason they can retire. It's not like for the price they're going to command you can't get a similar pitcher.
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Oct 5 2008, 08:11 PM
If both are brought back you would have to hope they'd also get Sabbathia and that early in the season Hughes would maybe step up and force either of them to the bullpen or sent packing. Tell them that straight up and if they don't want the possibility of being supplanted mideason they can retire. It's not like for the price they're going to command you can't get a similar pitcher.

If they bring them both back you can kiss 2009 goodbye.
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If both are brought back you would have to hope they'd also get Sabbathia and that early in the season Hughes would maybe step up and force either of them to the bullpen or sent packing.  Tell them that straight up and if they don't want the possibility of being supplanted mideason they can retire.  It's not like for the price they're going to command you can't get a similar pitcher.

If they bring them both back you can kiss 2009 goodbye.

AGREED!!!! That would be a horrible though typical Yankee move. I hope they go Bernie style on Pettitte.....I don't want that douche back in Pinstripes!
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If you bring them both back in addition to CC I think they'd fine. You'd have 6 starters for 5 spots and run out the best 5.

CC
Wang
Joba
Pettite/Moose/Hughes
Pettite/Moose/Hughes
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If both are brought back you would have to hope they'd also get Sabbathia and that early in the season Hughes would maybe step up and force either of them to the bullpen or sent packing.  Tell them that straight up and if they don't want the possibility of being supplanted mideason they can retire.  It's not like for the price they're going to command you can't get a similar pitcher.

If they bring them both back you can kiss 2009 goodbye.

I completely agree, that better not happen.
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I think 2 years is too much. He had a good year, but don't forget 2007. He's capable of going 5-16 5+ ERA next year.

Also, he'll want 22m for 2 years. I can live with 11m or 12m for one year, but two?
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If both are brought back you would have to hope they'd also get Sabbathia and that early in the season Hughes would maybe step up and force either of them to the bullpen or sent packing.  Tell them that straight up and if they don't want the possibility of being supplanted mideason they can retire.  It's not like for the price they're going to command you can't get a similar pitcher.

If they bring them both back you can kiss 2009 goodbye.

I completely agree, that better not happen.

It could easily happen if we miss out on both CC and Burnett. Which I'm starting to think is a possibility.
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If both are brought back you would have to hope they'd also get Sabbathia and that early in the season Hughes would maybe step up and force either of them to the bullpen or sent packing.  Tell them that straight up and if they don't want the possibility of being supplanted mideason they can retire.  It's not like for the price they're going to command you can't get a similar pitcher.

If they bring them both back you can kiss 2009 goodbye.

I completely agree, that better not happen.

It could easily happen if we miss out on both CC and Burnett. Which I'm starting to think is a possibility.

Sure it's a possibility, but it's possible we get one of them both of them or none of them. Who really knows right now, it's all speculation. I tell you this much, if we do miss out on both I would target Dempster, Sheets or Freddy Garcia before I bring that slob Pettitte back. I'd rather work out a trade for a Peavy or even an Oswalt before I signed any of the guys I mentioned. I don't particularly care for any of them for different reasons but I can't stand Pettitte anymore.
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If both are brought back you would have to hope they'd also get Sabbathia and that early in the season Hughes would maybe step up and force either of them to the bullpen or sent packing.  Tell them that straight up and if they don't want the possibility of being supplanted mideason they can retire.  It's not like for the price they're going to command you can't get a similar pitcher.

If they bring them both back you can kiss 2009 goodbye.

I completely agree, that better not happen.

It could easily happen if we miss out on both CC and Burnett. Which I'm starting to think is a possibility.

Sure it's a possibility, but it's possible we get one of them both of them or none of them. Who really knows right now, it's all speculation. I tell you this much this much, if we do miss out on both I would target Dempster, Sheets or Freddy Garcia before I bring that slob Pettitte back.

I completely agree with the last part. If the HGH abusing scumbag wants to keep playing that's fine, go back to Houston.
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No matter who they get, no more Pettite. Did cashman develop amnesia and forget how bad Pettite was the whole 2nd half of the year??? :wtf: As bad as Hughes and Kennedy pitched, they're rooks. And what can you reasonably expect from Rasner or Ponson? Bottom line, Pettite single handedly pitched us out of the playoffs! :fyou:
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I don't know if I'd say Pettitte single handedly pitched us out of the playoffs, but his putrid season certainly didn't help matters. It's ok though, he came up through the Yankee organization so he gets a pass, this type of season obviously wouldn't happen again.
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