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Cashman" no trade market - ZERO"
Topic Started: Jun 16 2008, 06:02 PM (319 Views)
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Just spoke to Brian Cashman. If you’re expecting C.C. Sabathia in the Bronx any time soon, don’t hold your breath.


“There is no trade market at the moment,” he said. “I’m not optimistic that something can get done on that front. We have to try and plug this gap internally and that’s not going to be easy.”


Cashman said “there is a window” for Wang to pitch again this season but that it would not be until September.


“Based on what we knew yesterday, we were bracing ourselves for something bad and it’s bad,” he said. “He’s not going to be able to do anything for six weeks.”


You can expect Dan Giese to start against the Reds on Saturday. The Yankees have no plans to rush Dan McCutchen to the majors and they want Ian Kennedy to get at least two starts in the minors before he is activated off the disabled list.


“We lost A-Rod and Posada at the same time and we moved forward,” Cashman said. “A few years ago it was Sheffield and Matsui on the corners. We had Erick Almonte playing shortstop when Derek Jeter hurt his shoulder.”


But replacing a starting pitcher, Cashman admitted, is a more difficult problem.


“The higher up you go in the rotation, the more difficult it becomes,” he said. “You can’t just replace a pitcher like Chien-Ming Wang.”


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Yeah, God forbid they "rush" the soon-to-be 26 year old McCutchen. :rolleyes:

Who the hell wrote this?
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David Wells will be back in the Bronx by July 4th ...
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Jun 16 2008, 06:09 PM
Yeah, God forbid they "rush" the soon-to-be 26 year old McCutchen. :rolleyes:

Who the hell wrote this?

http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2008/06/16/cash...o-trade-market/
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Jun 16 2008, 06:09 PM
Yeah, God forbid they "rush" the soon-to-be 26 year old McCutchen. :rolleyes:

Who the hell wrote this?

Peter Abraham.

He's a good reporter but not so good at analyzing.
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Jun 16 2008, 06:17 PM
David Wells will be back in the Bronx by July 4th ...

Why not at this point, it's not like things can get any worse. He'd likely suck but so will the shet we bring up from the minors.
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Cash is just doing what he is supposed to...keeping a low profile and not driving prices up for no apparent reason. The trade market will sort itself out soon enough.
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Sign Wells, Garcia and any scrap heap guy you can find.
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Jun 16 2008, 08:35 PM
Sign Wells, Garcia and any scrap heap guy you can find.

Problem is this also hurts the bullpen. Patchwork guys is not the answer. I'd rather try to trade for a pitcher who eats up some innings than a 5 inning wonder...or the bullpen is going to be further exposed!
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Jun 16 2008, 08:42 PM
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Jun 16 2008, 08:35 PM
Sign Wells, Garcia and any scrap heap guy you can find.

Problem is this also hurts the bullpen. Patchwork guys is not the answer. I'd rather try to trade for a pitcher who eats up some innings than a 5 inning wonder...or the bullpen is going to be further exposed!

1. Wells and Garcia would not be 5 innings wonders. We're not talking about Al Leiter here.

2. Cashman is our GM. We're lucky if he gets us Carlos Silva.
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I'd be willing to give Garcia a shot, but I'm not too into Wells Part III.
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Jun 16 2008, 08:35 PM
Sign Wells, Garcia and any scrap heap guy you can find.

Problem is this also hurts the bullpen. Patchwork guys is not the answer. I'd rather try to trade for a pitcher who eats up some innings than a 5 inning wonder...or the bullpen is going to be further exposed!

1. Wells and Garcia would not be 5 innings wonders. We're not talking about Al Leiter here.

2. Cashman is our GM. We're lucky if he gets us Carlos Silva.

1. How many innings do you actually think you're getting out of Wells 43 year old back? Garcia MIGHT be a different story.


2. He's the same GM who got us Chacon and Smalls!
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Jun 16 2008, 08:35 PM
Sign Wells, Garcia and any scrap heap guy you can find.

Problem is this also hurts the bullpen. Patchwork guys is not the answer. I'd rather try to trade for a pitcher who eats up some innings than a 5 inning wonder...or the bullpen is going to be further exposed!

1. Wells and Garcia would not be 5 innings wonders. We're not talking about Al Leiter here.

2. Cashman is our GM. We're lucky if he gets us Carlos Silva.

1. How many innings do you actually think you're getting out of Wells 43 year old back? Garcia MIGHT be a different story.


