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My Tentative Lineup For Next Year
Topic Started: Aug 14 2008, 10:14 AM (853 Views)
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Aug 15 2008, 08:09 PM
I actually need to add new songs to my MP3 player, so I just checked back. Apparently, the game is in rain delay.

Let me just say, with over 6 billion people in the world, there's plenty of room to want piece of sh*t people dead. We cry no tears over poor soldiers in Iraq and Afghanistan. Yet, the piece of sh*t civilians here, and there are many, have lives that are valued in gold by the mainstream. I don't see why. Society could do with less condescending, elitist pieces of sh*t. If I had to go to take out a few of em, I would. I just wish more people felt the same. At least I'd make a positive impact on this country, albeit small. I guess I'm a vigilante at heart. And it's not necessarily criminals that need to go. It's the ones that go through society unchecked.

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<_<

But really, let's talk some baseball. I hate getting worked up thinking about things. It makes me depressed
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Aug 15 2008, 08:20 PM
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But really, let's talk some baseball. I hate getting worked up thinking about things. It makes me depressed

Why are you so worked up, I've been talking baseball!!!!!!!
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Aug 15 2008, 06:40 PM
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Aug 15 2008, 10:49 AM
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Aug 15 2008, 10:16 AM
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Aug 15 2008, 08:49 AM
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Aug 15 2008, 09:05 AM
You're right on Darvish, Strider. I think I posted the highlight. At first I was looking at the results like an idiot. But really, his ball doesn't have great natural movement to it at all. I was blown away with Dice-K's highlights before he came here. Darvish doesn't really have impressive looking stuff, at least from those clips

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h26pkQpVB1I


If you see that slider as being anything less than dynamic you are blind.

It's good. It ain't great. The Japanese ballplayers swinging wildly at it are the joke of that clip. A slider is supposed to look like a strike and then break. A lot of times, those sliders never even appeared to be strikes. They also didn't have a dramatic break to them. They appeared slow and went down and away without much of a break. Watch when Joba eats up a lefty with a slider down and in, how the slider appears to be a strike and then totally breaks fast and sharp. Darvish don't have that. Hell, I can see a good lefty golfing one of those sliders out of the park. It certainly doesn't look very fast. A major league hitter could wait back on that. He could only get our hitters out on those. His fastball don't look anything special, and we all know, pitchers gotta play off their fastball in the bigs.

No speed? His slider averages 85 mph, the same as Joba. You wrote a big block of text analyzing something and not knowing what you are talking about. Darvish's secondary pitches might not be great, but his slider is awesome and that's not up for debate. Anybody who has seen him pitch, and who knows what they are talking about, will agree and have already agreed.

I've watched that clip you posted twice and I'll watch it again. Where exactly does his slider start off looking like a strike and break off the table? Maybe the speed is the same as Joba, I dunno, but the break to it certainly ain't impressing me.

Do you know nothing about baseball??? Do you really need to watch that clip again? Are you kidding me, right??? You can clearly see what Roberto is talking about, not very difficult! :laugh:

First one: it's clearly a ball and it looks more like a changeup. The batter lays off until the last second and still swings at it. The ball is in the dirt when he starts his swing.

Second one: Looked slow. It moved more like a curveball down and a little away from the right-hander. Nice movement, but I can see from that how House would call it slow.

Third one: Missed the outside corner.

Fourth one: Looked impressive. But, again, it looked more like a 75 mph curveball.

Fifth one: Had a sharper downward break and looked harder.

Sixth one: Way outside and clearly a ball. Darvish started it off the plate and the black guy (right-handed Cliff Floyd) chased it.


I'm gonna agree with House. The slider isn't that impressive.

Now I'm gonna read the rest of the thread.
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Aug 15 2008, 07:26 PM
DrGregoryHouse
Aug 15 2008, 08:20 PM
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But really, let's talk some baseball. I hate getting worked up thinking about things. It makes me depressed

Why are you so worked up, I've been talking baseball!!!!!!!

