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My Tentative Lineup For Next Year
Topic Started: Aug 14 2008, 10:14 AM (857 Views)
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My mistake on the Day Jesus front. Apparently, KC locked him down until 11. He was rumored for trade, but it was definitely a bad source, considering they mentioned him being a free agent after next year. He is not that. No biggue. They just have to fill CF. If Austin Jackson is the only rookie in the lineup batting 9th, I couldn't complain. But please, I'm SICK of Melky. Do something
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I'd definitely go for Manny over Bradley but this is one of the rare times where I agree with MM that if he wants 5 years he can go somewhere else and find it. I say offer him 3 for $75 and tell him to take it or leave it. If he's smart, he'll take it.
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Aug 14 2008, 11:19 AM
I want:

LF - Damon
SS - Jeter
DH - Ramirez
3B - A-Rod
1B - Teixeira
RF - Xady
C - Posada
CF - Who knows? Jackson could be ready by June 1st, if not earlier.


What will happen:

DH - Damon
SS - Jeter
RF - Abreu
3B - A-Rod
1B - Posada
LF - Xady
C - Pudge
CF - Muelky/Gardner

What are you willing to throw at Teixiera? I feel hard-pressed to want him badly if his pricetag is as high as rumored.
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Aug 14 2008, 06:36 PM
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Aug 14 2008, 11:19 AM
I want:

LF - Damon
SS - Jeter
DH - Ramirez
3B - A-Rod
1B - Teixeira
RF - Xady
C  - Posada
CF - Who knows?  Jackson could be ready by June 1st, if not earlier.


What will happen:

DH - Damon
SS - Jeter
RF - Abreu
3B - A-Rod
1B - Posada
LF - Xady
C  - Pudge
CF - Muelky/Gardner

What are you willing to throw at Teixiera? I feel hard-pressed to want him badly if his pricetag is as high as rumored.

The guy is 28 years old and plays a great 1B. He's going to get more than he's worth, but who on the Yankees doesn't? Give him the Giambi contract. I'd be thrilled with .285 35 HR 115 RBI playing great 1B for us the next 6 or 7 years.
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Aug 14 2008, 08:09 PM
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Aug 14 2008, 06:36 PM
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Aug 14 2008, 11:19 AM
I want:

LF - Damon
SS - Jeter
DH - Ramirez
3B - A-Rod
1B - Teixeira
RF - Xady
C  - Posada
CF - Who knows?  Jackson could be ready by June 1st, if not earlier.


What will happen:

DH - Damon
SS - Jeter
RF - Abreu
3B - A-Rod
1B - Posada
LF - Xady
C  - Pudge
CF - Muelky/Gardner

What are you willing to throw at Teixiera? I feel hard-pressed to want him badly if his pricetag is as high as rumored.

The guy is 28 years old and plays a great 1B. He's going to get more than he's worth, but who on the Yankees doesn't? Give him the Giambi contract. I'd be thrilled with .285 35 HR 115 RBI playing great 1B for us the next 6 or 7 years.

ditto
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Yeah, I'd be thrilled if they get Teixeira with the Giambi contract. He supposedly wants 10 years, $230 million, but that's pure silliness(tm) on Boras' part.

Speaking of which, forget what Manny and Boras want. If he wants to come home and torment Boston, he can take or leave a 3 year deal for no more than $20 million per.
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This team needs and overhaul, it will be impossible to win a World Series with the group we have now. Missing the playoffs might even be for the best, because it would force them to make major changes. I want Giambi, Matsui, and Abreu out of here so badly.

Sabathia and Teixeira are the must haves this offseason. I wouldn't have minded Dunn to DH and play some LF, but now that he's going to as for $100m, forget it. Get me Manny or Milton Bradley.

Get me a really good #3 starter, whether it's Sheets, Burnett, Darvish, whoever. Don't count out us going after Oliver Perez either. He was fantastic last year and has been awesome since the ASB. He may come cheap as a #4th starter. But then again there's always the NL Trash factor.

Either way, a lot of money of coming off the books, and a lot better be going back on.
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Like I said, Cashman has had his eyes on this offseason for awhile to clean out the roster, and retool.