2. He's the same GM who got us Chacon and Smalls!

1. Wells is not 43. He's like 46.

2. Small and Shacon fell into their lap. By the next year these guys were as pleasant at rotting garbage.
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Jun 16 2008, 08:35 PM
Sign Wells, Garcia and any scrap heap guy you can find.

Problem is this also hurts the bullpen. Patchwork guys is not the answer. I'd rather try to trade for a pitcher who eats up some innings than a 5 inning wonder...or the bullpen is going to be further exposed!

1. Wells and Garcia would not be 5 innings wonders. We're not talking about Al Leiter here.

2. Cashman is our GM. We're lucky if he gets us Carlos Silva.

1. How many innings do you actually think you're getting out of Wells 43 year old back? Garcia MIGHT be a different story.


2. He's the same GM who got us Chacon and Smalls!

1. Wells is not 43. He's like 46.

2. Small and Shacon fell into their lap. By the next year these guys were as pleasant at rotting garbage.

Thanks for proving my point further on Wells! You can point to the following year all you want....they did what the Yanks needed them to do when they needed them to do it. BTW...they didn't suck any more than the 2 soft tossers we started this season with in Kennedy and Hughes!
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Jun 16 2008, 08:48 PM
I'd be willing to give Garcia a shot, but I'm not too into Wells Part III.

I'm not thrilled about the prospect of Wells III either but look at the other options. At least Wells knows the deal here and more importantly has done well here in the past. That doesn't guarantee success now but to me, that alone puts him ahead of people like Geisse (I just don't have faith in that guy). Garcia wouldn't be a bad option either but of the two, I could see the Yankees going with Wells instead. I'd say sign both.
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I mean, I guess it's low risk. Wells won't cost anything and you could release him if he sucks. Garcia is going to cost something, so you only sign him if he looks like he could help.

I like Giese out of the pen as a long man, but not as a long-term starter.
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Jun 16 2008, 08:56 PM
BTW...they didn't suck any more than the 2 soft tossers we started this season with in Kennedy and Hughes!

Why do you care about dealing Horne? You have zero patience for player development, so you should be all for dealing every young guy who hasn't proven himself. Show some consistency.
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BTW...they didn't suck any more than the 2 soft tossers we started this season with in Kennedy and Hughes!

Why do you care about dealing Horne? You have zero patience for player development, so you should be all for dealing every young guy who hasn't proven himself. Show some consistency.

Go scratch ! Horne hasn't had an opportunity to prove what he can do at the ML level..and has done pretty well in the minors! Kennedy is SHET! Hughes is more hype than reality....DEAL with it! You can keep drinkin the Hughes koolaid all you want...he is nowhere near what was advertised! I live in the USA...I'm allowed to have my own opinions based on what I see!
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What will you say if Horne struggles when he first comes up? You have the patience of a gnat.
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Way too soon to give up on Hughes.
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Jun 16 2008, 09:17 PM
Way too soon to give up on Hughes.

See that, Bleed? That's called logic and patience, even from someone with a short fuse with players.
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I have to admit, Hughes was pissing me off too. But that's mainly because you can see the talent is there. He just needs to relax and let it take over. Hopefully we see a different pitcher when he comes back.

Also, they held on to this guy rather than trade him for Santana. It'd be idiotic to turn around now and deal him for Sabathia in what would be a clear panic move. Especially since Sabathia will likely test the market this offseason.
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What will you say if Horne struggles when he first comes up? You have the patience of a gnat.

When are you going to realize that Hughes wasn't "auditioning", he was counted on to pitch COMPETENTLY as a 3 or 4 in the rotation, based on his "audition" last year! Why should he be cut any slack? These boards are merciless on pitchers ALOT better than he will ever be. I don't get your Hughes love....but I don't bash you for having patience to wait on him. I've watched the Yankees alot longer than you...and seen them suck for long stretches including all of the 80's and early 90's. I have helped pay for countless Yankee contracts by buying tons of memorabilia and merchandise. I've seen the Militello's and Lilly's come and go,the Maas's and the Balboni's shine and fade. If I want to dislike Phil Hughes and his soft mentality..its my perogative, I don't need or ask for anyones approval! You root your way...I'll root mine!