You're right. I forgot. Yu Darvish has a Randy Johnson in his prime like slider. It starts off like a fastball tempting the hitter to swing and then drops to their feet. He'll be an ace. End thread.
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Strizzle, I read he has a curveball like that which gets confused with the slider. That real slow one really is a curve most likely. It don't look too great, but it drops well for a curve. Still don't see what the batter was swinging at though. Never looked like a strike at any point
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Aug 15 2008, 08:28 PM
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Aug 15 2008, 06:29 PM
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Aug 15 2008, 09:05 AM
You're right on Darvish, Strider. I think I posted the highlight. At first I was looking at the results like an idiot. But really, his ball doesn't have great natural movement to it at all. I was blown away with Dice-K's highlights before he came here. Darvish doesn't really have impressive looking stuff, at least from those clips

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h26pkQpVB1I


If you see that slider as being anything less than dynamic you are blind.

It's good. It ain't great. The Japanese ballplayers swinging wildly at it are the joke of that clip. A slider is supposed to look like a strike and then break. A lot of times, those sliders never even appeared to be strikes. They also didn't have a dramatic break to them. They appeared slow and went down and away without much of a break. Watch when Joba eats up a lefty with a slider down and in, how the slider appears to be a strike and then totally breaks fast and sharp. Darvish don't have that. Hell, I can see a good lefty golfing one of those sliders out of the park. It certainly doesn't look very fast. A major league hitter could wait back on that. He could only get our hitters out on those. His fastball don't look anything special, and we all know, pitchers gotta play off their fastball in the bigs.

No speed? His slider averages 85 mph, the same as Joba. You wrote a big block of text analyzing something and not knowing what you are talking about. Darvish's secondary pitches might not be great, but his slider is awesome and that's not up for debate. Anybody who has seen him pitch, and who knows what they are talking about, will agree and have already agreed.

I've watched that clip you posted twice and I'll watch it again. Where exactly does his slider start off looking like a strike and break off the table? Maybe the speed is the same as Joba, I dunno, but the break to it certainly ain't impressing me.

Do you know nothing about baseball??? Do you really need to watch that clip again? Are you kidding me, right??? You can clearly see what Roberto is talking about, not very difficult! :laugh:

First one: it's clearly a ball and it looks more like a changeup. The batter lays off until the last second and still swings at it. The ball is in the dirt when he starts his swing.

Second one: Looked slow. It moved more like a curveball down and a little away from the right-hander. Nice movement, but I can see from that how House would call it slow.

Third one: Missed the outside corner.

Fourth one: Looked impressive. But, again, it looked more like a 75 mph curveball.

Fifth one: Had a sharper downward break and looked harder.

Sixth one: Way outside and clearly a ball. Darvish started it off the plate and the black guy (right-handed Cliff Floyd) chased it.


I'm gonna agree with House. The slider isn't that impressive.

Now I'm gonna read the rest of the thread.

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Well sTrisz, it's obvious neither of you cats know anything about baseball. :laugh2: :thumbup:
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Any ideas for my MP3 player. This thread is turning into a chat room page. Nowhere near the subject it once was on
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Vin, you're on some real instigator sh*t tonight. You started with House and it really looked like you were trying to get him worked up. And that "you're a racist" sh*t came outta nowhere.

Frankly, I think every person is at least a little discriminatory in some way. Even if you don't hate groups, you have your preferences. If a white person tells me that they prefer to be around white people and don't particularly like blacks, I wouldn't have a problem with it. A lot of black people would tell you the same thing about white people. I don't hate people who haven't given me reason to hate them (so it's usually a case-by-case thing), but I don't like Muslims. Not liking doesn't equate to hate. I just have no reason to like. And sh*t, if black people don't piss you off at least a little bit, you're either not paying attention or you're lying.

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Strider and yourself need to stick more to football, Strider hardly even watches baseball so his opinion on this means jack sh*t and I'm sure he would agree as he has stated he gives up on baseball frequently and hardly watches.