I obviously want no part of Darvish and his silly posting fee, but I'd love the other pitchers, other than Oliver Perez, who will be overpaid, and frustrating with his hot and cold streaks. I would think Milwaukee will try to keep one of their guys, but if the cost gets too crazy on Sheets too, they could both be gone, and they would get a lot of sweet draft picks.
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Aug 14 2008, 12:46 PM
I'd LOVE Milton Bradley = the exact guy we need

He'd instantly be on the cool cats club! :rock:
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Aug 14 2008, 08:33 PM
Like I said, Cashman has had his eyes on this offseason for awhile to clean out the roster, and retool.

I obviously want no part of Darvish and his silly posting fee, but I'd love the other pitchers, other than Oliver Perez, who will be overpaid, and frustrating with his hot and cold streaks. I would think Milwaukee will try to keep one of their guys, but if the cost gets too crazy on Sheets too, they could both be gone, and they would get a lot of sweet draft picks.

The other day, Ken Rosenthal said the Brewers are not planning on signing either and are happy getting the draft picks. :peace:
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Aug 14 2008, 08:27 PM
This team needs and overhaul, it will be impossible to win a World Series with the group we have now. Missing the playoffs might even be for the best, because it would force them to make major changes. I want Giambi, Matsui, and Abreu out of here so badly.

Sabathia and Teixeira are the must haves this offseason. I wouldn't have minded Dunn to DH and play some LF, but now that he's going to as for $100m, forget it. Get me Manny or Milton Bradley.

Get me a really good #3 starter, whether it's Sheets, Burnett, Darvish, whoever. Don't count out us going after Oliver Perez either. He was fantastic last year and has been awesome since the ASB. He may come cheap as a #4th starter. But then again there's always the NL Trash factor.

Either way, a lot of money of coming off the books, and a lot better be going back on.

:-|

Guaranteed, that sand chink sucks.
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I want:

LF - Damon
SS - Jeter
DH - Ramirez
3B - A-Rod
1B - Teixeira
RF - Xady
C  - Posada
CF - Who knows?  Jackson could be ready by June 1st, if not earlier.


What will happen:

DH - Damon
SS - Jeter
RF - Abreu
3B - A-Rod
1B - Posada
LF - Xady
C  - Pudge
CF - Muelky/Gardner

What are you willing to throw at Teixiera? I feel hard-pressed to want him badly if his pricetag is as high as rumored.

The guy is 28 years old and plays a great 1B. He's going to get more than he's worth, but who on the Yankees doesn't? Give him the Giambi contract. I'd be thrilled with .285 35 HR 115 RBI playing great 1B for us the next 6 or 7 years.

Giambi contract meaning over 20 a year he's making now or the 7 years, 120 Mil contract total? He's going to get an outlandish amount wherever he goes. I see where you're coming from though. You don't mind overpaying and perhaps we shouldn't. Like I said before though, the jew in me seems to be kicking in. I wish our payroll would get at least reasonable
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Aug 14 2008, 10:54 PM
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Aug 14 2008, 08:27 PM
This team needs and overhaul, it will be impossible to win a World Series with the group we have now.  Missing the playoffs might even be for the best, because it would force them to make major changes.  I want Giambi, Matsui, and Abreu out of here so badly.

Sabathia and Teixeira are the must haves this offseason.  I wouldn't have minded Dunn to DH and play some LF, but now that he's going to as for $100m, forget it.  Get me Manny or Milton Bradley. 

Get me a really good #3 starter, whether it's Sheets, Burnett, Darvish, whoever.  Don't count out us going after Oliver Perez either.  He was fantastic last year and has been awesome since the ASB.  He may come cheap as a #4th starter.  But then again there's always the NL Trash factor.

Either way, a lot of money of coming off the books, and a lot better be going back on.

:-|

Guaranteed, that sand chink sucks.

Yeah, just like Dice-K and his 14-2 record and 2.74 ERA sucks, right?

If he didn't miss a month he'd be looking at a 22-24 win season.
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Don't count out us going after Oliver Perez either


I was thinking about him today. If the Mets are smart, they keep him. He's shown he can win for them. He's a high-priced risk for anyone else. He'll get his share of dough. He won't be cheap
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On the Manny front, a lot of people are throwing out over 20 mil a year. I wouldn't dare touch him for that. The market for him shouldn't touch that figure. If it does, go for Bradley.
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Aug 14 2008, 11:11 PM
On the Manny front, a lot of people are throwing out over 20 mil a year. I wouldn't dare touch him for that. The market for him shouldn't touch that figure. If it does, go for Bradley.