BTW... if Horne sucks after parts of 2 season like Hughes....he can feck off as well!
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Feck Garcia. According to my sauces, he's outta shape and can't even break 80 with his "fastball"

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[size=14]Livan Hernandez[/size]. ;)


He eats innings and might just get us some wins if our offense holds up their end of the bargain. :peace:
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Jun 16 2008, 09:20 PM
I have to admit, Hughes was pissing me off too. But that's mainly because you can see the talent is there. He just needs to relax and let it take over. Hopefully we see a different pitcher when he comes back.

Also, they held on to this guy rather than trade him for Santana. It'd be idiotic to turn around now and deal him for Sabathia in what would be a clear panic move. Especially since Sabathia will likely test the market this offseason.

Yf......I wouldn't trade Hughes for CC without a window of negotiation to sign him long term first! But I would trade him for him!
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What will you say if Horne struggles when he first comes up?  You have the patience of a gnat.

When are you going to realize that Hughes wasn't "auditioning", he was counted on to pitch COMPETENTLY as a 3 or 4 in the rotation, based on his "audition" last year! Why should he be cut any slack? These boards are merciless on pitchers ALOT better than he will ever be. I don't get your Hughes love....but I don't bash you for having patience to wait on him. I've watched the Yankees alot longer than you...and seen them suck for long stretches including all of the 80's and early 90's. I have helped pay for countless Yankee contracts by buying tons of memorabilia and merchandise. I've seen the Militello's and Lilly's come and go,the Maas's and the Balboni's shine and fade. If I want to dislike Phil Hughes and his soft mentality..its my perogative, I don't need or ask for anyones approval! You root your way...I'll root mine!

BTW... if Horne sucks after parts of 2 season like Hughes....he can feck off as well!

Hughes is fecking 21 years old.
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What will you say if Horne struggles when he first comes up?  You have the patience of a gnat.

When are you going to realize that Hughes wasn't "auditioning", he was counted on to pitch COMPETENTLY as a 3 or 4 in the rotation, based on his "audition" last year! Why should he be cut any slack? These boards are merciless on pitchers ALOT better than he will ever be. I don't get your Hughes love....but I don't bash you for having patience to wait on him. I've watched the Yankees alot longer than you...and seen them suck for long stretches including all of the 80's and early 90's. I have helped pay for countless Yankee contracts by buying tons of memorabilia and merchandise. I've seen the Militello's and Lilly's come and go,the Maas's and the Balboni's shine and fade. If I want to dislike Phil Hughes and his soft mentality..its my perogative, I don't need or ask for anyones approval! You root your way...I'll root mine!

BTW... if Horne sucks after parts of 2 season like Hughes....he can feck off as well!

Yeah great, I have seen all of those guys too. If you think Sam Militello was even a real prospect, you're even more lost than I ever imagined. Hughes is nothing like those guys. Everyone in baseball loves Hughes.

Militello was a nobody who came up and performed on a bad team for a couple of months, as was Maas.

Hughes is considered one of the best young pitchers to come up in the past several years. He's 21 years old. In other words, he's the equivalent of a kid who just finished his junior year of college. Only an idiot wouldn't give him more of a shot than 19 starts.
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What will you say if Horne struggles when he first comes up?  You have the patience of a gnat.

When are you going to realize that Hughes wasn't "auditioning", he was counted on to pitch COMPETENTLY as a 3 or 4 in the rotation, based on his "audition" last year! Why should he be cut any slack? These boards are merciless on pitchers ALOT better than he will ever be. I don't get your Hughes love....but I don't bash you for having patience to wait on him. I've watched the Yankees alot longer than you...and seen them suck for long stretches including all of the 80's and early 90's. I have helped pay for countless Yankee contracts by buying tons of memorabilia and merchandise. I've seen the Militello's and Lilly's come and go,the Maas's and the Balboni's shine and fade. If I want to dislike Phil Hughes and his soft mentality..its my perogative, I don't need or ask for anyones approval! You root your way...I'll root mine!

BTW... if Horne sucks after parts of 2 season like Hughes....he can feck off as well!

Hughes is fecking 21 years old.

I don't give a shet! My nephew is 18 and he's fighting a war! That soft minded piece of shet was kept instead of Santana! He gets no excuses! Joba got no excuses and asked for none...he went out and did and continues to do his job!
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Jun 16 2008, 09:28 PM

I don't give a shet! My nephew is 18 and he's fighting a war!

Apple, please introduce yourself to the orange.
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