I wouldn't say "hardly." And you should know that I'd never agree to someone saying my opinion means jack sh*t. And I don't give up on [I think you meant the Yankees] frequently. You're the one who makes the weekly "I'm done" threads. You have to actually believe in order to give up. I said in May 2005 that until the team underwent drastic changes that I'd predict a playoff berth and a first-round exit every season. They made the playoffs and lost in the first round in 2005. The next year, the same thing. The year after that, too. So far, I've been right. When BC made the "playoffs or not" thread, I held to that 2005 prediction. It's a little iffy now, them making the playoffs, but I'll stand by it. The reason you don't see me getting worked up like the rest of you is because, based on my evaluation of the the team and organization, I made a prediction three years ago that I believed in (and the rest of you should've believed it, too). Nothing has happened to cause me to deviate from it. And, hate me for it, but I'm not one of the happy-happy Jolly Club fans. I'm not that way with any sport. I'm already telling Giants fans to shut the f*ck up and shake off the Super Bowl stupor. I don't let fandom or excitement cloud my objectivity. So, with that, I didn't get worked up when the Yankees won 8 in a row after the All-Star break, nor do I get worked up when they f*ck up and drop a series to the Orioles. All of it, to me, is to be expected. Because that's pretty much what the team has been for several years. I'm not playing the rollercoaster game anymore. If that makes me a non-baseball fan or fairweather, call it what you want. But don't qestion my knowledge of the sport. I'm 22 and Alzeimer's hasn't kicked in yet. I haven't forgotten the game.

Back to the topic: Vin, you still haven't identified any of his sliders that start up looking like fastballs and then break down and in/away. I'm not saying that he doesn't have "stuff." If that was a curveball he was throwing on a couple those, it looked good. But the slider doesn't dazzle. Part of the slider's effect is supposed to be deception. It's not just about the movement. His starts to dart in the direction that it's headed the second it leaves his hand. It doesn't change it's plane at the last mili-second. There's 50 mediocre middle relievers with similar non-deceptive sliders. If you want to say that he's got talent, go ahead, I won't argue. I'll give him the curveball. But don't dickride his slider because you heard he's got a good one and you saw a 90-second highlight where a couple of guys who would (or did) hit .213 in the big leagues chasing pitches a foot outside.

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Any ideas for my MP3 player.

The Game & Lil' Wayne - My Life
Lil' Wayne - Shoot Me Down
Ludacris - What Them Girls Like
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I agree 100% on Darvish. I see talent, but for a very heavy pricetag, I'm not sure he'd be dazzling big league hitters. What's the thing on his fastball though? I read it's in the high 90s. It don't look like it has great of movement, but he appears to hit his spots well. If it's really that high, that changes things A LOT.
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I liked your Jay Z suggestions years ago and that Eminem/Nate Dogg song. I don't usually have a lot of rap though.

But let me ask you. There was a music video I saw a year or so ago with Nate Dogg doing the chorus as like a funeral guy. It was from the first chronic. It was a good song. I tried finding it, but I couldn't. Do you know what it is?
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For the posting fee and the contract Darvish would get he'd have to be a bonafide ace. I don't think he is, at least right away so it's not worth it.

Sabbathia is a borderline must but I'm not sure he'd want to come here. Plus he has to show something in the playoffs this year because last year he sh*t the bed against Boston and the last thing we need as a regular season compiler and not a big game player.

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But let me ask you. There was a music video I saw a year or so ago with Nate Dogg doing the chorus as like a funeral guy. It was from the first chronic. It was a good song. I tried finding it, but I couldn't. Do you know what it is?


Not sure. It was off the old, early 90s "Chronic" album?
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"The Chronic" is a great CD, period. Download the whole thing.
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But let me ask you. There was a music video I saw a year or so ago with Nate Dogg doing the chorus as like a funeral guy. It was from the first chronic. It was a good song. I tried finding it, but I couldn't. Do you know what it is?


Not sure. It was off the old, early 90s "Chronic" album?

It was a bonus track or something. The music video featured Nate Dogg as like a mortician singing the chorus with the usual suspects like Dre in it
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