Dunn is going to ask for over $100m, so forget him too. It's gotta be Manny or Bradley.
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On the Manny front, a lot of people are throwing out over 20 mil a year. I wouldn't dare touch him for that. The market for him shouldn't touch that figure. If it does, go for Bradley.

Dunn is going to ask for over $100m, so forget him too. It's gotta be Manny or Bradley.

What the f*ck? Dunn clears waivers at 13 mil and he's gonna want 100? 3 years 39-42 was what I figured he'd get. The balls on some of these (insert religion) agents
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On the Manny front, a lot of people are throwing out over 20 mil a year. I wouldn't dare touch him for that. The market for him shouldn't touch that figure. If it does, go for Bradley.

Dunn is going to ask for over $100m, so forget him too. It's gotta be Manny or Bradley.

What the f*ck? Dunn clears waivers at 13 mil and he's gonna want 100? 3 years 39-42 was what I figured he'd get. The balls on some of these (insert religion) agents

:-|
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On the Manny front, a lot of people are throwing out over 20 mil a year. I wouldn't dare touch him for that. The market for him shouldn't touch that figure. If it does, go for Bradley.

Dunn is going to ask for over $100m, so forget him too. It's gotta be Manny or Bradley.

What the f*ck? Dunn clears waivers at 13 mil and he's gonna want 100? 3 years 39-42 was what I figured he'd get. The balls on some of these (insert religion) agents

:-|

When you're representing Melky 3 years from now, I can't wait to see the pricetag you demand for his services
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On the Manny front, a lot of people are throwing out over 20 mil a year. I wouldn't dare touch him for that. The market for him shouldn't touch that figure. If it does, go for Bradley.

Dunn is going to ask for over $100m, so forget him too. It's gotta be Manny or Bradley.

What the f*ck? Dunn clears waivers at 13 mil and he's gonna want 100? 3 years 39-42 was what I figured he'd get. The balls on some of these (insert religion) agents

:-|

When you're representing Melky 3 years from now, I can't wait to see the pricetag you demand for his services

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On the Manny front, a lot of people are throwing out over 20 mil a year. I wouldn't dare touch him for that. The market for him shouldn't touch that figure. If it does, go for Bradley.

Dunn is going to ask for over $100m, so forget him too. It's gotta be Manny or Bradley.

What the f*ck? Dunn clears waivers at 13 mil and he's gonna want 100? 3 years 39-42 was what I figured he'd get. The balls on some of these (insert religion) agents

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Reds pitcher Bronson Arroyo spoke about the Adam Dunn trade today:

"He was going to be moved no matter what. I don't know if he told (the media) but he made it was no secret to us that he was looking for $100 to $120 million contract. I don't think this franchise is going to give out that kind of contract."


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On the Manny front, a lot of people are throwing out over 20 mil a year. I wouldn't dare touch him for that. The market for him shouldn't touch that figure. If it does, go for Bradley.

Dunn is going to ask for over $100m, so forget him too. It's gotta be Manny or Bradley.

What the f*ck? Dunn clears waivers at 13 mil and he's gonna want 100? 3 years 39-42 was what I figured he'd get. The balls on some of these (insert religion) agents

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Reds pitcher Bronson Arroyo spoke about the Adam Dunn trade today:

"He was going to be moved no matter what. I don't know if he told (the media) but he made it was no secret to us that he was looking for $100 to $120 million contract. I don't think this franchise is going to give out that kind of contract."


:wtf:

I believed ya. I was just saying that's ludicrous. He's not that type of player that should get that type of long-term security/salary. Hell, he should want to go on a year to year basis to see if he can get that average up. If he ever hit anywhere close to .300 with those power numbers, he could certainly justify attempting to get that type of payday.
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This team needs and overhaul, it will be impossible to win a World Series with the group we have now.  Missing the playoffs might even be for the best, because it would force them to make major changes.  I want Giambi, Matsui, and Abreu out of here so badly.

Sabathia and Teixeira are the must haves this offseason.  I wouldn't have minded Dunn to DH and play some LF, but now that he's going to as for $100m, forget it.  Get me Manny or Milton Bradley. 

Get me a really good #3 starter, whether it's Sheets, Burnett, Darvish, whoever.  Don't count out us going after Oliver Perez either.  He was fantastic last year and has been awesome since the ASB.  He may come cheap as a #4th starter.  But then again there's always the NL Trash factor.

Either way, a lot of money of coming off the books, and a lot better be going back on.

:-|

Guaranteed, that sand chink sucks.

Yeah, just like Dice-K and his 14-2 record and 2.74 ERA sucks, right?

If he didn't miss a month he'd be looking at a 22-24 win season.

Oh, so now you're getting on that Cashman sh*t. "Well, well, look at what Dice-K can do. And, over there, they say that Igawa guy is pretty good, too. He can be something. I mean, if he's even close to what Dice-K is we've got a steal. Hey, think of the marketing. K, as in strikeout, Igawa. Slick, huh. Ohhh yeah. Who's the man? Up top! Yeeeah, that's right." BULLSHIT!

He's a f*cking pothead pussyboy, just like his cousin Jeff Weaver. No more Chinese signings. Them and their posting fees and big contract demands can go suck out their mothers.
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This team needs and overhaul, it will be impossible to win a World Series with the group we have now.  Missing the playoffs might even be for the best, because it would force them to make major changes.  I want Giambi, Matsui, and Abreu out of here so badly.

Sabathia and Teixeira are the must haves this offseason.  I wouldn't have minded Dunn to DH and play some LF, but now that he's going to as for $100m, forget it.  Get me Manny or Milton Bradley. 

Get me a really good #3 starter, whether it's Sheets, Burnett, Darvish, whoever.  Don't count out us going after Oliver Perez either.  He was fantastic last year and has been awesome since the ASB.  He may come cheap as a #4th starter.  But then again there's always the NL Trash factor.

Either way, a lot of money of coming off the books, and a lot better be going back on.

:-|

Guaranteed, that sand chink sucks.

Yeah, just like Dice-K and his 14-2 record and 2.74 ERA sucks, right?

If he didn't miss a month he'd be looking at a 22-24 win season.

Oh, so now you're getting on that Cashman sh*t. "Well, well, look at what Dice-K can do. And, over there, they say that Igawa guy is pretty good, too. He can be something. I mean, if he's even close to what Dice-K is we've got a steal. Hey, think of the marketing. K, as in strikeout, Igawa. Slick, huh. Ohhh yeah. Who's the man? Up top! Yeeeah, that's right." BULLSHIT!

He's a f*cking pothead pussyboy, just like his cousin Jeff Weaver. No more Chinese signings. Them and their posting fees and big contract demands can go suck out their mothers.

I couldn't agree more. A couple Chinese players worked out pretty good for us, but most are disasters.
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Right on, Strider and YF03.
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If the Tigers look to move Magglio to shed salary that could be an option for us. I'm not really sure if we have anything of value to offer them but he'd be a nice alternative to Manny.
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Aug 15 2008, 01:08 AM
If the Tigers look to move Magglio to shed salary that could be an option for us. I'm not really sure if we have anything of value to offer them but he'd be a nice alternative to Manny.

Humberto Sanchez, Kevin Whelan, and Anthony Claggert.
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Saying you don't want Darvish because Irabu and Igawa sucked is like saying you don't want Ryan Howard because Rondel Black sucked.
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Aug 15 2008, 07:47 AM
Saying you don't want Darvish because Irabu and Igawa sucked is like saying you don't want Ryan Howard because Rondel White sucked.

I'm not sure why I have to reiterate this every few months or so, but taking on a guy like Darvish for a present day value of an El Duque type contract is basically a no brainer. Paying a ridiculously high posting fee and giving him a 5-6 year guaranteed MLB deal at good money is absolutely a HUGE risk, one which I don't like to see the Yankees make.
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Saying you don't want Darvish because Irabu and Igawa sucked is like saying you don't want Ryan Howard because Rondel White sucked.

I'm not sure why I have to reiterate this every few months or so, but taking on a guy like Darvish for a present day value of an El Duque type contract is basically a no brainer. Paying a ridiculously high posting fee and giving him a 5-6 year guaranteed MLB deal at good money is absolutely a HUGE risk, one which I don't like to see the Yankees make.

I was more talking about the people who don't want Asian pitchers all together because we've got burned in the past. Basically pitchers should be compared to other pitchers of their ability and Igawa and Darvish have nothing in common other than noodles and karate.

I can understand your position, but at the same time, Boston now has Dice K until 2012 for no more than 10 mill in any year. That is a HUGE bargain in todays market. They got laughed at for paying 50 mill to talk to him by everyone, myself included, but thats 5-12 mill a year that won't be on their payroll or count toward their revenue sharing. The posting fee will pay for itself. In hindsight I totally wish Cashman was as stupid as I thought Theo was.
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